New Nambu M57A1 9mm Pistol Prototype designed by the Shin-Chuo Industries in 1957.
Posted by Brilliant_Ground1948@reddit | ForgottenWeapons | View on Reddit | 55 comments
It was designed to replace the .45 ACP M1911A1 which was the standard service pistol of the JSDF.The recoil of the M1911A1 was too much for the small hands of the average Japanese people.The 9mm SIG P220 was selected instead.
Entire_Judge_2988@reddit
This is really cool. It looks like a prop from the movie Blade Runner.
MlackBesa@reddit
I’m positive all the pictures of it, except the blue-background, are rubber props lol. This is some guy at home doing these and painting them, the background really doesn’t look like a museum or military facility. Which is impressive since they most likely never could get access to a real one to take measurements or anything, they most likely had to design a model just off of pictures.
InterestingShare7796@reddit
Old comment, I know, but I think you're right. Especially looking at the mag release and where the slide meets the grip on the last picture.
Nero_Team-Aardwolf@reddit
I don‘t know why but this looks like a gun someone would design for an anime. Like the specific cuts and curvature and mixture from multiple designs match exactly what I would imagine an anime/ manga artist would come up with
CerberusTheHunter@reddit
Yes. I can’t put my finger on exactly why, but it looks Japanese.
Nero_Team-Aardwolf@reddit
No that‘s not what I meant xD it looks like certain designeöements are weirdly overdesigned or off something anime or manga artists do but usually actual firearms don‘t have. Maybe cause it‘s a prototype?
The slide release is absurdly big and overdesigned as an example. That’s what I meant haha
CerberusTheHunter@reddit
No, really, we are on the same page. This reminds me of so many guns from anime/manga and video games that were all Japanese made.
Nero_Team-Aardwolf@reddit
Agreed thought you were sarcastic cause it‘s a nambu afterall xD
Stevenwave@reddit
Could be the other way too though. Designs this old could have been the stuff that influenced manga and anime artists. Maybe a few did it and those artists then influenced later artists. Would be interesting to look into, I don't really know anything about Japanese firearms at all.
RutabagaOutside6126@reddit
The oversized parts and the grip, remind me of something designed for people with arthritis.
TheEvilBlight@reddit
Wonder why not going to the 9mm HiPower; though I get that manual of arms for the existing gun is helpful, compatibility with holsters, etc
levels_jerry_levels@reddit
I will never, as a Japanese American, not be upset at Japan’s fucking pacifism when it comes to weapons exports. Particularly the type 89.
NotAGTCSockPuppet@reddit
You can get Japanese .38 snubbies that are a mix of Smith and Colt. One of my great regrets is not pouncing on the one I came across many years ago.
HoppesNo9@reddit
You aren’t missing anything. I had the “opportunity” to make and fit replacement parts for two Miroku .38s and they were both hot garbage. Worse yet the owners both expected miracles but didn’t want to spend any money for their “babies.” Thankfully one was just a broken firing pin, and I had part of the original. If you want to experience a mix of Colt and Smith that is similarly trash, borrow an Armscor wheelie. I swear the people in charge of installing barrels on those are blind given how crooked they are. Uberti SAA smiths puts the barrels on with little more than a vise and an old axehandle and they come out straighter than on an Armscor.
subtleplus@reddit
I understand what you mean, but you can buy Howa and Miroku made firearms in the US (at least, you could before you know). Though, given how the US turned down a shipment of South Korean arsenal M1s, the days of nice milsurp coming here are over, I'm afraid
8fulhate@reddit
I'd love a collection of post war Japanese weapons. Hell, I'd get a Type 64 just cause of Gate or GI Samurai.
Cleanbriefs@reddit
If you are gonna make a semi auto gun for smaller hands you gotta upsize the chunkiness of the controls to add mass while making the frame narrower for smaller hands.
This is why the controls look hilariously comic book drawn.
bmbreath@reddit
I want one. And it also looks like AI tried to render a firearm. Everything on it is off from a 'normal' expectation of a pistol
BicSparkLighter@reddit
this dude games
Default_Nord_@reddit
It looks like the first pistol you get in a PS2 game, where they just took elements from a bunch of wonder nines and combined them into one and called it like The Strelok-9 so it sounds vaguely Soviet
The_Hairy_Herald@reddit
That was vivid, and I liked it!
