My warning about the 9060 XT 16gb for those who are building their first setup
Posted by NeorzZzTormeno@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 185 comments
Take the $80 difference and go for the 5060 TI 16GB, it will be much better in the future.
I bought the 9060 XT 16GB guided by my favorite YouTubers and the tier list in general of any random person on YouTube. I really don't know why everyone agreed to put it above the 5060 Ti 16GB. Does being $80 cheaper justify this?:
FSR 4 support is garbage, have fun modeling with OptiScaler and hope the stars align so that the game you like has FSR 4. I can't even imagine what FSR Redstone support will be like. Plus, it's now possible to use FSR 4 on Nvidia graphics cards, which makes it suck even more than it already does.
Don't get me wrong, FSR 4 is superior to DLSS 3, but the poor support and now that it's on Nvidia leaves it in a very bad position. I mean, why the hell do I need a 9060 XT 16GB if besides DLSS 4 I now also have FSR 4? Even if it's a MOD, as AMD users, no one will deny that we're used to having to mod games to FSR4 while AMD scratches its balls.
Although AMD did an excellent job in RT, it is still slightly inferior, which is what I liked about the 9060 XT along with its performance without RT, but despite being on par in most cases, the 5060 TI wins the matches, how? Well, it has a black magic called MFG.
- Yes, I know it's AI, and AI sucks. All gamers hate AI, even though AMD swallowed its words and is now, after YEARS OF DELAY, starting to make sense of it.
- I'm not condoning the use of framerates in shitty games like Borderlands 4, but either way, MFG is a huge help in the future for those of us who don't change GPUs every two years.
Bottom line: Are you seriously thinking of saving $80 on a graphics card that's a tough sell in the future?
Don't rely so much on the crappy tier lists on YouTube. Think about it a bit and go for what's best for you in the long run, unless you're one of those people who changes GPUs every two years.
I'm currently completely disappointed with this graphics card. Far from being happy about upgrading my crappy graphics card, I'm filled with hatred and resentment toward all the idiots who recommended this piece of shit to me. I'm going to use all this hatred I have at the gym.
XEVAXI@reddit
the difference between the two cards is near negligible considering the price difference
last-choice-first@reddit
I got the 9060 16gb and the 5060 8gb in a trade. pound per pound The 5060 is better I don't really understand why but it is. With that being said, neither are bad for the price. Just stay away from the Intel.
9okm@reddit
I sort of agree. The price difference needs to be larger for AMD to make sense. Right now on PCPP, it's $60. That's not nearly enough.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
I feel like I invested my money in something inferior just for being cheap, and that I’ll probably regret it a lot over the next five years. The fact that FSR4 is now available on the RTX 5060 Ti is what pushed me to make this post.
All my life I’ve used Nvidia, but this time I decided to listen to my favorite YouTubers and basically tell Nvidia to fuck off for raising GPU prices without offering much difference again. But in the end, the technologies they have, and the ones coming, like Neural Rendering and better support for RTX Remix, have made me really resent my choice.
9okm@reddit
Sell it and get a 5060 ti 16gb then.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
It's what I was thinking of doing, but besides possibly getting less, I feel like my parents will be angry. I mean, they saw that I spent $550 on something for "kids," and they'll see that I'll sell it and spend it again, but now it'll be $640. lol
Especially my dad, since he always warned me about AMD graphics. :s
In short: The family's disappointment
Yafaihtm@reddit
Oh man I was wondering why you were disappointed and then I see you paid $550 for $350 MSRP card. I got my 9060xt 16gb for $370 , just over MSRP and for that price it is a really good really cool running temperature card. $550 us 9070 territory...
Backboob32479@reddit
I just got mine a few months ago (almost done obtaining all the parts!) and yeah, it was about 370. It's 460 now vs the 5060 ti 570 ($110 difference), but a few months ago the difference was over $200. This is my first PC and the memory has already run me through the rough, so all I'm looking for is a decent set up that can handle Spiderman or Balder's Gate 3 on a 1440p. This is plenty for me. The only thing I didn't know is that I've been researching and buying things in recommendation from my Comp Sci friend and he said this one does NOT have AI. I look at the box and it says super charged with AI :(
HellPounder@reddit
Grow up, get own house, build a PC in your own house.
Fantastic-Sea9696@reddit
Haha don't worry I have made the exact same mistake. You are not alone. This is one of the biggest problems with Youtube reviewers, which is that they never actually use what they remove. When the laptop's plastic grills are incredibly flimsy and break, they won't know because they only run benchmarks. I own the 6700xt and it FEELS like a second class GPU. You can't play BF2042 simply because AMD broke the drivers for it and never fixed it.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Out of curiosity, do you also have stuttering in Minecraft Vibrant Visuals?
R5 3600+ SSD SPATIUM S270 480GB + RX 9060 XT 16GB + 2X8 320MMHZ, in a youtube video with my same processor, but with an NVME SSD and an RTX 4060 the guy works like silk, I know I have a bottleneck, but in theory I shouldn't get such horrendous lags as the ones I experience here: https://youtu.be/TWTJ1SMAJdw
Fantastic-Sea9696@reddit
I don't really play minecraft, but I do remember that Minecraft performed worse on my PC than my friends laptop 4060 which is absurd. I totally feel you dude, when I first bought the GPU I was SOOOO excited and honestly it has been pretty good, but it is just a markedly worse experience than Nvidia.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Are you referring to the JAVA version? Java works fine for me, even with the Photon shader, even with RT, but Vibrant Visuals keeps much stuttering. God, I hope the situation improves. I don't know why people are mfs, recommending a brand they know give problems and doesn't fix them.
Battefield 2042, Verdanks in Warzone, and even Hz issues in VR. After 3 updates so far, they're still causing problems. I've only used a 1060 and then a 1030 to play with NVIDIA, and I've never had any issues with those. I really regret saving $80. I hope our testimony helps those thinking of switching to AMD.
Fantastic-Sea9696@reddit
It won't. Even in this thread, even with people who actually bought the AMD GPU telling them, they still refuse to listen. I honestly have been disgusted with tech Youtubers, for pushing AMD GPUs so hard. And you know what the final kick in the nutsack will be, 4 - 6 years later when you sell your GPU second hand? THE NVIDIA EQUIVALENT SELLS FOR 100$ MORE, SO THE PRICE DOESN'T EVEN MATTER.
Given the very small market share of AMD GPUs, I wonder how many people who are out here vehemently defending AMD actually own an AMD.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
We are cooked bro. x_x
In theory they should work well, I mean all consoles use AMD GPU, except Nintendo and they run like silk, the worst part is that they have nothing exclusive, everything ends up in Nvidia sooner or later, this will serve as experience for me to not use an AMD GPU again, my dad was right
HellPounder@reddit
FSR is designed to run on any GPU, why are you stating "FSR4 can run on 5060" as if it is Nvidia sponsored?
