you’ve been proven wrong about 17 times in this thread alone, how much are you getting paid to spread lies like this? surely you aren’t doing it for free because that would be… hilarious 😂
? Yeah that's surprisingly common? Blaire White is a whole ass Trans grifter. And any many involved with gamer gate would get all those references lmao
If we're not counting memes, we shouldn't count that one either. We're free to speculate, but again, there's nothing pointing to him being a lefty as the right desperately wants.
Have you read the article? Slav squats and tracksuits are an eastern European stereotype that has been popular forever. It has no special connection with groypers and it's ridiculous to even suggest that.
Bella ciao is an anti-fascist song and has remained one. The playlist has double digits follows.
The site is a Leftist rag with zero evidence provided, aside from weird deflections.
bro he wore the exact same tracksuit in the exact same pose as a pepe the frog meme around the same time groypers began using that as a dogwhistle. along with the smug pepe smile, he is definitely part of that group.
but of course you’ll deny it bc you don’t want to admit right wingers are capable of misusing firearms and hurting “innocent” ppl.
I don’t get it. This joke implies that we’re crying that the left is making jokes the same way we joked about George Floyd. If “your guy” is a violent felon compared to our guy who said a few mean words, that isn’t the flex you think it is
is this supposed to be a referrence to the idea that floyd didn't die of fentanyl overdose but people were supposedly using it to excuse police brutality?
Police are indeed brutal, and that doesn't exclude the fact that he died of overdose. It was literally written in his autopsy.
The liberal will bend any situation into one where they are the victim. They have mastered the art of mental gymnastics. You cannot beat them in any form of debate because you will always be of a lower moral standing then they are, no matter what topic or side you are on.
i mean thats just the general NPC response, ive also seen videos of lefties prasing Trumps policies until they hear its Trump then they do a 180 and say its the worst thing ever. People who dont have a thought of their own in their head.
cant really remember off the top of my head, im sure you can just go to youtube and type something like "telling people trumps policies without saying they are trumps policies" or something
He does know, but you don't. The right winger cried victim "we are now using you're tactics against you!". Right wingers invented cancel culture. In fact, for centuries disagreeing with christian nationalism/theocracy got you killed by the church/the state. But they're acting as if cancel culture is a new thing invented by the left.
Making your points by hamfisting them into other people’s statements is a weak minded strategy.
“So you agree”
No, I don’t agree since “cancelling” people was only complained about when it was taken too far. I think celebrating murder, saying blatantly and directly racist remarks and other non-comedic bigotry is all worthy of informing someone’s workplace as they represent them online.
Charlie Kirk celebrated the attack on Pelosi's home. The audience loved it. The right does it too dingus. If argue even moreso. Never forget either, conservatives commit the vast majority of mass shootings 🙂
People really need to work on their online anonymity. I don’t know why you’d want your real name and face attached to anything online outside of maybe Facebook to keep up with friends and family.
While I understand the so called hypocrisy, I think that some people on the right are getting tired of trying to hold themselves to a high moral standard while the left runs circles around those moral standards. For example, the left will call out the right for not being Christian because they don't support immigration or whatever else they are trying to get the right to change their mind about, while simultaneously not being religious to begin with and just want to use the right's morals against them.
So the question is how does the right "fight" the left when the left has no rules? Ignoring the possible rumors of who actually killed Kirk, and focus on the "left" being his killers because of his opinions, it puts into perspective that the left is willing to ignore whatever morals and ethics to win, and the right just has to succumb and accept it because they should not stoop down and get rid of their morals. So the fight now becomes fight fire with fire because otherwise the fight will be a losing one.
Lmao. The right had no ethos other than "win" for decades now, shifting positions daily and having no need for consistency in their beliefs. The only thing that matters is the dear leader and liberals being butthurt.
The right in the present is not necessarily the neocon right prior to 2016. After 2016 many people started to move away from the left which became entangled with social justice politics. I don't see eye to eye with the neocons and considered myself left wing until the social justice warriors started to take the fun out of things in 2012. This present day Republican Party is a mesh of different people who don't want to have anything to do with the lefties.
That's literally how it's going. They have no argument other than to shidd and fard that the conservatives are being "hypocrites" by using the left's tools against them.
They set the rules of engagement, the right has just started following them.
I don't understand how people think they can keep attacking/prodding one side and not get retaliated back at. Expecting any side to just roll over and die is stupid.
That being said conservatives have had their version of cancel culture its just theirs is when people are celebrating or advocating for the death of people. Like for example this happened before during the trump assassination attempt where people saying "dont miss next time" and shit like that got doxxed. Probably other scenarios too but to my knowledge it is usually advocacy of violence. The left used it when people said racial slurs or something online even if it was 10 years ago. Maybe also on Jan 6th.
Accelerationism. If you believe in a historical dialectic that will just eventually happen, and "coincidentally" according to your ideology it's your side that wins in the end, then you have an incentive to make things worse on purpose so you can make history progress past the threshold and get to the end sooner.
the brain surgeons..... that go to the internet and call for child rape and child murder.... and perform brain surgery on people's fucking brains....... and they totally exist 100000% no rage bait
I think the difference is the insane amount of people celebrating Kirk’s death which has driven the tension through the roof. Everywhere I go on any social media you can find people celebrating that he’s dead. If everyone had just come out and agreed that what happened was horrible and that was it then it wouldn’t have gotten to this extreme.
I think it is retarded regardless of which side is doing it. Just because one side does it doesnt excuse the other side doing the same. Anyone that gets upset at the other side doing this is retarded if they will excuse their side for doing the same shit.
After spending the last decade politely asking that people's online political opinions from outside their workplaces shouldn't be held against them at their jobs the right has finally started responding
They didn't want things to be this way, the left dragged us down to their level, welcome to the new normal
What tactics? The left have been telling us for years that cancel culture doesn't even exist. Somehow though, they do seem to be very upset about this non-existent thing.
If only these people on BlueSky calling for more murder had only said a slur when they were 4 years old then it would have been ok to fire (and shoot) them according to Reddit
Getting people fired might be a bad idea, especially if the tables turn. I know this has been done by Lefists before. It was wrong for them then and it's wrong now. I don't condone mocking someone's death though.
People like to pretend the left is the only ones who did it, but in reality it was just because the right was the one who complained about it the most.
The left loves to cancel their own way more than aiming it at the right. They eat themselves, that’s why they’re being destroyed by the right. The right is better at banding together. Way better.
He didn't say that though, he said cancel culture. That term came into being ca 2015 as "cancelling" and unambiguously was advocated by the left, who euphemised it as "call out culture" or "consequence culture", and denigrated by the right.
The people who invented using mass social media pressure and list making to get people ostracized, and fired were on the left.
Added to that, that type of cancel culture usually involved people saying things deemed politically incorrect, not active celebration of the assassination of a non violent person, which probably would've resulted in ostracization and employment fallout prior to the invention of cancel culture
People used to get outright banished back in the day, like your village would just kick you out and be like alright start walking any direction but here.
I don't get why people think losing a job is such a big deal. Jobs are everywhere. I am regularly turning away recruiters from my linkedin.
The only reason the "parental advisory explicit content" label exists is because of right wingers & religious nutjobs taking musicians to trials in the 80s
& before that it was McCarthyism.
You have permission to keep playing in the sandpit whilst the adults are talking though
Incorrect. Roger Williams got kicked out of Plymouth Colony in 1620 by the Puritans (AKA the most right-wing conservatives to ever do it) bc he preached religious freedom, separation of church and state, and being tolerant of Native Americans.
Right-wingers created the game. They're just really not very good at playing it. 🤷
I searched what puritans originated from since I don't have much info about christianity. They're calvinists and protestants, especially calvinism is a big clue since it invented to integrate christianism to capitalism. Because catholic christianism was a problem for this type of production model.
If american modern puritans don't follow a deeply changed version of calvinism like john brown does, they're most definitely right wing.
Correct. They were a Christian theocratic cult that left England because they were fed up with other people around them having freedom of religion and wanted to build a completely homogeneous society. They also were very anti-Native American and opposed sexual liberation or female independence of any sort.
Damnatio ad memoriae or something like that. If the Romans hated you, they would damn your memory and you were erased from history. Obviously it failed since we know the names of a bunch of people they did it to. I wouldn't call the Roman Republic right wing though. Ostracism has been a thing for forever with humanity. The cavemen didn't like you, they kicked you out of the tribe.
This is one of those few times where we need to point out that everyone does this, has been doing this, and will continue to do this for the foreseeable future. Both sides. For generations.
Its sold as “go woke go broke” or “the first amendment doesnt protect you from the societal consequences”. It used to just be straight up “we ran them out of town” or “we dont associate with those types”. And as we move forward we will make more bumper sticker saying to the same effect.
Whats more surprising is people thinking modern political parties have morals and values. Both parties have one value: consolidate power. Everything else is a move to get more of it.
Throwing my hat in this- a lot of people's opinions can change rapidly, especially within days as grief is a major contributing factor in this case. Unlike most political deaths, Charlie Kirk was more or less a popular figure, especially to younger audiences. His debate platform and the fact that he wasn't actually someone with a position of power painted him as "One of Us" types. The dude started from nothing and became someone who could just call up people in seats of power. And these people in power likely liked him. A lot of viewers probably liked him. So this is probably more personal than just another political figure dying or a CEO dying. At the end of the day, he was an influencer, and this is playing a huge part in it.
So it makes sense that within a few days, it went from "Find and Kill," to "We should live by his ideals."" The man encouraged people to talk, even if he had a clear side, he still wished for peeps to talk rather than further divide.
I know for me I was more disgusted and angry at the reaction, but now I don't feel that reaction is right.
But who knows. I think Ronald Mcdonald is the true culprit
So it makes sense that within a few days, it went from "Find and Kill," to "We should live by his ideals."
I wish they would, but to me it seems like they have yet to engage with, or even acknowledge the core of the 'left' perspective on the matter. They're just now facing a reality we've known for years, which is: it doesn't matter if you're a good, reasonable person, some crazy person with a gun might have it out for you. It's more likely if you're a prominent person, but you can be a literal child too. Unless you're powerful enough to never have to leave environments heavily controlled for safety, you face the same risk as all of us.
I don't actually believe the right 'doesn't care' about stuff like school shootings, and I'm not entirely anti-gun myself, but Charlie's solution to the problem he faced failed him in the most dramatic way it could have. I wonder if part of what's freaking them out so much is not really knowing what to actually do.
I'll speak as a more center right person on that last paragraph, actually. I care about school shootings. I don't forget them. There's hundreds and hundreds of examples of disgruntled adults and children who never got helped commit mass murder. It's evil, and admittedly, it does make me think harder on the 2nd amendment.
The flip side is that I don't trust the government. No matter who is running, I dont trust em. While a bunch of citizens with Pistols and AR's might not do much against a tyrannical government, I believe at least having a chance is better than none at all.
It's not just that, but if we listen to leftist talking points as of late- they want an open border alongside the 2nd amendment being revoked. Not just people cross those borders. Drugs and guns are also crossing. Stripping your citizens and letting undocumented through will not solve this problem and may even amplify it as gangs have less to fear from the average Joe.
It's a tough question with a tough answer, as just stripping guns away doesn't inherently fix the violent issues we face. Guns go away, and other kinds of crimes will inevitably rise up.
You're claiming something without backing it up. It's an international manipulation to go "studies have shown" without showing said studies. For all I know, you could be pulling something out of your ass.
And I never said they didn't have harmful policies. You're trying to get a one up on me when I never made a claim on that. It's, again, intellectually dishonest of you to do this.
You can't come in guns blazing and expect me to accept a random online person's words as fact. Especially on this site where leftist propaganda is spread like wildfire. You can express your opinion, but you're not doing that, you're attempting to argue and accuse when all I'm doing is expressing how I view the 2nd amendment and the consequences of those actions
Nothing in this article brings up how difficult it is to get a concealed carry or open carry license, or how that license can be revoked in case of using it for self defense. Shouldn't that factor into this study or is this just a propaganda piece?
Right. So next time I see a White Supremacist link a study about how Black people are culturally violent, instead of questioning the variables found in their "Study" I'll remember your words and take it as holy scripture and start believing blacks are the problem.
There are literally 2 variables. Not every. If I were to nit pick, this is how I would do it. If there is a study, there needs to be these variables included. What were the people carrying thinking? Were they primarily protecting themselves? Were they trying to back out of the situation or engage in it? Were they more worried about government backlash or not? These things need to be accounted for.
Your source brings up how people engaged. That's it. Not everyone out there is looking to engage, even with a gun. The primary goal is to ward off danger, not engage with it. If your lack luster study isn't accounting for variables, then it's not a study, it's an observation.
You claimed that citizens having guns doesn't do anything. In 7 situations based on the FBI study they eliminated the threat. Granted it's a small number out of the 160 but it's far from not doing shit.
Further if you look 17 incidents ended when the shooter killed themselves after knowing police were on scene. There's a good chance if anyone armed would have confronted them it would have ended the same way. 45 incidents involved the shooter engaging in gunfire with police. If there had been an armed citizen present before police arrival during one of these 45 it could have potentially ended there with the armed citizen.
In the vast majority of cases (127 out of 160), when active shooters are confronted they either flee or kill themselves. This is important and could help others survive an incident like this. Fighting back saves lives.
The time period for this study is also 10 to 20 years old so things could easily be different today.
A well armed populace didn't help you guys at all when Trump started black bagging people off to a El Salvador gulag or sending the national guard to be a military police in cities he doesn't like. Or mass pardoning violent insurrections.
As a foreigner, it looks like the 2a being a backstop against tyranny was just a myth.
Yeah. It's a myth because you think people are literally black bagging citizens and disappearing them. Which isn't happening. Which is why you think it's weird the guns aren't protecting us. They don't need to come out yet. And those of us with brains know this unlike some people recently which have lost all sense of reasoning and have decided the only way to move forward is to take cheap shots from rooftops.
it does make me think harder on the 2nd amendment.
The flip side is that I don't trust the government. No matter who is running, I dont trust em. While a bunch of citizens with Pistols and AR's might not do much against a tyrannical government, I believe at least having a chance is better than none at all.
Further to this, I would say to those prove to me if we agree to give up the 2nd every time some kid wants to be edgy that the government won't actually stage false flags to get what they want.
While a bunch of citizens with Pistols and AR's might not do much against a tyrannical government, I believe at least having a chance is better than none at all.
I'm not saying 'trust the government' by any means here, but what do you think this actually looks like in practice? When attempts were made on Trump's life, I didn't see anyone on the right rejoicing about how 'free' we are that one lone citizen could get so far in the name of fighting (what he perceived was) a tyrannical government, but wasn't this a perfect demonstration of what the 2A is ostensibly for?
I mean, why not? If you're just saying you're not grieving, no harm no foul. But if you came to me and told me you hope more people die, that you hope the same happens to his children, or any form of celebration, I don't see why can't people go "I don't want to hire this person"
Would you hire someone with Nazi beliefs? Or a tattoo that read kill all the blacks? Some beliefs should be shunned. Some of Kirks beliefs should be shunned. But when they're not calling for violence or enacting violence on anyone, I don't see why these beliefs should be justified in killing another.
So admittedly, I wasn't old enough for 9/11. I was around 3. However, the stories and articles I did read about Post 9/11 were... interesting. There was a lot of justification for doing things we otherwise wouldn't have done. TSA and Iraq are the main culprits surrounding that discussion.
It's unfortunate, but I don't have all the know-how of post 9/11, just my experiences growing up. That being I remember my great grandma, Hardcore Conservative, always warning me to be wary of Muslims due to 9/11. I remember a lot of racism looking back, but as a kid I didn't understand it at all, so I just befriended anyone I could.
This is all something I should educate myself more on though. I' sorry if I didn't give an answer you were looking for
I just wish Russia didn't have nukes so we'd have a good third world country to invade and get it out of our system. Staying cooped up all day is driving us nuts.
The difference being one side doesn't openly advocate and propagate for the death of their political opponents. They don't get to cry 'both sides' when one starts doing what the other has been getting away with for decades.
I'm not a fan of it. Nobody changes their mind after being fired, and all it does is going to make them more radicalized. So we end up with a bunch of broke people with extreme opinions.
Im pretty leftist and yeah its just evil. Kirk was a piece of shit and I'm not sad in the slightest that he died, and had it been of natural causes I'd say the world would have been a better place. But murder aint it.
"being politically active in a time where issues are artificially manipulated to make both sides hate each other is morally right" Being ragebaited by the elites to attack each is so funny as shit.
“Noooo you’re supposed to adhere to strict moral superiority by never doing anything against the people who want you dead, don’t stoop to their level by doing literally anything at all!!! If they pull a gun on you you’re supposed to defeat them with facts and logic like a heckin based and redpilled cuck!”
Lol he wasn't winning at shit. Going to the debate, saying a bunch of word salad then including something about God isn't winning a debate. This guy got schooled in any debate that wasn't against cherry picked bottom of the barrel students.
I don’t think there was any actual point about winning here? It’s just a dumb metaphor.
Kirk was sparking up conversations and getting opinions from both sides heard. Whether he was “winning” those debates or not is irrelevant. I don’t think it was ever his mission to win the most debates but to simply have them happen in the first place, specially where he thought they were needed most.
If that's true why doesn't he upload his losses and name all his videos things like "Destroys liberal logic"? Let's not pretend he was simply hearing out both sides.
Idk, I’ve never been an avid watcher of his content. I’ll agree that his titles are garbage and his content is often focused on his “wins” because I guess that’s what makes him the most money on YouTube. But I’d bet he does have losing debates out there. I watched a gun debate he had where he very clearly didn’t “win” but more so reached common ground with someone with opposite views.
How does that detract that he was a consistent source of political debate in places that arguably really needed it? How was he not hearing people out?
You don't understand why showing only the wins against dumbest possible opponents and labelling it as "liberal logic" is misinformation? Let's face it people are dumb AF and will build their stereotypes of an entire group based on these types of clips. If I uploaded videos titled "destroys conservative logic" and only have videos of inbred rednecks that's not exactly an informative or accurate picture of conservatives is it? At the end of the day this is just dehumanizing the other side. It's no different than when white people called blacks subhuman. Also if you haven't noticed already this is also dangerous anti education rhetoric. Why do you think he was debating college students anyway and not, ya know, politicians, lawyers, economists, or statisticians? Look at all the shady comments about universities "radicalizing the youth", give me a break. Or are we going to pretend that all the Right Wing politicians didn't graduate from college?
