Deadly Drug-Resistant Fungus Is Sweeping Through Hospitals
Posted by demwoodz@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 100 comments
Posted by demwoodz@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 100 comments
hsdowubel@reddit
number 15
nobody4456@reddit
Candida aurus has been around for decades. I would think this is due to older, sicker people with more involved care being admitted to hospitals.
thehourglasses@reddit
It probably has more to do with climate change and the disease getting better at surviving higher temps. This is especially scary because temperature is literally our only line of defense against fungi. When they can survive and multiply at our resting internal temp, we are absolutely toast.
Gallbatorix-Shruikan@reddit
Fun fact, that’s the reason for the Last of Us fungus cordyceps jumps to people. Were cooked.
trailquail@reddit
Drug-resistance is the key issue with a lot of these infections, particularly hospital-acquired ones.
CurrentBias@reddit
https://www.bmj.com/content/390/bmj.r1733
nobody4456@reddit
Candida aurus has been around for decades. I would think this is due to older, sicker people with more involved care being admitted to hospitals. What does this article have to do with anything? There are no vaccines for fungal infections. I’m not making an anti vaccine argument. I’m trying to say that fungal infections have more to do with extreme interventions in sick people than anything else.
CurrentBias@reddit
The article has nothing to do with vaccines. Did you read it?
nobody4456@reddit
Apologies. Somehow I hit /uCurrentBias’s link instead of the real article. My point stands, just without the anti- anti vaxxer rhetoric.
CurrentBias@reddit
Neither OP's link or the BMJ article mention vaccines
TwoTerabyte@reddit
When they start hallucinating like that there's no arguing with them, they'll just start hallucinating worse.
bloopbloopsplat@reddit
Are you all bots?
TwoTerabyte@reddit
No, I am not a bot. I do possess critical reading and thinking skills.
QHCprints@reddit
🤖🤖🤖
rainami69@reddit
I must be more tired than I thought read that as 'Canada Anus' LOL
Potential-One-3107@reddit
My brain does that kind of thing when I'm tired also.
rojira1@reddit
“Early detection and rapid, coordinated infection control can still prevent further transmission.” That eliminates the United States then….
donairdaddydick@reddit
You mean the States
Fantastic_Seaweed712@reddit
Divided States
Live-Ad-6510@reddit
If only. Let’s make the division de jure and not just de facto
catspongedogpants@reddit
You mean the Divided States
donairdaddydick@reddit
Almost there, not quite
Separate_Fold5168@reddit
Northern States of Mexico
Mysterious_Cow_2100@reddit
lol savage but true!
daronjay@reddit
At least they can culture it...
AzieltheLiar@reddit
Eh, I remember growing cultures in elementary school with what my poor teacher could afford to pay for supplies. If that's what our epidemic response teams are working with, I AM TERRIFIED.
PerpetuaLeaves@reddit
As a professional microbiologist I’m confused as to why you think cultures are useless? Based on elementary school? We literally culture patient specimens every day and this organism is easy to grow and easy to identify by MALDI-TOF. We report all organisms of interest to the state lab. Epidemiologists generally don’t even directly work with organisms. They track reports from sentinel labs (which is pretty much every hospital and reference lab in the US).
ihaveadogalso2@reddit
I remember using a MALDI-TOF back in college in the lab! That was nearly 20 years ago. I’m surprised it hasn’t been supplanted by more current tech. Maybe it’s simply evolved to be even more useful?
PerpetuaLeaves@reddit
It’s top notch now. Super easy. Massive databases and we can identify bacteria, mycobacteria, aerobic actinomycetes, and fungi. I wouldn’t have predicted it, but damn it’s amazing.
ihaveadogalso2@reddit
That’s awesome! Thanks!
Finie@reddit
In minutes.
Finie@reddit
We're university-educated microbiologists working with professional-grade supplies and advanced instrumentation that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars. This is what we do. It's a far cry from swabbing a doorknob and squiggling it on nutrient agar.