BlueSiriusStar@reddit
I believe that the price has been at least 3/4 to half of Nvidia's pricing with AMD needing to have at least 80% of Nvidia's offerings. Right now, it's not even at 50%, and people have been calling it a win for RDNA4. The only ones winning are the companies, not us. We have been paying through our noses for Nvidia just for AMD to launch at Nvidia - 50 for GPUs and Zen5% at higher prices than the previous gen. At least the Nvidia featureset is more plentiful, which may justify its price, but I disagree, but hey, AMD is not forcing their hand and joining their ranks instead.
9okm@reddit
I just buy used GPUs these days. The new prices for all are silly.
Troy_Boirelle@reddit
ever have any issues with used GPUs? I was thinking of getting a used one for the first time
Plus_Improvement_371@reddit
I would steer clear of Second hand GPU many have been flogged but to mining and they are selling them before they stuff up,
9okm@reddit
I've bought about 20 used GPUs over the years and they've all been fine except for one, which was totally my fault (I trusted the guy - never trust, lol). If buying locally, always see it working, in person, in front of you.
Troy_Boirelle@reddit
That's awesome, that's really good to know. Thanks! How long did you end up keeping some of these cards? I'm hoping to keep it for 3-4 years and wondering about longevity, since I'm still using a 1070 at this point and mainly just looking at 1080p or 1440p.
9okm@reddit
I only still have 1 which is a used 4070 Ti Super I bought 5-6 months ago - I'm using it right now. It's been great.
Most of the others I kept from anywhere between 2-5 years. None of them ever died. The most any ever needed was a repaste.
Troy_Boirelle@reddit
That's awesome, sounds like a really good deal. I'll have to check and see how to repaste a GPU if it ends up being needed. Was it running unnecessarily hot, is that what clued you in on it needing a repaste? Also if you don't mind, how close was the repaste to when you bought it? Thanks a million!
9okm@reddit
Usually you first notice a GPU getting louder than normal. Then you check temps and see it’s getting hotter than it should. Then you clean it out with an electric duster or compressed air. If that doesn’t help (or if it simply wasn't particularly dusty), then the next step is to repaste.
And oh gosh I have no idea. It’s different for every GPU. But a GPU almost never needs a repaste before like 3-4 years from new. Usually 5+ years (and often not even then). My 3080 is 5 years old and doesn’t need a repaste.
Troy_Boirelle@reddit
Thank you! I really appreciate the wisdom. Definitely going to get a used GPU in the near future when I pick one up. I'll pop back around and let you know how it goes sometime
Unfair-Original9995@reddit
Nie wiem jakie ceny były wtedy ale teraz ja tą kartę dorwałem o 500 zł taniej od rtxa 5060 ti, a nie o 80 zł i no gdyby cena była tak dobra to pewnie zainteresował bym się opcją Nvidi
anobjectiveopinion@reddit
I don't regret my 9060 XT purchase at all. My 5600X is the bottleneck in my system now. It runs BF6 that's all I care about.
DeepInSalsa@reddit
5060 ti 16gb costs 180$+ more than 9060 xt 16gb in some places lol
heehojackfrost404@reddit
Yeah, i don't want IDF spyware on my computer. Linux is the future of gaming and i can see the rx9060xt being more future proof than Nivida-IDF chip. Both companies are terrible, but NVIDIA legit doesn't care anymore. Not to mention the cost of the 5060Ti went up by 200 dollars the past few weeks. LOL rx9060xt is still better for the cost. Sorry you can't have DLSS with MFG on a Nivida focus tech demo.
Due_Double5856@reddit
9060 xt 16gb, 1440p, entre 100-200 fps selon les jeux. Bisous
HK201020@reddit
Hard core crash out
MisterMintu@reddit
Currently where i live Rtx 5060ti 16gb cost 250 usd more than the 9060xt 16gb.
Open-Satisfaction-67@reddit
“Tough sell in the future” have you been following the market?!?! Good luck finding any good deals on the new or used market. That applies to both AMD and Nvidia. People’s hands are being forced and now people are actually doing their research. The used market is absolutely BOOMING right now!
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
NOW FSR REDSTONE IS ALSO COMING TO NVIDIA AND INTEL AHHHH
Those who recommend this card should be fucking honest. They just want AMD not to die in the graphics sector due to their stupid internal wars, but by recommending this, they're only hurting real gamers.
I mean, YES, I'LL ONLY USE IT FOR GAMING, but GOD, THE FEW TECHNOLOGIES AMD HAS are given away to NVIDIA AND INTEL. WHY BOTHER GETTING ONE JUST BECAUSE IT'S $80 CHEAPER? I should have thought that when I bought it, damn it. Now I'm super screwed because I'm cheap. The worst thing is that on YouTube, and especially in the comments box, they keep recommending this shit because of the supposedly better rasterization and quality/price ratio.
HOW DOES THE 9060 XT WIN IN RASTERIZATION? IN NO WAY IT IS EVEN WORSE, SLIGHTLY, BUT WORSE
QUALITY/PRICE? It was only a fucking $80, the current crappy triple A's aren't even worth it, fuck I hate myself so much, I hate all the AMD fanboys and above all I hate the assholes on YouTube who recommended the 9060 XT 16gb over the 5060 ti 16gb.
fedsx@reddit
This is kind of a cringe post honestly.
That-Revolution-1144@reddit
I guess he's still to young to understand that the world doesn't give a shit about him...
Fun-Emu-4122@reddit
Why are you so worried about this? Radeons are better in terms of pure performance, and that's the most important factor. If you wanted them to have some unique super-technologies, you were expecting too much.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Nope, 5060 ti 16gb in performance pure is better too lol only for 80$ more or less now, and give the plus of rtx remix and native MFG x4.
I try MFG x4 with loless scaling and sucks very much, RX 9060 xt 16gb sucks very much, Radeon is trash, the only good of AMD is Ryzen.
Fun-Emu-4122@reddit
Call it what you want, but it's still a better deal. If you want to pay $80 extra for DLC 4, go ahead. We need more people like you to help the demand and prices for truly good cards fall.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
I don't know if you really think the 9060 XT is a good card. I'm stuck with mine for the next few years because I can't upgrade unless there are artifacts.
I'll regret this for five years. Hopefully, Radeon will finally get its act together and increase its support for FSR 4, redstone, and if possible, add MFG. Even the dying Intel is adding it—well, that's partly because they're now working with Nvidia—but anyway, not having official technologies or good support is awful.
Just look at the drivers. We've had the same bugs with Warzone, 80-90Hz in VR, and other issues, albeit minor ones. It took them five months to fix them with version 25.9.2, but now the latest drivers have a major problem that can render your PC unusable if you don't have a certain cable, something related to DisplayPort.