I mean I overall agree with you. I think only showing the worst of the other side isn't a good tactic if your point is to educate and accurately portray your ideological opposition. I think what we can get out of this (and we all know both the left and the right do it) is that there's a lot of dumb people with very strong opinions out there, and that, in the end, they're the ones digging their movement's grave, proving the stereotypes. The left should condemn those on their side who act like lunatics, and the same goes to the right.
That being said, is this what Kirk did? Going through his channel there's a lot of full debates he's had in different campuses. Sure, there's other shorter format videos with dumb titles, but that's just him playing the Youtube game as everyone does. Point is that if you're interested in not being misinformed, you can choose to watch the full videos and see the complete context. It's all there.
Why do you think he was debating college students anyway and not, ya know, politicians, lawyers, economists, or statisticians?
Pretty sure he did? Though maybe those videos are not in his channel for copyright purposes or whatever. That's just how it is sometimes with Youtube.
But other than that, do you not think it's very important to have those conversations in college, a place where you go learn about the world? I think it is.
Look at all the shady comments about universities "radicalizing the youth", give me a break.
I mean, do you not think most colleges aren't left-leaning at the very least? Right wing ideas have been demonized for more than a decade at this point. Do you not think people are being taught to think left instead of thinking for themselves?
I've watched a few Kirk videos and got the gist of what he's about. I'm not saying that he never has civil debates or never has any rational points. However, he also posits a lot of blatantly racist points (can't trust black pilots) which are completely illogical and I cannot see how he would adhere to it if not to drive division and sow misinformation. Also, his credibility goes out the window when he brings up God as an argument, it has no place in debates. People with higher education lean left in general, that's simply correlation. Sure there could be a women's rights course or whatever but those are for people majoring in those types of topics and majority of college students would never take those courses. I also find it odd that no one seems to mind that their conservative representatives went to college and are sending their children to college.
However, he also posits a lot of blatantly racist points (can't trust black pilots)
Why is the black pilots thing racist? Would you put your life in the hands of someone who was hired not entirely based on merit, but partly due to the color of their skin? I wouldn't. I don't think DEI hires should handle the lives of people. Same applies to medicine.
Also, his credibility goes out the window when he brings up God as an argument, it has no place in debates.
Yeah I agree. I'm almost entirely in opposition of his pro-life arguments. Most of the time he defaults to God this or that and that's when he loses me.
People with higher education lean left in general, that's simply correlation.
Couldn't you make the argument that "educated" people lean left because the institutions they get their education from are left-leaning themselves?
I also find it odd that no one seems to mind that their conservative representatives went to college and are sending their children to college.
Bit confused here. Did you mean to say that "no one seems to mind that their conservative representatives didn't go to college but are sending their children to college"? Otherwise I'm a bit lost.
I understand DEI discourse around typical jobs but unless unqualified pilots are allowed to still receive their licenses without passing federally standardized tests or clocking the required hours I don't see how they can be unqualified. Unless they can prove black pilots are less capable somehow it's nothing but racism. I also find DEI complaints odd, no one is legally forcing companies to adhere to DEI. Those who don't believe in it and do it anyway likely do so to increase support and revenue from their customers. To then Turn around and throw hires under the bus seems... Hypocritical.
You can certainly theorize that higher education's left lean causes left leaning bias but that's an effect you will have to prove. I can also theorize that right wing talking points are illogical, therefore education sways people from them.
I'm calling out the fact that conservatives wage war against universities and claim that they radicalize kids, despite the fact that all of the conservatives in leadership positions, and literally anyone in positions of power (politicians, CEOs) all went to college and send their own children to college while calling for their defunding.
The discourse is so far in the dirt with these influencers that it has killed any notion of thorough academic debate for this generation and the next ; doesn't really matter whether you lean left or right, thats the problem with Kirk et al. Nobody wins because its not a debate but a bunch of greased up retards wrestling with each other, the only winners are people who avoid watching that crap.
Buddy the tweets are there for everyone to see. It's pretty obvious which side actively calls for violence but ok. Also saying that karma comes around has nothing to do with wanting people dead but then again nuance isn't your strong point.
Right. Because it's not a real thing unless you hold power over the person being cancelled. A segment of the public has no real power over someone at the end of the day. A president or department of Justice head on the other hand...
I think the truth is due to him being Scottish usually the euros get a n word pass a little because they don’t have the same weight and connotation as Americans do
It's because he was never cancelled maybe cancelling isn't really a thing in a society where having enough money doesn't really exclude you from anything.
Paula Dean got cancelled for wanting to throw an old Southern plantation style banquet with a bunch of black waiters dressed in tuxedos and white gloves serving food. This was not decades ago, it was when she got cancelled
It does have to do with the troubles. He attributed his violent impulse from having grown up during the troubles. Are we pretending that childhood circumstances and someone's social culture have no impact on the rest of their life?
You should have gotten the hint these retarded redditors won't get the hint when they thought arguing about who killed kirk instead of why was the important part.
And then as always, when they thought no one was arguing with them, they thought they were right.
I think it’s a bit disingenuous to frame it like that when the literal president of the country (part of the right wing party) tweeted about how the radical left were responsible - before they’d even caught the killer, let alone discerned his motives which they still haven’t.
I wonder why he is quick to blame a specific demographic like he had first-hand experience of assassination attempts which is then proceeded by gloating and attempts to cause MORE attempts.
The guy who tried to assassinate trump was a republican though - and I’ll bet you can’t point out a single democrat politician who did anything other than condemn that assassination attempt on trump.
The important thing in their world is that they yelled something, that's all that matters.
Also, they demand that the government, or really anyone besides themselves should help minorities and poor people, and that's just as good as helping them yourself.
I don't care about Kirk at all honestly, I dont consume political commentary for entertainment, but I do enjoy watching people fight about him
"because he can't say he isn't." You dumb, bro? People were calling that Nazi a Nazi for most of his adult life. You know, because of all the Nazi shit he promoted? Like how he was a huge proponent of using political violence to silence your enemies? Or his anti-immigrant rhetoric? Like, just all straight out of the Nazi playbook. I assure you, him being called a Nazi has nothing to do with him not being able to give bullshit non sequitor responses to try to deflect from the people calling him a Nazi.
conservatives by definition don’t change much. liberals are the ones changing the status quo, getting warned that it’s a worse normal, then screeching when it starts to affect them
They're not even Conservatives, they're just assholes.
The US was founded on the idea of small government and state rights. That idea has been constantly eroding ever since Lincoln. You'd imagine an American Conservative would want to scale back Federal powers and stop the US from getting so involved overseas.
Not whatever cheap wanna-be Fascism Trump is LARPing as.
No, that’s heavy cope. Unless you’re trying to say there’s a magical combination of words that force people to engage in violence you’re handwaving away personal accountability. Speech is speech, what happens after somebody hears speech is on them
no one deserves to die for their speech. you have to acknowledge that you don’t get to antagonize ppl over and over and expect nothing to happen to you
Leftists simultaneously supporting and denying the First Amendment to avoid accountability for their own actions, 2025, (colorized).
why are all leftists literally just the ideological embodiment of a meek deceptive woman? Thank God they’re also incapable of breeding in any significant number, otherwise I’d actually be worried about criminally insane retards this like.
Leftist tries to have a discussion without lying challenge (DIFFICULTY: IMPOSSIBLE)
lmao don’t worry bud, they’re getting a padded room ready for you. You’ll be safe there. The right winger with a trans girlfriend and antifa slogans engraved on his bullets won’t be able to hurt you there. He’s not real, and you’ll be okay. Just take your meds until they call you in.
and later on Governor Cox confirmed to ABC's The Week that his partner had contacted them and was cooperating. He specifically mentioned that they were transitioning from male to female.
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He isn't cooperating himself, but his friends and family are talking.
I don't trust a vampire such as yourself to faithfully engage with Holy Water-esque substances such as evidence and logic though, so don't @ me honey.
Being worried that you might not be able to afford all those straws you’re grasping at has nothing to do with faithfully engaging with the topic.
Ignoring requested evidence by moving the goalposts - deflecting to improbable conclusions in the face of a torrent of evidence to the contrary - that is an example of bad faith engagement.
As for my insulting word choices… Do you know where you are?
why are you trying to discuss nazis and their girlfriends when the topic is a Leftist man with a trans girlfriend and Leftist/antifa slogans engraved on bullets that he shot another man with in cold blood because he didn’t like sounds coming out of his mouth.
A Leftist man that was likely spurred to action after listening to his fellow party members call other people with opinions they don’t like ‘fascist’ and ‘nazi’ while they also slyly suggest that because nazis are bad, nazis must die.
Sure yeah, nazis are bad, and yeah of course, some nazis are fake nazis with brown girlfriends, sure, we all know this, but that has nothing to do with anything regarding this Leftist man and his trans girlfriend.
In fact, there’s probably like 10,000 actual nazis even in america. Are you looking for a new boyfriend or something and having a hard time finding one? you seemed very concerned with the nazis girlfriend choices is all.
Do I need to go line by line through that article and hold your hand to point out exactly where and how it’s using innuendo and lies by omission to associate otherwise common knowledge, popular subjects, and widespread memes as “popular with the far right” all so they can bolster their claim that the shooter is a “right winger”?
Or can I just sum it up? I’m just gonna do that because I ain’t got time for a dissertation.
Everything they’re claiming that points to him being far right are also things that can point to him being… wait for it… American, male, below age 40, a redditor, a gamer, and probably a drinker of water too.
All the things I read in that article that they claim are “popular with the far right” seem to be things that are also just “popular with people”. To put it simply for you - what they are saying isn’t wrong, it’s what they aren’t saying that makes them wrong.
Why don’t you do some reading on this subject to see why they’re wrong. We have statements and information you can read from:
-his family
-his pastor
-his best friend
-his classmates
-his neighbors
-his text messages
-his discord messages
-his social media history
-the ammo casings
-the FBI
-the governor of Utah
-the president
-his own transgender boyfriend
That all say the same thing; he at one point was a normal kid who then went hard into Leftist politics.
they never said he’s a leftist, especially not his family. quit lying.
he wore the same tracksuit, did the same pose, and made the same smug smile as the pepe meme around the time groypers began using that as a coded signifier to others in their group. not a coincidence nor do leftists do that lol what are you on?
Said it over 100 times a gaming session back in the day. My count was in the thousands back then. By the time I got into high school I was over my Nword phase. Funniest part is all my friends are black, I have black family and my adopted brother and sister were dark brown. I just said it because other people did and it made some people mad lmao.
yes there have never been a documented case, nor has any formal case ever been brought forth against reddit user kodyak losing a job over the saying of a discriminatory, distasteful, unlawful racist slur while he was playing a multiplayer first-person shooting game called Call of Duty, of notable cultural penetration, "chatting" with other game players (whether the other player was of a dark skin is unknown) in a non-professional, non-academic setting - the interstitial period between game matches when the reddit user kodyak was 13 (thirteen) years old
Of course it’s an exaggeration. Paula Deen and Jon Gruden are examples of essentially the same thing. I apologize deeply for giving a slightly embellished version of the truth
Lmfao what the actual fuck are you talking about. I mean I know this sub is full of virgin fucking losers but try and form coherent sentences please. Or just find a rope idc
Didn't heard about it, is this about Conor Daly? Stupid, because the father was apologizing for it, but I see there wasn't really any uproar online/in the media, there wasn't protests and YouTube videos of leftoids wanting him to get fired. Sponsor company just didn't wanted to be connected to him, so, I guess, it's just capitalism. Also, he stills drives to this day, so it is hardly comparable to firing m
These people forming the list are literally canceling people saying he shouldn't have died but he was an asshole. This is absolutely cancel culture. They're just mixing normal people with far left people on the list.
Just a reminder that all of these Twitter mouthpiece dudes were literally the people wearing pantsuits and carrying briefcases to school that even the most wimpy AP kid would bully.
I guarantee 90% of people posting about him never thought about him until the media painted him as a beacon of free speech. Add me to the database cuz I genuinely don’t care what happened to him, he was just some dude and people get shot every day in this country; he, by his own admission, is no exception and I highly doubt he’d care if I got shot.
I mean not personally no, but I can see why people found that video disturbing just like I can see why people thought Kirk’s was; but again, I’m not gonna waste my life crying over strangers who wouldn’t cry over me. Jesus it’s not hard
And it doesn't concern you at all what this means for our society? A man was murdered for his political opinion, and people are celebrating his death. Does it not even cross your mind how fucked up this is?
Do you think this is the first time this has happened? Probably happens on a smaller scale way more than you realize. Also, all I’ve seen since is retaliatory threats so if we’re all gonna get bent up and start a civil war over some mouthy political grifter then we were probably too far gone long before this. Maybe we should’ve cared when it was 20 5th graders getting shot in the only developed country where this shit happens and we could’ve avoided the entire thing; but I happen to recall this very same dude calling that stuff a cultural problem and fighting tooth and nail to prevent any kind of safety measures from being taken so I guess cry me a river. I’ll say to again, I don’t care
not caring is absolutely fine. celebrating a brutal political assassination is a big problem: what kind of society can exist when things like that are allowed by some? there are also those who have encouraged more political assassintions, for those it's clear why they need to be punished.
how on earth am i the one being tone deaf in a conversation about people celebrating a brutal political assassination lmao. do you even hear yourself coping so hard?
Same. I forgot who he was until I saw his face and thought "ah, it's him" then swiped away. Whatever he does is of no matter to me anyway as a non American.
Literally never heard of this dude until he died. All the sudden he's getting compared as the next MLK. But I agree, people are killed everyday, and yet this guy for some reason has been treated with more respect by a god loving political party than it does to its service members that sacrificed their lives for pointless bullshit for two decades and counting...
I wouldn't have honestly cared much beyond just saying RIP if it wasn't for the fact that Leftists and Reddit have a serious problem with openly getting away with calls to and celebrating violence and are STILL doing it
While also trying to gaslight everyone into thinking the shooter was a MAGA, calling for more shootings, and these social media companies are still not even enforcing the rules on the left when the right gets shit for way less
And now somehow the left gets to cry victim of cancel culture because they gave the bare minimum consequences of posting they want to rape and murder his children online?
1) these teachers willingly broke their contract
2) freedom of speech is not freedom of consequences, don't y'all love saying that?
3) If you believe someone should be killed for their opinions, Don't cry when you get fired for yours
The people who were actually threatening or implying that more should get shot, 100% deserve whatever happens. What I think is funny though is people are finding receipts that literally the same accounts posting memes like "Happy 5 years of sobriety to George Floyd", are now effectively shaking and crying and peeing themselves over not even the actually bad posts but just people making "What if Charlie Kirk's neck just did that?" posts are getting people trying to dox them and/or get them fired. It's really exposing some of these people as throwing stones from glass houses.
Getting cancelled for saying Charlie Kirk's chickens came home to roost and getting cancelled for saying the n word on twitter is an apples to oranges comparison.
There's a huge difference. Charlie Kirk's actual opinion was that gun deaths are a worthy price to pay for the 2nd amendment. If a woman's real opinion is that other women deserve to be assaulted for the way they dress, it would in fact be ironic if she were on the receiving end of said assault. Your version is not the same at all
I'm not saying he should have been, he definitely should not have. It just aligned with his own principles is all. He did in no way attempt to push policies that would lower gun deaths
No, it's not aligned with his views. His views were that murder was wrong, it's going to happen regardless of gun laws, and giving up your rights isn't the answer. It would be funny how warped this view you and many others hold is, if it wasn't for the existential dread the thought that you allowed to vote illicits.
Are you familiar with the FBI crime statistics broken down by race or the racial makeup of other western nations with low gun deaths but high rates of ownership?
I never said necessity - if you can't engage without lying, just fuck right off
Kirk quote
"I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."
Now you're just being obtuse. Obviously by bringing it up in the discussion of his death, the implication is that he deserved it somehow. Almost like victim blaming.
People are bringing it up because he was totally fine with other innocent people he didn't know or care about being murdered, so he could own a gun.
The implication is that, by his own logic, by his very own words, he would have been okay with his own gun death because he believes some gun deaths are an acceptable cost.
It's clear I don't agree with the statement he made, but do you agree with the statement he made?
justifying a political assassination by someone's opinions should have you punished irl. i have reported you and encourage everybody to do so, and with a little bit of luck the right authorities will come know on your door.
lol. You think it's "effective?" K. So was the Bud Light boycott. Target, too. And M&Ms. And Disney. And Lowe's. And Coca-Cola. And Keurig. Those brands are really struggling.
Whatever you gotta tell yourself, weren't leftys the one boycotting Target, btw?
If we're going off effective boycotts nobody has a win in the last decade, the left included.
I was referring to the sheer amount of firings over this, they even got that ungodly abomination Gretchen Felker. Use caution if you look her up, it's not
If we're going off effective boycotts nobody has had a win in the last decade
Didn't Ivanka Trump's fashion line dissolve bc of boycotts? Also, the NRA lost basically all of its major consumer sponsors including airlines, hotels, all the car rental companies, etc. 🤷
IDK if that's considered a win, but also, the right-wing boycotts seemed to have done some stuff, too. Pretty much every major boycott they jump into works to make racism allowed at work again. Seems like most companies like doing racism tbh.
Target was boycotted in 2023 by right-wing groups bc they celebrate pride. They're being boycotted by some liberal groups bc of eliminating DEI, but I don't know any leftist groups specifically boycotting them rn.
Personally, I think this is a great excuse for companies to part ways with people who are pro-Palestine without seeming like they're "taking sides" on that much more controversial issue. I would be interested to see anyone who was fired for saying something about Kirk that didn't also speak out against the Israeli genocide.
Why are you invoking events from 500 fucking years ago? This is literally manipulative girlfriend shit
We are a different society. Different laws are established. Most things that were once wrong are now corrected. If you preach religious freedom today nobody is going to shoot you, you fucking retard.