Virginia_Hall@reddit
Hat tip for "squiggling". ;-)
Finie@reddit
It's an industry term. ;-)
AdUsed7094@reddit
She had to pay with her own money???
--Cinna--@reddit
Yep, common issue in the US. Its not just extracurricular supplies either, teachers often have to use their own money to buy stuff like pencils and paper. Things that are necesary to the function of a classroom and should be paid for by the schools
Oh, but there's always magically another million to get the football team new gear and a fresh field
Accomplished-Mix5300@reddit
Why would you be terrified? We have RFK Jrs Brain worm to protect us
TheWhiteRabbitY2K@reddit
I work in emergency rooms.
They're disgusting. When I took my wife, I wiped down everything in the room we touched myself. For people who scream infection control, they sure don't like to hire cleaning staff. They expect the nurses and techs to do it, but also expect us to do 100 other things in X amount of time.
feline_riches@reddit
Im relieved i knew what this would be before opening it. Id hate for there to be another one.
A couple of years ago this popped up in my area. 99% percent of nurses had no idea what I was talking about. That means no one was looking for it. Or treating it. I was made aware by a supervisor who pulled me aside to show me the bulletin published by our county health department. He knew how seriously I took my health and my patients. I got made fun of for wearing N95s on symptomatic patients before Covid. When I busted out the bleach bc my service did not provide me cleaning agents known to be effective against covid, I got called a germaphobe. So he knew I would care.
I’ll never forget the verbiage they used, that it kills more than 1 in 4 people.
I only ever saw one facility that had a notice posted outside above a box of N95s. I was already wearing one on every call but I took great pleasure in forcing my partner to wear one. Yeah I work with some stupid and selfish people.
911 paramedic
titaniumlid@reddit
I live down the street from a paramedic who has zero understanding of germs, apparently.
Once they brought their obviously symptomatic child over to give our child a gift of some kind and they said as they were leaving our house, "come on let's get going we only wanted to stop in for a few minutes so we wouldn't get [my kids name] too sick."
Like they obviously knew their kid was sick and still chose to come over to our house and come inside.
I have zero faith in 75% of anyone working in any field being competent enough to do their job professionally. Including the medical field.
The sheer number of nurses with masks below their nose when I stop by my doctors office is just disheartening.
elbowpastadust@reddit
I had a mystery illness last year. Lost all faith in doctors. If a doctor doesn’t know what you have…even after running several tests/scans…they just think you’re making it up and dismiss you.
feline_riches@reddit
This doesn’t even surprise me. If they refused Covid test, we definitely work together.
Nurses might be the worst. They never wear gloves and eat while working on a shared computer (with other nurses who don’t wear gloves)
titaniumlid@reddit
Jesus Christ.
feline_riches@reddit
That’s why they get paid the big bucks or 3x-5x what I get paid 😂😂😂
microwaved-tatertots@reddit
Dang, my mate had it in 2013. He was 24 at the time. He thought super gluing a puncture wound shut to keep the lake water out was a good idea. Another hospital in the area ended up figuring it out after culturing it.
jerzeett@reddit
Omg…. How long was he hospitalized
SKI326@reddit
Gosh you don’t suppose letting people get multiple infections from a immune suppressant virus could have caused this, do you? /s
Fantastic-Ice-1402@reddit
Our NIH is on top of this…
cyanescens_burn@reddit
Seeing this meme a few weeks back got me to check out the new version of the game on iPhone (played the Apple IIe one way back). They did a good job with it.
IDDMaximus@reddit
A historical reenactment sub for oregontrailpreppers is something I didn't know I wanted. With sister sub oregontrailedc.
UND_mtnman@reddit
Oregontrailedc is just one post and it is: 1 wagon, 1 oxen, 10000 rounds of ammo
QHCprints@reddit
But where will I put my clock? 🕰️
Separate_Fold5168@reddit
BaroqueGorgon@reddit
Me stealing this meme
No-Hunter9605@reddit
Omg.. im dying.
