The Prime Minister of Denmark just addressed the nation on the mystery drone incursions
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getembass77@reddit
I never thought I'd live in a time where NATO countries have swarms of unidentified flying objects over them without an immediate and swift response. Seeing it happen here in the US was mind boggling. They literally flew over F-22 Raptors on the ground and the response was to move the raptors. I have no idea what's happening anymore
scaredoftoasters@reddit
I can tell you that the USA does not want to even give them a response. The reason being if they are hostile country drones they don't want to let them know the response times. To the USA & NATO the drones are just like annoying flies buzzing around trying to get a reaction. The truth is Russia is kinda a paper tiger in Ukraine and it is not winning a war it thought it could win in 3-4 days
daviddjg0033@reddit
do not underestimate Putin.
Georgia, Crimea Transnitria the vassal Belarus was used to stage troops for an invasion or to throw migrants into Europe..
Copenhagen is safe and nobody was hurt. Expect Putin to come for Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia and Berlin.
scaredoftoasters@reddit
He's already going after them through hybrid warfare and most western European countries face waves of immigration from the help of Iran, Russia, Hezbollah, Hamas, and other radical groups to further destabilize European societies all in the name of refugees. The world is not a good place right now.
HelloImTheAntiChrist@reddit
They can't shoot them down . The US government has tried many, many times. They've literally tried every type of munition with no success.
Any manned aircraft that gets close usually drops out of the sky due to total electronic failure. When they send human made drone near them their batteries instantly go to 0% and they crash.
The governments of the world are quite aware of this information.
ProgressiveCDN@reddit
Do you have some good sources where I can do further reading on this? Specifically the electronic failures?
HelloImTheAntiChrist@reddit
Start here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/InterdimensionalNHI/s/nOX5g4X2RE
oswaldcopperpot@reddit
Its a youtuber during the NJ flap with his DJI.
WhyAreYallFascists@reddit
Guys the US was us. I’d been assuming it was base defense games. I do not know why they did t say that though. My guess for that is obvi the intelligence agencies, its always them.
JS-AI@reddit
I’d imagine it’s for OPSEC. You wouldn’t want your enemies knowing you’re conducting tests. It’d give foreign intelligence services a reason to spy on the tests to see how the bases respond. If a spy were to identify known strengths and weaknesses it would give them an edge.
594896582@reddit
But having it so publicly visible and not taking credit, makes them look weak and vulnerable, and would encourage it by govts with more discrete technology than what was used. It's an 'If someone else can do it with such obvious drones, our military ones can easily do it undetected.' mentality.
Like, look how weak and vulnerable the Jan 6 thing made it clear that govt buildings are, esp. now that the FBI says they had over 200 agents present in addition to all the local police.
Imo, the edge is already something they have because of these and other similar things.
DocDMD@reddit
I'm also pretty sure they are very helpful as a misdirection to take attention away from something else.
piehitter@reddit
I doubt it was base defense games. Military op that public couldnt be held under wraps.
ArgentoFox@reddit
Occam’s Razor states that they lack the ability to down them or even mitigate them. Any military, including the US.
I will give you an example. Let’s state that the Russians flew a jet around a military base in Alaska. They might (might) be given fair warning, but they would be shot down because of the immediate danger to the US and its assets. It would be a profound lack of readiness and competence to allow a foreign adversary to dilly dally around sensitive areas and it would be a tremendous sign of weakness. The drones situation is a polar opposite. They’ve been allowed to fly with total impunity wherever they desire with no countermeasure in sight.
Jazzlike-Garbage6955@reddit
Absolutely not. That’s insane. These are clearly just normal drones. The simplest explanation is they already know exactly where they’re coming from so there’s no need. Using Occams Razor to claim a bunch of stuff that’s infinitely more complicated than anything we already know is the opposite of what it means.
ArgentoFox@reddit
You or no one else has been able to articulate why a foreign adversary has been allowed to violate airspace and surveil sensitive areas with impunity. When Russia recently flew drones into Poland what happened? They were swiftly shot down. But yet in the US, China, Denmark, the UK, etc. these drones have been allowed to fly and not a single one has been shot down. The US had no issue shooting down a balloon when it crossed over the continental US, but drones were allowed to fly freely about in NJ for months without any action. Point to any other example where foreign adversaries have been allowed to loiter over military bases, residential areas, and areas housing nukes with impunity. We know from the NJ sightings that they lack a heat signature and can remain in flight for hours upon hours without needing to be recharged. And we are supposed to believe that Russia, a country that has mightily struggles in Ukraine and is using Cold War era equipment is the mastermind behind this? Spare me.
jaimi_wanders@reddit
Denmark asked Ukraine for help immediately—and has received it. Do try to keep up.
https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/prezident-ukrayina-gotova-podilitisya-z-partnerami-svoyim-do-100533
Jazzlike-Garbage6955@reddit
Because it would start WW3? I’m not saying I know. I’m saying what you’re saying is dumb as fuck.
Public_Classic_438@reddit
This. It’s so crazy to sound like a conspiracy theorist but truly this must be alien lol. There are so many reports of military (specifically navy) service members seeing these things. Plus congress basically fully admitted it.