Idk man, I went to school like 20 years ago, so he might have been a footnote or something, but you're expecting people to recognize his name like he was Thomas Edison or something.
Did you learn about him in school, or did you hear about him from some Left-leaning YouTuber complaining about the Right trying to cancel people?
I'm not expecting anyone to know his name off the dome, but I would expect someone to remember that the Puritans kicked a dude out of society who then went on to found Rhode Island when I mention it!
I didn't have "Roger Williams" locked down in my mind and know his whole fuckin autobiography, but because I'm not some ignorant mouth-breather, I remember my high school APUSH class from 2009, and as soon as someone tried to claim that "the left" invented cancel culture, my brain went "Wait... didn't the Puritans (who were extremely about about all the same shit that modern fundie rightwingers are about) actually cancel a guy so hard that he founded another separate state?" So then I googled "Puritans kicked out" and read the story again.
Puritanical literally means being strictly religious and moral. Isn't the whole ostensible problem with the left that "they've strayed from traditional Christian morals?" That's the opposite of Puritanism...
The left wing cancel culture wave of the 2010s is rooted in the same spiritual mindset that carried the right wing cancel culture waves of the 80s and 90s.
Progressives absolutely are puritans, that's why everyone in real life hates them. They are canceling comedy shows ffs. I'm not sure what better comparison to 20th century Republicans you can get.
Lol ok so now we are gaslighting that cancel culture only targeted jokes made 15 years ago. All those racists caught on camera that gets fired or actors saying racist shit and getting cancelled was totally because of their 5th grade blackface.
No it's not. Redlining was fake in the past as well. Most "redlined" people, by a huge margin, were white. Muh redlining was always just banks making rational decisions about investment and credit.
Hypocrisy aside, it's really dumb to say something on publicly identifiable accounts that could get you fired. Why did everyone start thinking that not being anonymous anymore on the internet was a good idea?
Well, a few of the spicy Tweets I saw were on sites like BlueSky, so I assume they thought they were in a safe space for their echo chamber.
Or they thought they didn't have friends/followers on their social media profile who would have taken offense to what they said, another issue of living in an echo chamber.
Yeah that's the issue I come into. I strongly disagree with using the government levers to punish people, that's not okay at all especially if it's a stupid, probably mid, dark joke, but some people are just saying the most insane shit with their whole chest (and company and name) right there. At least the alt-right learned proper op-sec.
There's definitely a double standard to be careful of here, but in the case of educators and school counselors, they are held to a higher standard because they need to maintain community trust. Parents trust their children in their care and if they are celebrating the death of a guy over differences in political opinions, well that ruins the trust of about 50% of the parents. Can parents trust that you will treat their children fairly and give them an adequate education even if their parents believe differently than you? Can they trust that you won't make efforts to indoctrinate their children with values that are inconsistent with what they believe in their household?
Another concern would be with healthcare providers. If you are publicly commenting that someone deserved to die because of their political opinion, how can you be trusted to feel any different if a conservative rolls into your emergency room. If you have a guy on your operating table who showed up in a MAGA hat, can you be trusted to give them the best care possible, or do they deserve to die too?
The right throws away anti cancel culture values and dox assassination celebrators.
The left throws away gun control values and celebrates kirk assassination.
Huh almost as if everyone does everything and all of these moral high grounds are completely baseless.
Can't get mad at the standards one side started. It must suck losing your career because you are so full of hate. Oh well you won't guilt people into not exposing extremist trash. They started the whole doxxing bs, I would probably care if trash people didn't attempt to dox me, luckily my friend owns the business and just laughed at the losers. Oh well remember all you want, i remember leftists starting with doxxing
Lmfao "political violence can never be the answer so we are compiling a list of people we disagree with politically that we would like violence done to"
If you hold a gun and I hold a gun, we can talk about the law. If you hold a knife and I hold a knife, we can talk about rules. If you come empty-handed, and I come empty-handed, we can talk about reason.
Stop noticing, be a good mensch and ignore the fact that this sub’s sentiment does a complete 180 every election cycle and when worldwide political news breaks.
'Oh no, tit for our +20 years of tat, that came out of nowhere!~' whining about double standards loses any raal meaning or valisity when its from people with zero values or intellectual integrity.
The *right* is just using leftist tactics against them, and I don't blame them. I forget where I heard it but it was way before this shit happened and now I'm seeing it everywhere but:
"Honor has no use to the dead, why fight a dishonorable opponent at a disadvantage?" - more or less what they're saying now
So yeah, makes sense. Regardless Israel has successfully baited both wings of the cuck bird and now they'll turn a blind eye to our greatest ally.
r professors is melting down in real time over cancel culture being on the other foot now. They are struggling to make sense of it, like the victims of a bad traffic accident. LMAO.
"You can't CANCEL people for just calling for, enacting, and celebrating violence against people that just believe what you believe. That's literally what the LIBS are doing!1"
A searchable database? Are we supposed to trust a random website? They could make any shit up. Unless there is a verified social media account from a person that has claimed in person the account belongs to them, all do this can be bullshit
The thing about conservatives is they can only ever argue in bad faith because their good faith arguments of “we should live according to this rule book for Iron Age goat herders” has 5% approval
Oh no people are upset I laughed at a man being murdered in front of his wife and children after 10 years of my psycho ideology advocating for this very thing, this is definitely the same thing as getting someone fired for saving the n word in a COD lobby in 2009
The problem is the left has a melt down and cancels people over usually petty things and the right just moves on. The right is pissed off now because no matter where you go on the internet there’s millions of lefties praising his death and jumping for joy. Massive difference. Honestly unbelievable to see and only leftists don’t see it. Everyone who isn’t a leftist extremist is seeing this and is horrified. It’s not playing well for them at all. My fear now is that some of the hate I’m seeing on the right may turn into violence and then it’s over at that point.
Are all these angry people making videos on TikTok saying how they're gonna fight back and want revenge getting their guns ready to go hunting white male pro-gun Republicans now?
Or were they just full of shit when they said those things...
Donald Trump pardoned the Jan 6th rioters because he supports violence against liberals. Conservatives still supported Donald Trump after because they support his support of violence against liberals. Charlie Kirk was conservative. So if I cheer Charlie Kirk being murdered by a mormon dweeb then I'm just cheering the death of someone that supported violence against me. Now, if you're thinking "but doesn't that mean you'd cheer all conservatives being murdered??".......well, i didn't invent deductive reasoning. And I'm certainly not responsible for conservatives believing the things they do.
Left wing journalists literally tried to subvert democracy by creating a database of every single person that voted for Trump in 2016. I don't approve of either action, but that's the thing, this is what it has become. Let these mfs face the consequences of the very same kind of thing they supported.
What I can't get over is the amount of talking past each other that I've been seeing.
I know generalization is nothing new in this sphere but the number of times I've seen "all democrats think " or "all Republicans think " in regards to this murder makes me a little sick. Like, here I am, feeling that Charlie Kirk didn't deserve to die, but neither did Melissa Hortman. People generally don't deserve to die for the things they say or believe. But the vast online discourse pretends that I and people that think similarly just don't exist
lmao right wingers "thowing away their values, principles and credibility", like what? the values and principles of being grifters who suck 1% rich oligarch cock and cut healthcare and pension for elderly? those seem just as intact as always
The right wing always loves to call the left hypocrites, the but difference is we celebrate the death of fascism, they celebrate the death of little girls in Palestine.
It’s not like there’s only two teams and two sets of beliefs. These people are spreading hatred that indoctrinates people and lobbies their bollocks to become law. It’s the same thing the Nazis did and I’m not sure that was harmless tbh
Lmao people are so fucking retarded. This shits different than finding out someone said a joke 10 years ago and trying to get them fired. All these losers have is lies and false equivalencies.
I've had plenty of liberals on this site tell me that cancel culture is a alt right conspiracy theory, and if it does happen, it's only republicans that do it. Both sides are retarded
Creating a database of people celebrating the murder of innocent people for political motives is totally the same as ruining peoples’ lives for saying no-no words on the internet.
Cancel culture was people going "Noooo You have different values to me! You dont think that himalayan trans mountain goats are the most oppressed!!"
Now people are celebrating a death of someone who wanted to bridge the very divided sides by talking, on THEIR turf about THEIR issues. Multiple times before groups formed and heckled him, refusing to talk. And now he was, after just having talked, assassinated.
Yeah, I really wonder WHY people are canceling them now. If this doesn't cause an even bigger civil divide or worse, I'd be surprised
Seeing conservatives cry and scream is genuinely the 2016 election equivalent moment for the liberals. All the "liberal tears" shit is 1000x funnier knowing that these people are just as thin skinned.
Lmao I had the same thought. The domain is registered to an address in Iceland: “Kalkofnsvegur 2, Reykjavik, Capital Region, 101”. The address is associated with “Withheld for Privacy,” a company linked to a bunch of sketchy sites: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/business/iceland-online-disinformation-identity-theft.html
So whoever set it up knows what they are doing on the tech side I would imagine.
It shouldn't be about party politics. It's class consciousness now. Fuck billionaires, fuck the people who live lives unfathomable to the average citizen without a second thought. They deserve to die. Bring back the guillotine.
VividWeb5179@reddit
the real reason he died wasn’t because of the bullet but because he hadn’t sucked an israeli cock in 48 hours
make_reddit_great@reddit
Sorry the shooter was a lefty weirdo instead of a Mossad hit, anon.
camelyoga@reddit
he’s republican
OiledUpThug@reddit
Those damn republicans with their videogame/furry references and their transgender partners
camelyoga@reddit
https://bylinetimes.com/2025/09/13/deadly-memes-tyler-robinsons-far-right-groyper-ties/
OiledUpThug@reddit
british liberal tabloid
OpenSourcePenguin@reddit
There's always some cope available for you
OiledUpThug@reddit
as illegible as it is, I tried reading the article (unlike the guy that posted it) and the points they made are
his grandma thinks he's a republican
he was a registered nonpartisan
he dressed like pepe
Key_Disk_2751@reddit
He didn't even dress like Pepe, he dressed like a Gopnik.
camelyoga@reddit
he wore the same tracksuit, did the same pose, and smug smile as pepe around the time groypers were using pepe as a dogwhistle.
but all right wingers can do is cope so
Key_Disk_2751@reddit
I heard he also drank water. Did you know Hitler drank water?
camelyoga@reddit
is that how you cope? you do you
Key_Disk_2751@reddit
Is this how you cope?
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/suspected-charlie-kirk-shooter-tyler-robinson-charged-with-murder-over-conservative-activists-death/vv8rplzjg
camelyoga@reddit
show me a news source that is completely unbiased. i’ll wait, sir
IDrinkSulfuricAcid@reddit
Transgender partners? First time hearing this
camelyoga@reddit
bc there’s no evidence of it
OiledUpThug@reddit
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate
camelyoga@reddit
a roommate is NOT the same thing as a partner. are you ok??
RedditIsAboutToDie@reddit
you’ve been proven wrong about 17 times in this thread alone, how much are you getting paid to spread lies like this? surely you aren’t doing it for free because that would be… hilarious 😂
CowboyJames12@reddit
? Yeah that's surprisingly common? Blaire White is a whole ass Trans grifter. And any many involved with gamer gate would get all those references lmao
MJisaFraud@reddit
Nick Fuentes had his dick sucked by Destiny and there’s video of it. Turns out the groypers are pretty gay.
OiledUpThug@reddit
That wasn't Nick Fuentes
MJisaFraud@reddit
It was
Successful-Flan-9763@reddit
take ur meds
Desperate_Golf7634@reddit
Not really.
CustardBoy@reddit
Not a whole lot of liberal groypers out there.
Desperate_Golf7634@reddit
Is he one?
CustardBoy@reddit
Certainly a lot more evidence for it than otherwise.
Desperate_Golf7634@reddit
So...? Gonna provide any?
Successful-Flan-9763@reddit
google is free
Desperate_Golf7634@reddit
So there is none, thanks for the input.
Negative_Neo@reddit
In 4 replies you made 0 arguments nor provided info or made any substential statement other than "nu-uh"
Liquified brain
Successful-Flan-9763@reddit
"if i bury my head in the sand for long enough, reality will disappear" yep buddy sure
Desperate_Golf7634@reddit
He is actually from an Ugandan trans-lesbian. Look it up.
Successful-Flan-9763@reddit
nah, that playlist created 7 years ago and shared by 49 people tells me everything i need to know about him
OpenSourcePenguin@reddit
LMFAO "google it" only works if it's a very well known fact
Link or shut the fuck up
CustardBoy@reddit
So far just the stupid tracksuit picture. Maybe it's inconclusive but there's literally nothing to suggest he's a "lefty".
Desperate_Golf7634@reddit
Really, a tracksuit? Are you being for real?
CustardBoy@reddit
Yeah, it's your turn now.
Desperate_Golf7634@reddit
That is not evidence. That is like saying a red hat makes you MAGA.
CustardBoy@reddit
If we're not counting memes, we shouldn't count that one either. We're free to speculate, but again, there's nothing pointing to him being a lefty as the right desperately wants.
GenTycho@reddit
You ignoring evidence and saying he wasnt a lefty doesnt make you correct.
CustardBoy@reddit
What evidence am I ignoring? Isn't everyone against fascism? Including the right? How does it point to him being on the left?
GenTycho@reddit
Youre either a shitty troll or horribly stupid.
Desperate_Golf7634@reddit
You are the one desperate here, bud.
CustardBoy@reddit
Fairly sure it's all the GOP reps that had to do a full 180 in their rhetoric once this guy was caught.
Desperate_Golf7634@reddit
Over him being an anti-fascist? I do not get it.
CustardBoy@reddit
Me neither, but that's what they did!
Desperate_Golf7634@reddit
Im sure they did lol.
camelyoga@reddit
we know he was a follower of nick fuentes, a neo n*zi. that’s the opposite of liberal
Desperate_Golf7634@reddit
Ok, can you give me a source?
camelyoga@reddit
https://bylinetimes.com/2025/09/13/deadly-memes-tyler-robinsons-far-right-groyper-ties/
Desperate_Golf7634@reddit
Replied in the other comment.
camelyoga@reddit
i don’t see it
Desperate_Golf7634@reddit
Here:
Have you read the article? Slav squats and tracksuits are an eastern European stereotype that has been popular forever. It has no special connection with groypers and it's ridiculous to even suggest that. Bella ciao is an anti-fascist song and has remained one. The playlist has double digits follows. The site is a Leftist rag with zero evidence provided, aside from weird deflections.
camelyoga@reddit
bro he wore the exact same tracksuit in the exact same pose as a pepe the frog meme around the same time groypers began using that as a dogwhistle. along with the smug pepe smile, he is definitely part of that group.
but of course you’ll deny it bc you don’t want to admit right wingers are capable of misusing firearms and hurting “innocent” ppl.
Desperate_Golf7634@reddit
Groypers do not own tracksuits dude, nor the pepe meme. You just seem so desperate, you have to resort to using leftist tabloids for your source.
camelyoga@reddit
says who? tf
typical right wing cope. get some new material
Desperate_Golf7634@reddit
I mean as a symbol.
Sure thing bud. Guess I can cite Fox News and you will believe it?
camelyoga@reddit
that’s not up to you. cope.
every news source has bias. who do you think you’re kidding?
Desperate_Golf7634@reddit
You are delusional if you think that. Not much more to it.
camelyoga@reddit
bc you say so 😭 that’s a pattern w you
Desperate_Golf7634@reddit
You provided nothing, what do you mean?
camelyoga@reddit
mark2talyho@reddit
lol you think he’s the real shooter. Oy vey you are a well behaved goyim.
make_reddit_great@reddit
You're extremely intelligent!
TruestNestor@reddit
they're not mutually exclusive if you're retarded enough
and in our case...
aZealCo@reddit
It wasnt a bullet it was an illegal immigrant traveling at 2800 feet per second.
ButlerianJihadist108@reddit
The Talmudic Network sends its regards
positivelypolitical@reddit
Based and ((pilled))
WeightZombie@reddit
Wait so now that conservatives are doing it it's bad and frowned upon? They're using your tactics against you and you're mad about it 😂
MJisaFraud@reddit
Charlie Kirk died of a fentanyl overdose.
ThatGuyAtTheGym@reddit
I don’t get it. This joke implies that we’re crying that the left is making jokes the same way we joked about George Floyd. If “your guy” is a violent felon compared to our guy who said a few mean words, that isn’t the flex you think it is
MJisaFraud@reddit
Not sure what you’re on about. I’m talking about Charlie Kirk, a conservative pundit who died of a fentanyl overdose at UVU last week.
ThatGuyAtTheGym@reddit
ok dude
Krunkbuster@reddit
Then why aren’t the cities burning?
ykzdropdead@reddit
is this supposed to be a referrence to the idea that floyd didn't die of fentanyl overdose but people were supposedly using it to excuse police brutality?
Police are indeed brutal, and that doesn't exclude the fact that he died of overdose. It was literally written in his autopsy.
MJisaFraud@reddit
It’s a reference to last week when conservative pundit Charlie Kirk died of a fentanyl overdose at UVU.
Key_Disk_2751@reddit
If only Bill Gates shared the fent reactor technology he could have been saved.
idiot206@reddit
Seriously, how do we know his neck didn’t just do that?
Winter_Low4661@reddit
No, he died of covid.
philmarcracken@reddit
Those 'vax status' types are awfully quiet... look ma, i'm nooooticing
MJisaFraud@reddit
We know that Charlie Kirk got the shot at least.
cell689@reddit
Now we just need the blm types to destroy a couple of cities for Charlie and we're golden.
HeightAdvantage@reddit
Whatever it was, he died WITH not FROM it
Miata_slowcarfast@reddit
Lmao
Broddit205@reddit
The liberal will bend any situation into one where they are the victim. They have mastered the art of mental gymnastics. You cannot beat them in any form of debate because you will always be of a lower moral standing then they are, no matter what topic or side you are on.
HeightAdvantage@reddit
Conservative voters will literally swing 20 points in opinion polls depending on if you phrase a question option as being Trump's idea.
example
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
i mean thats just the general NPC response, ive also seen videos of lefties prasing Trumps policies until they hear its Trump then they do a 180 and say its the worst thing ever. People who dont have a thought of their own in their head.