RefractedCell@reddit
Possibly literally.
derek4reals1@reddit
cardiganqween@reddit
lol
Fromacorner@reddit
It’s been a few years but radiolab did a great piece on this.
demwoodz@reddit (OP)
https://radiolab.org/podcast/fungus-amungus
Foe117@reddit
Don't worry RFK will come up with an At-Home Remedy.
Otterpup67@reddit
Gosh…so glad the current regime has laser-focused on preventing pandemics or I’d be really worried /s
Intelligent_Will1431@reddit
Special air conditioning cleanser units can kill everything airborne and improve overall cleanliness and ease of facility sterilization.
Fun_Possibility_4566@reddit
real question: does hocl kill this?
demwoodz@reddit (OP)
https://hoclhub.com/does-hypochlorous-acid-kill-mold/
BigDowntownRobot@reddit
Anecdotally, a lot of doctors has very strong opposition to acknowledging Candidis could be a real condition in many of the places it is now know to infect.
It was only 10 years ago my dad had to resort to seeing an alternative medicine doctor just to get the fundicides to treat it. After years of chronic infection and asking for them from doctors at extremely prominent hospitals.
They wouldnt even runs panel for it.
So from my experience this sounds like doctors finally admitting a condition exists and acting like it's exploding in quantity.
hera-fawcett@reddit
v strange fr--- i live in the histo belt (histoplasmosis) and while histo is hella common (like over 75% of ppl have some form of infection due to it) its still one of those things drs are a bit terrified of due to how bad shit can get if it spreads to certain organs. since its so common to have histo, they try to check and make sure symptoms arent due to migrated histo. bc if it travels to the eyes it can cause occular histoplasmosis (ohs)-- which cause new blood vessel growth (chronic neurovascularization) in the retina. its the leading cause of blindness in ppl ages 20-40 (guess how ik 🤡).
fungus is one of those things that drs dont want to see bc of how bad it can get, how lowkey it is, and how it can take yrs until ppl realize they have/had it and its bad. and, at least where i am, they do a lot to rule out that fungus was/is the cause vs other normal shit.
but, again, i live in the histo-belt so we're v fungus aware. ymmv.
ohmnivalent@reddit
Digital__Native@reddit
fuck, I did not know this gif existed of Joel doing the Jeremiah Johnson scene.
ytman@reddit
good thing I won't be going to a hospital anytime in my life.
US hospitals are too expensive
ekkso@reddit
Then_Ad7822@reddit
We have several patients with nosocomial (hospital acquired) infections right now. Actually just got exposed to some MRSA lmao. But yes, please wash your hands and practice hygiene folks.
PsudoGravity@reddit
Much effect on you? I'm unfamiliar with mrsa characteristics.
Separate_Fold5168@reddit
MRSA is just a very resistant bacteria typically found on skin and can colonize nostrils.
If it sets into infection in a wound, or gets into your lungs or blood you will likely need IV antibiotics ASAP but not always. Some people with skin infections can be treated orally at home.
Like all things, it's a matter of severity and your own overall health / immune function. People most at risk are those with immunodeficiency and/or catheters or tubes that give the bacteria a pathway through your skin into the body. Cancer patients that come to the hospital with a fever (febrile neutropenia) immediately go on treatment for MRSA empiricaly until it is ruled out, since early treatment of a true blood infection is the best chance for a good result.
The main "symptom" the lay person would notice on their skin is that the cellulitis or wound often becomes "purulent" or puss-filled.
Blood steam infections or pneumonia would probably not seem any different to you than other bacterial causes.
melympia@reddit
The problem with MRSA is not the SA part (Staphylococcus aureus), but the MR part (methicillin-resistant).
Separate_Fold5168@reddit
I get what you're saying, although SA itself can f you up too.
MSSA blood stream infections can be very deadly. (Methicillin susceptible). We have more drug choices to use on them, but still very dangerous and not a sure recovery.
