Did I make a mistake buying the rx 9070?
Posted by RogzX_@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 77 comments
So, I bought the Rx 9070 and I'm not sure if it would have been better to buy the Rx 9070 XT or the Rtx 5070, the price difference in my country between the 9070 and the XT is about €100, and the 5070 is about €30,I'm going to combine the Rx 9070 with a Ryzen 5 9600x, I think this processor can last about 5/6 years, but I don't know if the GPU can also last 5/6 years, because of the evolution of games and things like that, and since my focus is on AAA games, I don't know if it will
Iloveclouds9436@reddit
5/6 years and you aren't buying top end hardware??? You're getting mid range stuff. Look at mid range stuff from 6 years ago and tell me if that would be an acceptable experience to you today if you're already concerned about the 9070s performance.
Same-Tea-447@reddit
9070 isnt mid range
Iloveclouds9436@reddit
7 month old comment my friend. 9070 is absolutely mid range. Performs about as well as a 5070 which is also mid range. You really cannot call these cards high end when theyve got multiple faster models above them.
Same-Tea-447@reddit
you are completly disconected from reality
werther595@reddit
If you bought the 9070XT you could worry if you should have bought the 7900XTX or 5080. There is always an upgrade available for only X dollars more. At some point you buy within your budget and live with it
Stock-Department-108@reddit
This is an excellent point and perspective.
PollShark_@reddit
If you're comfortable you can flash the xt bios on your 9070 and boost performance by like 10-15% for free
DrugsOnEggsOnToast@reddit
What are the risks with doing this? (Noob here)
Intelligent-Day-6976@reddit
Dead gpu and watching YouTube until you can buy another
Happy times
Elitefuture@reddit
You need to get a device to flash it physically... so not really something normal people do
thatdudefromjapan@reddit
Not anymore. There might be limitations on some models, but apparently it's possible to do it without having to meddle with the hardware.
https://www.reddit.com/r/radeon/s/9SEv48jglC
Elitefuture@reddit
Ah it's literally a few days old and brand new. That's neat, I'd still personally give it some time to sit and for others to use it
thatdudefromjapan@reddit
Oh yeah, I'm also still in the wait and see camp personally. Just wanted to spread the word.
DoubleExposure@reddit
There is always a risk of bricking when you flash the BIOS. I would not do it unless I was okay with that. If I were to do it, I would make sure the card I am flashing has dual BIOS.
Onemoreuserdoesnot@reddit
VRM's and such not being exactly made for that, so without a little tweaking it may or may not kill the card in the long run.
Elitefuture@reddit
Free if you already have the device to flash the bios. At least back when it was popular, people had to physically flash the bios, it wasn't just a simple download and run.
PollShark_@reddit
I know thats how it was drom the start but i think you can download it now
Smarmy82@reddit
This scenario only works for increased clocks. In the past it used to be that the non-XT and XT parts were the same physically, but some FPUs/ROPs/etc were locked out.
With these, they have the additional hardware stuff physically disconnected, so the gamble of BIOS flashing is less worth it.
FabioBannet@reddit
Warranty off, you can turn your card into brick. If it works - you get additional ~10% performance at best case scenario on top of your overclock. But main thing - your gpu dye - if it good OC good, if it bad, you gain nothing at all.
AdvantageFit1833@reddit
9070 is efficient and runs cool, and ain't that far behind from xt, and should be easy to overclock to close the gap even more. I think you chose well
DanyPlays132@reddit
the 9070 is superior to the 5070 so don't even consider that. only 9070 xt and 5070 ti are the better options, but for 100€ more you would only get 10-15% extra performance at the most, its up to u if its worth the extra.
Mad_Cactus69@reddit
How is the 9070 xt superior to the 5070 when it performs slower and costs more??