MediumRare-@reddit
Literally has never happened, the opposite has though
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
you people are delusional if you think this doesnt happen on both sides
JMACpegasus@reddit
Do you have any links? I would love to watch that lmao
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
cant really remember off the top of my head, im sure you can just go to youtube and type something like "telling people trumps policies without saying they are trumps policies" or something
HeightAdvantage@reddit
Yeah you have examples of that. But on the left it's randos on Twitter, on the right its 80% of the party and virtually all of its leaders.
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
sure buddy, whatever you say. On the left its ONLY randos on Twitter.
Buy_The-Ticket@reddit
The irony of this comment is overwhelming.
-pointy-@reddit
Where did he paint himself as the victim? I don’t think you know what irony means.
Affectionate_Jaguar7@reddit
He does know, but you don't. The right winger cried victim "we are now using you're tactics against you!". Right wingers invented cancel culture. In fact, for centuries disagreeing with christian nationalism/theocracy got you killed by the church/the state. But they're acting as if cancel culture is a new thing invented by the left.
-pointy-@reddit
Disagreeing with communists always went well
Affectionate_Jaguar7@reddit
So what is older, the church or communism?
-pointy-@reddit
Socially outcasting people has always been part of human society.
Affectionate_Jaguar7@reddit
So you agree right wingers are disingenuous when crying about "cancel culture".
-pointy-@reddit
Making your points by hamfisting them into other people’s statements is a weak minded strategy.
“So you agree”
No, I don’t agree since “cancelling” people was only complained about when it was taken too far. I think celebrating murder, saying blatantly and directly racist remarks and other non-comedic bigotry is all worthy of informing someone’s workplace as they represent them online.
11448844@reddit
I think cancel culture was invented when Grug told Zuk that he didn't like neanderthal women and Zuk was offended because his 3rd and 4th wives were
ThirstyOutward@reddit
Every single thing he said applies to conservatives
NuclearOrangeCat@reddit
shut up
GATA_eagles@reddit
You sound dumb
SigmundFreud@reddit
Liberals are against cancel culture. Right-wingers and left-wingers just like to cosplay as liberals whenever it's politically convenient.
snarpsta@reddit
Charlie Kirk celebrated the attack on Pelosi's home. The audience loved it. The right does it too dingus. If argue even moreso. Never forget either, conservatives commit the vast majority of mass shootings 🙂
WeightZombie@reddit
Oh. Ok dingus 👌🏻
snarpsta@reddit
I'm telling you literal facts and your reply is, "no u".
WeightZombie@reddit
I'm not sure how you want me to respond when you call me names.
Wizardwizz@reddit
In the end, I don't really care about either side. Don't be stupid enough to post shit online that could come back and bite you in the ass.
skimaskschizo@reddit
People really need to work on their online anonymity. I don’t know why you’d want your real name and face attached to anything online outside of maybe Facebook to keep up with friends and family.
Babys_For_Breakfast@reddit
Or just act like there is no online anonymity
Max2tehPower@reddit
While I understand the so called hypocrisy, I think that some people on the right are getting tired of trying to hold themselves to a high moral standard while the left runs circles around those moral standards. For example, the left will call out the right for not being Christian because they don't support immigration or whatever else they are trying to get the right to change their mind about, while simultaneously not being religious to begin with and just want to use the right's morals against them.
So the question is how does the right "fight" the left when the left has no rules? Ignoring the possible rumors of who actually killed Kirk, and focus on the "left" being his killers because of his opinions, it puts into perspective that the left is willing to ignore whatever morals and ethics to win, and the right just has to succumb and accept it because they should not stoop down and get rid of their morals. So the fight now becomes fight fire with fire because otherwise the fight will be a losing one.
Metrocop@reddit
Lmao. The right had no ethos other than "win" for decades now, shifting positions daily and having no need for consistency in their beliefs. The only thing that matters is the dear leader and liberals being butthurt.
Max2tehPower@reddit
The right in the present is not necessarily the neocon right prior to 2016. After 2016 many people started to move away from the left which became entangled with social justice politics. I don't see eye to eye with the neocons and considered myself left wing until the social justice warriors started to take the fun out of things in 2012. This present day Republican Party is a mesh of different people who don't want to have anything to do with the lefties.
NachoNutritious@reddit
That's literally how it's going. They have no argument other than to shidd and fard that the conservatives are being "hypocrites" by using the left's tools against them.
They set the rules of engagement, the right has just started following them.
Winter_Low4661@reddit
Accelerationists when reactionaries react:
sorryiamnotoriginal@reddit
I don't understand how people think they can keep attacking/prodding one side and not get retaliated back at. Expecting any side to just roll over and die is stupid.
That being said conservatives have had their version of cancel culture its just theirs is when people are celebrating or advocating for the death of people. Like for example this happened before during the trump assassination attempt where people saying "dont miss next time" and shit like that got doxxed. Probably other scenarios too but to my knowledge it is usually advocacy of violence. The left used it when people said racial slurs or something online even if it was 10 years ago. Maybe also on Jan 6th.
Winter_Low4661@reddit
Accelerationism. If you believe in a historical dialectic that will just eventually happen, and "coincidentally" according to your ideology it's your side that wins in the end, then you have an incentive to make things worse on purpose so you can make history progress past the threshold and get to the end sooner.
PineapplelessPizza@reddit
This, conservatives are against cancel culture, not against paying with the same coin or vendettas; which is, honestly, pretty fucking fair
camelyoga@reddit
so you’re just as bad as liberals, got it
CheeseyTriforce@reddit
No because I don't think South Park should be cancelled for making fun of him 2 weeks ago
I do think brain surgeons saying they want to see his young kids raped and killed shouldn't be getting to do surgery on people's fucking brains though
nieskiev@reddit
the brain surgeons..... that go to the internet and call for child rape and child murder.... and perform brain surgery on people's fucking brains....... and they totally exist 100000% no rage bait
camelyoga@reddit
womp womp
WeightZombie@reddit
You crying about something?
OpenSourcePenguin@reddit
Except others never claimed to be against cancel culture, they are just pointing out conservatives did claim that very often
Petesaurus@reddit
Are you actually dumb? There's nothing in this post that indicates that anyone is mad that someone is creating this database.
Madlyfylingcows@reddit
I think the difference is the insane amount of people celebrating Kirk’s death which has driven the tension through the roof. Everywhere I go on any social media you can find people celebrating that he’s dead. If everyone had just come out and agreed that what happened was horrible and that was it then it wouldn’t have gotten to this extreme.
bittercripple6969@reddit
Alinskian mad other people found the playbook.
Crazy_Crayfish_@reddit
I think it is retarded regardless of which side is doing it. Just because one side does it doesnt excuse the other side doing the same. Anyone that gets upset at the other side doing this is retarded if they will excuse their side for doing the same shit.
mehthisisawasteoftim@reddit
After spending the last decade politely asking that people's online political opinions from outside their workplaces shouldn't be held against them at their jobs the right has finally started responding
They didn't want things to be this way, the left dragged us down to their level, welcome to the new normal
ThirstyOutward@reddit
Go back to Facebook
WeightZombie@reddit
Yessir Mr president sir
back_reggin@reddit
What tactics? The left have been telling us for years that cancel culture doesn't even exist. Somehow though, they do seem to be very upset about this non-existent thing.
make_reddit_great@reddit
It's good for democracy! https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-commentary/opinion-cancel-culture-is-good-for-democracy-1234681224/
CheeseyTriforce@reddit
(D) emocracy
CheeseyTriforce@reddit
If only these people on BlueSky calling for more murder had only said a slur when they were 4 years old then it would have been ok to fire (and shoot) them according to Reddit
omega552003@reddit
"Not Like That!" -Shocked Pikachu face
NegiSpringfieldYT@reddit
Getting people fired might be a bad idea, especially if the tables turn. I know this has been done by Lefists before. It was wrong for them then and it's wrong now. I don't condone mocking someone's death though.
Pogopoggers69@reddit
The left made the rules to the cancel culture game, and they're crying because they're on the receiving end of it.
Pound sand.
otoverstoverpt@reddit
so what was it when the right canceled the Dixie Chix in the early aughts way before the cancel culture temper tantrum from the chuds inthe 2010s
CustardBoy@reddit
People like to pretend the left is the only ones who did it, but in reality it was just because the right was the one who complained about it the most.
PancakePartyAllNight@reddit
The left loves to cancel their own way more than aiming it at the right. They eat themselves, that’s why they’re being destroyed by the right. The right is better at banding together. Way better.
Oppopity@reddit
But that's the thing. Both sides do cancel culture. Only the right bitches and moans that it's an attack on free speech.
Assatt@reddit
It's just the rights turn to do it. Every 10 years they change sides
DishTrue4117@reddit
Not cancellation because everyone still liked the dixie chix?
otoverstoverpt@reddit
bahahah this response is stupid on too many levels to even no where to begin
DishTrue4117@reddit
And this is a total fucking non response
otoverstoverpt@reddit
yea by design dumbass, you didn’t even say anything worth responding to
TonberryMotor@reddit
No one gives a shit mate. That's what you can't understand, anyone will do anything they can once in power.
"What about what about" just shut up and accept you're going to be the punching bag for awhile.
otoverstoverpt@reddit
I actually feel the exact reverse is true lmao, the hogs are getting clowned for this everywhere but these weird little niche internet spaces
TonberryMotor@reddit
I'm gonna be real with you, not sure what you mean by "hogs" because that could be the blue hairs or the bald ones.
otoverstoverpt@reddit
oh please
you know exactly what it means
i’ll also never understand this blue hair shit, most people i know with blue hair are trailer trash MAGAts
TonberryMotor@reddit
I do? The last time I heard the term used was shared clips of Asmongold called fat women hogs like a week ago.
I'm actually confused now, so I'm assuming from your outburst that you refer to MAGA as hogs as well. That's literally all you have to say mate.
otoverstoverpt@reddit
i think admitting to following Asmongold in any capacity is maybe the most embarrassing thing i have ever seen
mate hog has always meant maga in this context, just try to keep up
DishTrue4117@reddit
You on r/4chan
Kainraa@reddit
"The left did this!" "The right did this!"
Meanwhile we are just normalizing snitching
flyinchipmunk5@reddit
Pretending any side invented ostracization is hilarious.
Readshirt@reddit
He didn't say that though, he said cancel culture. That term came into being ca 2015 as "cancelling" and unambiguously was advocated by the left, who euphemised it as "call out culture" or "consequence culture", and denigrated by the right.
The people who invented using mass social media pressure and list making to get people ostracized, and fired were on the left.
Added to that, that type of cancel culture usually involved people saying things deemed politically incorrect, not active celebration of the assassination of a non violent person, which probably would've resulted in ostracization and employment fallout prior to the invention of cancel culture
centurio_v2@reddit
imagine a world where ostriches were never around to come up with it
prisonsuit-rabbitman@reddit
there's way too many ostriches
aZealCo@reddit
People used to get outright banished back in the day, like your village would just kick you out and be like alright start walking any direction but here.
I don't get why people think losing a job is such a big deal. Jobs are everywhere. I am regularly turning away recruiters from my linkedin.
ReReReverie@reddit
Cause they want you.
SunshineThunder101@reddit
The only reason the "parental advisory explicit content" label exists is because of right wingers & religious nutjobs taking musicians to trials in the 80s
& before that it was McCarthyism.
You have permission to keep playing in the sandpit whilst the adults are talking though
Pogopoggers69@reddit
Cope and seethe
romhacks@reddit
A sure sign of a mature individual.
Pogopoggers69@reddit
PDF anime picture detected
Opinion rejected.
romhacks@reddit
It's a stuffed plush. If that makes you think of fucking children, you've got your own issues.
(Look who can't say PEDOPHILE)
Pogopoggers69@reddit
"she's actually 4000 years old, officer!" ahh comment
romhacks@reddit
D tier ragebait
SunshineThunder101@reddit
Sorry I'm not a chronically online dweeb, I don't know what your little internet phrases mean
maxwellsearcy@reddit
Incorrect. Roger Williams got kicked out of Plymouth Colony in 1620 by the Puritans (AKA the most right-wing conservatives to ever do it) bc he preached religious freedom, separation of church and state, and being tolerant of Native Americans.
Right-wingers created the game. They're just really not very good at playing it. 🤷
Theroux721@reddit
Oh man... How many party switches™ occurred since then, I wonder.
BitingSatyr@reddit
The Puritans weren’t “right wing conservatives,” they were utopian religious zealots, and the progenitors of basically every form of American leftism
Nestramutat-@reddit
The brainrot has gone too far
maxwellsearcy@reddit
Yeah, the hyper-Christian cult that wanted pure religious theocracy was VERY left-leaning. Wtf are these people even talking about???
oni_no_onii-chan@reddit
Lmao brother can you define the "left"?
maxwellsearcy@reddit
Sure. Political ideologies that seek the reduction or elimination of extreme power differences among humans due to status and wealth.
oni_no_onii-chan@reddit
I searched what puritans originated from since I don't have much info about christianity. They're calvinists and protestants, especially calvinism is a big clue since it invented to integrate christianism to capitalism. Because catholic christianism was a problem for this type of production model.
If american modern puritans don't follow a deeply changed version of calvinism like john brown does, they're most definitely right wing.
maxwellsearcy@reddit
Correct. They were a Christian theocratic cult that left England because they were fed up with other people around them having freedom of religion and wanted to build a completely homogeneous society. They also were very anti-Native American and opposed sexual liberation or female independence of any sort.
AvatarADEL@reddit
Damnatio ad memoriae or something like that. If the Romans hated you, they would damn your memory and you were erased from history. Obviously it failed since we know the names of a bunch of people they did it to. I wouldn't call the Roman Republic right wing though. Ostracism has been a thing for forever with humanity. The cavemen didn't like you, they kicked you out of the tribe.
Pogopoggers69@reddit
Lmao you sound like Putin claiming Ukraine is part of Russia because of a treaty from the 17th century
maxwellsearcy@reddit
You have 0 historical literacy. 👋🏻
Oppopity@reddit
The right bitched and moaned about cancel culture being an attack on free speech only to then do cancel culture. The right are hypocrites.
Pogopoggers69@reddit
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
Your own fault.
There's no putting the toothpaste back into the tube now
Oppopity@reddit
Cope.
The left has always been fine with cancel culture.
The right is only against it happening to them because they're hypocrites.
Pogopoggers69@reddit
Holding us to a higher standard is not the flex you think it is lol
It just means subconsciously you know we're better than you.
Oppopity@reddit
I'm holding you to the same standard dumbass.
Petesaurus@reddit
Where is this crying? I think you're making it up
ThirstyOutward@reddit
Seethe
swislock@reddit
You have to stop huffing your own cum, that stuff will rot your brain.
Pogopoggers69@reddit
Why is everything always about sex with you guys?
Talking about brain rot...
xerocage@reddit
Left, Right... this shit actually means nothing outside of USA. Which tells you all you need to know about this...
bushhooker@reddit
Idk what else to say other than welcome to the left brother 💪💪
TheDutchin@reddit
Cope
blackmobius@reddit
This is one of those few times where we need to point out that everyone does this, has been doing this, and will continue to do this for the foreseeable future. Both sides. For generations.
Its sold as “go woke go broke” or “the first amendment doesnt protect you from the societal consequences”. It used to just be straight up “we ran them out of town” or “we dont associate with those types”. And as we move forward we will make more bumper sticker saying to the same effect.
Whats more surprising is people thinking modern political parties have morals and values. Both parties have one value: consolidate power. Everything else is a move to get more of it.
TheFrustratedMan@reddit
Throwing my hat in this- a lot of people's opinions can change rapidly, especially within days as grief is a major contributing factor in this case. Unlike most political deaths, Charlie Kirk was more or less a popular figure, especially to younger audiences. His debate platform and the fact that he wasn't actually someone with a position of power painted him as "One of Us" types. The dude started from nothing and became someone who could just call up people in seats of power. And these people in power likely liked him. A lot of viewers probably liked him. So this is probably more personal than just another political figure dying or a CEO dying. At the end of the day, he was an influencer, and this is playing a huge part in it.
So it makes sense that within a few days, it went from "Find and Kill," to "We should live by his ideals."" The man encouraged people to talk, even if he had a clear side, he still wished for peeps to talk rather than further divide.
I know for me I was more disgusted and angry at the reaction, but now I don't feel that reaction is right.
But who knows. I think Ronald Mcdonald is the true culprit
TheBROinBROHIO@reddit
I wish they would, but to me it seems like they have yet to engage with, or even acknowledge the core of the 'left' perspective on the matter. They're just now facing a reality we've known for years, which is: it doesn't matter if you're a good, reasonable person, some crazy person with a gun might have it out for you. It's more likely if you're a prominent person, but you can be a literal child too. Unless you're powerful enough to never have to leave environments heavily controlled for safety, you face the same risk as all of us.
I don't actually believe the right 'doesn't care' about stuff like school shootings, and I'm not entirely anti-gun myself, but Charlie's solution to the problem he faced failed him in the most dramatic way it could have. I wonder if part of what's freaking them out so much is not really knowing what to actually do.
TheFrustratedMan@reddit
I'll speak as a more center right person on that last paragraph, actually. I care about school shootings. I don't forget them. There's hundreds and hundreds of examples of disgruntled adults and children who never got helped commit mass murder. It's evil, and admittedly, it does make me think harder on the 2nd amendment.
The flip side is that I don't trust the government. No matter who is running, I dont trust em. While a bunch of citizens with Pistols and AR's might not do much against a tyrannical government, I believe at least having a chance is better than none at all.
It's not just that, but if we listen to leftist talking points as of late- they want an open border alongside the 2nd amendment being revoked. Not just people cross those borders. Drugs and guns are also crossing. Stripping your citizens and letting undocumented through will not solve this problem and may even amplify it as gangs have less to fear from the average Joe.
It's a tough question with a tough answer, as just stripping guns away doesn't inherently fix the violent issues we face. Guns go away, and other kinds of crimes will inevitably rise up.
camelyoga@reddit
studies show citizens having guns doesn’t stop or do shit in situations where a shooting is actively taking place.
right wingers have harmful policies too if you’re even mature enough to admit that
TheFrustratedMan@reddit
You're claiming something without backing it up. It's an international manipulation to go "studies have shown" without showing said studies. For all I know, you could be pulling something out of your ass.