Nvidia recently released drivers that increase performance by 50% in some titles and partially restored Physics X. I hope they stick to that 2017 motto, "Radeons age like fine wine," because otherwise I'll be screwed when GTA 6 comes out.
Anyway, we're all screwed by AI, component prices... AHHH
Fun-Emu-4122@reddit
Do you think you wouldn't get stuck with the 5060ti?
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
In short: Yes, technology is everything for the future of gaming, and if you're going for "pure performance," the 9060 xt still loses.
MFG help, new ray tracing geometry technologies help, future techt saves VRAM and gives you new textures is really cool. Nvidia is at the forefront, and its performance is similar to or even superior in the mid-range. Radeon might only be interesting if you buy a 9070 XT, but you only have to see how users are coping with the driver problems, or users like me who are angry about the lousy and SLOW support that Radeon offers.
I repeat, AMD's Ryzen is great, but their Radeon is complete garbage. They promised us amazing things with Redstone, and they announce it with Black Ops 7, and on top of that, it's garbage. We'll have to see how it is in its full version, but don't mess with me. They sold me on technology with their announcement, I waited five damn months, and they give me a damn disappointment. Anyone would hate the brand like that.
Fun-Emu-4122@reddit
Good for what? Definitely not for 4K gaming, but it'll handle absolutely all games in Full HD, and some 2K gaming, too. What can I say? It's enough for the games I play. In fact, Nvidia drivers are far from ideal either. As for technology, new technologies are released and old ones are updated every year, if not more frequently. Basically, we don't know what will happen; maybe Radeons will one day take the lead in this regard, but this is unlikely, it's not their element, and basically everyone knows that AMD cards win in native gaming, and technology is just a bonus.I'm sure the YouTubers you watched mentioned this in their videos.
Fun-Emu-4122@reddit
Multi-frame-gen only works adequately when you already have high FPS, and AMD also has a frame-gen, and the difference in performance is within the margin of error; in some games, Radeon is better, in others, Nvidia
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Yes, I know, a difference of 5 fps at most, except in a game that was better optimized for Nvidia like Silent Hill. I understand that most companies use Nvidia's development kits, so it helps a lot with ray tracing and especially with Pro Tools.
I'm pissed off because after getting my hopes up for the RX 9060 XT with FSR Redstone so I could at least play with path tracing, since that's supposedly what this technology was for, they launch it in the worst game ever, Black Ops 7, which is garbage.
As I understand it, they'll release the "full" version on December 10th, but knowing AMD, they'll probably only support 30 games, 15 of which are terrible that nobody plays. Then we'll have to mod the rest with OptiScaler.
Honestly, I don't know who in their right mind can defend Radeon. They're incompetent and leaked the code for their "exclusive" technology.
Personally, I recommend people spend a little more on the 5060 Ti 16GB. It's currently experiencing significant price drops, and choosing the 9060 XT just to buy a AAA card is silly. As an investment, the green monopoly card is a safer option.
Fun-Emu-4122@reddit
So why pay extra if the two cards are identical, except for RTX and work tasks, in which both actually perform terribly
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Primarily because of the technologies, DLSS 4 is a gem, MFG is useful, and lately Nvidia has released performance improvements for RT and PT, in addition to VRAM-saving technology. Nvidia is literally steps ahead of Radeon, and Radeon's support is garbage.
Don't you get tired of modding games to make them run well with OptiScaler? Sure, if you have a 9070 XT, you probably need FSR4 or Frame Generation, but my point is that even the FG in XESS2 is better than that of FSR 3.1.
In terms of technology, AMD is falling behind even with Intel's undead console.
Fun-Emu-4122@reddit
So let them dump their upscalers. Why not? Intel does the same thing. This is done so that users of other cards can try FSR and see that it's a good technology.
Fun-Emu-4122@reddit
There are dozens of free upscalers, frame generators, and so on available on the internet. If the AMD technologies aren't enough for you, use them, lol. Why are you really so concerned about these technologies if Radeons, while cheaper, deliver the same FPS? What complaints could you possibly have?
Live_Buddy3986@reddit
Honestly terrible take, amd is more cost effective and who cares if every card gets fsr4 as long as you can use it, and dlss4 isn’t native in a lot of games, you have to usually inject it via the Nividia app, profile inspector, or Dlss swapper. I overall prefer Nividia do to better raytracing but If I where buying a new card today it would be amd, though I do hate how amd driver support is, once your gpu gets a gen behind drivers be taking months
Johnny_Rage303@reddit
Dude your number 1 complaint is that fsr isn't exclusive......and that's putting you into a rage. Buy a new cpu, the 3600 sucks, and enjoy your pc stop freaking out about what cards can and can't use software.
AcrobaticNetwork5918@reddit
The thing is it's for more beginner levels who are trying to save money for their budget and are not looking for the best. They just need something that will work well for 1080p & 1440p. That doesnt even include Linux users who are able to customize AMD GPUs better than Nvidia.
If I can save a couple bucks for good gaming experience, I will pay up for the 9060 XT. I got one and I got no regrets so far.
ChikiNuggiesK@reddit
Yeah. I switched to Linux recently and just purchased my Rx 9060xt 16gb to replace my 1050ti.
Small-Scallion6512@reddit
im about to make the same upgrade, are you happy with it so far??
Human_from-Earth@reddit
No problems for me.
The only problem was Fedora, resolved by switching with Debian
UninstallingNoob@reddit
AI upscalers are absolutely worth using on a 4k or 1440p display. If you can get good performance without using it, that's fine, but it's definitely worth using when it isn't.
What's not so good is frame gen. Frame gen of any kind is basically useless, and usually will be worse than leaving it disabled. For some single player games, frame gen arguably can be worth using, but it's usefulness is still extremely minimal even in the best case scenario. It improves subjective smoothness, but at the cost of WORSE responsiveness (worse latency) and worse image quality.
Human_from-Earth@reddit
Yeah, I wanted to mean frame generation, but isn't upscaling the same?
AI is still generating pixels to upscale it no?
TheOGCornholio@reddit
What issues did you have on Fedora? I'm on Fedora as well, and my 6900xt just crapped out. Considering the 9060xt but curious how mesa drivers are for RDNA 4.
Human_from-Earth@reddit
Couldn't start games on Steam.
Steam also started to be "invisible". It would open, but then I couldn't interact with the window.
And this wasn't the first time having problems with Fedora either. With my old PC I had a lot of weird problems which just disappeared after some time, without me doing anything.
I guess it was because of the constant updating.
Debian works a charm.
mercsterreddit@reddit
PEBKAC.
kraniax@reddit
I am thinking of upgrading from 3060ti 8 GB vram to this one.
I play on 1080p high or ultra. Should I bag this one? I am getting a good deal too!