C10H24NO3PS@reddit
I like how despite tech becoming cheaper and faster to make, US hegemony and military supremacy fading, and the US undergoing a deterioration of government and society you instantly jump to “aliens” the reason Russia can fly a drone over NATO lol
Public_Classic_438@reddit
If it’s Russia why are they just letting them do it? Genuinely asking
C10H24NO3PS@reddit
EU-NATO bureaucracy.
Need to confer and agree with 31 other governments, which all have to internally consult with their individual relevant departments and come to a consensus on how to move forward
Civilian risk of shooting down a drone which isn’t currently harming anything.
Risk of provoking a nuclear power over a drone.
None of this means “aLiEnS!!!”
Environmental_Bad200@reddit
They're shutting down airport's. Stopping travel and putting civilians at risk already.
Russia said, if it's ours, shoot em down. They could most certainly send up their best and take these things out when they move away from populated areas but for some reason aren't.
Not saying it's aliens but something weird is going on when countries that have the technology to shoot things out of the sky are allowing others to shutdown their airspace.
jaimi_wanders@reddit
Ukraine has already sent drone defense trainers to Denmark
https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/prezident-ukrayina-gotova-podilitisya-z-partnerami-svoyim-do-100533
ninety_percentsure@reddit
So why not tell citizens what it is?
C10H24NO3PS@reddit
Why do citizens need to know? What’s the benefit? I know downsides would be inducing panic in the population, economic regression as people move capital to safe havens - plus the fog of war - EU/NATO might not fully know what these drones are yet or their capabilities. Can’t release information they don’t have.
This doesn’t mean it’s aliens.
I thought this was r/prepperintel, not r/conspiracy or r/UFO…
jaimi_wanders@reddit
They’re not. Denmark has asked for help which Ukraine has already sent, to train their air defenses, and Kyiv has offered to organize all of Europe’s into a single system, as well as working with their allies there individually.
https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/prezident-ukrayina-gotova-podilitisya-z-partnerami-svoyim-do-100533
ArgentoFox@reddit
Highly unlikely this is Russia. Russia has a military that routinely uses Cold War era equipment due to budget constraints and lack of advancement. It beggars belief that they have been able to develop a drone that lacks both a heat signature on top of being able to maintain flight for hours upon hours without needed to recharge. We are now supposed to believe that a country that has struggled within Ukraine now has cutting edge military tech beyond most militaries in the rest of the world? Highly improbable.
C10H24NO3PS@reddit
You do realise Russia just committed to sharing their nuclear tech tree with China right? You think China just gets that for free? China will throw them some drones for that kind of cooperation.
joemangle@reddit
So you're suggesting that China has given Russia some kind of advanced, secret drones, and Russia has decided to parade these around across the world in non-conflict zones where they can be observed, recorded and potentially recovered and reverse-engineered?
C10H24NO3PS@reddit
What evidence do you have that they’re “advanced”?
And yes - that’s exactly what you do with military drones - you fly them over your adversary for surveillance and intel.
You also fly your military drones over your adversary to probe their response, and detect weaknesses such as the current situation: EU not knowing what do do or how to respond because they’ve just spent the last 80 years without war and last 30 years enjoying unprecedented prosperity and relative peace.
Or you know… it’s ALIENS!!!!
joemangle@reddit
They evade all attempts to identify and track them, indicating they represent something beyond the current state of the art
C10H24NO3PS@reddit
They’ve been identified as drones, have they not? Anti-tracking tech has been around for decades with jammers, radar, IR suppression, camo and even just shape and design.
You think that two of the largest countries on earth with two of the largest economies on earth both sporting two of the most powerful militaries on earth can’t make a decent drone? Really?
GhostofBeowulf@reddit
Lol and you don't see how many fucking hoops you've now jumped through to explain this away?
How many times have you said "but what about blah?"
You know, the logical fallacy but it's what you kee[p saying...
joemangle@reddit
They have not been identified at all. They are being called "drones" to avoid the more accurate term, unidentified flying object, because they exhibit some drone-like qualities
dontgoatsemebro@reddit
So they behave in exactly the same way as... drones.
You do realise regular drones are also almost impossible to identify and track.
joemangle@reddit
We're obviously not talking about "regular drones," but in any case, "regular drones" are certainly not "almost impossible" to identify and track - which 30 seconds on Google and ChatGPT clearly demonstrates.
Even "irregular" or malicious drones can be identified and tracked using non-cooperative detection, such as:
• Radar: ground-based radars detect the drone’s echo and provide range/azimuth (and sometimes elevation). Modern small-target radars tuned for small UAVs are widely used.
• RF detection / direction-finding (DF) & multilateration: sensors listen for the drone-to-controller and drone-to-pilot radio signals (RC link, Wi-Fi, telemetry). Direction-finding antennas and arrays can triangulate (multilateration) to locate both the UAV and the pilot/control station. Many operational counter-UAS solutions rely heavily on RF DF to find the pilot.
• Acoustic: arrays/microphones identify and localize drones from rotor noise and acoustic signatures — useful at short range and in quieter environments (can be combined with RF).
• Optical / EOIR (cameras + thermal): visual and infrared cameras track and identify drones and can provide persistent tracking and footage for evidence. Often used with automated computer-vision to classify objects.
