Is it coincidence when aircraft are side by side on approach, or does control have a reason for it? I see a lot of these videos and saw it in person at ATL.
Coincidence, as far as I know. International airports with parallel runways in use land hundreds of planes each day, it's inevitable that some of them will approach side by side, and people tend to film that more than a run-of-the-mill landing
I have a similar video, also from O'Hare. I didn't follow the other plane all the way down to the runway, but it was following a parallel track from the lake to the airport.
I was going to say the same thing. The sheer number of landings that occur each day at these big airports means that inevitably there will be several instances where planes will be side by side like this on approach. And while most planes will have at least a few people recording videos of their landings, regardless of a parallel approach, the ones that are probably most likely to get posted to social media are those because they’re the most interesting.
Most of the time, it's a coincidence. Dual and triple approaches are easier to coordinate when the runways have enough side-to-side spacing (very roughly speaking, 3000-4500 feet) that each approach can operate independently from the others.
SFO is a notable exception, probably the most famous one. During rush hours, their typical traffic pattern is two simultaneous arrivals on 28L and 28R (which are only 750 feet apart!), then two simultaneous departures on 11L and 11R.
I’m pretty sure people’s preferences changed (dictated) social media, not the other way around. The platforms that are portrait-only are that way because it’s what the majority of people default to when they shoot video.
No that definitely is not true. There was constant complaining about vertical videos before tiktok, instagram reels, and YouTube shows increased the commonality of consuming videos in portrait mode. This was predated by the similar shift in image format caused by Instagram.
Sounds like you're old like me. Ask anyone in their 20s and they will corroborate this. The platforms pushed the format, not the other way around.
I respectfully disagree with this. Regardless of how much complaining was going on about it, it was still being done by a high enough percentage of people that it was deemed to be a standard. And you nailed it… I’m an old fart. And yes, I generally loathe video shot that way simply because it goes against our human field of vision and, to me, makes me feel like I’m watching things happening through a crack in a doorway. But back to the subject of social media platforms using it, I think eventually a platform (such as TikTok) might’ve come along that would’ve made it their standard regardless of popularity. I think it just happened more sooner than later because most people tend to default to it.
Nah, it was absolutely social media (fellow old fart here).
To add on to the previous comment, mobile-first social media like TikTok and Instagram pushed it because using your phone with one hand and scrolling is easier vertical orientation of the phone itself. More scrolling equals more ad views, and so more money for Zuckerberg’s private island luxury apocalypse bunker.
It’s not even the platform that pushed the format. It’s the fact that most users view content on mobile, and the device that everyone has in their pocket is naturally in portrait orientation.
Any training program I've ever been in (military or airline) has just called it a go-around, regardless of where you are in the process. The only difference once you're on the ground is to make sure you don't gank the nose up too quickly so you don't bang the tail on the ground.
Oh my God no one does that. It’s just a term used generally for paved surfaces. No one is making a conscious effort to impress av geeks besides other av geeks.
No, that's not how it works. Just because those are words that exist and have meaning, doesn't mean that is how they're applied in the context of aviation. Specific maneuvers have specific terms associated with them. "You know what I meant" has no place in aviation.
A go around is the name of the procedure used to abort a landing. Op said it was an aborted landing which is correct. You’re arguing as if they’d said the pilot performed an aborted landing
Eh if it was called off by the pilot due to un-stabilized approach or something sure, but this most likely was triggered by ATC due to runway/spacing problems.
Probably ‘camels on the runway’! At least, that’s what one of my instructors always shouted when inducing a wave off. Never saw one, tbh…. Instructors often over-react ….
JasonIsFishing@reddit
Is it coincidence when aircraft are side by side on approach, or does control have a reason for it? I see a lot of these videos and saw it in person at ATL.
pryan37bb@reddit
Coincidence, as far as I know. International airports with parallel runways in use land hundreds of planes each day, it's inevitable that some of them will approach side by side, and people tend to film that more than a run-of-the-mill landing
Ok_Resolution_4643@reddit
I have a similar video, also from O'Hare. I didn't follow the other plane all the way down to the runway, but it was following a parallel track from the lake to the airport.