Case1987@reddit
The 9070XT is much better than the 5070
curiousdugong@reddit
It performs faster than a 5070 in every metric besides MFG. The 9070 XT is better overall and thats not even a question
Puzzleheaded_Art3549@reddit
Hes looking at the first result that you see when you google GPUs where it ranks in popularity, not power.
DanyPlays132@reddit
nice joke. 9070 (regular, not even XT version.) is 10% faster than a 5070 AND has 4gb more vram. 9070 is the easy choice between the two if its only $50 or $100 more.
Fall3n_Arcade@reddit
The regular 9070 beats the 5070 on average and has more vram. The XT competes with the 5070 Ti. Benchmarks show this
FabioBannet@reddit
Where is it supperior? 4k dlss performance you get the same image quality and good frames +mfg x4 On amd - it’s fucking shimmering and frame gen only x2.
Withinmyrange@reddit
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5070.c4218
It’s faster and has more vram, it really is not that complicated
FabioBannet@reddit
Like 4080 super is faster than 5070 ti, numbers there overall, some games prefer amd some nvidia, some resolutions, 5070 ti beats 4080 supe some not. Amd sucks in all reytracing, and this tech almost in all titles everywhere nowadays.
About 4k yes, I’m wrong - for some games, for some not.
Amd is not competitive they take their nish in price segment and they are performing for its price.
They don’t your friends and don’t giveaway more performance for less money.
Why you can’t understand it? Why amd boys from lalalend can’t take facts? All I’ve told above is true. Except 4k, here I’m wrong, but not all titles.
InevitableSherbert36@reddit
The 9070 is faster than the 5070 in overall RT performance at 1440p according to TechPowerUp.
DanyPlays132@reddit
4k with 12gb of vram? 🤣🤣🤣 also 9070 has fsr4 so it can use performance mode too and it will look almost the same. 3x and 4x frame gen are useless, 2x is way better than them but nothing beats real frames.
True-Repeat-8376@reddit
No you did not make a mistake, i have rx 9070 and its a blast, 4k gaming its soo good and easy with this card and temps are low like crazy low. Enjoy m8
colin-java@reddit
What FPS can you get typically, I'm thinking of a new pc, have a GTX1070 right now and I can't even play the Talos principle remastered on a 1080p screen, I have to play inside a small window lol.
True-Repeat-8376@reddit
Game i play right now at 4K Returnal and Cyberpunk 2077(no RT) did not play other games yet with 9070
Puzzleheaded_Art3549@reddit
FPS was the question
Heinz_Legend@reddit
Yes. Big mistake. Should've bought a used GTX1060 or used RX580.
Captain_Mothra@reddit
I gifted a 1080ti to a friend that is still kicking medium 1080p!
Puzzleheaded_Art3549@reddit
Brother I was able to play cyberpunk at medium 1440p with over 100 fps on that card. The 5060 ti is only like 30% faster lol.
Iloveclouds9436@reddit
Those cards aren't even in the same realm of performance and are severely outdated...
HotConfusion1003@reddit
The 9070 is faster than the 5070 and has more RAM. It will age better than the 5070 for sure. The 10 - 15% more performance of the 9070 XT is not going to have a huge impact by the time the 9070 feels slow to you. Thinking about what could have been if you bought a different card is just going to distract you from having fun with the pc you have.
writesCommentsHigh@reddit
why people don't mention specific games or monitor resolution and fps?
macleodcj13@reddit
Actually just built the same PC, rx9070 and Ryzen 9600x. I am very impressed with the performance. 1440p counterstrike 2 on high runs me about 350fps in game, 250 at ultra everything. Borderlands 4 runs pretty steady at 1440p no upscaling (gets smooth 100fps with upscaling on quality, looks good too) medium settings. Haven't played much else since I upgraded a week ago, but definitely impressed with the performance. Oh I also tried Ark evolved and had that maxed out settings at 1440p as well, stable 70-80fps. Definitely a good build
macleodcj13@reddit
I suppose it's worth saying in my area the two GPUs are priced within 20$ but I mostly upgraded to play borderlands 4, which afaik runs a little nicer on Radeon. So frankly it comes down to the price in your area and what games you're gonna play. Both cards perform very well, it just depends what you want from a card. Nvidia I've heard does better upscaling and ray tracing but Radeon does better in other situations.