• Sensor fusion: best systems fuse radar + RF + acoustic + visual to reduce false positives and improve tracking/ID (commercial vendors and police deployments use fusion systems).
• Commercial providers (e.g., Dedrone and similar) sell integrated detector suites and “sensor-fusion” platforms that correlate multiple sensor types to detect, locate and (where legal) help interdict drones and their pilots. These systems are widely used at events, prisons and critical infrastructure.
• Even with Remote ID rules in place, authorities sometimes rely on non-cooperative detection when drones are non-compliant, spoofing, or when fast localization of a pilot is needed. There are ongoing challenges in giving law enforcement streamlined, rapid access to Remote ID databases and integrating that into operational workflows.
dontgoatsemebro@reddit
If they're so easy to track how is Ukraine flying then through 1,800km of Russian airspace?
And they are huge drones almost the size of conventional aircraft not the tiny little things we're seeing here.
joemangle@reddit
Can you point to some sources that verify the size of the drones we're discussing?
The information I posted above isn't meant to show it's "so easy" to identify and track drones, but rather to counter your claim that identifying and tracking drones is "almost impossible"
dontgoatsemebro@reddit
AN-196, has a 7m wingspan.
Well my claim isn't that they're technically un-trackable, it's that it's actually very difficult and expensive to do at scale. And that is evidenced by the fact that millions of them have hit their targets, unmolested, in an active warzone. In probably the most actively tracked place on the globe.
I mean how do you support your claim that the drones in this article are "un-trackable"? Cleary they were tracked, because we know about them.
joemangle@reddit
A Wiki link to a specific model of drone does not show that this model is part of the incursions we're discussing. This really should be obvious to you.
Observing flying objects that appear drone-like is not the same as tracking them. Or identifying them. Again, this should be obvious to you.
dontgoatsemebro@reddit
You have misunderstood the point.
The link is evidence of a large, low-tech drone, that has regularly carried out attacks some the highest value military targets in Russia after flying through thousands of km of some of the best tracked and defended airspace in the world.
This demonstrates that it is difficult to track even large drones, let alone small drones in airspace that isn't as well defended or monitored.
joemangle@reddit
You have misunderstood my question. I asked you for a source verifying that the drones we're discussing here (ie, the ones making incursions in Denmark, Norway, Finland) are "small" - as you claimed they are
dontgoatsemebro@reddit
Apologies just realised you're into 'UFOs', I'm not going to waste either of our time any further.
joemangle@reddit
Wow, I don't see how me being "into" UFOs (I actually study the UFO phenomenon from a sociological and philosophical perspective) in any way prevents you from providing a source for your claim that the drones we're discussing are "tiny little things" but ok
dontgoatsemebro@reddit
Apologies just realised you're into 'UFOs', I'm not going to waste either of our time any further.
klutzikaze@reddit
They could also not know how to use them properly
YourBoiJimbo@reddit
nah dude are you kidding. despite the propaganda, and whatever you may think about russia, they are one of the most powerful countries in the world, if for no other reason than due to sheer size. russia is currently engaged in a drone war in ukraine. there's nothing particularly cutting edge about being able to fly one for hours. what you're seeing is that European countries are (correctly) assessing that its not worth potentially starting a nuclear conflict over some unarmed drones flying around. a breach of sovereignty? sure. unsafe for commercial airlines? probably. But not worth going into a direct war over.
You're right though that it may not be Russia. I have a suspicion it's a certain western puppet state looking to entice nato into getting more directly involved.
JadedBoyfriend@reddit
Sounds exactly like what a Russian puppet would say to deflect Russia.
joemangle@reddit
Are they more powerful than, say, Ukraine? Because it doesn't look like it
SlumLordOfTheFlies@reddit
The amount that Russia has struggled with Ukraine is embarrassing (for Russia). I doubt they have drone that couldn’t easily be shot down by nato. China might have something super advanced but I don’t think they would reveal it now this way.
YourBoiJimbo@reddit
I think the struggle in Ukraine is Russia successfully waging a war of attrition. if they wanted, they could obviously just flatten the whole country with carpet bombing or nukes.
crlthrn@reddit
Well, if Russia repeatedly denies these drones are theirs, then they can't really complain if those drones are shot down or destroyed, can they???
YourBoiJimbo@reddit
no, they likely wouldn't. but if they are russian, shooting them down only moves us up the ladder of escalation. not a whole lot on its own, but if you have nato countries fighting off russian drone incursions with AA guns you're in dangerous territory for sure.
Sudden_Publics@reddit
You use Occam’s razor then point towards a fantastical scenario.
What do you think is more likely; what you just posited or a more advanced nation watching an underdeveloped one throw a tantrum and deciding to keep their cool?
All I’m saying is if you’re bringing Occam’s razor into a convo, do it justice.