Human_from-Earth@reddit
I mean, idk what's your cpu, but yeah, I had no problems. I play 1080 60 fps too.
The only game that gave problem is Wilds, with some frame drops here and there, but I think it's game's fault.
kraniax@reddit
I use the i7 12k cpu.
Human_from-Earth@reddit
why not go for amd processor too?
UninstallingNoob@reddit
Not all games have FSR 4 or FSR 3.1 support yet, but basically any big budget game will get that sooner or later. Keep in mind that a game only needs FSR 3.1 support in order for FSR 4 to work. FSR 4 has been renamed to just "FSR Redstone Machine Learning" upscaling, or just "ML upscaling" for short, I think.
FSR 4 isn't quite as good as DLSS, but it's really not that far behind, and will likely close that gap over the next few years. I do hope that they add some degree of FSR 4 support for RDNA3 and RDNA 3.5 GPUs in the next year, they really should have added support for these GPUs by now, but it's not an issue if you have an RX 9000 series GPU.
The 9060 XT 16GB is one of the most well rounded graphics cards. Unfortunately, the memory shortage is killing the financial viability of this product. It doesn't really make sense to make it anymore when the supply price of the memory has gone from maybe 60 dollars to maybe closer to 200. As such, it makes more sense for AMD to focus more on making the 9070 XT and the 8GB version of the 9060 XT, as much as I hate to say it.
PlasmaFarmer@reddit
I also bought a sapphire 9060 xt at the beginning of january. Plug and play under Linux. Works well with everything. I've upgraded from a rx 580. Take into acocunt I don't play the recent AAA games and I don't use upscaling.
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Logical-Aspect3316@reddit
Me to the exact upgrade are you happy with it
Plus_Butterfly3870@reddit
whats even the difference between linux and windows im thinking of getting a pc with the rx 9060 xt but idk anything about linux
Human_from-Earth@reddit
Linux is a free open source project that aims in giving you a functional machine and that's all.
Windows is a product of a multi-billionaire company that as it's obvious, aims at making even more money and they achieve that in many ways, one of it being the low privacy offered to its users, or the continous spam of buying this or the other product, or by overloading your system with useless crap that you didn't want, but forced to have it, because they get money from it.
Of course, given that Windows is the standard for desktop environments, 95% (made up %) of things built and published on the web are made for it and not for Linux. But things changed and got a lot better in these last years and now having Linux is totally possible for everyday users, especially if they do simple tasks like browsing or gaming.
UninstallingNoob@reddit
Performance is better on the 9060 XT than on the 5060 ti for games on Linux. AMD GPUs are just better supported in general, and more user friendly, on Linux.
That being said, Nvidia GPUs will generally have better support in productivity apps on Linux, as long as it's a GPU which is still getting driver support from Nvidia. Support for AMD GPUs in productivity apps is continuing to improve, but don't count on any productivity app working as well as it will on the nearest equivalent Nvidia GPU.
mercsterreddit@reddit
https://www.phoronix.com/review/radeon-rx-9060xt-amd-linux
You sure about that? You sure about that?
UninstallingNoob@reddit
I have seen at least five different sources which show that AMD GPUs have a clear advantage, on average, in gaming on Linux, and this Phoronix article is the first I've ever seen which shows Nvidia ahead. Here's a few of them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovOx4_8ajZ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgKfW2aFJh4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77LBtP3nZwY
UninstallingNoob@reddit
Yes. I have seen tons of benchmarks and videos on this subject, and I am definitely right. The link you showed does not contradict anything I've said, you effing moron.
Haunting_Classic_918@reddit
That describes me perfectly. Thanks!
KillEvilThings@reddit
This reads like an AI hitpiece, fuck off.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
It's not just with AI, but in general, the 5060 Ti still beats it, especially in productivity.
Besides, what are you complaining about? If your own beloved AMD has now gone for AI and does it as slowly as possible, then you're on your own if you want to keep recommending this crap. I'm sure you don't even have the time to give your opinion.
At least I tested my friend's 5060 Ti, especially on Portal RTX. The performance with my 9060 XT was similar, but everything changed when using MFG. Honestly, it didn't feel bad at all.
As for drivers, he told me it depends a lot, that it's the same crap that happens on AMD. Just look at r/AMDhelp to see how many 9070 XTs have problems.
Bearcat_Bro@reddit
Who buys a 5060 it or a 9060 xt for productivity? Shills?
leolego2@reddit
me i ain't got money
S1rTerra@reddit
*slowly raises potential hand* compared to everything else on the market... If you're a content creator and don't have a lot to spend, nvidia cards ARE always better. Unless you only really record videos with light editing, then any AMD card will be fine.
Human_from-Earth@reddit
Lmao dude, I hope you're AI bot, or if you're human, they paying you well
dlovepau@reddit
> but everything changed when using MFG....
Looks like you forgot to mention about Latency comes with MFG it's easily double/triple the number of latency, it's not pure black or white, oh also the 2x, 3x, 4x more like 1.5x 1.75x and 2x at most. Nvidia also have shady practice, just not as bad as AMD.
Reggitor360@reddit
Wouldn't be the first time Nvidias Marketing did this lol
leolego2@reddit
Price difference is now 300 euros in my country lol
GeneralTraag307@reddit
I've never played a game where fsr made it look any better anyway, it actually makes most games I play look worse. It stays disabled always. The 9060 is great at what it's designed for, and that's to be the best budget friendly 1080/1440 card on the market. At least for a couple more months. I've never been disappointed with any amd card, and I've owned 4 generations of them. If I can play the games I like on max settings for 4 or 5 years, that's good enough for me. Thats the thing with pc hardware. You can buy top of the line everything, and 6 months later something better hits the market, and your stuff is worth 1/4 what you paid for it.
AWP_ACE_KID@reddit
All depends on what you need it to do I guess, I was a pretty poor gamer who had a 15 year old rig so I went from a rx580 to a 9060 XT. I am OVER THE MOON with how this gpu performs.
bowie_74@reddit
I see that many notice a big change to the new graphics. I have a super GTX 1650 and I plan to upgrade to this one, it's for 1080p at 180hz. Do you think it's worth it?
AWP_ACE_KID@reddit
Me personally? Huge difference I have yet to find an game that doesn't default to ultra settings at 1080p.
Playful_Act_9516@reddit
Several games don't automatically set to ultra, but 90% of them run well on ultra; I only have a few exceptions: - Alan Wake 2 (playable on any settings, but with many stutters that don't disappear even with everything on minimum) - Hellblade Senuas 2 (unplayable for me, with many stutters just from moving the camera) - Dead Space Remake Denuvo (when I bought it, I had to request a refund because it ran terribly, but when I downloaded it (not entirely legally), it unexpectedly ran much better, with stutters only when changing rooms)
Minimal problems in various games like Spiderman 2, Cyberpunk 2077, etc. You can play with everything on ultra, but if you play with RTX on ultra, I've had to lower the population density to medium or use some other device to achieve a stable 60 fps (many of these using FSR4 natively and not as an upscaler).
