How's it going Europe?
Posted by XiJinpingChinaParody@reddit | 4chan | View on Reddit | 56 comments

https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/720716747
Posted by XiJinpingChinaParody@reddit | 4chan | View on Reddit | 56 comments
https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/720716747
notapandah@reddit
Why are nvidia cards always more expensive than their Radeon equivalents?
futainflation@reddit
because nvidia cards are better and sellers know that so they just make up stupid prices and people will still buy them
ff_Tempest@reddit
They aren't even better unless you use them for high end AI shit
Skjellnir@reddit
shhhh, let him spend his money how he wants to.
arbiter12@reddit
I bought 3 amd cards over the past 20 years. ALL of them, without fail, ended up being incompatible (long time ago), having weird drops in performance, or just failing and needing to be returned.
At some point I don't need to eat the entire bush of poison berries, after it made me sick 3 times, to realize I don't want to eat more.
AMD folks strike me as the same as the linux ones: You want to believe your product is better, I mean it's objectively cheaper and it beats the benchmarks, right? And yet it's significantly less used in the wild, meaning it's a clearly worse experience/product for enough people.
The people who buy their own high-end GPUs are not stapple-consumers. They know what they want and spend on it. If everybody just used what's given by default in pre-built, most people would use Edge (or just buy AMD pre-built).
Doyoulike4@reddit
I bought my first AMD card because my Nvidia card was incompatible with games, had weird drops in performance, hit VRAM limits, and had buggy drivers. The AMD card was still a bit buggy, but somehow less than the Nvidia, never hit the VRAM limits and rarely had game compatibility issues and that experience has only gotten less buggy over the past 15 years. If AMD ever manages to actually piss me off I'm 100% going to either try Intel Arc or go back to Nvidia but they've yet to do it.
CopeSeethSneed@reddit
So you had problems with a single graphics card form nvidia in the 2010’s and decided to go full amd at that time. lol. Amd cards were terrible at that time and only recently have they been decent, software wise.
Doyoulike4@reddit
Well had problems with 2 in a row, and when contacting their support, was pretty much told there's non-zero odds the 3rd one is going to have the exact same set of problems and there was talk of just refunding me and more or less giving up on this, or trying to do some trade up to a 460 or even 470 in exchange for the 450 and the price difference. So rather than gamble on the thing that's already not worked twice,
You don't have to believe me, and I'm not gonna say it was a flawless experience, I still did have some game optimization or outright not running issues on that HD6950, but it never blue screened like the GTS450 did, it never cut out my audio like the GTS450 did, and I didn't hit VRAM limit game crashes like I did on the GTS450. Honestly I had a good enough time with that HD6950 and RX480 back to back that I gambled on that all new at the time AM4 socket and did an entire fresh build with an RX590 and an 1800X.
If I can ever get a really good deal on an Nvidia card over AMD when I'm upgrading or AMD bungles their software/drivers bad enough I'll go back. Although at this point Intel has also entered the fray, they never really did anything bad to me on the CPU front, and if they offer a real mid-range or even high end GPU at the same basement prices they have been, I might snag a C770 or something in 2026/2027.
CopeSeethSneed@reddit
No I believe you , I just hope amd is better now then it was , since the last time I bought their gpu in 2013
Doyoulike4@reddit
They're better than they were then for sure, whether they're on Nvidia's level varies wildly on GPU generation and if Nvidia slips any to drop their level. Intel right now is probably making GPUs on the reliability tier of 2010-2015 AMD, but I can excuse them between it being so much cheaper than AMD/Nvidia, and outside their integrated CPU graphics, they've only been making GPUs for like 3 years now.
Gogr_eu@reddit
Kind of funny how I see my old card mentioned first time in like 15 years. I used to play World of Warcraft Warlords of Draenor and Heroes of Newerth on GTS 450, had some freezes in WoW when there were too many people blasting at the same time, but other than that it worked fine. I changed it later because it wasnt powerful enough for new stuff, not because it had some weird bugs or anything like that.
GrayStray@reddit
The old "AMD is for poor people" meme is definitely true. Good luck playing older games with those turds. Their ryzen CPUs are good at least.
futainflation@reddit
that's cope because you can't afford the extra $200 for an nvidia card without starving for a month. nvidia smokes the ass off amd in almost every individual metric, not including software support
Status-Position-8678@reddit
If you're not planning on doing any AI, 3d or any software type bullshit then Radeon is just way better bang for your buck.
futainflation@reddit
i don't want bang for my buck, it's only an extra couple hundred bucks, i'd rather just have something better
ff_Tempest@reddit
I wouldn't buy Nvidia even if I were a millionaire lmao, keep getting scammed kid
IrregularrAF@reddit
NVENC is better by miles as well. I guess you’re a fan of ~~RTX~~ FPS On/[Off] Nvidia is also the obvious choice.
snrup1@reddit
Because they aren't equivalent. NVIDIA makes low, mid and high-end cards. AMD makes low and mid-range cards. They announced a few years ago they would stop competing on high-end.