Taste_the__Rainbow@reddit
The observed behavior is incompatible with known tech. If another nation has something that can hang for 12+ hours and also outrun anything we use to try and ID then that tech may as well be alien. The impact on capabilities is the same.
jaimi_wanders@reddit
We already have civilian drones that can stay aloft for an hour and a half. They would be switching them out as they got low on charge, obviously. The ones that shut down airports in Denmark were based off tankers in the Baltic Sea.
https://www.dronepilotgroundschool.com/powerline-inspection-drones/
Document-Numerous@reddit
This is right. The simplest slander is that the U.S. government knew they weren’t a threat because they knew what they were.
jaimi_wanders@reddit
Ukraine is downing them, and has already sent trainers to Denmark to help them learn how—and proposing to help all of Europe set up a joint airspace defense:
https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/majzhe-vsi-zagrozi-bezpeci-u-yevropi-sogodni-jdut-vid-rujniv-100425
uber_cast@reddit
Are they not able to do anything about these drones. I don’t understand why more isn’t being done to respond. Is the answer really just to let this happen?
FriendlyEngineer@reddit
Drone warfare is basically modern warfare now. Every major nation in the world is scrambling to develop technologies for both offensive and defensive drone warfare.
In the US, every conspiracy on the drones I’ve heard always assumes they are foreign drones (or at least not part of US military).
Here’s a theory. If you were working on drone defense, say a drone detection system, you’d eventually need to test your systems. You can start by testing in the desert around Area 51, but that only gets you so far. Eventually you’d want to set up these systems and test them near actual bases and civilian areas to account for air traffic, electrical interference, how buildings and topography affect the system, etc.
Great. It’s just testing. But why hide it? Well just like with fighter jets and missiles, if your enemy knows how you detect them, they can develop systems that can beat that detection system. So you keep it secret. You don’t just hide the specs. You hide the very fact that you’re even testing a system like that at all. You throw off your enemies and their spy’s by creating confusion. The town mayors and state sheriffs don’t need to know what’s going on. They just need some high up guy from the pentagon to come in and say, “it’s us, but you can’t say it’s us, so just play dumb and say you’re looking into it”.
I think the fact that jets aren’t being scrambled and too military brass aren’t freaking out should tell you everything you need to know.
AnomalyNexus@reddit
The balloon thing in the US also took quite a while to be shot down. I assume this is intentional for some technical reason even if it looks pretty weak
Spacebotzero@reddit
I honestly think that it could be a country like Israel testing out highly advanced drones and they plan to share it with the US and NATO countries, maybe? They may be flying to cities, bases, ships help feed information and integrate into US and other NATO country technologies. So the counties' officials allow it and publically play stupid.
We damn straight up know if they wanted to see what they were, they could with the technology we have. So publically, officials are playing stupid which has worked quite well for them. There would also be so much outrage if people found out a foreign country was testing drones over major cities with little to no discretion. Let alone it being Israel, they aren't making too many friends these days and the outrage would be there.
These aren't aliens, UAPs, UFOs...or anything of the sort. They are classified black peoject drones that are being used on internal infrastructure, military bases, and ships. Possible to learn, gather data, test, and integrate into other projects. If you can't make a giant fake city to test them on, use the real thing.
skoalpancake@reddit
This could be correct. Rule out aliens. Take into account why no one shoots them down. These things flew over the US as well. There is no way the US lets Russia fly drones over US airspace without repercussions. Trump expressed confusion as to why the US government didn't just say what they were, and he was probably briefed or had some knowledge of what it could be, based on what he was privy to as president. That probably rules out anything that is an advantage to him, otherwise he would leak it. They are transnational. Noone has leaked some incredible and verifiable reason for these sightings.
Ive always suspected it was a nation, or group of nations, or other transnat entity needing to test/train drones run by AI/LLM/neural networks. Current AI models need massive amounts of data to operate at any efficiency worth using. The best way to train AI drones to operate would presumably be to train them in the real world on real world data(us). LLMs train that way.
They don't get shot down because they are "friendly". From this statement by Denmark PM, it might seem that not all countries are okay with this testing, but also can't directly criticize whatever is responsible. They can only release vague statements to say they disagree, thus putting on some pressure and express some meaningful disagreement.
Or they are just playing stupid, and need to say something to appease citizenry.
Could be green men from outer space or spontaneous groups of troublemakerss catching authorities unawares. WTF do I really know anymore.
Natural-Result-6633@reddit
This ⬆️
PsudoGravity@reddit
If its some hyper advanced system, and its out of our technological reach to effect them, best humanity can do is shrug, and hide its shit maybe?
Where does a hyperadvanced system originate from? I'd argue, aliens, future humans, secret society humans, or maybe a human made AI.
Shortymac09@reddit
because it's drones not planes
FormerNeighborhood80@reddit
Scary times we are living in.
ALittleEtomidate@reddit
Is it aliens?
mortalitylost@reddit
Yep, and shit is going to get real weird in the next 2 years.
Helpful-homie123@reddit
ANCIENT ALIENS 2025
lab_chi_mom@reddit
Garagedays@reddit
SystematicApproach@reddit
☝️
immoraltoast@reddit
They're UFOs, same ones that flew around in New Jersey and the United Kingdom last year. Which if anyone been paying attention to it, they still are flying all over America. It never stopped.
River_City_Rando@reddit
And they cant shoot them down. Apparently they go dark and dissappear. Civilians who have tried to get up close with their own drones, suddenly lose all battery. Shits odd for sure
mortalitylost@reddit
Yep. People keep asking why they can't shoot them down, and there's a million excuses about it being too dangerous.
I don't buy it for a second. They either know they're not a threat and it's not worth it, or they know they cant, likely both.