ChikiNuggiesK@reddit
Going from a 1050ti to a Rx 9060xt will love to see the jump up in performance
greasykiwi@reddit
I genuinely can't tell if this is a shitpost or not lmao
Fit_Substance7067@reddit
He's pissed at the FSR 4 support in games and assuming optiscaler fixed everything because people told him lol
Sounds like legit rage
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Oh no, I found out about Optiscaler after AMD went quiet for a weeks. It took them forever to roll out games with FSR4, and what pissed me off even more was that they launched it with garbage titles like Funko Popo or Hundown of Shotdown.
Then I realized modders were actually doing the job AMD should’ve been doing with Optiscaler, and I was happy… until those assholes went overboard, making FSR4 work on older GPUs, especially Nvidia, which killed the whole joke about FSR4 being “exclusive” to the 9000 series.
Now I just hope Redstone does something really good, maybe even MFG. If I can't, then I'll have to try to scam someone with this garbage and go for the 5060 ti, but knowing my luck, maybe the Nvidia Jews will raise the price again.
BlueSiriusStar@reddit
Understand your situation, OP. AMD is a company who give no fks about their current buyers. With my past personal and work experience with them, I will never touch their stuff again. Nvidia is just plain out better with higher resale value in the end. It just much easier to sell those cards out in the used market. Also, dont get me started on software. Usually, they just test on one product and claim that it works on every product. They suck at making software. At this point, even AMD is begging Intel to overtake them in Hardware. The best part is that the management at AMD probably dont care since consumers are the beta testers buying these products.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
I hate AMD fanboys and YouTubers who for some reason recommended AMD over Nvidia this time. -_-
BlueSiriusStar@reddit
At this point, I would recommend Intel as it's much cheaper and performs better than rivals in its price class, and it's also not the Nvidia - 50 in price with no features.
mercsterreddit@reddit
Mate, I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and posit that maybe, MAYBE, your experience isn't the same as everyone elses. You have a bad experience with some hardware, and now you're angry at... I dunno, random Youtubers? If youtube is your source of information, I'm not sure they're the problem. Do research yourself, in text, with ample benchmarking.
I know you're young, it's cool, but I'm telling you... hardware configurations, combinations, luck of the draw... a lot of stuff can influence whether someone has a good experience with a given piece of hardware or not. And others will have different requirements, run different software, etc. You're taking your own anecdote and applying it to the entire world.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Do you think I can sell this 9060 XT 16GB? Would telling him I'm selling the card to buy another one be a bad idea?
BlueSiriusStar@reddit
I think you should consider what your budget is. Nvidia's new Super series may be released in January or at the end of Q1 next year.
In the meantime, you can either keep the 9060XT or, since you are facing many problems with it, just sell the card as it is and save some cash by buying ARC.
Man, it's up to you, but I if we're you, I'd keep it just for the vram, but if you're not going to utilise it properly, then just sell it without remorse.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Mmm, I bought the 9060 XT 16GB for $537, the ASUS PRIME 3 FAN OC EDITION model, for $80 more I get the same model but in 5060 TI 16GB.
I understand that there will only be super versions of the 5070 and 5080, and I think the SUPER version of the 5060 will be like the regular RTX 5060, with a little more power and 12GB VRAM. I don't think they'll give 16GB VRAM knowing Nvidia. Just in case, I'll wait, because I plan to buy something long-term and I think with 12GB it will become obsolete very quickly. :(
BlueSiriusStar@reddit
Woah, that's expensive. I bought my account 9070XT for around 600 USD before the discount. I dont really like the GPU's below the 5070 because it's a joke in 2025 for any sane person to choose between more VRAM and a worse GPU vs a less VRAM and a slightly better than worse GPU.
The Super versions might not come to the 5060. But the 5070 Super should come with 18GB of VRAM and would fit your bill very nicely. The only problem is that it is releasing next year, so the long wait, but on the other hand, the cheaper B580 is 12GB.
But man, I can't wait for the Super series to come. Am currently working and saving up for the 24GB 5070Ti Super, which would be a massive upgrade from my current friend given 4070.
Long term wise, Super series will obliterate anything from AMD and Intel in the coming year and maybe even the next next year until 60 series is released. I think it depends on you if you prioritise your gaming needs now, then maybe the Super series isn't for you unless the money supply is unlimited.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Personally, I no longer feel like buying anything other than Nvidia. The best technologies are always from Nvidia, and well, it's the same as nothing, I think. Intel and AMD give away their technologies, and I don't like that. I feel like it's pointless to spend money on other GPUs because I'll end up using their technologies with Nvidia.
That 18GB VRAM 5070 super looks very great, but if the 5070 ti costs $1,300 in my country, I can't imagine how much this one will cost. Maybe if it's $789 like the regular 5070, I'll buy it, but I'll say goodbye to my CS2 inventory, haha. Although with an X070, at least for me, I wouldn't have to renew a GPU for at least 10 years.
I might sell the 9060 XT 16gb and still use the 1030 I had, while I continue saving and waiting for the new generation. Personally, I'm not interested in current games. I have several in my Steam library from when I had the 1060, and I also have a good amount on Epic, Gog, and Xbox.
BlueSiriusStar@reddit
I mean, you should buy what's best in your country. I dont like both Nvidia and AMD but more on AMD because of the borderline shady practises they have and the entire fanboy army for that company, which just irritates the hell out of me.
Nvidia has at least proven itself, and even though it has shady practises. I still ironically have to bring myself to use it.
A console or a steam deck would be a better buy. Heck, I previously used 3060 12GB, which is still my GOATED card due to its 12Gb vram for its time. Yup, so thinking long term, the 5070 Super will be the best buy probably since the 1080ti if it releases at its current price.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Ty very much for all bro, ,you are more transparent than many YouTubers or fanboys, a true gamer.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Yes, I live in Latin America, the 9070 xt is $1000 and the 5070 ti is $1300. In that case, the 9070 xt isn't bad for the price/quality ratio, but in my case, I was very foolish.
I was thinking of lowering it to about $28. It still has the store and manufacturer's warranty, so I think it's fine. Hopefully someone will realize it and be able to exchange it for the 5060 ti right away. I don't think there's a super version of the 5060 ti, and if there is, I think it'll be out of my budget. Although, personally, I'm afraid of screwing up again because I'm anxious. Do you think if I wait a few months, I could still sell the 9060 xt 16GB (I bought it in June)?
lucidechomusic@reddit
You sound like an alt-right cry baby lol
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Yes, stupid Radeon and Tier list
Raknaren@reddit
Running all this on a R5 3600 may be the problem.
