Taking the bus in Milton Keynes
Posted by Phellps@reddit | miltonkeynes | View on Reddit | 35 comments
Hi everyone, this might sound odd but something strange happened during my visit to Milton Keynes, and I’d like to know if I did something wrong or if it was just a misunderstanding.
I’m here for work (I live in Austria) and I’m new to UK public transport. I wanted to take a bus from the train station to the Cross Keys pub. When I got on, the driver asked where I was going. I assumed it was because of different fares, so I said “to Pattinson Lane please,” since that was the stop shown on Google Maps.
To my surprise, he replied “this is not the bus.” I double-checked and confirmed Pattinson Lane was on the route, so I tried showing him on my phone. He snapped back “don’t show me a cellphone screen!” which felt rude and confusing.
He kept pressing me for my destination. I tried “Cross Keys pub,” but he either didn’t know it or said it wasn’t on the way (I can’t remember exactly). I asked if I needed a code for the stop or if I should say how many stops I needed, and he just said something like “just tell me where you are going, is it in Milton Keynes?” Then another passenger said the pub was in another town—even though my map clearly showed it in Milton Keynes.
By this point I was frustrated. The bus seemed late, and I didn’t want to hold people up. I almost gave up, but then a lady reassured me I was on the right bus. The driver finally sold me a £2.50 ticket. Sure enough, we arrived at Pattinson Lane as my map showed.
So… what happened here? Did I handle it wrong? Do drivers not usually know the stop names? I’ll likely be back for work next year and would really like to avoid this kind of situation.
Thanks a lot!
OleaC@reddit
There are several Cross Keys pubs but only one in Woolstone, which is the one you wanted. I live very close to the Pattinson Lane bus stop, and it very rarely gets used to pick up or set down. Sorry for your bad experience, but some bus drivers really nasty, but I find that most are decent.
ukmike6811@reddit
I got a bus years ago and the driver was an arrogant horrible man. Clearly racist to other people. Im white and complained about him. The bus company were useless and just did a tick box exercise. They are underpaid I think and pretty useless. Its his fault not yours.
anuragjain25@reddit
Maybe next time also mention the area name as well.
Fanolian@reddit
Does Milton Keynes have a "hopper" discount scheme (not the 50p hopper fare in the city centre) similar to London's one if I have to change bus for my journey?
For example, do I have to pay for 2 separate bus tickets to take bus route 5 then 8 from Wolverton Tesco to Westcroft District Centre? And do I tell the first bus driver where I get off to change bus (Central Railway Station in this case) or my final destination (Westcroft)?
Thanks in advance.
anuragjain25@reddit
There used to be a day pass. Not sure if it is still there but you can check.
delantale@reddit
Hey mate, if you see that your stop is on the route just take the leap of faith. Yes you should be able to ask bus drivers but as others have pointed out they can be rude. Not all of them but many don’t like their jobs it seems and are grumpy. Asking the passengers is a better bet.
Phellps@reddit (OP)
I just thought I had to tell the driver which stop I had to go, I was not sure if the bus is on a fixed priced or if the price varies depending on how long you ride it.
allynstuff@reddit
I don’t live in MK anymore, but I have a similar issue sometimes where I live too. It’s not just you. My regular bus stop has 2 names, sometimes the driver doesn’t know either of them and I’m left there saying I don’t know what to tell you, that’s my stop 😂
Phellps@reddit (OP)
They should at least have a list of stop names by their side to check in case they are not sure, or they could look at my phone screen showing the bus route to confirm that the stop exists 😅
Vast_Television_337@reddit
As someone who's lived in Willen Park all their life, not far from cross keys, you did nothing wrong, the driver was just rude.
Depending on the route I assume the driver was expecting "Woolstone" or some other name for the particular bus stop, since the busses mostly follow the grid roads and not usually the street names except for a few stops where they go into the grids, but even so most MK residents have heard of the Cross Keys.
Illustrious-Patient5@reddit
same experience in the 90s with bus drivers going past you ! I wonder how many it’s still happening? . I have a hatred of buses for life ! I’d rather cycle drive walk then catch a bus
Retrogamer2245@reddit
From my own personal experience, it was when the company changed to MK Metro that things started going downhill driver wise! They used to be a bit grumpy before but they did at least help my Mum wrangle her pushchair on board! I have met nice drivers on MK Metro/Arriva buses but they seem to be a rare species!