Default_Nord_@reddit
I played too many first person shooters on the PS2
lycantrophee@reddit
Awfully specific and I'm here for it.
MlackBesa@reddit
I’m pretty sure that’s because it is molded. Look at the trigger and controls, they are fused with the body. And the pictures look nowhere to be from a museum or arms storage room. I’m guessing an enthusiast made a prop replica and painted it, and only the two blue-background pictures actually depict real ones, the setting looks much more serious.
justaheatattack@reddit
we have S&W at home.
keizaigakusha@reddit
Ghost in the Shell gun
Master_Shopping9652@reddit
An actual type 14 Nambu in 9mm Luger would be interesting to see.
Glitzernder_Pirat@reddit
Looks like something Masamune Shiro designed. Fits perfect into Ghost in the Shell or Appleseed
MentalRain619@reddit
It's as if a Makarov and a S&W first generation pistol had a son, and the son was drawn by a manga artist
Jwanito@reddit
why does it look edible?
like in that chocolate molded thing way
MlackBesa@reddit
I’m pretty sure that’s because it is molded. Look at the trigger and controls, they are fused with the body. And the pictures look nowhere to be from a museum or arms storage room. I’m guessing an enthusiast made a prop replica and painted it, and only the two blue-background pictures actually depict real ones, the setting looks much more serious.
Mapekus@reddit
The soft edges and the way the material reflects light reminds me of paint, makes me think the first few images are of a replica. I found a yahoo auction of what looks to be the same thing and it's listed under toy/model gun.
TeddyBinks@reddit
Yeah, I was thinking it looked too much like it was die cast. The slide safe looks like it is stuck on place and does not move. It kinda looks to me that it IS a toy cast of perhaps an original.
Altruistic_Mechanic7@reddit
Looks like it influenced the Walther P88
Ok-Peanut4539@reddit
Ngl this thing slaps lol
appalachian_aurora@reddit
Major Kusanagi's sidearm?
GumshoosMerchant@reddit
Okay... after doing some research. It appears to have been a design based on the 1911A1 for the "A" model. But the "B" model was based on the FN model 1910.
I know this design predated it. But I just cannot stop thinking of the Beretta 92 pistols for some reason when I see this. The single stack Beretta m1951, which were the precursors to the 92, did exist in this era though.
Dubaku@reddit
It's the grip having the cut out for the slide stop and the safety on the slide. It gives it that vaguely Beretta look. Kinda like someone saw one once and had to draw it from memory. Like those early CIA sketches of the AK-47.
GumshoosMerchant@reddit
They thought it was an SMG of some sort.
Dubaku@reddit
To be fair they weren't super far off with that assessment. The Soviets came to the assault rifle concept from the opposite direction as the US. Where we wanted a rifle with a higher ammo capacity, they wanted and SMG with more fire power.
iirc They had planned on adopting it along side the SKS in the role they would have used something like the PPS43. But at some point someone looked at the two rifles and realized the AK does everything the SKS can but better, and can be made for cheaper once they get stamping sorted out.
AJ_Palaiologos@reddit
"It's like one of my Japanese animes..."
NarfoOnTheNet@reddit
It genuinely looks like a gun from an anime.
leicanthrope@reddit
It needs translucent amber grips ala Bladerunner.
nzdastardly@reddit
You nailed it. Looks like something a villain of the week would pull on Spike Spiegel
GumshoosMerchant@reddit
So was this basically a Japanese Beretta 92?
PureLeafAudio@reddit
So it's kind of just a fancy Hi Power?
Global_Theme864@reddit
I always found it funny that the Japanese chose the Sig P220 when looking for a smaller gun. I find the grip on mine huge for a single stack 9mm.
DanielDelights@reddit
must be why their gun looks fat. . . for a sig.
they smooshed it.
azb1812@reddit
It's hideous.
I want one.
DKandTM@reddit
But is it cake?
GrandPuissance@reddit
A Sig 210 and a HiPower had a baby
justaheatattack@reddit
you know what they say about the size of a guys hands.....
cavalier24601@reddit
The controls looks relatively massive. Like someone complained to the armourer so they put oversized controls on it. "Is the lever too small NOW, Akari?"
F4UCorsair1942@reddit
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