A whole post to complain about a GPU with zero other specs...
Reggitor360@reddit
Nvidia currently has a lot of negative press.
And all of a sudden tons of people spring up want you to buy Nvidia GPUs.... Hmmmmmm weird.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Yeah, the YouTuber I used to follow, the one who first recommended me the 9060 XT 16GB,talked about how Nvidia manipulated people into speaking well of them. That, plus the hate I already had for Nvidia raising prices compared to the previous generation, and all the tier lists I saw on YouTube recommending this card over the 5060 Ti, made me buy it.
But it’s shit, I don’t see any future for this piece of garbage. The only thing that made it interesting is now also on the 5060 Ti. I’m sure they’ll do the same with FSR Redstone.
On top of that, I let myself be fooled by AMD’s ad picture of “3.4X FPS” in Warhammer 40K Space Marine 2. I thought it was their alternative to MFG, but then I realized they only have the same old FG x2, and it’s crap compared to XESS 2.0.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Maybe it sounds like crap because of Google Translate, but what I’m trying to say is that the 9060 XT 16GB is trash compared to the 5060 Ti 16GB.
At least between a 5070 Ti and a 9070 XT, the price/performance difference makes sense, but with the 9060 XT it doesn’t at all. The idiots who recommended it to me ruined my year — in the future I’ll be stuck with a damn paperweight. With everything Nvidia has and plans to release, at least as a long-term investment I feel the 5060 Ti 16GB will age much better than this piece of junk.
Logical-Aspect3316@reddit
The difference in UK is £100
Waste-Ad-686@reddit
In India currently, there is almost a 200$ dollar difference between the two, the 9060xt being cheaper. The biggest thing is, don't act like 80$ is nothing, not everyone can build a pc with 80$ of wiggle room, especially people on tight budgets, for them 80$ can make or break their build. Just be grateful with what you got, I have personally daily driven my old pc with integrated graphics for 10 years, don't tell others it's a waste of money, if it's what they can afford at best, they should go for it, stop acting like a spoiled brat and be grateful for what you got, complaining about AI, just lower your settings on newer games when they come out and play. There are millions of people out there who would be happy with that card.
According_Spare7788@reddit
While I don't think it's that bad, i do see some legit grievances to your argument. FSR adoption is still poor, and Nvidia genuinely has the advantage when it comes to software. Better upscaling quality, better frame gen, better ray tracing performance. Anyone who argues otherwise is just seriously kidding themselves.
However, if we take those things out of the picture, then Radeon is very competitive in pure rasterization, and price to performance (specific models in specific markets at least)
Driver issue tho, i dunno. Nvidia seems to be the worse one for drivers rn, but i don't have first hand experience with the newer stuff. I've had bad experience with radeon drivers in the past tho. TBH, this topic can be all over the place with everyone's personal experiences being different.
At the end of the day, it's down to what is more important to you.
Jarlam_Dev@reddit
That's true, it all depends on each person's experience. In the past, I had a lot of problems with AMD drivers, but my brother has one and has never had any issues, and I have an RTX 2060 and I've never had any problems.
IngenuityOne6256@reddit
"I am completely disappointed in this graphics card!" (Wishes it could AI upscale better)
I'm sorry, but there's no way you bought an AMD card over Nvidia and then post that you're an avid user of upscaling.
100% shitpost.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Now that Redstone is out, I'm even more disappointed. I don't understand your comment xD. So, because I'm an Nvidia user, I can't risk trying Radeon because lately it's trendy to demonize Nvidia and say nice things about Radeon, even though Radeon is still terrible? I don't know about you, but at the RX 9000 conferences, they promised a huge improvement in Pro Tools with Redstone, and you only have to look at the comparisons to realize it was all a scam. I took a leap of faith because of all the idiots who put it above the 5060 Ti 16gb, and now they've ruined my life for at least 5 years, since nobody wants to buy it from me despite having a 3-year warranty. -_-
Jarlam_Dev@reddit
I've watched countless videos and absolutely none of them put the 9060xt above the 5060ti, not a single one! I don't know who you follow, but I seriously haven't come across a single video that says that... The 9060xt has only been better in games optimized for AMD, and that's about it.
Initial-Armadillo-67@reddit
its not out though its releasing on december 10th
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Ohh, I hope what we saw in BO7 is just a beta; I saw the comparisons and it's way behind Nvidia's DLSS. :(
IngenuityOne6256@reddit
I'm saying that it's commonly known in the PC space that Nvidia is the best at add-on type features such as raytracing and upscaling, whereas AMD makes more budget friendly cards with less features but more vram. You said you're an avid user of upscaling, yet you chose an AMD graphics card. You have a perfectly fine graphics card, better than most people's, but it isn't good enough because it doesn't have the features you wanted when everyone knows that company doesn't specialize in said features. No one "scammed" you, you just took their advice as to the best card but didn't realize it wasn't the best card for your personal use case. It's a lesson learned
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
PT: Pay tracing, no pro tools, google translate sucks
Jarlam_Dev@reddit
Man, I don't understand why you're upset that FSR4 is on NVIDIA when NO ONE with an NVIDIA card is going to use FSR4 anyway, given that DLSS 4.0 is more optimized for NVIDIA because it's native and offers better speed and optimization... Besides, they just released DLSS 4.5 and it's already surpassed FSR4.
Yes, the 5060 Ti is superior in most games, but that's common knowledge. AMD is for those who don't want to spend too much money or for those who really hate NVIDIA because they're price gougers.
Anyway, the 9060 XT is very good and almost matches it in FPS in most games. It's possible your computer is poorly configured, which is why you're noticing such a big difference between the two cards. There are many factors to consider:
- CPU, RAM, Motherboard.
- Power settings in Windows and Adrenaline Software.
- SSD vs. HDD.
- Optimization in Adrenaline Software.
And well, on the other hand, I think your anger is mostly because your dad was right and you weren't, and that by not listening to him you made that mistake hahaha. You should sell that card and admit your mistake to your father; that will help you grow as a person.
YBTHEKING_BrianGreve@reddit
Altid noget du ikke fik 8gb udgaven, 16gb kan du da køre kanon 1080p og rimelig 1440p
YBTHEKING_BrianGreve@reddit
Jeg er til fornuftige valg, jeg heller ofte mod AMD, men ikke I dette tilfælde. 9060xt 8 GB og 5060 med 8gb er intet værd.
9060XT 16gb er et absolut starter kort for børm og 1080p der er et kæmpe gab fra det kort og op til 9070 16gb,hR aldrig set så stort et gab imellem grafikkort serier. 9070XT er genialt ig det er 9070 også, kandu finde et af dem lettere brugt med et års garanti på, ja så er du jo i enkelt anden verden
Tasty_Wrap7832@reddit
Cheapest 5060ti at my place is $125 more than 9060xt and that includes discount btw. Some brand can go pass $250.