Helpful-homie123@reddit
Link?
philo351@reddit
Translation
Dear all, Denmark has in recent days been subjected to hybrid attacks.
Drones have been seen in several places near critical infrastructure, both military and civilian.
These are attacks that we must expect more of.
And these are attacks that have revealed vulnerabilities.
And these are attacks aimed at creating insecurity and division.
These are attacks meant to shake us as people and as a society.
I fully understand that the situation raises many questions.
Why were the drones not shot down, and why were they not detected earlier?
And there will come a time when we must look back at the events of recent days and learn from them.
But here and now, as government and authorities, we have an overriding task, and that is to protect Denmark.
And to make us better able to counter hybrid attacks as quickly as possible.
And where are we now?
First, the authorities have raised the level of preparedness, and they are preparing for different scenarios.
This means, among other things, that both the military and the police will be more present with anti-drone capabilities around critical infrastructure in the coming period.
At the same time, the authorities are in close contact with our allies with a view to quickly strengthening our own Danish capabilities to detect and to combat drones.
Second, the authorities have the mandate to take down hostile drones.
But, of course, it is the responsible authorities who must make the operational assessment in the specific situation, including of the specific security risks.
And third, over the past days, I have been in contact with a number of my European colleagues.
I have spoken with the German Chancellor, the British Prime Minister, the Prime Ministers of our neighboring countries Sweden and Norway, and with the Finnish President.
I have also been in close dialogue with NATO’s Secretary General.
And from the Danish side, we are now in close dialogue with NATO allies about how they can assist Denmark in the current situation, so that we can protect and defend our airspace.
The hybrid attacks have not only hit Denmark.
There have recently also been incidents in Poland, Estonia, and Romania.
Hybrid warfare is not a war in the traditional sense.
Hybrid attacks are meant to confuse us.
They are meant to make us insecure.
And they come from a cowardly enemy who does not dare reveal themselves.
One time it may be drones.
Another time it may be cyberattacks, or what we call disinformation, or interference in elections, conspiracy theories one reads online.
But regardless of which method we will face, the purpose is the same.
They want to destabilize our society, and they want us to no longer trust our authorities.
And all of this underlines that the security threat to Europe is serious and growing.
That is why in recent years we have been carrying out a massive strengthening of our own Danish defense.
It is also why we have continued to support Ukraine, which I believe can help us in this situation.
Because if anyone has expertise in fighting drones, it is our friends in Ukraine, and that is why we are, of course, now in dialogue with them.
I must also say that it takes time to rebuild Danish defense.
I am not asking for patience with this, because in truth, I do not have it myself.
But we are in a hurry.
And I ask for understanding that even though we are in a hurry, it cannot be done overnight, or even from one year to the next.
And I must also say, and this is particularly directed at some of the parties in Parliament, that the goal of hybrid attacks is not only to test our authorities or our preparedness.
It is, as mentioned, also to see how we react as a society and how we react politically.
We must be vigilant, and if something is not working, it must of course be corrected.
That is what we are doing.
But we must also keep calm.
This is not the time for quick statements, political bidding wars, or declarations of no confidence in the authorities or the police.
Because there are no responsible politicians who can guarantee the Danish people that we can completely avoid hybrid attacks.
That is not possible in any country.
And in fact, it is quite the opposite.
We are likely to see more sabotage, more hacker attacks, even more drones, undersea cables being destroyed, direct attacks on European democracies, as we currently see in the small country of Moldova.
That Denmark and Europe are under more severe and frequent hybrid attacks, I consider a new reality.
Next week, all European heads of state and government will meet here in Copenhagen.
We will discuss European defense and security.
Including the establishment of a joint drone defense.
In other words, Europe must strengthen itself, we must rearm, and we must never let ourselves be deceived, for that is not who we are as Danes, and that is not who we are as Europeans.
In these hours and days, we are very much in what one could call the initial phase of immediate crisis management.
We have experienced this before in other situations.
And I have said this before: in handling a difficult crisis, there is always a risk of making mistakes.
And it is not always possible to quickly provide good answers to the questions that will continuously arise.
But as a government, we will strive to tell the public what we can.
The same will the authorities.
Of course with caution.
Because those who wish us harm are listening in on all the discussions we have with each other.
And although the authorities cannot conclude who is behind the hybrid attacks on our airports and other critical infrastructure, we can at least state that there is primarily one country that poses a threat to Europe’s security, and that is Russia.
And therefore, a final important point.
There is no European country that can defend itself alone against Russia.
Not even Ukraine, which has otherwise bravely fought for more than three years now.
And that is precisely why we have our NATO alliance.
That is why we are expanding the European defense industry today.
And that is why we are carrying out a historic rearmament here in Denmark.
And the events of recent days only underline how important it is that we act, but that we do so together with others in Europe and in NATO.