StryngzAndWyngz@reddit
I was going to say the same thing. The sheer number of landings that occur each day at these big airports means that inevitably there will be several instances where planes will be side by side like this on approach. And while most planes will have at least a few people recording videos of their landings, regardless of a parallel approach, the ones that are probably most likely to get posted to social media are those because they’re the most interesting.
JasonIsFishing@reddit
Thanks. That makes sense. Just sheer numbers.
CerebralAccountant@reddit
Most of the time, it's a coincidence. Dual and triple approaches are easier to coordinate when the runways have enough side-to-side spacing (very roughly speaking, 3000-4500 feet) that each approach can operate independently from the others.
SFO is a notable exception, probably the most famous one. During rush hours, their typical traffic pattern is two simultaneous arrivals on 28L and 28R (which are only 750 feet apart!), then two simultaneous departures on 11L and 11R.
Mauro_Ranallo@reddit
1L and 1R 🤓
CerebralAccountant@reddit
Fair point. You might end up like JAL 2 if you tried to depart that way.
youngnacho@reddit
Just busy airports and maximizing getting people onto and off of the ground
BrewCityChaserV2@reddit
It's still legal to record video in landscape mode fyi
cyberentomology@reddit
Sure, but why would you do that? Landscape is completely uncalled for here.
TheBobRoberts111@reddit (OP)
In this case due to the shape of the window landscape wouldn't have showed any more than this. Portrait works best in this case.
ProcyonHabilis@reddit
I'm afraid that sentiment is outdated. These days people record in portrait out of preference rather than ignorance.
StryngzAndWyngz@reddit
I’m pretty sure people’s preferences changed (dictated) social media, not the other way around. The platforms that are portrait-only are that way because it’s what the majority of people default to when they shoot video.
ProcyonHabilis@reddit
No that definitely is not true. There was constant complaining about vertical videos before tiktok, instagram reels, and YouTube shows increased the commonality of consuming videos in portrait mode. This was predated by the similar shift in image format caused by Instagram.
Sounds like you're old like me. Ask anyone in their 20s and they will corroborate this. The platforms pushed the format, not the other way around.
StryngzAndWyngz@reddit
I respectfully disagree with this. Regardless of how much complaining was going on about it, it was still being done by a high enough percentage of people that it was deemed to be a standard. And you nailed it… I’m an old fart. And yes, I generally loathe video shot that way simply because it goes against our human field of vision and, to me, makes me feel like I’m watching things happening through a crack in a doorway. But back to the subject of social media platforms using it, I think eventually a platform (such as TikTok) might’ve come along that would’ve made it their standard regardless of popularity. I think it just happened more sooner than later because most people tend to default to it.
ProcyonHabilis@reddit
Check the vote totals, mare. You're just not correct about this. There is a reason I knew you were old.
StryngzAndWyngz@reddit
It’s not better on a phone. It’s just easier. And that is a fact.
schmog_@reddit
Nah, you’re wrong.
StryngzAndWyngz@reddit
I guess that settles it. I’m wrong lol.
TurnoverMysterious64@reddit
Nah, it was absolutely social media (fellow old fart here).
To add on to the previous comment, mobile-first social media like TikTok and Instagram pushed it because using your phone with one hand and scrolling is easier vertical orientation of the phone itself. More scrolling equals more ad views, and so more money for Zuckerberg’s private island luxury apocalypse bunker.
anandonaqui@reddit
It’s not even the platform that pushed the format. It’s the fact that most users view content on mobile, and the device that everyone has in their pocket is naturally in portrait orientation.
Extras@reddit
Yeah you used to get absolutely crucified for having a vertical video posted on this site.
It was a better time.
raidriar889@reddit
90% of people are going to be watching this in their ohones
PaddyMayonaise@reddit
The mass majority of internet content is consumed on a phone. Vertical short form media is now the preference amongst consumers.
We have reach the point where people complaining about not filming in landscape are the old people yelling at clouds lol
ChapterThr33@reddit
Yet another reason to hate modern social media.