And I never said they didn't have harmful policies. You're trying to get a one up on me when I never made a claim on that. It's, again, intellectually dishonest of you to do this.
You can't come in guns blazing and expect me to accept a random online person's words as fact. Especially on this site where leftist propaganda is spread like wildfire. You can express your opinion, but you're not doing that, you're attempting to argue and accuse when all I'm doing is expressing how I view the 2nd amendment and the consequences of those actions
camelyoga@reddit
stop your incessant yapping: https://giffords.org/analysis/the-good-guy-with-a-gun-myth/
lord jesus
TheFrustratedMan@reddit
Nothing in this article brings up how difficult it is to get a concealed carry or open carry license, or how that license can be revoked in case of using it for self defense. Shouldn't that factor into this study or is this just a propaganda piece?
camelyoga@reddit
no, you’re just coping. you don’t actually care abt evidence when it refutes the bs you spew
TheFrustratedMan@reddit
Right. So next time I see a White Supremacist link a study about how Black people are culturally violent, instead of questioning the variables found in their "Study" I'll remember your words and take it as holy scripture and start believing blacks are the problem.
camelyoga@reddit
you were nitpicking every single possible variable that wasn’t accounted for to say the study isn’t valid. that’s not how it works
TheFrustratedMan@reddit
There are literally 2 variables. Not every. If I were to nit pick, this is how I would do it. If there is a study, there needs to be these variables included. What were the people carrying thinking? Were they primarily protecting themselves? Were they trying to back out of the situation or engage in it? Were they more worried about government backlash or not? These things need to be accounted for.
Your source brings up how people engaged. That's it. Not everyone out there is looking to engage, even with a gun. The primary goal is to ward off danger, not engage with it. If your lack luster study isn't accounting for variables, then it's not a study, it's an observation.
LiLZ906@reddit
Holy fuck BASED
Ginxchan@reddit
A person with a brain, what a weird thing to witness in reddit.
camelyoga@reddit
you can’t “ward off danger” without engaging. are u slow?
TheFrustratedMan@reddit
My car can go over 100. I'd say that's pretty fast
boxvader@reddit
Source?
camelyoga@reddit
https://giffords.org/analysis/the-good-guy-with-a-gun-myth/
boxvader@reddit
You claimed that citizens having guns doesn't do anything. In 7 situations based on the FBI study they eliminated the threat. Granted it's a small number out of the 160 but it's far from not doing shit.
Further if you look 17 incidents ended when the shooter killed themselves after knowing police were on scene. There's a good chance if anyone armed would have confronted them it would have ended the same way. 45 incidents involved the shooter engaging in gunfire with police. If there had been an armed citizen present before police arrival during one of these 45 it could have potentially ended there with the armed citizen.
In the vast majority of cases (127 out of 160), when active shooters are confronted they either flee or kill themselves. This is important and could help others survive an incident like this. Fighting back saves lives.
The time period for this study is also 10 to 20 years old so things could easily be different today.
camelyoga@reddit
so you’re using outliers to say the study isn’t accurate. lmao cope
buzziebee@reddit
Literally "exception proves the rule" lol
HeightAdvantage@reddit
A well armed populace didn't help you guys at all when Trump started black bagging people off to a El Salvador gulag or sending the national guard to be a military police in cities he doesn't like. Or mass pardoning violent insurrections.
As a foreigner, it looks like the 2a being a backstop against tyranny was just a myth.
sargrvb@reddit
Yeah. It's a myth because you think people are literally black bagging citizens and disappearing them. Which isn't happening. Which is why you think it's weird the guns aren't protecting us. They don't need to come out yet. And those of us with brains know this unlike some people recently which have lost all sense of reasoning and have decided the only way to move forward is to take cheap shots from rooftops.
EvMBoat@reddit
holy cope
HeightAdvantage@reddit
I never said he was black bagging citizens and I explicitly said where they were going to.
The problem is them not verifying who they're grabbing, and you know, the gulag.
Weird you didn't mention the insurrection or the national guard deployed against political opponents.
But it's good to know the line will always keep moving as soon as Trump does a new thing.
snrup1@reddit
Each one of those statements is mixed with bullshit.
FastenedCarrot@reddit
"Tyranny is when you deport illegals"
Notmydirtyalt@reddit
Further to this, I would say to those prove to me if we agree to give up the 2nd every time some kid wants to be edgy that the government won't actually stage false flags to get what they want.
TheBROinBROHIO@reddit
I'm not saying 'trust the government' by any means here, but what do you think this actually looks like in practice? When attempts were made on Trump's life, I didn't see anyone on the right rejoicing about how 'free' we are that one lone citizen could get so far in the name of fighting (what he perceived was) a tyrannical government, but wasn't this a perfect demonstration of what the 2A is ostensibly for?
delphs@reddit
Holy shit, finally a good take in this cesspool. Kudos to you
camelyoga@reddit
he was funded by millionaires. i’m not grieving over that pile of bones
TheFrustratedMan@reddit
Nobodies asking you to. If you're a functioning adult you can make your own decisions
Chewbakkaa@reddit
But…… should we have a database then?
TheFrustratedMan@reddit
I mean, why not? If you're just saying you're not grieving, no harm no foul. But if you came to me and told me you hope more people die, that you hope the same happens to his children, or any form of celebration, I don't see why can't people go "I don't want to hire this person"
Would you hire someone with Nazi beliefs? Or a tattoo that read kill all the blacks? Some beliefs should be shunned. Some of Kirks beliefs should be shunned. But when they're not calling for violence or enacting violence on anyone, I don't see why these beliefs should be justified in killing another.
Chewbakkaa@reddit
What was your stance on big brother/post 9/11 spying? Totally unrelated just curious
TheFrustratedMan@reddit
So admittedly, I wasn't old enough for 9/11. I was around 3. However, the stories and articles I did read about Post 9/11 were... interesting. There was a lot of justification for doing things we otherwise wouldn't have done. TSA and Iraq are the main culprits surrounding that discussion.
It's unfortunate, but I don't have all the know-how of post 9/11, just my experiences growing up. That being I remember my great grandma, Hardcore Conservative, always warning me to be wary of Muslims due to 9/11. I remember a lot of racism looking back, but as a kid I didn't understand it at all, so I just befriended anyone I could.
This is all something I should educate myself more on though. I' sorry if I didn't give an answer you were looking for
Chewbakkaa@reddit
Dang so big brother just means TSA and being racist against muslims?
Babys_For_Breakfast@reddit
Islam is not a race dude
TheFrustratedMan@reddit
My bad I completely misunderstood your question. At lunch break and thought I you were asking about something else entirely.
Short answer, me no like
gangrenous_bigot@reddit
Oi you hav a loisence for those thoughts???
TheFrustratedMan@reddit
Oi bruv you sayin' I need a loisences for there them thought???
gangrenous_bigot@reddit
Wif out a loisence youll have to git wif da guvna, innit and ‘ell sortcha out
VirtueSignalLost@reddit
He was once he got big.
WhosCowsAreThey@reddit
It’s almost like we aren’t that different after all
punkguy1219@reddit
Anything to distract from the Epstein list
Christoph3r@reddit
Release the fucking files already, JFC.
0_1_1_2_3_5@reddit
Rs in the senate voted not to do that a few hours after Kirk got iced.
Pepsiman177013@reddit
Chat is this real?
Dont_Touch_My_Nachos@reddit
Yes
ormagoisha@reddit
Why would politicians do that when they can use it as blackmail to get what they want? That's probably the best case scenario.
Christoph3r@reddit
How many of them are ON that list, I wonder?
ormagoisha@reddit
When you've got power you can scrub that part lol
WhosCowsAreThey@reddit
Probably why he got Merced in the first place. We’re all just fodder for protecting and funding the pedophilic elite
Shvingy@reddit
I just wish Russia didn't have nukes so we'd have a good third world country to invade and get it out of our system. Staying cooped up all day is driving us nuts.
P41N90D@reddit
The difference being one side doesn't openly advocate and propagate for the death of their political opponents. They don't get to cry 'both sides' when one starts doing what the other has been getting away with for decades.
Xwoklod@reddit
What are the sources you regularly use? I want to stay up to date but i dont have any decent news sources.
CheeseyTriforce@reddit
Firing people for celebration of murder is ok actually
I am willing to die on that hill
YasirTheGreat@reddit
I'm not a fan of it. Nobody changes their mind after being fired, and all it does is going to make them more radicalized. So we end up with a bunch of broke people with extreme opinions.
FormerlyWrangler@reddit
Dogshit logic lol punishment is crucial to societal cohesion
I will not elaborate
ClockworkSalmon@reddit
Im pretty leftist and yeah its just evil. Kirk was a piece of shit and I'm not sad in the slightest that he died, and had it been of natural causes I'd say the world would have been a better place. But murder aint it.
izanamilieh@reddit
"being politically active in a time where issues are artificially manipulated to make both sides hate each other is morally right" Being ragebaited by the elites to attack each is so funny as shit.
AvatarWaang@reddit
Is that "whiplash" truly one person, or just several opinions you've seen online and decided to construct into one being in your head?
MADMAXV2@reddit
I was about to say the same thing. Yeah it doesn't matter what side youre on. Two sides is already bad enough. I swear this human race is doomed lol
Dreadnought_69@reddit
The second amendment doesn’t protect you from the second amendment. 🌚
OrganisedVirgin@reddit
Ok grandma let's get you back to the home
Meh_Jer@reddit
you speak the tru-tru
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SlyguyguyslY@reddit
Nah, leftists celebrating are proving they are a public safety threat and being justly dealt with.
HesperidiumTheGreat@reddit
The tears of leftists who lost their jobs overnight is so funny its worth every "principle", whatever that supposed to mean
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maxwellsearcy@reddit
I'll take "Things that haven't happened" for 200, Alex.
eidSquirter@reddit
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/13/business/charlie-kirk-death-fired-comments
Kek
Snoo_46397@reddit
holy shit thats alotta pple
maxwellsearcy@reddit
Holy fucking shit, you ain't lying.
maxwellsearcy@reddit
Holy fucking shit, that's real. Wild. 🤪
monkstery@reddit
“Noooo you’re supposed to adhere to strict moral superiority by never doing anything against the people who want you dead, don’t stoop to their level by doing literally anything at all!!! If they pull a gun on you you’re supposed to defeat them with facts and logic like a heckin based and redpilled cuck!”
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CheeseyTriforce@reddit
"If you're winning at chess and the opponent shoots you, then you need to try cooling the temperature by being better at chess" -Leftists right now
InquisitorMeow@reddit
Lol he wasn't winning at shit. Going to the debate, saying a bunch of word salad then including something about God isn't winning a debate. This guy got schooled in any debate that wasn't against cherry picked bottom of the barrel students.
Rubbun@reddit
I don’t think there was any actual point about winning here? It’s just a dumb metaphor.
Kirk was sparking up conversations and getting opinions from both sides heard. Whether he was “winning” those debates or not is irrelevant. I don’t think it was ever his mission to win the most debates but to simply have them happen in the first place, specially where he thought they were needed most.
InquisitorMeow@reddit
If that's true why doesn't he upload his losses and name all his videos things like "Destroys liberal logic"? Let's not pretend he was simply hearing out both sides.
Rubbun@reddit
Idk, I’ve never been an avid watcher of his content. I’ll agree that his titles are garbage and his content is often focused on his “wins” because I guess that’s what makes him the most money on YouTube. But I’d bet he does have losing debates out there. I watched a gun debate he had where he very clearly didn’t “win” but more so reached common ground with someone with opposite views.
How does that detract that he was a consistent source of political debate in places that arguably really needed it? How was he not hearing people out?
InquisitorMeow@reddit
You don't understand why showing only the wins against dumbest possible opponents and labelling it as "liberal logic" is misinformation? Let's face it people are dumb AF and will build their stereotypes of an entire group based on these types of clips. If I uploaded videos titled "destroys conservative logic" and only have videos of inbred rednecks that's not exactly an informative or accurate picture of conservatives is it? At the end of the day this is just dehumanizing the other side. It's no different than when white people called blacks subhuman. Also if you haven't noticed already this is also dangerous anti education rhetoric. Why do you think he was debating college students anyway and not, ya know, politicians, lawyers, economists, or statisticians? Look at all the shady comments about universities "radicalizing the youth", give me a break. Or are we going to pretend that all the Right Wing politicians didn't graduate from college?
Rubbun@reddit
I mean I overall agree with you. I think only showing the worst of the other side isn't a good tactic if your point is to educate and accurately portray your ideological opposition. I think what we can get out of this (and we all know both the left and the right do it) is that there's a lot of dumb people with very strong opinions out there, and that, in the end, they're the ones digging their movement's grave, proving the stereotypes. The left should condemn those on their side who act like lunatics, and the same goes to the right.
That being said, is this what Kirk did? Going through his channel there's a lot of full debates he's had in different campuses. Sure, there's other shorter format videos with dumb titles, but that's just him playing the Youtube game as everyone does. Point is that if you're interested in not being misinformed, you can choose to watch the full videos and see the complete context. It's all there.
Pretty sure he did? Though maybe those videos are not in his channel for copyright purposes or whatever. That's just how it is sometimes with Youtube.
But other than that, do you not think it's very important to have those conversations in college, a place where you go learn about the world? I think it is.
I mean, do you not think most colleges aren't left-leaning at the very least? Right wing ideas have been demonized for more than a decade at this point. Do you not think people are being taught to think left instead of thinking for themselves?
InquisitorMeow@reddit
I've watched a few Kirk videos and got the gist of what he's about. I'm not saying that he never has civil debates or never has any rational points. However, he also posits a lot of blatantly racist points (can't trust black pilots) which are completely illogical and I cannot see how he would adhere to it if not to drive division and sow misinformation. Also, his credibility goes out the window when he brings up God as an argument, it has no place in debates. People with higher education lean left in general, that's simply correlation. Sure there could be a women's rights course or whatever but those are for people majoring in those types of topics and majority of college students would never take those courses. I also find it odd that no one seems to mind that their conservative representatives went to college and are sending their children to college.
Rubbun@reddit
Why is the black pilots thing racist? Would you put your life in the hands of someone who was hired not entirely based on merit, but partly due to the color of their skin? I wouldn't. I don't think DEI hires should handle the lives of people. Same applies to medicine.
Yeah I agree. I'm almost entirely in opposition of his pro-life arguments. Most of the time he defaults to God this or that and that's when he loses me.
Couldn't you make the argument that "educated" people lean left because the institutions they get their education from are left-leaning themselves?
Bit confused here. Did you mean to say that "no one seems to mind that their conservative representatives didn't go to college but are sending their children to college"? Otherwise I'm a bit lost.
InquisitorMeow@reddit
I understand DEI discourse around typical jobs but unless unqualified pilots are allowed to still receive their licenses without passing federally standardized tests or clocking the required hours I don't see how they can be unqualified. Unless they can prove black pilots are less capable somehow it's nothing but racism. I also find DEI complaints odd, no one is legally forcing companies to adhere to DEI. Those who don't believe in it and do it anyway likely do so to increase support and revenue from their customers. To then Turn around and throw hires under the bus seems... Hypocritical.
You can certainly theorize that higher education's left lean causes left leaning bias but that's an effect you will have to prove. I can also theorize that right wing talking points are illogical, therefore education sways people from them.
I'm calling out the fact that conservatives wage war against universities and claim that they radicalize kids, despite the fact that all of the conservatives in leadership positions, and literally anyone in positions of power (politicians, CEOs) all went to college and send their own children to college while calling for their defunding.
blax_prismic@reddit
you are both arguing your points very well i dont know why you specifically are being downvoted but i agree
InquisitorMeow@reddit
Well it's reddit. I just hope that people can apply some critical thinking and see past the bs being shoveled at us.
JMACpegasus@reddit
I don't really think what his social media team titled his yt videos has a whole lot to do with it.
Sleep-more-dude@reddit
The discourse is so far in the dirt with these influencers that it has killed any notion of thorough academic debate for this generation and the next ; doesn't really matter whether you lean left or right, thats the problem with Kirk et al. Nobody wins because its not a debate but a bunch of greased up retards wrestling with each other, the only winners are people who avoid watching that crap.
AfrikanCorpse@reddit
Political scholars recognized his impact on the 2024 election, particularly the youth turnout.
InquisitorMeow@reddit
Sure and impact has nothing to do with whether or not he can debate, what's your point?
InquisitorMeow@reddit
Buddy the tweets are there for everyone to see. It's pretty obvious which side actively calls for violence but ok. Also saying that karma comes around has nothing to do with wanting people dead but then again nuance isn't your strong point.
Kodyak@reddit
Cancel culture is finding out a guy said the n word when he was 13 in a cod lobby and getting him fired
Judah_Earl@reddit
Paula Dean and Liam Neeson both got cancelled for saying the magic word decades ago.
ripatmybong@reddit
Because “cancelled” often means lay low until people forget
nostalgiajunki3@reddit
Right. Because it's not a real thing unless you hold power over the person being cancelled. A segment of the public has no real power over someone at the end of the day. A president or department of Justice head on the other hand...
ZodiAddict@reddit
He was just in the naked gun, how is that cancelled?
Judah_Earl@reddit
Because he's Liam Neeson. They can't keep him down.
flyinchipmunk5@reddit
I think the truth is due to him being Scottish usually the euros get a n word pass a little because they don’t have the same weight and connotation as Americans do
Boiled_Ham@reddit
He's Irish.
EltonJuan@reddit
Now there's no need to go calling people slurs
gunfox@reddit
Can’t believe he said the i word
Geekerino@reddit
Hard r too
Ninja_Wanker123@reddit
There's always a reason to go around calling people slurs
zabickurwatychludzi@reddit
Potato, no poatato
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
When did Ballymena move?
SapirWhorfHypothesis@reddit
Ballymena is in Ireland, dum dum.
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
Since when?
Boiled_Ham@reddit
Northern Irish then...Catholic though, so Irish at heart no doubt.