Thank you for listening.
divot31@reddit
So basically it's Russia?
agent_flounder@reddit
It's definitely Russia. Anyone who claims Occam's razor leads to the conclusion "it's extraterrestrials" doesn't really know how to use Occam's razor.
oswaldcopperpot@reddit
So Russians for Langley, Lakenheath and arizona too?
jaimi_wanders@reddit
Lakenheath is within drone flight of the North Sea. Time to look at shadow fleet movements in that time period too. And as Ukraine proved, THEY can hit Russian airbases far inland with drones launched from trucks they assembled with saboteurs working inside Russia for months—and after Operation Spiderweb, they pointed out that no NATO base is safe from such an attack, either.
thedoofimbibes@reddit
sigh Sure maybe. But more likely it was approved overflights by American drone operators in our own government. Such as radiological leak detection. Or ground penetrating radar survey. Or any number of normal yet not publicly disclosed reasons. Thus the lack of military panic.
oswaldcopperpot@reddit
I prefer the more sane explanation they gave. FAA Approved Mass Hysteria
thedoofimbibes@reddit
I mean most of the videos, if not all, that I saw were aircraft being misidentified as unidentified drones. Or camera artifacts being misidentified by people that don’t understand how camera lenses worked.
What drone there were most likely were there with approval. And the ground stops were coordinated with the military to allow them to do their jobs.
I know there’s been some incidents of unidentified drones interrupting flight patterns. But when they’ve been investigated (in the US) they lead back to an irresponsible private operator violating flight paths and airspace restrictions.
I’m sure there’s Russian drones here just like in Europe, and they’re probably being covered up as approved overflights or irresponsible private operators.
None of this points to aliens. None.
agent_flounder@reddit
I spent a good chunk of time on the typical UFO subs out of curiosity during the last set of sightings in the US and, yeah, virtually all the videos were consistent with normal everyday stuff like commercial airliners.
People get caught up in bullshit too easily. I mean really everyone does to one degree or another.
But on top of that most don't really know how to think scientifically, and aren't precise or careful enough with learning and relaying information. Some are downright sloppy.
Even with just regular news most people cannot even keep straight -- let alone accurately restate -- the facts as reported by trustworthy news sources.
So on social media like reddit, not only do you have straight up misinformation, you have bad journalism distorting info, and then even with good articles, you get kind of like the telephone game with info and facts.
It is... somewhat frustrating lol
You can imagine the trainwreck when it comes to stuff like UFOs.
oswaldcopperpot@reddit
Hope youre right. This was a video of some over Norway allegedly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/InterdimensionalNHI/comments/1nsaz59/triangular_shaped_ufos_rotating_before/
thedoofimbibes@reddit
Well unless they were shooting with a 90s film camera, the film grain effect on that video already tells me they’re relying on effects to make it more impactful.
oswaldcopperpot@reddit
No clue. Did you catch the congressional hearing earlier this month?
oswaldcopperpot@reddit
But seriously shutting down military bases for three weeks unable to intercept them is sketch. If this is like last year, this will continue on until December, suddenly vanish and then everyone forgets about it.
thedoofimbibes@reddit
The simplest solution is usually the correct solution, so it must be aliens. Because that requires the least critical thought and acknowledgement that other world powers are capable of acting beyond our reasoning and desires to threaten us.
It’s just people scared of and unable to process that they don’t understand/control the world around them looking to blame an outside force that’s “safe.”
philo351@reddit
100% it's Russia. Don't understand the rationale, though. Are they testing the waters to see if Europe will get US support or will be left on their own?
presaging@reddit
From the UFO community perspective it’s those orbs that didn’t react to a hell fire missile. There’s a reason they aren’t shooting them down now and that same reason is why they weren’t shot down over the United States, and the UK last year. We don’t know their origin to either be Russia or China. So who are they.
philo351@reddit
Did not see this angle coming. Very interesting.
The PM named Russia as the culprit. Just curious why she'd do that with so little to go on.
jaimi_wanders@reddit
Because that’s what Ukrainian intel thinks, because Denmark has been a major supporter of Ukraine and an obstacle to Russian meddling for years, and she was on the phone to her ally Zelenskyy that same day—and because the Russian shadow fleet already destroyed communications cables in the Baltic Sea and is well known by the marine OSINT community to carry out spying ops there and in the North Sea.
That’s why Ukraine has already sent drone experts to help train their Danish counterparts, and is offering to help all of Europe organize their air defense efficiently.
https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/prezident-ukrayina-gotova-podilitisya-z-partnerami-svoyim-do-100533
agent_flounder@reddit
No she implied Russia is the likely culprit.
philo351@reddit
Details details. She implied it. We know she knows it.
xmasnintendo@reddit
Russia is just a scapegoat
Shortymac09@reddit
because it's the only one that makes sense? I doubt China, North Korea, Iran, etc really give a fuck about Denmark.
But Russia does, because it is a NATO ally that is currently supporting Ukraine and is right next door to Poland and Estonia, which have had Russian drone and plane incursions recently.
Nemisis_the_2nd@reddit
Adjusted for population, Denmark is also one of ukraines biggest suppliers of military equipment.
presaging@reddit
Because in their instance there was a Russian earshot off the coast not far away. My perspective is this is obviously Russia using the salami technique to slowly slice away bit by bit to drive division. The UFO community is entirely a conspiracy.
XCVolcom@reddit
That was shown to be a plastic bag/balloon flying and the US Gov is too embarrassed to admit they shot a hellfire at it because revealed how precise our weapon systems are now.