ManifestDestinysChld@reddit
Shooting video in landscape now is like driving a manual transmission.
(Which is to say: everybody else can't figure out why we're better at this than they are, and that's fine.)
TaskForceCausality@reddit
Thanks to TikTok & IG, its portrait or bust
StryngzAndWyngz@reddit
I don’t think TikTok, IG, etc. would require it if it hadn’t already been made the “standard” by so many people habitually doing it.
maricc@reddit
The video was posted in full, no big deal. You need to get over it
Mike__O@reddit
No such thing as an "aborted landing". The correct terminology is "go around"
GenericAccount13579@reddit
I always thought an aborted landing was a go around after touchdown
mustang180@reddit
That would be a balked landing.
cyberentomology@reddit
And the runners advance a base.
Mike__O@reddit
Any training program I've ever been in (military or airline) has just called it a go-around, regardless of where you are in the process. The only difference once you're on the ground is to make sure you don't gank the nose up too quickly so you don't bang the tail on the ground.
rkba260@reddit
I've always heard it called a balked landing when you bounce and go.
mike-manley@reddit
"Tarmac" is the one that always gets under my skin.
silver-orange@reddit
Apparently "tarmac" is a very common misnomer in print media, and the public tends to pick it up from there
mike-manley@reddit
It just seems lazy to only say "tarmac". Like what part of the airfield are we talking about? Taxiway, runway? Apron, stand? Somewhere else?
It unlocks my inner pedant.
Mike__O@reddit
Ugh, me too. Like nails on a chalkboard. It's a word used by people who clearly know nothing about aviation, but want to sound like they do.
youngnacho@reddit
Oh my God no one does that. It’s just a term used generally for paved surfaces. No one is making a conscious effort to impress av geeks besides other av geeks.
Mike__O@reddit
I immediately think less of anyone who uses the term, especially if they should know better.
CarminSanDiego@reddit
Correct term is I got 3 child support payments and 2 alimony
youngnacho@reddit
Sure there is. Different terminology is used but a go around is by definition of the words “abort” and “landing”, an aborted landing.
Mike__O@reddit
No, that's not how it works. Just because those are words that exist and have meaning, doesn't mean that is how they're applied in the context of aviation. Specific maneuvers have specific terms associated with them. "You know what I meant" has no place in aviation.
hologrammetry@reddit
OP isn’t a pilot so they shouldn’t be expected to use or know aviation terminology, you’re being pedantic but there’s no reason for it.
youngnacho@reddit
A go around is the name of the procedure used to abort a landing. Op said it was an aborted landing which is correct. You’re arguing as if they’d said the pilot performed an aborted landing
Gumbode345@reddit
That’s very early for a go-around.
abgtw@reddit
Eh if it was called off by the pilot due to un-stabilized approach or something sure, but this most likely was triggered by ATC due to runway/spacing problems.
1nolefan@reddit
Probably the wrong airport
nlcircle@reddit
Probably ‘camels on the runway’! At least, that’s what one of my instructors always shouted when inducing a wave off. Never saw one, tbh…. Instructors often over-react ….
IM_REFUELING@reddit
Bus full of nuns
TheMeltingPointOfWax@reddit
The classic
DisregardLogan@reddit
My CFI has been recently talking about babies being on the runway
Pro-editor-1105@reddit
Double go around is crazy
mike-manley@reddit
How do you know this?
Pro-editor-1105@reddit
By double i mean the other united plane is also going around.
airwx@reddit
The plane with the person recording the video appears to be landing, it just ends a bit early
WonderWirm@reddit
Dude bumped the horizon. Had to abort.
REpassword@reddit
Nice. So it really was more like a touch-and-go? 🙂
BetterAfter2@reddit
Maybe we’ll give that joke another go-around
Initial_Insurance585@reddit
This was prob spacing issues for 10R. Poor RJ prob had to clr at w5 lol
Makarack@reddit
Nice and smooth. Bravo crew!
Acceptable_Stage_518@reddit
"Say reason for abortion."