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
He's a yank now. We don't want him.
Boiled_Ham@reddit
No pleasing some.
Sleep-more-dude@reddit
So basically black himself.
Winter_Low4661@reddit
But he played Scottish in the movie Rob Roy, which I'm only pointing out because I want to mention it because it has some baddass sword fights.
MegaJackUniverse@reddit
He is Irish
flyinchipmunk5@reddit
European I should just say
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
The uk left Europe
camelyoga@reddit
he’s not been given a pass. you’re white. don’t even start w me
GeneralBurg@reddit
I heard he had a pass
flyinchipmunk5@reddit
He’s not been given a pass just that people forget and forgive lmao. Where in my comment do I state I’m black and can give out passes? Lmao
julie3151991@reddit
He was also my dad in Fallout 3. I saw him fist fight a death claw.
Commandopsn@reddit
Liam Nelson came back because he said over the phone. “ I will find you” and he came back and did that so everything worked out okay
Affectionate_Fan3017@reddit
Nothing happens
EpicIshmael@reddit
Woosh
ZodiAddict@reddit
Go ahead and explain the woosh, me and the 200 people that upvoted will wait
EpicIshmael@reddit
It's because he was never cancelled maybe cancelling isn't really a thing in a society where having enough money doesn't really exclude you from anything.
DAM0091@reddit
Paula Dean got cancelled for wanting to throw an old Southern plantation style banquet with a bunch of black waiters dressed in tuxedos and white gloves serving food. This was not decades ago, it was when she got cancelled
ZMowlcher@reddit
Liam Neeson never got canceled. His story about the troubles had people being rarted but it was pretty quickly cleared away.
Judah_Earl@reddit
It wasn't about the troubles, it was a story about wanting to kill a black guy who raped a friend of his.
ZMowlcher@reddit
Yeah it was during the fucking troubles
Judah_Earl@reddit
Yeah, and it had nothing to do with the troubles. Therefore, it isn't a story about the troubles.
fauxhock@reddit
It does have to do with the troubles. He attributed his violent impulse from having grown up during the troubles. Are we pretending that childhood circumstances and someone's social culture have no impact on the rest of their life?
Winter_Low4661@reddit
Damn, this guy has a lot of lore.
serious_sarcasm@reddit
Where they adults when they said? Did they ever acknowledge the mistake and try to act better without having to be directly confronted over?
camelyoga@reddit
liam was an adult and no amount of trying to “act better” will ever cover up the fact that he’s a blatant racist pos
Dark_Matter_Guy@reddit
Seethe and cope
camelyoga@reddit
cope abt charlie and iryna being underground
CheeseyTriforce@reddit
Oh boo hoo
camelyoga@reddit
that’s how we feel abt iryna and charlie 🤣
CheeseyTriforce@reddit
I know and that's why people are shitting on your dog shit cultist party now
Have fun losing the midterms
camelyoga@reddit
mind you charlie was taken out by a right winger 🤣
https://bylinetimes.com/2025/09/13/deadly-memes-tyler-robinsons-far-right-groyper-ties/
CheeseyTriforce@reddit
These same left wing news sources also believe that you should eat bugs btw
camelyoga@reddit
hahaha that’s all you right wingers know how to do when presented with evidence:
CheeseyTriforce@reddit
🖕fuck Liberals, Democrats, Communists and Leftists
Dead_HumanCollection@reddit
And that's why we love him
Stacksmchenry@reddit
Shifting the goalposts a bit there.
aef823@reddit
You should have gotten the hint these retarded redditors won't get the hint when they thought arguing about who killed kirk instead of why was the important part.
And then as always, when they thought no one was arguing with them, they thought they were right.
I wonder WHY no one wants to argue.
19Alexastias@reddit
I think it’s a bit disingenuous to frame it like that when the literal president of the country (part of the right wing party) tweeted about how the radical left were responsible - before they’d even caught the killer, let alone discerned his motives which they still haven’t.
aef823@reddit
I wonder why he is quick to blame a specific demographic like he had first-hand experience of assassination attempts which is then proceeded by gloating and attempts to cause MORE attempts.
19Alexastias@reddit
The guy who tried to assassinate trump was a republican though - and I’ll bet you can’t point out a single democrat politician who did anything other than condemn that assassination attempt on trump.
aef823@reddit
And once more the redditor doesn't get it.
and once more I shall point and laugh.
hahahahhahahahhaahah.
Reap what you've sown, redditor.
19Alexastias@reddit
What are you even on about?
aef823@reddit
The sloptube redditor is somehow surprised their shit evidence is shit.
Then complains when he is made fun of.
Good job "groyper."
Stacksmchenry@reddit
The important thing in their world is that they yelled something, that's all that matters.
Also, they demand that the government, or really anyone besides themselves should help minorities and poor people, and that's just as good as helping them yourself.
I don't care about Kirk at all honestly, I dont consume political commentary for entertainment, but I do enjoy watching people fight about him
aef823@reddit
I literally didn't hear about the chucklefuck until he died.
Then I heard the whole "he's a nazi" spiel from the usual demographics, rolled my eyes, and literally watched one vid clip of him from his own source.
Oh look he wasn't a Nazi. And they're gloating about his death.
PrivilegeCheckmate@reddit
Innit funny how Congress voted not to release the Epstein files 3 hours after Kirk was shot?
I mean, just fucking laugh-out-loud funny, amirite?
JMACpegasus@reddit
You think the admin had him shot so they didn't have to release the files? Like , actually?
PrivilegeCheckmate@reddit
I think Congress used the media distraction to pass the legislation.
Successful-Flan-9763@reddit
cancel culture is also shooting a guy in the throat because his opinions upset you.
aef823@reddit
Then saying he's a Nazi because he can't say he isn't.
Then dance on his grave.
Then for some reason argue for days about the political leanings of the guy that killed him.
Then say you're the victim when the truth comes out for some reason????????
fuckitymcfuckfacejr@reddit
"because he can't say he isn't." You dumb, bro? People were calling that Nazi a Nazi for most of his adult life. You know, because of all the Nazi shit he promoted? Like how he was a huge proponent of using political violence to silence your enemies? Or his anti-immigrant rhetoric? Like, just all straight out of the Nazi playbook. I assure you, him being called a Nazi has nothing to do with him not being able to give bullshit non sequitor responses to try to deflect from the people calling him a Nazi.
LordSturm777@reddit
Lmao "if you don't want unlimited illegal immigration you are literally a Nazi"
You're in for a rude awakening when you realize literally every human being on Earth is what you think a Nazi is.
aef823@reddit
Aren't you supposed to be busy calling him a groyper, redditor?
Cuz it's obvious you're not busy looking through his vids to have a gauge of his actual opinion.
NoPossibility4178@reddit
"When I do it it's ok!"
"Mom! He did it first!"
"At least I don't pretend to be a good person."
Which one do you wanna pick?
DreamsServedSoft@reddit
conservatives by definition don’t change much. liberals are the ones changing the status quo, getting warned that it’s a worse normal, then screeching when it starts to affect them
ThirstyOutward@reddit
Conservatives change values week to week based on what Trump says lmao
massacre0520@reddit
What are you talking about, pedophilia has always been all the rage! Christian values baby
aef823@reddit
Is this the part where you guys say Epstein had right-wing parents?
NoPossibility4178@reddit
He sure had some interesting friends.
aef823@reddit
I wouldn't bring incest and showers into this topic, but please do go on "groyper."
kailethre@reddit
judeo-christian values*
TheSerpentLord@reddit
They're not even Conservatives, they're just assholes.
The US was founded on the idea of small government and state rights. That idea has been constantly eroding ever since Lincoln. You'd imagine an American Conservative would want to scale back Federal powers and stop the US from getting so involved overseas.
Not whatever cheap wanna-be Fascism Trump is LARPing as.
Winter_Low4661@reddit
That's because modern liberals and conservatives neither liberate nor conserve.
CumTrumpet@reddit
Woah woah woah.... Say that again?
Alive_Ad2841@reddit
Shut up Heinsenburg
19Alexastias@reddit
Sure, but the republicans are no longer conservatives. Trump is not a conservative by any definition.
lennstan@reddit
“mom! he did it first”
PrivilegeCheckmate@reddit
They'll just cycle until they think their position is unassailable from the pure Gish Gallop of all their specious fucking arguments.
aef823@reddit
Ah yes how shallow and pedantic mm yes
Eggdan@reddit
The n word is associated with years of slavery vs making fun of the death of one retaes
Barb0@reddit
The ole’ ‘speech is violence’ bit, eh?
camelyoga@reddit
speech can incite violence so yeah
beclops@reddit
No, that’s heavy cope. Unless you’re trying to say there’s a magical combination of words that force people to engage in violence you’re handwaving away personal accountability. Speech is speech, what happens after somebody hears speech is on them
camelyoga@reddit
no one deserves to die for their speech. you have to acknowledge that you don’t get to antagonize ppl over and over and expect nothing to happen to you
RedditIsAboutToDie@reddit
why are all leftists literally just the ideological embodiment of a meek deceptive woman? Thank God they’re also incapable of breeding in any significant number, otherwise I’d actually be worried about criminally insane retards this like.
camelyoga@reddit
are you slow or do you genuinely not know that the first amendment is abt govt intervention, not some random white, right winger taking you out 😭
RedditIsAboutToDie@reddit
lmao don’t worry bud, they’re getting a padded room ready for you. You’ll be safe there. The right winger with a trans girlfriend and antifa slogans engraved on his bullets won’t be able to hurt you there. He’s not real, and you’ll be okay. Just take your meds until they call you in.
camelyoga@reddit
proof they were even dating??
RedditIsAboutToDie@reddit
You weren’t concerned about factual accuracy but now you know want me to litigate the femininity of the suspect’s benis with you?
Sorry bud, I’ve got other things planned today.
camelyoga@reddit
so you made that shit up, got it
chanbr@reddit
Just out of curiosity, what evidence would you change your mind on?
camelyoga@reddit
evidence they were dating
RedditIsAboutToDie@reddit
Another guy posted evidence and didn't realize the 4chan sub nukes links. So:
the-sun dot com/news/15180899/charlie-kirk-shooter-tyler-robinson-transgender-partner
and later on Governor Cox confirmed to ABC's The Week that his partner had contacted them and was cooperating. He specifically mentioned that they were transitioning from male to female.
(you) tube /watch?v=4g25ihkEfng
He isn't cooperating himself, but his friends and family are talking.
I don't trust a vampire such as yourself to faithfully engage with Holy Water-esque substances such as evidence and logic though, so don't @ me honey.
camelyoga@reddit
meh, nazis have been known to have nonwhite girlfriends so
RedditIsAboutToDie@reddit
🤣 please tell you’re getting paid at least
camelyoga@reddit
RedditIsAboutToDie@reddit
Being worried that you might not be able to afford all those straws you’re grasping at has nothing to do with faithfully engaging with the topic.
Ignoring requested evidence by moving the goalposts - deflecting to improbable conclusions in the face of a torrent of evidence to the contrary - that is an example of bad faith engagement.
As for my insulting word choices… Do you know where you are?
camelyoga@reddit
if you’re gonna deny that nazis have been outed as having nonwhite gfs, we’re done here
RedditIsAboutToDie@reddit
why are you trying to discuss nazis and their girlfriends when the topic is a Leftist man with a trans girlfriend and Leftist/antifa slogans engraved on bullets that he shot another man with in cold blood because he didn’t like sounds coming out of his mouth.
A Leftist man that was likely spurred to action after listening to his fellow party members call other people with opinions they don’t like ‘fascist’ and ‘nazi’ while they also slyly suggest that because nazis are bad, nazis must die.
Sure yeah, nazis are bad, and yeah of course, some nazis are fake nazis with brown girlfriends, sure, we all know this, but that has nothing to do with anything regarding this Leftist man and his trans girlfriend.
In fact, there’s probably like 10,000 actual nazis even in america. Are you looking for a new boyfriend or something and having a hard time finding one? you seemed very concerned with the nazis girlfriend choices is all.
camelyoga@reddit
https://bylinetimes.com/2025/09/13/deadly-memes-tyler-robinsons-far-right-groyper-ties/
RedditIsAboutToDie@reddit
Do I need to go line by line through that article and hold your hand to point out exactly where and how it’s using innuendo and lies by omission to associate otherwise common knowledge, popular subjects, and widespread memes as “popular with the far right” all so they can bolster their claim that the shooter is a “right winger”?
Or can I just sum it up? I’m just gonna do that because I ain’t got time for a dissertation.
Everything they’re claiming that points to him being far right are also things that can point to him being… wait for it… American, male, below age 40, a redditor, a gamer, and probably a drinker of water too.
All the things I read in that article that they claim are “popular with the far right” seem to be things that are also just “popular with people”. To put it simply for you - what they are saying isn’t wrong, it’s what they aren’t saying that makes them wrong.
Why don’t you do some reading on this subject to see why they’re wrong. We have statements and information you can read from:
-his family
-his pastor
-his best friend
-his classmates
-his neighbors
-his text messages
-his discord messages
-his social media history
-the ammo casings
-the FBI
-the governor of Utah
-the president
-his own transgender boyfriend
That all say the same thing; he at one point was a normal kid who then went hard into Leftist politics.
camelyoga@reddit
they never said he’s a leftist, especially not his family. quit lying.
he wore the same tracksuit, did the same pose, and made the same smug smile as the pepe meme around the time groypers began using that as a coded signifier to others in their group. not a coincidence nor do leftists do that lol what are you on?
beclops@reddit
You should be able to expect not to be murdered in a functioning society, call me an idealist
RedditIsAboutToDie@reddit
Have your ideals considered ‘muh feelings’ though? I thought not. Try not to be so bigoted next time.
Dsingis@reddit
You mean like the glorification of murder and expressing hope that so-and-so is next?
camelyoga@reddit
like right wingers do when they use dogwhistles like “tnd”? when have you ever had this energy for them?
i’m not the one to play with
Kodyak@reddit
Years of slavery, so we use it on each other everyday but change one letter lmao
Gape_Me_Dad-e@reddit
Said it over 100 times a gaming session back in the day. My count was in the thousands back then. By the time I got into high school I was over my Nword phase. Funniest part is all my friends are black, I have black family and my adopted brother and sister were dark brown. I just said it because other people did and it made some people mad lmao.
Odinskriger@reddit
Goalpost: moved
That_Guy381@reddit
this never happened. did you just make something up to get angry about
havyng@reddit
It's made up le hecking redditors 👉🤓👈
That_Guy381@reddit
it is. facts don’t care about your feelings
havyng@reddit
Facts? Get the fuck out normie. You are not smarter using those magatards quotes
TruestNestor@reddit
not defending anyone, but this indeed did happen
That_Guy381@reddit
he was a managing partner at a bank? That’s not a 13 year old on cod.
TruestNestor@reddit
yes there have never been a documented case, nor has any formal case ever been brought forth against reddit user kodyak losing a job over the saying of a discriminatory, distasteful, unlawful racist slur while he was playing a multiplayer first-person shooting game called Call of Duty, of notable cultural penetration, "chatting" with other game players (whether the other player was of a dark skin is unknown) in a non-professional, non-academic setting - the interstitial period between game matches when the reddit user kodyak was 13 (thirteen) years old
because that makes world of a difference
That_Guy381@reddit
Yes, it makes a world of difference between firing someone for saying the N word in the office to a black man and a 13 year old on cod.
Kodyak@reddit
Of course it’s an exaggeration. Paula Deen and Jon Gruden are examples of essentially the same thing. I apologize deeply for giving a slightly embellished version of the truth
That_Guy381@reddit
Do you understand the difference between being a dick in a work environment as an adult versus a adolescent on call of duty?
Kodyak@reddit
Yes we should excuse the adolescent and the professionals celebrating a man’s death should be outed.
TruestNestor@reddit
Did you get raped when you were 13 years old in a cod lobby?
ToaKraka@reddit
There was that Nascar driver who lost a sponsorship because his father was racist.
That_Guy381@reddit
that’s not a 13 year old in cod lobby?
The_Elusive_Dr_Wu@reddit
Are you able to tell that this is an exaggerated fictional example?
If not: its an exaggerated fictional example
That_Guy381@reddit
if it were an actual problem you wouldn’t need to make things up lol
The_Elusive_Dr_Wu@reddit
Its still funny
That_Guy381@reddit
facts don’t care about your feelings
The_Elusive_Dr_Wu@reddit
what?
CutHerOff@reddit
That is a terrible example of a rich guy losing some dollars not a real person losing a job
Broddit205@reddit
“I don’t like rich people because I’m poor and suck”
CutHerOff@reddit
I assure you I’m not poor lmao crying for millionaires won’t make you one
Stationary_Wagon@reddit
It will make you someone with integrity and not a hypocrite though.
CutHerOff@reddit
Lmfao what the actual fuck are you talking about. I mean I know this sub is full of virgin fucking losers but try and form coherent sentences please. Or just find a rope idc
AzKondor@reddit
Didn't heard about it, is this about Conor Daly? Stupid, because the father was apologizing for it, but I see there wasn't really any uproar online/in the media, there wasn't protests and YouTube videos of leftoids wanting him to get fired. Sponsor company just didn't wanted to be connected to him, so, I guess, it's just capitalism. Also, he stills drives to this day, so it is hardly comparable to firing m
memefarius@reddit
Didn't they try to cancel Kevin Hart for a homophobic twitt from like a decade ago?
That_Guy381@reddit
I don’t know, I haven’t seen that. Kevin Hart is still a massive celebrity.
Still not a 13 year old in a cod lobby.
Throwaway-fruit-4445@reddit
What’s the point of internet if you can’t make up scenarios in your head and get mad?
Few-Frosting-4213@reddit
Make up scenarios in your head then pass it off as facts to get other people mad.
Denkoo@reddit
It happened last week to my buddy Mike.
omega552003@reddit
I heard about it on Discord from Abraham Lincoln, if you don't believe me ask Tony Stark, he was there too.
itsagrungething69@reddit
Yeah I remember when I got fired for that
Kodyak@reddit
Yeah but you were shouting it in the office when your stapler went missing :/
Firecoso@reddit
Cancel culture is what I don’t like
ahackercalled4chan@reddit
*slaps table *
THANK YOU.
this is not cancel culture. this is evil becoming its own undoing
georgia_is_best@reddit
These people forming the list are literally canceling people saying he shouldn't have died but he was an asshole. This is absolutely cancel culture. They're just mixing normal people with far left people on the list.