The combination of staph's inherent virulence and then resistance to many antibiotic options is what makes it very risky.
melympia@reddit
If untreated for too long, yes. But MRSA is a whole other beast and very hard to eradicate. Many people never manage to get rid of it completely.
TheFudge@reddit
I picked up MRSA from a hospital stay. That shits FUCKED UP.
Then_Ad7822@reddit
It is, doesn’t help I got a cut on my hand right before, but I’ve washed my hands repeatedly and so far no symptoms.
PerpetuaLeaves@reddit
Is MRSA unusual where you work?
EnvironmentalLuck515@reddit
10k cases in the last 20 years is 1000 cases a year. There are 340.1 million people in the USaa, roughly. That means this is a statistically insignificant phenomenon. Worry about real problems. Im a nurse. This is just not worth anyone's generalized anxiety.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
After so many proved their willingness to deliberstely infect at risk people during Covid I dont think this is seen as the flex it used to be.
GeorgeRRZimmerman@reddit
If it's a commentator on a right-wing topic, I treat "I'm a nurse but.." the exact same way I treat "I'm not racist but..."
Same shit. They're around people affected with whatever issue they're downplaying all the time and they don't see the crisis. It's just normal for things to be fucked.
Sushi_Explosions@reddit
It's really not, and I am not sure how they came up with that number. There are entire nursing homes whose patients are automatically considered to be carriers because their carrier/infection rate is so high. It is very hard to get rid of.
Desperate_Coach7494@reddit
It’s actually 500 cases a year but your point stands
EnvironmentalLuck515@reddit
The math's. They hurts. *
PerpetuaLeaves@reddit
This story is brought up over and over. I’ve worked in clinical microbiology for 20 years and we’ve not yet seen it. And we’re looking. We have top of the line tech to identify it.
ChewieBearStare@reddit
It was a bummer when my FIL tested positive for it. They made us wear gowns and masks and gloves while visiting, which near the end when he was on hospice care was uncomfortable. Better than dying of a fungal infection at some point, but still annoying when you're sitting vigil over someone who's dying.
PerpetuaLeaves@reddit
I’m sorry. That is awful. We’re screening our respiratory cultures for it, along with other incidental yeast recovery in other culture types, so I hope we can nip it in the bud at our hospital when it comes. People deserve the full company of their loved ones when they pass.
ChewieBearStare@reddit
He was on a vent following a severe stroke. I guess the nursing facility is doing it routinely now. He was also colonized with MRSA for years and had osteomyelitis of the spine from MRSA somehow getting into a crack in his finger skin and lodging itself in three thoracic vertebrae. They had to scrape out the infected bone and replace it with cement. Spent a month in the neuro ICU and got sent home with a picc line for about two months because the infection was getting close to his heart and lungs. Poor guy attracted germs like a magnet!
got-to-find-out@reddit
I checked two other articles, other than the highly detailed people.com. Europe had over 4000 reported cases from 2013 to 2023. The actual number is likely higher. None of the articles mentioned the number of deaths. My guess is that it is low. However, some antibiotics used at that time might not work any longer and the “The Last of Us” plays out.
-ghostfang-@reddit
If it’s a fungus antibiotics were never going to help much.
Ellawyn_@reddit
Flair says NA but reading the article looks like the cases are in Europe right now and they are focused on making sure it doesn't go global. Obviously everyone should be wary of hygiene but I wanted to note it for those at a higher risk
Finie@reddit
It's spreading like wildfire in the US too. It's already global.
AntiSonOfBitchamajig@reddit
Yeah... I changed it.
Ilove-moistholes@reddit
Great, if there was ever a time to have a “the last of us” event in real life, this is it
AntiSonOfBitchamajig@reddit
No_Pirate_1409@reddit
Content_Geologist420@reddit
its_endogenous@reddit
Let’s goooooo I can finally live out the last of us