Things Fall Apart: Understanding America's Cascading Economic and Political Crisis
Posted by Soci3talCollaps3@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 19 comments
What a great analysis from the perspective of complex system science.
Lord_Vesuvius2020@reddit
It’s interesting that she cites Argentina in the early 2000’s as an example. The government did fall but after some chaos with a high unemployment rate and currency crisis a new government was formed. This collapse was an economic and government collapse but not a civilization collapse. Maybe someone from Argentina could comment on this?
jjohnisme@reddit
Fernando Aguirre would probably disagree with your last point on the matter lol.
fake_again@reddit
Yeah, well he’s got the intelligence and imagination of a sack of rocks so who gives a shit
jjohnisme@reddit
Something something a broken clock is right twice a day. I didn't know he was still doing stuff.
He does seem a little... Boot-licky here. Though with the current political climate, it might be posturing?
PrairieFire_withwind@reddit
Things fall apart is also part of book titles by pema chodron and chinua achebe. Both excellent reads for very different reasons.
Also, hella tangengtial to the above video and yet also central to the above in different times/contexts.
Lord_Vesuvius2020@reddit
I have read both of those. Excellent observation! Both are relevant to this discussion.
PrairieFire_withwind@reddit
Ikr. Sometimes the world gives ya fun connections :)
Soci3talCollaps3@reddit (OP)
Hah. Yes indeed, thanks.
petered79@reddit
project 2025 is the catalyst
ambelamba@reddit
Whether it succeeds or fails wouldn't matter, I guess.
Soci3talCollaps3@reddit (OP)
This video does an excellent job of covering the complexity science that could lead to collapse under virus different conditions highlighting all of the elements that are currently coming together at this moment to create a very precarious situation and what that might mean in terms of near term effects.
I've never watched her before so I can't speak directly to her reputation or the veracity of the claims, but my first impression is that this is a pretty good analysis.
This is relevant to collapse because it is literally focused on describing the Science and Mathematics of complex systems undergoing collapse and have that applies to current Day events.
psycubi@reddit
Reputation seems very important to sit through and take in something so important. Maybe this person is a scientist or a reporter in the field. Would be nice to lead with some of that info- credentials.
shr00mydan@reddit
The part about the military support for the regime sure sounds right to me. Politicization of the military weakens it. Not being sure you are the good guys weakens combat effectiveness. When half the their own country becomes the enemy, military folks tend to lose motivation. Loss of all the good generals who fail loyalty tests or refuse unlawful orders weakens the military. Not having money to pay the military severely weakens the military. Food scarcity due to deporting agricultural labor weakens the military as it weakens the rest of the county. Any sane person who wanted to maintain control of the military would not be doing what America's leaders are doing now, as it guarantees collapse of military at exactly the moment it's needed to maintain control through economic collapse.
The crazy question is if they are intentionally trying to undermine military cohesion as part of a plan to undermine all of government and the economy, or if they are just too arrogant and stupid to understand where their actions are leading. The Quantico gathering an pep talk points to the latter.
In any event. Here time frame of 4 to 12 weeks sounds right, if the government stays shut down.
Hour-Stable2050@reddit
And then Trump will be captured and tried in The Hague for the extrajudicial killings of suspected Venezuelan drug smugglers.
ElephantContent8835@reddit
Entropy for you and me!
dduchovny@reddit
great video. can't decide if i hope her analysis is right or wrong. on the one hand, trump's regime collapsing in the next two - four months sounds great - but the overall consequences are daunting. if it does happen, hopefully the american people don't settle for less than the meaningful change they deserve.
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I've never watched her before so I can't speak directly to her reputation or the veracity of the claims, but my first impression is that this is a pretty good analysis.
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Funnyguyinspace@reddit
The greed hasnt let for a moment if reprieve, we've passed the moments where people can understand the full picture.
the only solution fir the elite is AI and to control it.
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