How would secular people react to blasphemy against Islam in Turkey, BiH, Kosovo and Albania?

Posted by jinawee@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 23 comments

Many secular redditors say Islam has no relevance in their life, that they drink and eat pork. So they wouldn't care about clear blasphemy, unlike Islamic countries where you would be beaten and killed? Or at most they'd be angry because they see as a provocation, like when the Western right gets upset about Christian blasphemy even if they are atheists themselves?

I did read that "I shit on your book" is a thing in Turkey. Don't know if they would be ok with more explicit stuff.

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asdsadnmm1234@reddit

I did read that "I shit on your book" is a thing in Turkey. Don't know if they would be ok with more explicit stuff.

I think you are talking about some swears like "Allahını kitabını sikerim" which means "I will fuck your god and your book". You misunderstood something about this tho. This isn't meant to target islam. Think like this if someone says "i will fuck your mother" to anoter guy, does this mean person swearing targetting their own mother? No, they are talking about other guy's mother.

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Special-Ambassador65@reddit

Think like this if someone says "i will fuck your mother" to another guy, does this mean person swearing targetting their own mother? No, they are talking about other guy's mother.

? That's what 'your' is for? There's no way you can understand that as his own mother?

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asdsadnmm1234@reddit

Dude i know i explained like if you were 5 years olds but i don't know other way to explain how fuck your book isn't equal to fuck islam.

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Special-Ambassador65@reddit

You could say that it doesn't literally mean you spread the guy's mothers legs and fuck her for example. :)

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asdsadnmm1234@reddit

This is not what i meant tho. If you are christian and i say you "fuck your allah and your book" it means fuck jesus and bible.

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Special-Ambassador65@reddit

Kardo türk kökenli olabilirim:) tamam da bu türklerin birbirine söyledigi bir sey, yani islam'a karsi teknik olarak olmasi lazim. Ama kökeni vs. nereden geldigi cok tartisilir, ve tabii ki de söyleyeni dinsiz falan yapmaz. Just saying it has to technically be about islam because Turkish people say it to each other, but it's just some weird funny term, doesn't actually have any meaning about religion.

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asdsadnmm1234@reddit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm700U7Pa_c

Bak bu arkadaş mesela. Allah eri fi gibi bişey söylüyo. Bu Arapçada Allahını sikeyim demek(Ünide oda arkadaşım Hataylıydı eri fi'yi oradan biliyorum), yüzde yüz Akdenizde bölgesindeki Araplardan arkadaş. Oraların kullanımı yani.

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asdsadnmm1234@reddit

Hiç farkettin mi bilmiyorum ama bunu genelde Hataylılar, Adanalılar yapar allaha küfür işini. Yani gidip Antalyalıalardan, Ordululardan, Çorumludan duymazsın. Çünkü Hatay Adana falan dini olarak karışık yerler, özellikle Sünniliğin ve Arap Aleviliğinin birlikte olduğu yerler. Burda insanlar birbirlerine karşısının inandığı inanç üzerinden laf atarlar. Zaten sünninin sünniye allahını sikeyi demesi mantıksız ya da arap alevisinin arap alevisine senin allahını sikeyim demesi mantıksız. Çıkış noktası din farklılığı, dinin aynı olması değil zaten mantıksız böyle bişey.

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SnooSuggestions4926@reddit

wouldnt care

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Mloach@reddit

I too mock, blasphemy and curse. The thing is in most scenarios people use religion to attack nation. That's my only problem. All my friends know about it and do the same as well. Some of our curse words includes religious reference too. We just don't go around talking/swearing everywhere though because religious people who expect tolerance but show non are ready to get physical or take legal action stating that we are trying to provoke people.

Also, christians talking all high and might like they are great and peaceful people while islam is the only problematic religion (as if history of Europe is not full of wars and christians nations do not keep waging war or... you know the list) is hypocritical, funny and tragic. There is no religion of peace or religious people (in any Abrahamic religion) who are peaceful

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Used-Independence684@reddit

yet, when they call to prayer the acoustic pollution is unbearable...