What you're getting caught on is a distraction from the very real issue that a state actor is pushing the boundaries of UN nations to see who blinks first.
presaging@reddit
Putin is certainly using the salami method here.
jaimi_wanders@reddit
They’ve been doing hostile actions against EU airspace for years—and marine navigation too—with the jammers out of Kaliningrad. The sabotaged packages on DHL flights were another kind of attack. “Probing with bayonets” —when Kremlin state TV talks about how their borders end nowhere and they have imperial ambitions to rule the continent all the way to Lisbon, it’s not a joke. They were destroying telecom cables with shadow fleet tankers too, remember?
Which is why PM Frederiksen was on the phone to President Zelenskyy immediately after, and Ukrainian drone experts are already there to train their military:
https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/prezident-ukrayina-gotova-podilitisya-z-partnerami-svoyim-do-100533
all-day-pj@reddit
I'm leaning toward threatening escalation for better terms on de-escalating in Ukraine. Brinksmanship as usual.
I'm just leaning though. Not convinced.
immoraltoast@reddit
It's UFOs, same ones that flew in New Jesery and the United Kingdom. Which are still flying in both areas to this day. And Denmark already had then too back Jan or Feb. It's just they're closing Denmarks airports now.
Longjumping-Map7257@reddit
I believe that the the NJ and UK drones were American. They were around every night except on Thanksgiving. A very American holiday were the drone operators wanted to be home with their families. Just my very own conspiracy theory, I think the NJ drones were a test of capability to see if they could locate Luigi after he killed that healthcare CEO.
immoraltoast@reddit
Here's one just comparing the crafts https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/mQg35fsBFj
Longjumping-Map7257@reddit
Sorry, I'm not trying to argue with you, just throwing my 2 cents in without any evidence to back it up whatsoever. But I'm from NJ and followed this incident very closely. Them not being out on Thanksgiving and the nonchalant way the Federal government was acting towards a major threat led me to believe that they were our own drones.
all-day-pj@reddit
I also came to the conclusion that most of the US events were very very likely a large-scale test. Based mostly on the reactions - I hadn't heard about the holiday stuff.
Longjumping-Map7257@reddit
That was my thinking too. They appeared in NJ right after Luigi killed that CEO in NYC. I think it was a test of experimental surveillance drones trying to find Luigi.
immoraltoast@reddit
They showed here in Iowa beginning of January. Had a lone "drone" circling a frozen empty cornfield east of my city every night. Had a week where we had -13 weather, didn't bother it one bit. I work night shift so would see when I leave and when I come home at 3am for lunch hour.
immoraltoast@reddit
They don't take holidays off, lol. Las Vegas news and Ohio news were reporting lights in the night sky. Oregon pilots were asking their tower to dodge orbs. Would you like the links?
MoBrosBooks@reddit
Could it be a rogue AI defense system ala Skynet-lite, testing its limits, running some test flights, maybe no one wants to shoot it down because that could provoke it (and no one wants to admit they're the ones to let it free)?
Or, a little more boring, could be some black test project and military forces have been ordered not to shoot them down.
immoraltoast@reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/mQg35fsBFj a link comparing the crafts from both events.
AdminEatCrayonz@reddit
/China
Southern_Air3501@reddit
Thanks for posting this
agent_flounder@reddit
All other more important considerations aside, I am sitting here marveling at how direct and honest her message is. I cannot imagine a US politician ever saying "hey, there's no guarantee of safety" or any of the other things said. I wonder what it is like to live in such a society.
AnomalyNexus@reddit
Thought that too - even translated that sounds pretty good.
jamesk29485@reddit
Indeed. The drones were interesting, but that kind of candid speech was amazing to watch.
PrettyGalactic2025@reddit
Remember the NJ drones from Nov/ December of last year? I still think it was Russia. It’s always been
baggagehandlr@reddit
Drones over Denmark and other NATO countries and no one is shooting them down. This prime minister gave it straight.
NoTerm3078@reddit
Denmark calls up reserve soldiers:
https://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2025-09-29-droner-faar-forsvaret-til-at-hasteindkalde-soldater-fra-reserven
You will need to translate to English to read this.
thesalesman1013@reddit
One thing is clear…they are convinced they are at war.
agent_flounder@reddit
They're convinced they're in a hybrid war ... you can tell by the way that it is.
Seriously though, how long has Russia been conducting cyber warfare, information warfare / psyops, election interference, etc?
Long enough that by now the targets of these attacks should know what is up. Should.
Nemisis_the_2nd@reddit
We have fairly solid evidence they've been doing this as far back as 2016, a decent chance that its been going on since 2014, and its likely to have been going on for longer than that in smaller, more politically corrupt, countries as testbeds for influencing more developed ones.
agent_flounder@reddit
For election interference, yes, those dates check out. For cyber attacks, that goes back to the 2000s. E.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_cyberattacks_on_Estonia
Southern_Air3501@reddit
Long enough to have much of the govt in the US as pawns in their game
New-Doctor9300@reddit
Objectively they are
lemaymayguy@reddit
People say im crazy when personal drones are banned soon
DrakaMNE@reddit
I was thinking about this as well. Big show to ban flying of drones due to fear of being these ones, just so govnerments can handle things in secrecy as they did previously
Cute_Still_6657@reddit
Yeah there is no way they keep letting civilians fly these things without more than a Part 107 pretty soon. It's just a distant murmur to regulators about the situation in Ukraine, but once shit hits the fan and people are actually exposed to what type of damage these can do... no more toy drones.
amomynous123@reddit
Part 107?