GraveNoX@reddit
9070 and 9070xt are 2 of the most misunderstood products, the first is a very efficient, cool and quiet GPU, the second is a more power hungry, hotter, noisier and bigger GPU, for people who want to squeeze any extra performance. You decide which one is the better choice, even if both had same price. The choice shouldn't be made only by raw performance. AMD created an alternative to the 9070xt. That's why these cards have almost same price. Is not based on performance difference. For $50 more you get few side effects like I said above and a better built card with better VRMs.
Wooshio@reddit
Ironically, your GPU might do better long term then your CPU. Games are already starting to recommend 8 core CPU's, and next gen consoles hit games will only get even more multithreaded. But really, don't worry about this. Enjoy your PC and upgrade as needed. All you can do is get the best within you budget when you build. Rest is out of your hands.
raceb4@reddit
I made the decision to go for the 9070 as opposed to the xt variant. It was because i was building is sff. My rx 9070 sapphire, is almost silent and doesnt go over 54 degrees under full load. The sound was big for me as i often hook it up to a tv and it will never thermal throttle.
Nothing is future proof anymore, since the future of gaming is fsr/dlss +frame gen. So i think you will be fine, don't sweat it.
DARIF@reddit
? The Powercolour Reaper 9700 and 9700xt have exactly the same dimensions.
raceb4@reddit
Reaper generates more heat and is louder than the silent sapphire pulse.
Zatchillac@reddit
Hard to say if the GPU will last that long as a big part of it is what type of games you play. I've had my GPU for 6 years now but I went high end (2080ti). With new AAA's it's definitely showing its age but indies and smaller or older games it still holds up just fine. Started using Lossless Scaling for some games that definitely gave it a huge boost
You could easily get 5/6 years out of your GPU as long as you keep your expectations reasonable, but again it really depends on the type of games you play or plan on playing
Nstorm24@reddit
I would tell you to enjoy it. If it works great for you, dont go looking at the maybes. I went for the 5070 because i didnt want to pay the price difference for the 9070, but if the 9070 was closer to msrp i would have bought it no doubt. Also, the 9070 xt is a good card, but for the price they are selling it (750 to 850 in amazon) is not worth it for me.
So just enjoy your card and be happy. Also, the difference in performance between those 2 cards (9070 normal and xt versions) is not that much about 10%.
meshugganner@reddit
Absolutely not. The difference between the 9070 and the XT is way, way, way less than the difference between the 5070 and the 5070ti.
I'd be hard pressed to find any gaming scenario where something is playable on the XT but not on the 9070. Just turn down a setting or two, and you can make up for the difference.
I got a 9070 on launch day at MSRP and have been extremely satisfied. I'm big on card efficiency, which is why I didn't go for the XT.
dorting@reddit
No the 9070 is really good already
risingphoenixreborn@reddit
think about resale value too than 5070 is better.I will pick 5070 at a discounted price than 9070. These days selling them early is important so that you are upgrading them at right time without much loss of price specially for people who can afford these
FabioBannet@reddit
I was upgrading my 1070 this year for 5070 ti, yep on release Ive paid 200 euros more, but I’m happy. Hope it will live for another 5-7 years.
About you - 5070 is better than your card. If cost difference 30 euros don’t even bother to watch on amd. Cause fsr 4 worse, games with fsr4 - less.Reytracing is bad.
If cost difference 150-200 euros only than you chose amd.
Eldmor@reddit
Unfortunately 5070 lacks on the VRAM department, that's quite essential if trying to buy something that lasts a longer time.
FabioBannet@reddit
Yes and no. If your gpu core is weak memory will not help you at all - look on previous amd gen cards with a lot of memory - where are they in newest titles? Even much cheaper 9070xt with less memory put them into dirt.