StJe1637@reddit
because npcs will buy them no matter what
ZZerker@reddit
The better question is why AMD keeps raising the prices of their cards always 50$ or € under the price of Nvidia cards, which makes Nvidia the better offer usually.
C_umputer@reddit
Used to be you could get a slightly better AMD card for almost half the price, making them the best price/performance choice. Now it's so similar, might as well go for Nvidia and get that DLSS/CUDA
DreamsServedSoft@reddit
because no one buys the Radeon equivalents
abhi91@reddit
Cuda is the framework that allows you to build ML models better on these GPUs
yJz3X@reddit
5090 runs out of vram on wan and qwen models. You are better off with 450 USD 3090.
Careless-Lie-3653@reddit
Buying PC hardware over Amazon...
(ok, you can find some cheap ssd or hdd there)
nufeze@reddit
Dude I bought a 5070ti 9800x3d prebuilt from walmart for 1899
Careless-Lie-3653@reddit
And?
nufeze@reddit
Walmart is supposed to be worse than amazon?
Careless-Lie-3653@reddit
Never heard that, only saw posts of good deals from walmart here on reddit.
I_Am_Sharticus_@reddit
Cool, when are they going to make any games that justify upgrading?
nufeze@reddit
Gta 6
I_Am_Sharticus_@reddit
Maybe. Until it's released in its finished form, it's just marketing. If it really is that good then you're completely right.
TheRealBucketCrab@reddit
Do you need it for anything besides AI or mining? Or do you need it for that one crappy new unoptimized shit game that doesn't look one bit better to a previous title?
Adventurous_Tea_2198@reddit
Buy a 5060 16gb instead of a 5070ti
problem solved
TheCynicalAutist@reddit
Even better, get the 4060 Ti 16GB, at least then you'll keep PhysX support.
Careless-Lie-3653@reddit
Dont support this.
The 5060ti is one of the worst GPUs that Nvidia ever created.
I would get a used 3080ti or 4070ti over a 5060ti anytime.
GayloWraylur@reddit
The 9070 XT is 590.-
The 5070 Ti is 671.-
Also Anon is fucking stupid comparing the 9070 to the 5070 Ti
ecco311@reddit
Europe is big. And it differs a lot from country to country.
In Germany for example hardware is fairly cheap. Usually similar to US prices.
Also people often forget that US prices do not include VAT in most cases.
CoachMcMillan@reddit
US prices never include VAT as we use a retarded version of it simply called Sales Tax that's applied to the end customer only
Thanag0r@reddit
How? In my shit ass county 9060 xt is 475 minimum.
Kiekoes@reddit
Amazon in Germany and Netherlands is absolutely terrible price wise. Any local retailer will have normal prices.
Thanag0r@reddit
That was my local price.
I'll just wait for the second coming from Jesus to lower prices here.
Kiekoes@reddit
I know, I was answering your question "How?", how the prices in OPs screenshots are so high. It's because Amazon is super overpriced here, sometimes twice as much as local retailers.
Thanag0r@reddit
my local prices are the same as in op.
Kiekoes@reddit
Then I don't think I understand your comment as I don't see 475 in the OP.
original_name125@reddit
I can't find new 8GB cards for under like 300 euros. I got used GTX 1070 for 75 instead. Still works well enough.
2peg2city@reddit
Intel?
original_name125@reddit
What Intel?
2peg2city@reddit
You can get 8gb intel cards new for 300ish or less
original_name125@reddit
The problem is that I didn't find any Intel card. It was only AMD and Nvidia. But I kinda didn't want to overspend on a GPU for a build in the 600-700 euro range so I got something cheaper.
original_name125@reddit
If GTX 1070 was made by Intel then yes.
Just-Equal-3968@reddit
amaz*n de is notoriously shit... EU cuckolds also pay VAT.
I can buy the 9070xt at 680€ and when the vat scam return is done its around 625€...
Trick-Caramel-6156@reddit
Still cheaper then a Nintendo switch 2 bundle!
ICrushTacos@reddit
They’re like 500 mate
MyUserNameIsSkave@reddit
The 9070XT would be a better comparison. Also entry level 5070Ti can be found around 830€.
zollipun@reddit
with how much weight modern games put on DLSS and AI frames, the difference between an AMD card and an NVIDIA card of similar specs is still pretty noticeable.