Valuable_Option7843@reddit
Licensing program in USA
SchnauzerHaus@reddit
I honestly believe Elon Musk, with Trump's backing, is behind the drones. Greenland is part of Denmark, Trump wants Greenland (so does Musk), and they are doing exactly what the PM says, sowing fear and doubt into society.
The drones in the USA, in NJ, immediately after the USA election, was a distraction for us to keep us from demanding a recount of the votes that Musk/Starlink/Trump manipulated and stole.
Nvrmnde@reddit
To think that there's countries that have had that level of a feeling of security.
Tusan1222@reddit
And I’m flying to Cph regularly. Hope this won’t affect me too much
C10H24NO3PS@reddit
So the things multiple governments (Denmark, Germany) are calling drones, which video shows looking like drones, and you say have drone-like behaviour aren’t drones - they’re aliens. Got it.
GreenLurka@reddit
So... they can't shoot them down?
First_last_kill@reddit
Denmark makes semiconductor technology. It’s what the world will be fighting over in the coming days .
syynapt1k@reddit
I can't help but think we are on the cusp of war. Between this, the reporting that suggests China is preparing to make a move on Taiwan, and all senior military officers suddenly being pulled out of the field, it definitely feels like something big is about to happen.
SlumLordOfTheFlies@reddit
Did you see how China is stockpiling oil reserves?
improbablydrunknlw@reddit
90% of all the worlds stockpiled oil, that stat alone is terrifying.
deiprep@reddit
Probably a good time to buy any spare oil if you are needing it in the future. Prices will skyrocket
ss429@reddit
Seriously. And, Putin planning an address to the world around the time Hegseth brings all the military leadership together.
mcfarmer72@reddit
Why are they lit up ? They want to be seen ?
Nemisis_the_2nd@reddit
They were reportedly flying with a mix of lights on and off. On makes them visible and causes disruption. Off makes them harder to track as they reposition.
Beginning_Self896@reddit
TLDW?
Nemisis_the_2nd@reddit
PM gives an honest and frank assessment of the drone situation in Denmark. Points to russia as a likely culprit, summarises hybrid warfare tactics and their intended effect of sowing societal division, and calls on her parliamentary peers to work together on the threat in good faith (I.e. subtly saying the far right members offering simple solutions are full of shit)
Eric_Durden@reddit
"War is coming, and we don't know what to do."
weary_dreamer@reddit
or who its with
Awkward_Ostrich_4275@reddit
Hmmm… which country has been publicly threatening war with Europe for years?
bigvicproton@reddit
Luxembourg?
agent_flounder@reddit
aliens! /s
Eric_Durden@reddit
Clearly, Russia. The x-factors are who will the US and China get behind, if at all.
immoraltoast@reddit
They're UFOs
RogalDornAteMyPussy@reddit
More weapons testing that’s all
a-passing-crustacean@reddit
How refreshing to listen to an intelligent mature leader address her nation...yall got room over there for me and my dog? 🥺
palpebral@reddit
Thought the exact same. Crazy to hear a competent adult address a nation.
Head-Engineering-847@reddit
JinkoTheMan@reddit
I get the sentiment but it’s kinda wild to want to move to a country that’s possibly getting ready to go to war.😭🙏🏾
Infinite-Anything-55@reddit
If op is in the US then we already live in one, but with an authoritarian at the helm. Same threat, better leadership. I know what i would chose.
agent_flounder@reddit
Yeah and communicating with directness and honesty about the situation instead of trying to bullshit everyone to supposedly avoid panic. It is sad how novel this sounds to us.
a-passing-crustacean@reddit
Shes not even openly masturbating to herself! Who taught her how to do politics? 🤣
C10H24NO3PS@reddit
Wild that your best option is to move to a country at risk of war
Opposite_Ad_1707@reddit
Take me too
Head-Engineering-847@reddit
Very well said
PlaidPilot@reddit
I think two things are happening here. There are drone incursions, and then there are people seeing normal flight ops and thinking they're drones. Also, I think there are people splicing in videos of normal aircraft operations, complete either their mandated navigation lights turned on, into videos discussing drones. This is just middling the water. It's either ignorance or disinformation.
SithLordRising@reddit
Project Blue Beam pilot run
cholopendejo@reddit
Deporting Russians would be a good start
JoseyWales76@reddit
My blood ran cold about a minute and a half in. I hope this video is fake.. I can’t fathom the implications if this is real.
f00l2020@reddit
Probably just the New Jersey drones. Nothing to worry about. They will eventually move on
Elpickle123@reddit
Chill
Evening-Ad5765@reddit
That link is also jumping to conclusions. Could be a false flag to suck the US into the Ukraine war via NATO. I’d bet on a false flag before I suggested the Russians. No upside for the Russians to do this.
InterestingWin3627@reddit
Drone warfare is a nightmare. I imagine right now a lot of money is being spent on anti drone weapons, hopefully it will arrive in time.
Failing that, I hope we have our own drones and microdrones ready and swarms become something that neither side want to use because of the retaliation.