CMG_exe@reddit
Just a reminder that all of these Twitter mouthpiece dudes were literally the people wearing pantsuits and carrying briefcases to school that even the most wimpy AP kid would bully.
WhosCowsAreThey@reddit
I guarantee 90% of people posting about him never thought about him until the media painted him as a beacon of free speech. Add me to the database cuz I genuinely don’t care what happened to him, he was just some dude and people get shot every day in this country; he, by his own admission, is no exception and I highly doubt he’d care if I got shot.
Broddit205@reddit
Did you care about george floyd?
flyinchipmunk5@reddit
I like how you pretend that if you don’t care about Charlie Kirk then you must love George Floyd.
thezaland@reddit
Seriously, what the fuck is the obsession with Floyd??? Do people think leftists have Saint Floyd vigils in their homes or something lol
blax_prismic@reddit
typical buzzword arguments
mardavrio@reddit
I do
MediumRare-@reddit
Lmao so if someone doesn’t care about Kirk dying the must love Floyd? The internet has poisoned your mind
CocaineBearGrylls@reddit
Do I care that the police force can't just murder random people whenever they feel like it? Uhhh
_Empty-R_@reddit
state murder can be bad and george droyd can be one of the funniest memes in existence at the same time.
ReReReverie@reddit
No, who is that? Name sounds African american.is that the one who got kneed by the police?
SuperOriginalName23@reddit
Lol, you must be terminally online to bring up this take.
JumpingCicada@reddit
Nope, not everyone is an internet autist. Neither Floyd nor Charlie were making the world a better place. Neither are worthy of mourning either.
WhosCowsAreThey@reddit
My sentiment exactly
Crazy_Crayfish_@reddit
Holy based. This is my attitude. People die horribly every day, I’m not going to mourn one of thousands just because he’s semi famous
WhosCowsAreThey@reddit
I mean not personally no, but I can see why people found that video disturbing just like I can see why people thought Kirk’s was; but again, I’m not gonna waste my life crying over strangers who wouldn’t cry over me. Jesus it’s not hard
Philmecrakin@reddit
Why would anyone care about a career violent criminal that died of an overdose?
AvatarADEL@reddit
I care about him as much as I can use him in memes. So we can laugh at the left for glamorizing a felon drug addict.
AnotherScoutTrooper@reddit
I did for a brief time, and then people started burning down cities and killing people over him and I very quickly stopped caring
otoverstoverpt@reddit
almost like armed state enforcers are different than some random groyper
Herr_Sully@reddit
And it doesn't concern you at all what this means for our society? A man was murdered for his political opinion, and people are celebrating his death. Does it not even cross your mind how fucked up this is?
WhosCowsAreThey@reddit
Do you think this is the first time this has happened? Probably happens on a smaller scale way more than you realize. Also, all I’ve seen since is retaliatory threats so if we’re all gonna get bent up and start a civil war over some mouthy political grifter then we were probably too far gone long before this. Maybe we should’ve cared when it was 20 5th graders getting shot in the only developed country where this shit happens and we could’ve avoided the entire thing; but I happen to recall this very same dude calling that stuff a cultural problem and fighting tooth and nail to prevent any kind of safety measures from being taken so I guess cry me a river. I’ll say to again, I don’t care
ykzdropdead@reddit
fair enough, you are allowed to not care, as everyone is. But there's a big difference in not caring to celebrating it
Successful-Flan-9763@reddit
not caring is absolutely fine. celebrating a brutal political assassination is a big problem: what kind of society can exist when things like that are allowed by some? there are also those who have encouraged more political assassintions, for those it's clear why they need to be punished.
WhosCowsAreThey@reddit
I wouldn’t celebrate anyone’s death, but you’re tone deaf if you can’t see why some would
Successful-Flan-9763@reddit
how on earth am i the one being tone deaf in a conversation about people celebrating a brutal political assassination lmao. do you even hear yourself coping so hard?
WhosCowsAreThey@reddit
I think that calls coming from inside the house
ReReReverie@reddit
Same. I forgot who he was until I saw his face and thought "ah, it's him" then swiped away. Whatever he does is of no matter to me anyway as a non American.
Astofyak@reddit
shalom rabbi
WhosCowsAreThey@reddit
Fire up the menorah we’re having matzo tonight
thebigpink@reddit
90% of them have never heard of him until last week
WhosCowsAreThey@reddit
Exacrly
HyperHysteria13@reddit
Literally never heard of this dude until he died. All the sudden he's getting compared as the next MLK. But I agree, people are killed everyday, and yet this guy for some reason has been treated with more respect by a god loving political party than it does to its service members that sacrificed their lives for pointless bullshit for two decades and counting...
WhosCowsAreThey@reddit
Precisely
flyinchipmunk5@reddit
Because it’s a grift they have to show for the loyalty test
Successful-Flan-9763@reddit
nice schizo posting. i'm sure it's real.
CheeseyTriforce@reddit
I wouldn't have honestly cared much beyond just saying RIP if it wasn't for the fact that Leftists and Reddit have a serious problem with openly getting away with calls to and celebrating violence and are STILL doing it
While also trying to gaslight everyone into thinking the shooter was a MAGA, calling for more shootings, and these social media companies are still not even enforcing the rules on the left when the right gets shit for way less
And now somehow the left gets to cry victim of cancel culture because they gave the bare minimum consequences of posting they want to rape and murder his children online?
WhosCowsAreThey@reddit
Both sides do this
Glum_Engineering_671@reddit
1) these teachers willingly broke their contract 2) freedom of speech is not freedom of consequences, don't y'all love saying that? 3) If you believe someone should be killed for their opinions, Don't cry when you get fired for yours
Doyoulike4@reddit
The people who were actually threatening or implying that more should get shot, 100% deserve whatever happens. What I think is funny though is people are finding receipts that literally the same accounts posting memes like "Happy 5 years of sobriety to George Floyd", are now effectively shaking and crying and peeing themselves over not even the actually bad posts but just people making "What if Charlie Kirk's neck just did that?" posts are getting people trying to dox them and/or get them fired. It's really exposing some of these people as throwing stones from glass houses.
MediumRare-@reddit
Exactly, these people love dark humor until one of theirs is the target
right_lane_kang@reddit
IT'S DA J000000Z
DiabeticRhino97@reddit
I mean, am I supposed to cry for the poor leftists who were doing it for the last 10 years?
nullv@reddit
Getting cancelled for saying Charlie Kirk's chickens came home to roost and getting cancelled for saying the n word on twitter is an apples to oranges comparison.
DiabeticRhino97@reddit
There's no difference between the first and "she was asking it because of how she was dressed." Which would definitely get you fired
Petesaurus@reddit
There's a huge difference. Charlie Kirk's actual opinion was that gun deaths are a worthy price to pay for the 2nd amendment. If a woman's real opinion is that other women deserve to be assaulted for the way they dress, it would in fact be ironic if she were on the receiving end of said assault. Your version is not the same at all
horiami@reddit
he also said the deaths are unfortunate
Petesaurus@reddit
He also said that he doesn't believe in empathy. Do you think he felt any empathy for the victims?
horiami@reddit
Kinda weird people always leave put that he said he prefers sympathy but whatever
But yes i think he felt bad for the victims
Petesaurus@reddit
He actively worked towards a world where more mass shootings are happening
horiami@reddit
He thought that it was impossible to get gun deaths to 0, especially if you take away the second ammendment
The speech everyone is citing has him saying that we need realistic measures to lpwer gun deaths not utopic
You can disagree with his measures but that doesn't mean he should have been shot
Petesaurus@reddit
I'm not saying he should have been, he definitely should not have. It just aligned with his own principles is all. He did in no way attempt to push policies that would lower gun deaths
yetix007@reddit
No, it's not aligned with his views. His views were that murder was wrong, it's going to happen regardless of gun laws, and giving up your rights isn't the answer. It would be funny how warped this view you and many others hold is, if it wasn't for the existential dread the thought that you allowed to vote illicits.
Petesaurus@reddit
How do you explain the hundreds of countries where mass shootings aren't a problem?
yetix007@reddit
Are you familiar with the FBI crime statistics broken down by race or the racial makeup of other western nations with low gun deaths but high rates of ownership?
horiami@reddit
they have different scales, cultures, history, geography and populations
How do you plan to mold america to be like that ?
Petesaurus@reddit
Famously, all countries with low gun deaths have the same culture, geography and history. Incredible stuff
horiami@reddit
come on man, that's not what i said
can we not agree that america has a very unique culture and history ?
ykzdropdead@reddit
You don't fix a dumb idea with a dumber action.
Petesaurus@reddit
Kirk's assassination is not fixing anything at all. It is very ironic though
ykzdropdead@reddit
You don't fix a dumb idea with a dumber action.
SunshineThunder101@reddit
Explain how there is no difference
DiabeticRhino97@reddit
It's literally just victim blaming. Explain how they're not the same
SunshineThunder101@reddit
A rape victim didn't say that it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately some rapes every single year so that people can have sex consensually
DiabeticRhino97@reddit
Neither did he. What out of context quote you got next?
SunshineThunder101@reddit
He said that about gun deaths. A rape victim didn't say that about rape.
DiabeticRhino97@reddit
He literally didn't though. He said they were a reality, not a necessity.
SunshineThunder101@reddit
I never said necessity - if you can't engage without lying, just fuck right off
Kirk quote
"I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."
DiabeticRhino97@reddit
Even so, still textbook victim blaming
SunshineThunder101@reddit
You can say that all you like, it literally doesn't explain anything.
How is posting a quote of what Kirk said, victim blaming him?
He is the one who said when you have the right of the 2nd amendment, the reality is, is that there will be gun deaths.
Why would that mean he is excluded from being one of those gun deaths he believes are a reality in order to retain 2nd amendment rights?
DiabeticRhino97@reddit
Now you're just being obtuse. Obviously by bringing it up in the discussion of his death, the implication is that he deserved it somehow. Almost like victim blaming.
SunshineThunder101@reddit
People are bringing it up because he was totally fine with other innocent people he didn't know or care about being murdered, so he could own a gun.
The implication is that, by his own logic, by his very own words, he would have been okay with his own gun death because he believes some gun deaths are an acceptable cost.
It's clear I don't agree with the statement he made, but do you agree with the statement he made?
DocMcsquirtin@reddit
“Nuh uh after he said that a force field appeared around him so bullets just ricochet off!”
It’s like a kid telling you he didn’t get tagged because he froze you with ice powers or some bullshit.
TehSteak@reddit
Apples and oranges are both fruit
Successful-Flan-9763@reddit
justifying a political assassination by someone's opinions should have you punished irl. i have reported you and encourage everybody to do so, and with a little bit of luck the right authorities will come know on your door.
maxwellsearcy@reddit
No, cry for the right wing that's been doing it since they founded Plymouth Colony. This one will fail too. You can't cancel progress, bucko.
TonberryMotor@reddit
Seems pretty effective so far tbh, what even is "progress" in this moment?
maxwellsearcy@reddit
lol. You think it's "effective?" K. So was the Bud Light boycott. Target, too. And M&Ms. And Disney. And Lowe's. And Coca-Cola. And Keurig. Those brands are really struggling.
TonberryMotor@reddit
Whatever you gotta tell yourself, weren't leftys the one boycotting Target, btw?
If we're going off effective boycotts nobody has a win in the last decade, the left included.
I was referring to the sheer amount of firings over this, they even got that ungodly abomination Gretchen Felker. Use caution if you look her up, it's not
maxwellsearcy@reddit
Didn't Ivanka Trump's fashion line dissolve bc of boycotts? Also, the NRA lost basically all of its major consumer sponsors including airlines, hotels, all the car rental companies, etc. 🤷
IDK if that's considered a win, but also, the right-wing boycotts seemed to have done some stuff, too. Pretty much every major boycott they jump into works to make racism allowed at work again. Seems like most companies like doing racism tbh.
maxwellsearcy@reddit
Target was boycotted in 2023 by right-wing groups bc they celebrate pride. They're being boycotted by some liberal groups bc of eliminating DEI, but I don't know any leftist groups specifically boycotting them rn.
Personally, I think this is a great excuse for companies to part ways with people who are pro-Palestine without seeming like they're "taking sides" on that much more controversial issue. I would be interested to see anyone who was fired for saying something about Kirk that didn't also speak out against the Israeli genocide.
CheeseyTriforce@reddit
Progress is when you shoot a guy in the throat in front of his young kids for his opinion then hop on Reddit to call for killing the young kids too
s-josten@reddit
Yes, these seem like the same thing.
maxwellsearcy@reddit
How about the original conservative "cancelling."
Key_Disk_2751@reddit
maxwellsearcy@reddit
Unironically, yes. You should feel dumb for not paying attention in school.
s-josten@reddit
Bait used to have at least a little subtlety.
maxwellsearcy@reddit
Gum used to be chewier.
ykzdropdead@reddit
Why are you invoking events from 500 fucking years ago? This is literally manipulative girlfriend shit
We are a different society. Different laws are established. Most things that were once wrong are now corrected. If you preach religious freedom today nobody is going to shoot you, you fucking retard.
s-josten@reddit
Play puritan games win puritan prizes
maxwellsearcy@reddit
I'm sorry, maybe I'm confused. You think... the left are playing Puritan games?
s-josten@reddit
The guy in the 1600s, whose Wikipedia page was just linked, was a puritan minister.
maxwellsearcy@reddit
Correct. He was cancelled bc of questioning their traditions. Did you not learn about this in school?
LilFuniAZNBoi@reddit
Idk man, I went to school like 20 years ago, so he might have been a footnote or something, but you're expecting people to recognize his name like he was Thomas Edison or something.
Did you learn about him in school, or did you hear about him from some Left-leaning YouTuber complaining about the Right trying to cancel people?
maxwellsearcy@reddit
I'm not expecting anyone to know his name off the dome, but I would expect someone to remember that the Puritans kicked a dude out of society who then went on to found Rhode Island when I mention it!
I didn't have "Roger Williams" locked down in my mind and know his whole fuckin autobiography, but because I'm not some ignorant mouth-breather, I remember my high school APUSH class from 2009, and as soon as someone tried to claim that "the left" invented cancel culture, my brain went "Wait... didn't the Puritans (who were extremely about about all the same shit that modern fundie rightwingers are about) actually cancel a guy so hard that he founded another separate state?" So then I googled "Puritans kicked out" and read the story again.
Puritanical literally means being strictly religious and moral. Isn't the whole ostensible problem with the left that "they've strayed from traditional Christian morals?" That's the opposite of Puritanism...
Y'know... the way remembering things works?
Defective_Falafel@reddit
The left wing cancel culture wave of the 2010s is rooted in the same spiritual mindset that carried the right wing cancel culture waves of the 80s and 90s.
maxwellsearcy@reddit
Is it, though?
GreedySignature3966@reddit
It's rooted in the American urge to appear more holy than the other people.
demonryder@reddit
No one was more holey than Kirk on that day, a true American.
ReallyTeddyRoosevelt@reddit
Progressives absolutely are puritans, that's why everyone in real life hates them. They are canceling comedy shows ffs. I'm not sure what better comparison to 20th century Republicans you can get.
Puzzled-Letterhead-1@reddit
Absolutely. The most sanctimonious people of all time. Hence where the term virtue signaling came into use to describe
maxwellsearcy@reddit
You're saying they're alike in that they're hypocrites? Hypocrisy is a universal human trait. It's not unique to a political ideology.
InquisitorMeow@reddit
Lol ok so now we are gaslighting that cancel culture only targeted jokes made 15 years ago. All those racists caught on camera that gets fired or actors saying racist shit and getting cancelled was totally because of their 5th grade blackface.
ZMowlcher@reddit
No one got fired when that senator was murdered.
Herr_Sully@reddit
Looks like the site is down already
bmcgowan89@reddit
I, for one, am a huge fan of impotent rage - it's been a banner week 😂
Just meltdowns
OmgJustLetMeExist@reddit
Impotent Rage? The liberal superhero from GTA?
joker_toker28@reddit
Irl is so much wilder and funny than any comedy.
Lord we claim to be the apex lmfao.
Status-Position-8678@reddit
Seeing people from all walks of life seethe and cope is genuinely the most entertaining thing on this Earth
positivelypolitical@reddit
Jimmies are being rustled like it’s another harambe
All_Hall0ws_Eve@reddit
A little different being canceled for an opinion and be canceled for glorifying violence and death
Ira_Glass_Pitbull_@reddit
Conservatives: i dislike cancel culture, we need to be able to disagree without you exploiting the metagame here to ruin my life
Leftists: no, how about you get fired and blacklisted for disagreeing with riots
~some time passes~
Leftists: THIS ISN'T FAIR, WHAT ABOUT YOUR PRINCIPLES????
maxwellsearcy@reddit
Actual conservatives: "Let's literally make it illegal to sell houses to people based on their skin color."
AttentionRudeX@reddit
If only
maxwellsearcy@reddit
Tf do you mean "if only?" That's reality. Redlining is happening currently.
Ira_Glass_Pitbull_@reddit
No it's not. Redlining was fake in the past as well. Most "redlined" people, by a huge margin, were white. Muh redlining was always just banks making rational decisions about investment and credit.
maxwellsearcy@reddit
They're not going to let y'all have chattel slavery back no matter how much you whine, sorry. 🤷
Ira_Glass_Pitbull_@reddit
14 year old account that's really in to Modest Mouse
maxwellsearcy@reddit
lol. Person who can read.
Ginxchan@reddit
You mean my black latina wife cant buy any house she wants? Shucks
CustardBoy@reddit
Hypocrisy aside, it's really dumb to say something on publicly identifiable accounts that could get you fired. Why did everyone start thinking that not being anonymous anymore on the internet was a good idea?