Like why would I spend more if the improvements are not worth 125-250? Nvidia is notorious to have bloated prices outside of US or EU
Carlao-santos@reddit
I have a 9060XT 16gb gigabyte, my biggest sadness is the countless crashes that occur in games like BF6, COD6 (I don't finish a game in multiplayer) which then crashes. I've tried everything.
Carlao-santos@reddit
Troquei para uma RTX 4070 TI problemas resolvidos!
ChikiNuggiesK@reddit
Seems like something with your system maybe lack of ram bad ram weak CPU bios issues driver issues.
TheLastJabberwocky@reddit
Go to bios and disable fast boot. Since doing that it works amazing for me
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
I dont give crash in warzone o BO6, in AMD the problems look diferents with the model you buy. (Asus, Gygabite, etc)
I see others with 9070 xt with the same problem of you in BO6, for quriosity... What CPU you use ?
UninstallingNoob@reddit
A lot of people already have to be convinced to stretch their budget to get the 16GB 9060 XT. An $80 dollar higher price is a lot extra to pay for a card which won't give a significantly better experience in the vast majority of games.
In the rare cases of games which are very demanding, and which don't yet support FSR4, they will look nicer on a 5060 ti (16GB), but FSR4 support will come sooner or later to probably every demanding big budget game.
For older systems with weaker CPUs and/or slower RAM, the 9060 XT suffers significantly less bottlenecking, and it also doesn't suffer any significant performance loss from being used on a motherboard which doesn't support PCIe gen 4, as long as it has 16 PCIe lanes to use. On a Ryzen 3600, or an Intel 8700k, the 9060 XT (16GB) will be the far superior option vs. a 5060 ti (16GB). The 8GB model of 9060 XT is also better than the 8GB model 5060 ti, but you should probably not get either of those.
The 5060 ti has better ray tracing performance in some games, but not all games. It has the biggest advantage in the most demanding ray tracing scenarios, but in those scenarios, you probably shouldn't be using those ray tracing settings with a 5060 ti either, especially path tracing. Some games are better optimized for ray tracing on Nvidia hardware, so it's not necessarily a case of the Nvidia GPU actually being that much better.
AMD GPUs are also far superior for gaming on Linux.
UninstallingNoob@reddit
And when I say that the 9060 XT 8GB is better than the 5060 ti 8GB, I mean that it's a better value. It's also a bit less prone to being memory bandwidth starved as well. However, if they were the same price, the 5060 ti would be a bit better, at least for some people. I would still strongly urge people to not get either of those cards unless there's a huge price gap between it and all available 16GB models.
Any-Object4351@reddit
If 5060 ti 16gb is $87 more do I get it? I want to balance between gaming and engineering workloads (for uni)
3rfi666@reddit
I don't know if I'm too late but you should buy the 5060 ti, it does have better integration with engineering apps and that sort of stuff. Don't mistake me for one of those NVIDIA shills, I recently bought a 9060 xt and I'm in love, but they don't work well with what you want.
shralla@reddit
This is not a serious post lmao
Flat_Job7823@reddit
Imagine buying a budget gaming GPU and complaining about it not accomplishing a more complicated task. It's a budget GPU it's for gamers who can't afford to buy anything more expensive. Secondly it beats the 5060 because for the extra money you're not getting that many more frames.
syce_16@reddit
You're crazy. Fsr 4? Lossless scaling. And the other points are just irrelevant bullshit. Definitely Nvidia fanboy or just pissed off at amd for no reason.
Altruistic_Hair_4821@reddit
Just bought a 9060 XT. $130 cheaper than 5060ti in my country. Completely satisfied with the card and the price.
CarusoTrap@reddit
I'm afraid I have to disagree with your premise. I'm not considering resale value when I buy something...that requires parsing an entirely different set of parameters that don't interest me.
I just finished a new build that greatly upgrades a dying Xbox Series X (huge surprise that it was dying after 3 years 😐) Replacing a console with a $4000 gaming rig didn't make sense. I had a form factor (mATX), price point ($1500) and a performance point right now that I was trying to reach for this system, and that required compromises. That 9060 XT 16GB gives me rock solid 60fps at 1440p and max settings for a price that I can live with, and the MB and PSU give me something of an upgrade path if I want to replace the CPU and GPU. Yes, I can build a system that would blow this one out of the water and make back some money 3 years from now, or I can build something that matters to me now. All of those YouTube videos recommending this GPU do so based on what users will do with that card now, not how much we can sell it for 3 years from now.
OlivGaming@reddit
I say again, FPS/$.
SuddenGuitar8332@reddit
Agreed! Gave AMD a shot knowing they are only second best, but the gap between them and NVIDA is too big now. If you also have an AMD CPU you are better off spending the extra money buying the 3D version of your CPU and sticking with onboard graphics. Better performance and way less black screens and driver conflicts that way.
Dustlight_@reddit
I recently bought one and I’m plagued by frequent green screen crashes I’m switching back to nvidia
Fit_University_5201@reddit
rx 9060 xt is what you bought? or is it an another amd card?
Dustlight_@reddit
Yeah the RX 9060 XT Pulse
Fit_University_5201@reddit
Could you confirm you tried the following fixes? as I'm thinking of buying the exact module;
. Disabling MPO.
. Disabling Fastboot in Windows.
. Disabling windows update from reinstalling drivers automatically (through device manager or use wintoys) (Windows 11 updates is know for screwing/corrupting/replacing drivers etc)
. Turn off auto update in AMD adrenaline and use a known stable drive.
. Adrenalin, steam, discord etc all overlays off.
. Select 4.0 for PCI-E in the BIOS instead of automatic.
. Try to update your motherboard BIOS.
. Recheck/re-seat GPU and Ram connection, as sometimes it is just a connection issue.
. Make sure your RAM is stable, I would suggest reverting to defaults and seeing if the problem continues (XMP is generally an overclock, and you should generally assume that when issue occurs that the overclock is the best first place to start troubleshooting, run any sort of adequately validating stress tests upon it to check for instability. There exists a real chance that could be the problem).
These are common fixes that I found scattered on reddit, hope one of them works.
Dustlight_@reddit
I tried most of those but honestly I was tired of troubleshooting and just sent it back and got a RTX 5070
ChikiNuggiesK@reddit
Sounds like issues with drivers
Dustlight_@reddit
I’ve ddu’d and tried every driver version
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Good luck, in my case I can only return it if I have artifacts.
Dustlight_@reddit
Luckily it’s within the 30 day window so back it goes
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Damn, I didn't know that, how stupid of me.
chris32457@reddit
You didn't talk about 'the future' at all. What is it about the future that you think the average 9060xt or 5060Ti owner is going to prefer the 5060Ti instead?