TPH95@reddit
5070 vs 9070xt you made the right choice no question about it if your trying to push it 5+ years in the future, The extra VRAM is essential, I literally just went down this rabbit hole for weeks looking for a PC for my son and ended up deciding on either a 9070xt or 5070ti paired with a 9600x after ALOT of questioning myself I ended up shelling out just abit more for the 5070ti as everything online said to expect %10-%25 FPS gains for him, Do you play at 1440p? If so I'd love to see what FPS you get in some games I can compare his to to see if I wasted a extra $100 lol
fray_bentos11@reddit
Why ask now?
Captain_Mothra@reddit
Honestly, a GPU's lifespan is only about 4-5 years anyway so you should be fine. Just set aside $10 a month for 4 years and then upgrade.
_OVERHATE_@reddit
Overthinking to a million lmao
Just use your card and if you have no issues with it enjoy it wtf who knows what games will be next year, not even the 5090 has a guaranteed shelf life.
AlienvsET@reddit
The 9070 XT is even better than the RTX 5070 Ti... The RTX 5070 is good only in 1080p with 12Gb of vram...
revzey@reddit
Be happy with what you have :)
Acrobatic_Educator29@reddit
If your in for a good performance with efficiency. 9070 is the most efficient amd gpu till date. It's a good choice especially the sapphire models. I wanted to get it as well but in my place it didn't make sense for the price it's at. So I got the 9060xt instead cuz it seems like a more sense.
MundaneConcert7890@reddit
I bet the 9070 xt is only like 10-15% faster than the 9070(not 100% sure) , from what I’ve read ..
NewestAccount2023@reddit
What monitor resolution and refresh rate do you have?
RogzX_@reddit (OP)
QHD and 180hz
NewestAccount2023@reddit
9070 xt is only 9% faster in raster and up to 15% in raytracing https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asrock-radeon-rx-9070-steel-legend-oc/33.html
Dizzy_Bookkeeper_853@reddit
9070 is a great card, don’t worry
potisqwertys@reddit
It seems your concern is whether any of those 3 cards can last 5-6 years of usage on AAA games.
None of those cards can do that, so your concern is not relevant.
Now if you mean having 15 FPS on 1080p as playable in 2030 as "okay" then yeah, you are fine.
No_Spare1827@reddit
Na thats a great card and in my opinion the 9070 is the single best value of any card today
DeafFrog@reddit
I love my 9070! I’m in the third world so pricing is a bit funny here: I got my 9070 for cheaper than a 5070 so it was a no brainer for me. The xt and 5070ti were just too much for me. The 9070 landed up being a perfect sweet spot for the price and performance I got. I also would have needed a new PSU to go for more than the 9070.
vlhube71@reddit
At 1440, the difference in performance with the XT isn’t that big a deal. It’s not like “3-4 years the XT will last more”
By the time the 9070 feels slow or old to you, the XT would had also.
fiLthyAFK@reddit
The 9070 is a perfect middle ground for price to performance when it comes to 1440p gaming, it surely is a lot better than the 5070 having only 12GB of VRAM which later on will start to struggle at 1440p.
At 1440p you will only see 7fps to 10fps difference between the 9070 and 9070xt and exact same 1% lows.
At 4K the gap is closer, the 9070xt only averages about 5fps to 7fps more than the 9070, also same 1% lows.
Don't kick yourself over your choice, you saved an extra €100.
ExplanationStandard4@reddit
The 9070 is a good choice and you can just OC it usually in the adrenaline utility if you wanted a bit more anyway
Educational-Gas-4989@reddit
no the 9070 xt is just not worth 100 euro over the 9070
fredgum@reddit
I mean, you did not say anything about your experience using the card. Are you having any issues?
There's no right or wrong on buying these GPUs. It's a matter of the what's a better deal given the current prices, your budget and your needs.