Ira_Glass_Pitbull_@reddit
Wait until you see admitting on social media you were involved in a murder conspiracy
https://freebeacon.com/politics/exclusive-fbi-investigating-social-media-accounts-that-appeared-to-indicate-foreknowledge-of-kirk-assassination/
LilFuniAZNBoi@reddit
Well, a few of the spicy Tweets I saw were on sites like BlueSky, so I assume they thought they were in a safe space for their echo chamber.
Or they thought they didn't have friends/followers on their social media profile who would have taken offense to what they said, another issue of living in an echo chamber.
blizmd@reddit
Because they exist in echo chambers and believe that almost everyone feels the same way they feel
chanbr@reddit
Yeah that's the issue I come into. I strongly disagree with using the government levers to punish people, that's not okay at all especially if it's a stupid, probably mid, dark joke, but some people are just saying the most insane shit with their whole chest (and company and name) right there. At least the alt-right learned proper op-sec.
lobotominizer@reddit
"Wait...canceling could cancel us..?"
AgentSkidMarks@reddit
There's definitely a double standard to be careful of here, but in the case of educators and school counselors, they are held to a higher standard because they need to maintain community trust. Parents trust their children in their care and if they are celebrating the death of a guy over differences in political opinions, well that ruins the trust of about 50% of the parents. Can parents trust that you will treat their children fairly and give them an adequate education even if their parents believe differently than you? Can they trust that you won't make efforts to indoctrinate their children with values that are inconsistent with what they believe in their household?
Another concern would be with healthcare providers. If you are publicly commenting that someone deserved to die because of their political opinion, how can you be trusted to feel any different if a conservative rolls into your emergency room. If you have a guy on your operating table who showed up in a MAGA hat, can you be trusted to give them the best care possible, or do they deserve to die too?
PapierStuka@reddit
Right wing embracing cancel culture, left wing celebrating public assassinations, water under the bridge
Having principles and adhering to them is so last century
FeuledByCaffeine@reddit
Huh almost as if everyone does everything and all of these moral high grounds are completely baseless.
Substantial_Vast4891@reddit
Can't get mad at the standards one side started. It must suck losing your career because you are so full of hate. Oh well you won't guilt people into not exposing extremist trash. They started the whole doxxing bs, I would probably care if trash people didn't attempt to dox me, luckily my friend owns the business and just laughed at the losers. Oh well remember all you want, i remember leftists starting with doxxing
Stewapalooza@reddit
It's going to be wild when they find themselves in that search. The internet is forever!
Sifl-and-Olly@reddit
GeTtInG FiReD FoR BeInG aN AsShOlE DoEsNt MeAn YoU wErE CaNcElLeD!!!!!!!!!
RealGorgonFreeman@reddit
There’s a difference between trying to ruin someone’s livelihood because they won’t use your pronouns versus celebrating someone assassination.
Kaneida@reddit
Everyone needs to remember that this and similar tools can be used against themselves.
MainEnAcier@reddit
Good idea, so they will taste their own cuisine for once.
zoltronzero@reddit
Lmfao "political violence can never be the answer so we are compiling a list of people we disagree with politically that we would like violence done to"
closedshop@reddit
If the rule you followed led you to this, of what use was the rule?
DOE_ZELF_NORMAAL@reddit
How is that cancel culture? Cancel culture is firing someone because they dressed up as an indian when they were 7.
ZioBenny97@reddit
Boy, turns out that the "Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences" crowd doesn't like sticking to their own values either lmao
Sealssssss@reddit
Losing your main sponsorship cause your dad said a no no word 40 years ago versus losing your job for saying you’re glad a political figure died.
Wow they really are the exact same, there’s no nuance here at all.
SlySychoGamer@reddit
Doxxing has been fair game for years at this point.
If right wing started killing lefties with guns, you think lefties won't start using guns too?
Hotdogman_unleashed@reddit
And just like that they became the liberal they hated
Of course I can appreciate that they resort to these tactics. If your opponent takes out a knife it wouldn't be wise to continue fistfighting.
ykzdropdead@reddit
Two wrongs indeed doesn't make one right. But goddamn it, it's funny when somebody tastes their own poison
Sleeping_Goliath@reddit
mookyvon@reddit
When did 4chan turn leftoid? The fuck?
McRoddit@reddit
4chan is counter-culture. They do the opposite of what everyone else is doing.
FoxCQC@reddit
It's always been a mix.
jf61117@reddit
Stop noticing, be a good mensch and ignore the fact that this sub’s sentiment does a complete 180 every election cycle and when worldwide political news breaks.
Dark_Matter_Guy@reddit
It's only as if different individuals have different opinions, what a strange thing.
jf61117@reddit
Wow, what a substantive insightful comment. This glowie must get paid per reply.
Charming_Advice8805@reddit
Maybe nobody cares about your gay chud influencer?
mookyvon@reddit
The psyop from this sub is crazy. Everything is fucking orchestrated.
LilFuniAZNBoi@reddit
This is r/4chan, so it still has the liberal Reddit vibes. Normal 4chan never had a side; it was more "let me be a contrarian".
GreedySignature3966@reddit
When the jannies started bunning to the wrong thinking. Just as in any other place.
Charming_Advice8805@reddit
TruestNestor@reddit
after youtube shorts users found it
soapy5@reddit
transmissions are too scared to be seen in public so they infest reddit and 4ch
Taki32@reddit
They set the rules for the engagement. Good luck to them.
Wild_Walrus_7983@reddit
'Oh no, tit for our +20 years of tat, that came out of nowhere!~' whining about double standards loses any raal meaning or valisity when its from people with zero values or intellectual integrity.
droogvertical@reddit
Noooo you can’t use our tactics against us its not fair what about your principles that we make up and apply to you?
Anser_Galapagos@reddit
As if righties ever had values in the first place
FreelancerFL@reddit
The *right* is just using leftist tactics against them, and I don't blame them. I forget where I heard it but it was way before this shit happened and now I'm seeing it everywhere but:
"Honor has no use to the dead, why fight a dishonorable opponent at a disadvantage?" - more or less what they're saying now
So yeah, makes sense. Regardless Israel has successfully baited both wings of the cuck bird and now they'll turn a blind eye to our greatest ally.
hmm_very_interesting@reddit
Just think of it as the Right role-playing as cancel culture Left. Weird how nobody wants to play now.
Hard to have sympathy when we've had a decade of the Left getting people fired for things like...checks notes....making an ok hand gesture.
C293d@reddit
r professors is melting down in real time over cancel culture being on the other foot now. They are struggling to make sense of it, like the victims of a bad traffic accident. LMAO.
FarRightBerniSanders@reddit
"You can't CANCEL people for just calling for, enacting, and celebrating violence against people that just believe what you believe. That's literally what the LIBS are doing!1"
Retarded.
Mentally__Disabled@reddit
No no, remember he only got killed for speaking. He was literally an innocent man. And a father!
Better-Inflation4235@reddit
Cancel culture is so back 🗣️
Sammy_Socrates@reddit
Good. They need to be on FBI watch list as well. Scum of the earth.
realDespond@reddit
bet they're all going to turn out to be russian and chinese accounts
Smokingcigss@reddit
Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of consequences. Y'all liberals keep repeating it, but now u forgot what it means?
KennKennyKenKen@reddit
Didn't Charlie Kirk believe in freedom of speech.
The_real_bandito@reddit
what values?
original_name125@reddit
Losing your job for slightly offensive things you said online and celebrating a murder of a person who didn't deserve it are in no way comparable.
ReReReverie@reddit
So someone has to clarify. Which is the left and which is the right. And why are they called as such?
GoldenPresidio@reddit
A searchable database? Are we supposed to trust a random website? They could make any shit up. Unless there is a verified social media account from a person that has claimed in person the account belongs to them, all do this can be bullshit
Anybody can make an account with anybody’s name
This website can fake screenshots of anybody
Y’all should not be promoting this buklshit
SDcowboy82@reddit
The thing about conservatives is they can only ever argue in bad faith because their good faith arguments of “we should live according to this rule book for Iron Age goat herders” has 5% approval
Alive_Ad2841@reddit
Nah I think the little left snowflakes are just upset they’re being called out for their disgusting behaviour lol it’s all coming apart
Erff_barbasol@reddit
"cancel culture" theres a difference between saying the n word 10 years ago and cheering on someones death 10 seconds ago
Panhead09@reddit
There's a difference between deplatforming people for saying there are only two genders, and deterring people from encouraging/inciting murder.
Hope this helps 👍🏼
AmbitionOfPhilipJFry@reddit
Great. Now do a searchable database site for the Epstein files by offender age, location, profession, name, and office if a public figure.
crappypostsfromhell@reddit
it's really a turning point when you get your tactics used against you isn't it?
___mithrandir_@reddit
Oh no people are upset I laughed at a man being murdered in front of his wife and children after 10 years of my psycho ideology advocating for this very thing, this is definitely the same thing as getting someone fired for saving the n word in a COD lobby in 2009
DixieNormas011@reddit
Idk,, people seem too be mad they're just finally using the same playbook their opponents have been using for a decade.
There's no freedom of consequence in the constitution right libs? That's what yall have been saying for years now.
OpenSourcePenguin@reddit
What values? It was always a front for "don't hurt my fewings"
Anti-social_Hermit@reddit
Idgaf but when a demonic liberal is gleeful over death i get pissed. Anyone who celebrates the death of a decent person deserves it.
BrentHolland78@reddit
Wait I thought 4chan died?
Madlyfylingcows@reddit
The problem is the left has a melt down and cancels people over usually petty things and the right just moves on. The right is pissed off now because no matter where you go on the internet there’s millions of lefties praising his death and jumping for joy. Massive difference. Honestly unbelievable to see and only leftists don’t see it. Everyone who isn’t a leftist extremist is seeing this and is horrified. It’s not playing well for them at all. My fear now is that some of the hate I’m seeing on the right may turn into violence and then it’s over at that point.
Christoph3r@reddit
Are all these angry people making videos on TikTok saying how they're gonna fight back and want revenge getting their guns ready to go hunting white male pro-gun Republicans now?
Or were they just full of shit when they said those things...
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
Mad leaf
Typical_Response_950@reddit
Donald Trump pardoned the Jan 6th rioters because he supports violence against liberals. Conservatives still supported Donald Trump after because they support his support of violence against liberals. Charlie Kirk was conservative. So if I cheer Charlie Kirk being murdered by a mormon dweeb then I'm just cheering the death of someone that supported violence against me. Now, if you're thinking "but doesn't that mean you'd cheer all conservatives being murdered??".......well, i didn't invent deductive reasoning. And I'm certainly not responsible for conservatives believing the things they do.
Alamasy@reddit
I bullet in the neck is never cancel culture.
hoodwink77@reddit
Wait, a pendulum swings both ways?!
Mama_Mega@reddit
Left wing journalists literally tried to subvert democracy by creating a database of every single person that voted for Trump in 2016. I don't approve of either action, but that's the thing, this is what it has become. Let these mfs face the consequences of the very same kind of thing they supported.
tehringworm@reddit
Source?
Equal-Change9509@reddit
Werent they getting people fired from their jobs for stuff they said online 10 years ago till yesterday?
Mierdo01@reddit
I think OOP has no clue what cancel culture is
bublore@reddit
There are no principles, there is only red vs blue while the same policies continue unabated.
fatfuck5@reddit
Holy fuck I want that pic 🤣
Dick__Marathon@reddit
What I can't get over is the amount of talking past each other that I've been seeing.
I know generalization is nothing new in this sphere but the number of times I've seen "all democrats think " or "all Republicans think " in regards to this murder makes me a little sick. Like, here I am, feeling that Charlie Kirk didn't deserve to die, but neither did Melissa Hortman. People generally don't deserve to die for the things they say or believe. But the vast online discourse pretends that I and people that think similarly just don't exist
lastmanonreddit@reddit
When did Reddit take over 4chan? It’s gone soft like a lefty shit
Early-Journalist-14@reddit
The left had 10 years of us not retaliating to get it out of their system.
since that doesn't seem to work, it's now time to join them in the mud.
the gloves are off. simple as.
malfurion1337@reddit
lmao right wingers "thowing away their values, principles and credibility", like what? the values and principles of being grifters who suck 1% rich oligarch cock and cut healthcare and pension for elderly? those seem just as intact as always
kaninkanon@reddit
Values and principles? Right wingers?
NuclearOrangeCat@reddit
actually I'm pretty sure him figuring out last 48 hours most problems point to Israel is what got him shot...
pafreethinker@reddit
I don't care fire them all
Charming_Pirate@reddit
The right wing always loves to call the left hypocrites, the but difference is we celebrate the death of fascism, they celebrate the death of little girls in Palestine.
Maniac523@reddit
Your side just murdered someone for having different beliefs and holding debates about it. You are the fascists.
Charming_Pirate@reddit
It’s not like there’s only two teams and two sets of beliefs. These people are spreading hatred that indoctrinates people and lobbies their bollocks to become law. It’s the same thing the Nazis did and I’m not sure that was harmless tbh
CustardBoy@reddit
Are you calling the person you replied to a groyper?
Maniac523@reddit
I'm calling them an idiot.
TonberryMotor@reddit
my side good, your side bad fantastic argument my friend.
inventingnothing@reddit
The left cancels people for saying there are two genders.
The right cancels people for celebrating a political assassination and calls for even more violence.
We are not the same.
Philmecrakin@reddit
Lmao people are so fucking retarded. This shits different than finding out someone said a joke 10 years ago and trying to get them fired. All these losers have is lies and false equivalencies.
Cuplike@reddit
Didn't they already do this with the Palestine protests lol
Neijx@reddit
People got Karen’d for so long, they’re trying to Karen them back and now they’re mad lol
cgrizle@reddit
I've had plenty of liberals on this site tell me that cancel culture is a alt right conspiracy theory, and if it does happen, it's only republicans that do it. Both sides are retarded
CheeseyTriforce@reddit
"You can't just fire me for post a hit list of people I want to have murdered
You can only fire people over things they said when they were 7 years old" -The actual state of the Democrat Party right now
Nowornevernow12@reddit
Americans are cowards
Sharky-Li@reddit
Nobody even noticed but there was also a school shooting Evergreen CO the same day. I think the shooter was also a 4channer too.
retsoPtiH@reddit
so should non-US citizens ramp up the party about his death to compensate?
why would any non-US company care?
Drafonni@reddit
False equivalence
Lain-J@reddit
People were getting canceled out of careers in tech and Hollywood and other leftwing industies, banned on social media and even debanked.
99% of these 20k will be back in a teaching job or something eles before the unemployment even runs out.
Arrival_Joker@reddit
Yeah. Whatever. Where's the Epstein list
naked_short@reddit
Creating a database of people celebrating the murder of innocent people for political motives is totally the same as ruining peoples’ lives for saying no-no words on the internet.
Bricc_Enjoyer@reddit
Cancel culture was people going "Noooo You have different values to me! You dont think that himalayan trans mountain goats are the most oppressed!!"
Now people are celebrating a death of someone who wanted to bridge the very divided sides by talking, on THEIR turf about THEIR issues. Multiple times before groups formed and heckled him, refusing to talk. And now he was, after just having talked, assassinated.
Yeah, I really wonder WHY people are canceling them now. If this doesn't cause an even bigger civil divide or worse, I'd be surprised
Astolfo-Best-Girl@reddit
radarmy@reddit
Fun to see the conservative sub talking about how the shooter was a "reddit loser" as though we are not all reddit losers.
Some_Random_Guy_1138@reddit
but someones said he had an account on 4chan
radarmy@reddit
Exactly
joker_toker28@reddit
Blah blah this list dammit.
Don't let it distract you ppl.
MidnightSeattle@reddit
This action if done and gets people fired from their livelihoods totally wouldn’t radicalize people
/s
AnotherScoutTrooper@reddit
Remember when the left did this because a couple of gaming streamers got paid to play Hogwarts Legacy
joausj@reddit
It's not like the Republicans had some moral issue with canceling people, they were against it cause they kept on getting canceled.
maxwellsearcy@reddit
Yeah, conservatives literally invented it in the US. They're just not very good at doing it.
Kaneida@reddit
This isn't cancel culture, this is accountability culture.
Yorkshiregrow@reddit
What I've found is they're legit the biggest hypocrites
SunderedValley@reddit
Glowing Post
Zesty-Lem0n@reddit
Seeing conservatives cry and scream is genuinely the 2016 election equivalent moment for the liberals. All the "liberal tears" shit is 1000x funnier knowing that these people are just as thin skinned.
gh04t@reddit
Cant wait for someone to search what evil things little Bobby tables has done
Achrus@reddit
Lmao I had the same thought. The domain is registered to an address in Iceland: “Kalkofnsvegur 2, Reykjavik, Capital Region, 101”. The address is associated with “Withheld for Privacy,” a company linked to a bunch of sketchy sites: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/business/iceland-online-disinformation-identity-theft.html
So whoever set it up knows what they are doing on the tech side I would imagine.
PresentContest1634@reddit
Starra-@reddit
SO BASED THANK GOD FINALLY.
THE LIST JUST GOT 10Ft HIGHEr
mookyvon@reddit
When did 4chan turn leftoid? The fuck?
EroGG@reddit
I thought you lefties didn't want freedom from consequences. Enjoy the consequences bitches.
IrregularrAF@reddit
They’re angry over a guy they didn’t even know existed 90% of the time.
__Sentient_Fedora__@reddit
Actions still have consequences.
Woodland_Abrams@reddit
The party of small government actively cheering on the development of a government contracted super database
Gary-Clampton@reddit
This literally happened in south park
dagobert-dogburglar@reddit
>Throwing away
They havent had any for years.
Ooofisa4letterword@reddit
It’s hard not to use such powerful tools when you’re in charge. It takes an honorable and rational person to dismantle that apparatus whine in power.
smeely7t63@reddit
"Values, principles and credibility" there's no point in this "high road" mentality.
stiffmilk@reddit
Isnt this a for of political retribution? Anybody sees this asalto being political violence? Lmao, people are reGarded.
AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit
They're only sad beucause theres nobody left to parrot their opinions.
a-person-who-lurks@reddit
They never really had any principles tbh
frat-brother@reddit
It shouldn't be about party politics. It's class consciousness now. Fuck billionaires, fuck the people who live lives unfathomable to the average citizen without a second thought. They deserve to die. Bring back the guillotine.