They're so close in performance by the way so I'd say save the $80 and go with the 9060xt.
OlivGaming@reddit
As someone who almost never plays with ray tracing, it's not an effect for me. FPS/$ is what generally guides me, and the 5060Ti is not often beating the 9060XT.
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
Nope, the 5060 Ti 16gb beats it in raw performance, especially in single-player games. Only in esports does the 9060 XT have a slight edge, as it's inferior to the 5060 Ti in CS2.
Oh, it also crashes in Battlefield 6, Arc Riders, and other games. Remember that most games use Nvidia's developer pack, so when a developer or AMD messes it up with the drivers, you have to wait until the next driver update for them to fix it, and that usually takes months.
If you want, go for the 9060 XT; you'll have fun with the drivers. Cheers.
Raulzindograuu@reddit
NVIDIA (RTX 5060 Ti 16GB)
Profile: User who wants a "Set it and forget it" experience. Wants max Ray Tracing in story-driven games (Cyberpunk, GTA VI). Works with video/3D editing (CUDA cores).
Cons: More expensive. Higher power consumption. The "NVIDIA tax" is real.
AMD (RX 9060 XT 16GB)
Profile: Competitive gamer (Warzone, CS, Valorant, Apex). Wants the maximum FPS per Euro. Doesn’t care about Ray Tracing (realistic lighting that eats 50% of performance).
Pros: Unbeatable value for money. Plenty of VRAM (16GB native). Modern drivers (Adrenalin) have improved a lot. Very energy-efficient (RDNA 4).
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
I understand that Radeon cards consume the most energy, but if that changes, that's great.
I don't know what country you're from, but the difference was about $80 when I bought it; currently it's less for both ASUS PRIME 3 FAN OC EDITION 16GB models.
"Adrenaline drivers have improved a lot," just look at the havoc caused by 25.11.1 and 25.10.2
Some people lost video because they were using HDMI 2.1 and didn't have another cable.
Not to mention that it took 5 months to fix several problems, including the VR 80-90HZ with drivers 25.9.2.
I'm waiting for reviews of version 25.12.1 before installing it so I don't mess anything up. I've been sticking with 25.9.1, which is the best for me, although the adrenaline overlay sometimes takes a while to appear, but after that it's fine.
Janteriva@reddit
2 months old thread i know, but in my country the 5060 ti 16gb is almost 2 grand more than the 9060 xt is currently. Though got the 9060 on a sale. So the choice was easy tbh.
Last AMD gpu was xfx 9890 or something like that ages ago. So i thought try amd again. Up from 1660 super 6gb.
The size between then was crazy, 9060 ALOT smaller. But a big jump in fps indeed.
Like others have said ppl have different needs, budget and kids dont allow a to expensive card tbh.
Fit_Substance7067@reddit
This is why I recommend the Nvidea counterpart 9 times out of 10...Software and features really are that important and opticscaling sucks co.pared to just having DLSS 4 on almost all games with a flick of a switch at most
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
I don’t know why all the idiots on YouTube recommended it, even though the difference was very small compared to the 9070 XT vs the 5070 Ti.
Me, for being a shitty cheapskate, went for this garbage, and now I’ll regret it for the next five years of my fucking life.
Fit_Substance7067@reddit
Literally got down items for saying optiscaler sucks compared to DLSS 4 lol
Reddits a shit hole too...people rooting for underdogs when they are underdogs for a reason..AMDs marketshare sucks for a reason..this isn't fanboyism this is acceptance..until AMD does more than a shitty fake MSRP and A.I. that's more than in a few games then I won't recommend them...you need your money more than they do
lucidechomusic@reddit
but you're the internet, telling us what to do...
NeorzZzTormeno@reddit (OP)
I did it because I've been following a YouTuber for years...
That disappointed me, but I learned an important lesson: you can't count on anyone, ESPECIALLY YOUR HEROES.
BlueSiriusStar@reddit
Same here as well. Used to work for that company, and I only bought their competitors' products even while I was working at graphics. Their GPU are terrible and terrible value as Nvidia basically allowed me to do basic AI tasks back in '22. While this company doesn't even support pytorch, then. I am so glad that Intel is up and coming.
I always tell people we need good competition not competing for the sake of competing. AMD only serves to wake Intel up. Then Intel will outperform AMD in the future and at least then we would have a better competitor to Nvidia.
Individual_Help1484@reddit
I'd like to understand (for gaming purposes only, obviously).
why you consider it a bad purchase?
From what I've seen, the difference in gaming performance compared to the 5060 Ti is only 3-4 FPS lower, and with an $80 price difference (it's much more in my country), I consider it more than worth it.
ChikiNuggiesK@reddit
I will receive my Rx 9060xt that I got for 370 EUR if I wanted a 5060ti I would've cost around 480eur so I am very happy with my choice
bowie_74@reddit
What game did you do wrong? What other components do you have? Do you use it in 1080p or 1440? It seems that you come from a 5090 for the graphics to seem so bad to you
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UserBenchmarks.com? Is that you???
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SirHikaru@reddit
In Spain, the difference is around 100$ difference. If you are only going to game at 1080p or 1440p, there is no debate about which one to choose, the 9060 xt.
Now, if you have other uses like rendering or modelling, it has been always known that Nvidia is superior in that aspect.
Conclusion, same matter we had the last 5 years. Gaming? Amd. Gaming+Rendering/Modelling? Nvidia.
The 5060 TI is indeed superior, but that's the reason why it's more expensive, it's obvious. For some, 80-100$ difference might be a bargain, for others it's an opportunity to reinvest it on better ssd, ram or any spec.
TheSignof33@reddit
In my country difference is 160$ LOL, 5060 Ti 16G got some rare discounts along the way but right now it's just too expensive to consider for a budget build. Nvidia stagnated in this gen, that's why they relied on multi frame gen gimmicks meanwhile AMD got much better and catched up with Nvidia in many benchmarks for less price, upscaling and other software feature can be made better as the time moves on but considering the games I play, upscaling wouldn't do me any good anyways. I will pull the trigger tomorrow, based on best price to performance ratio.
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Weird_Economics_5683@reddit
I think it's pretty fair. Between AI and 3D modeling 16gs as cheap as possible is something a lot of people want.
Live_Buddy3986@reddit
I just wanna point out that 2x frame gen is the most one should ever use and even then it’s booty not really a feature to bank on
julodegracia@reddit
i have rx 9060 xt and i have no regrets. it does its job when just playing on 1080p and some other 1440p games. dont get me wrong rtx 5060 ti is a great card too. but price to performance 9060 wins.
Dear_Suspect_4951@reddit
Found a 5060 ti for the same price. I got really lucky it sounds like
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Me when I'm a bot account made to shill Nvidia.