Illustrious-Patient5@reddit
nice to see nothings changed in MK ( i’m gonna exclude the mk connect service for those qualifying invaluable service ) I remember being late 1 to 2 times a week in MK as the bus would go past me after I waited 45 minutes for a bus from tongwell to Newport pagnell . Certain bus drivers just didn’t stop ! Thanks for all the detentions f£&ers
ragingintrovert57@reddit
Do the fares depend on the destination? I only use a bus pass and so don't even tell the driver where I'm going
gentlepersuasion420@reddit
Most of the bus drivers I have encountered are completley mute when ever you try to greet or thank them, and if you try to ask them any sort of question they let out a confused, nonsensical yelp until you sit down in confusion yourself.
Your only mistake was giving your destination as a road and not a more general area. Wouldnt expect the bus drivers to know the names of the roads they are driving daily. You suggestion of a place ofher than 'forwards, backwards' was likely too much to process.
Sea-Butterscotch191@reddit
Maybe Mk has too many foreigners make local to be less patient That is sad
JoeHexotic@reddit
Yeah there's some real dicks driving buses in MK
Please complain
Projiuk@reddit
Not just MK
Accomplished_Mess243@reddit
I travel by bus quite a lot (though not in MK) and I see this sort of interaction surprisingly often. I don't know how old OP is or anything, but I often see these communicational deadlocks between middle aged drivers and Gen Z passengers. Both parties seem to have barriers of one sort or another to articulating what they want to say, and their wildly different expectations of public behaviour play into it too.
Phellps@reddit (OP)
The driver was middle aged, but I am a millennial (35 YO), so it is not that big of a gap. What I found especially strange was his unwillingness to look at my phone screen. I assume this is due to "health" reasons, but it is not like he doesn't have another bright screen in front of him while he is driving...
error_9873@reddit
Driver sounds very rude. If they can't cope with people being unsure, they're not much of a bus driver. Maybe he was having a bad day.
Last time I got a bus in MK was over 20 years ago, but I always just asked for the area, not the street name..... I'm not sure the driver's would know street names, just the route and what estates they're going through.
So I'd have just asked for "Woolstone"
Phellps@reddit (OP)
I will keep in mind for next time, thanks!
OK_Cake05@reddit
I find bus drivers to be incredibly rude and unhelpful, they behave they are doing customers a favour rather than providing a service
Phellps@reddit (OP)
Thanks, that's ok. I can handle a bit of rudeness, but the whole situation really left me perplexed. I’ll probably be back in town for work next year, so my main goal with this post was just to understand what actually happened. I’ve travelled quite a lot over the years, but I’ve never run into something like this before.
CalmStomach3@reddit
I don't think it's a named bus stop, I would have asked for Xscape as the name of the nearest one.
Vast_Television_337@reddit
There are multiple stops closer to The Cross Keys than Xscape.
magusanima@reddit
It sounds like you didn't do anything wrong, you were just surrounded by idiots (aka the confidently wrong).
The Cross Keys is a fairly common pub name though, the other passenger may have been thinking of a different one elsewhere.
Phellps@reddit (OP)
In another reply someone mentioned that there is another pub with the same name in Bedford, so I can understand the mistake being made here.
nasted@reddit
Rude bus driver! Not your fault! Woolstone Pattison Lane is correct for the No 8 bus (and on the loop route too maybe).
(There are plenty of nice bus drivers so it was just bad luck that you got that unhelpful and miserable driver).
Phellps@reddit (OP)
I had to use the bus on the first day of my trip and the driver was quite nice (or at least he acted normal and helpful). This was my second time trying to use the bus so I still thought I might have done something wrong.
FitHaYar@reddit
I live in the city and use buses for commute sometimes. The driver in your case sounds rude. Sorry you had to bear this.
The passenger was probably referring to the Cross Keys pub that’s in Bedford.
Phellps@reddit (OP)
Yes! The other passenger mentioned Bedford, so at least this part makes sense.
AdministrativeBid845@reddit
You're good... Bus drivers are miserable tossers.
DiamondBikini@reddit
Please report this bus driver. There is no need for them to be this rude.
Fun_Cheesecake_7684@reddit
You did nothing wrong, the driver was being an obstructive arsehole