ULPT Request: How do we get homeless people to stop literally camping in our dumpster at work without hurting them?

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PenaltyElectronic318@reddit

Sound aversion. Get earplugs and play an ongoing high pitched sound. A few convenience stores in my area have done it to deter camps, and it seems to work.

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Kittens-N-Books@reddit (OP)

I'll bring it up with my manager. He's trying to find an excuse to shoot them and I keep having to explain that no, you can't just shoot people for being annoying.

Maybe a Bluetooth speaker or CD player tossed onto the roof?

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zbeezle@reddit

There's a thing called the Blue Chirper specifically for this.

Its got a proximity sensor that causes it to emit a high pitched chirp sound and a bright blue strobe light. Isn't harmful, but it makes it annoying to remain there for more than a minute or so. If you're just going out to throw stuff into the dumpster occasionally, then you'll be fine, but anyone trying to hang out back there will probably move on to an area that doesn't have a flashing blue light and an annoying sound.

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ceciliabee@reddit

Oh cool your manager is a monster. We saw recently that people who promote and endorse gun violence might end up as victims of gun violence themselves. He should be careful

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UnethicalLifeProTips-ModTeam@reddit

Your post or comment was removed for violating rule 12: No politics.

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Frequent_Policy8575@reddit

I can tell you what the convenience stores along the interstate do here.

It’s 3 things I’ve seen:

UV / black light as the only source of light there at night. The idea is that if they’re trying to shoot up, that will make it harder to find a vein.
Play a lot of classical music on loop in the area so it’s hard to avoid. They’ll likely find it annoying trying to be there all the time but it’s not too awful for customers that are coming and going.
A “broken” light in the area that acts like a really bright irregular strobe light so it’s hard to become accustomed to. Effective but super annoying and makes it look like you don’t maintain your space.

I’ve seen people keep security guards around but even customers don’t like cops.

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WearyCarrot@reddit

Isn’t #1 harmful? I guess it doesn’t really matter lmao. How did the other stores mount the lights?

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skip737@reddit

In many neighborhoods around pittsburgh in areas known for drug use, and damn near all dollar general parking lots, they’re using the uv lights to make finding veins very difficult.

People started getting so used to them that when PennDOT got a bad batch of streetlights being used for highways where their coating got damaged and turned the lights blue-ish, everyone just assumed they were trying to keep drugs off the highways too 🤦🏻‍♂️

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Frequent_Policy8575@reddit

I mean … unethical right?

No idea about mounting details unfortunately.

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PenaltyElectronic318@reddit

Pretty much all of this is unethical. The problem is ethical means are shit at addressing the situation.

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Wheatiez@reddit

What’s more harmful? Allowing someone to possibly OD at your store or to discourage them from using drugs?

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ShrimpSherbet@reddit

Like actually shoot them!? Call the cops on his ass

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Kittens-N-Books@reddit (OP)

He's worried for staff safety- these people are severely unwell. We had one murder someone a few weeks back, though not on store property- a coworker caught the aftermath and cleanup walking to work.

Most of them are perfectly safe to be around but it only takes one person having a bad day to fuck someone up.

Like I grew up with this sort of crazy so in very skilled at handling it but I can see how it can be frightening if you aren't skilled at wrangling these folk.

He's the unfortunate perfect storm of genuinely concerned and misinformed (He legitimately thinks it's legal to shoot people in your yard and who are ringing your doorbell) for a disaster but no one will do anything unless he actively commits a crime beyond threats

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Klashus@reddit

Could try bleach or something smell like fox piss.

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Camperthedog@reddit

Spray it with bear spray or ammonia, the smell will be brutal.

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beachbum818@reddit

contact the dumpster company and ask for a dumpster with a lock. THere's dumpsters with 2 metal loops and a pipe will slide through 1 loop, across the lids and into the other loop. THere's a hole in the pipe with a lock on 1 side and a welded T piece on the other so you cant slide it out.

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OKcomputer1996@reddit

I am a lawyer. That is a great way to catch a wrongful death lawsuit and possibly a murder case.

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beachbum818@reddit

Locking them out of the dumpster? How do mr lawyer?

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OKcomputer1996@reddit

Isn't it also possible for someone to be trapped inside? That was my understanding.

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Up2nogud13@reddit

Yes, it's possible. If you put a blind guy in charge of locking it.

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OKcomputer1996@reddit

Or a careless guy. Or a psycho guy.

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re_nonsequiturs@reddit

How is that different than the risk from emptying the dumpster into a truck?

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OKcomputer1996@reddit

I am a lawyer. I see it like a tragedy waiting to happen given the locking mechanism. Trust. If such a lawsuit doesn't already exist it will eventually.

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beachbum818@reddit

It gets delivered with the bar in place, you put your lock on the bar and call it a day. You thought it gets delivered with someone inside? What kind of law do you practice? Bird law?

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VoidWalker4Lyfe@reddit

Make sure there's no one in it when you lock it. Lock it when it gets there, then unlock it when you throw trash in it and lock it back up. It's really easy to figure out.

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alldressed_chip@reddit

this is the most humane solution imo

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SlenderLlama@reddit

Only if you make sure they’re not in there before you lock it ofc.

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ErgonomicZero@reddit

Agreed, best way to keep those hobos locked up

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rossms16030@reddit

And likely the most effective

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Druidicflow@reddit

Lock it while they’re inside

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Kirbyr98@reddit

Brian Kilmeade?

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Revolutionary-Half-3@reddit

If it's your dumpster, consider upgrading to a bear resistant model.

Otherwise, an industrial vibrator attached underneath where they can't easily get at it, and a timed motion sensor. Give them time to get situated, then turn up the bass until that dumpster is running in horizontal mode across the alley.

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HBMart@reddit

I’m not sure I wanna Google “industrial vibrator.”

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Revolutionary-Half-3@reddit

I'd, uh, just check McMaster-Carr's catalog. Safer than any Google results, Safe search or no.

They're often used for materials handling, to keep things from clogging. Dry good chutes, hoppers, etc.

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ChiknBreast@reddit

Douse the inside of the dumpster with fart spray

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Apprehensive_Hat8986@reddit

It's a dumpster, which already contains organics. A little perfume isn't going to make things worse.

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ChiknBreast@reddit

Ive smelled some nasty dumpsters. I've also smelled fart spray before.

I could be wrong, but my guess is that you have not smelled the latter.

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HBMart@reddit

Fart spray is like raw sewage magnified. It’s worse than a dumpster for sure.

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youcantseeme0_0@reddit

Garden hose and spray down the contents. Even if they are willing to pull out wet garbage, they won't be able to camp in an inch of standing dumpster water.

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Kittens-N-Books@reddit (OP)

They tore off the lid on the dumpster. It already has water in it from rain.

I think they need inpatient treatment because something is wrong their but, you know, that requires the city to do their jobs

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HBMart@reddit

What if you called 911 and reported someone is unwell and needs medical attention? That might get them into a hospital rather than jail.

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stabbingrabbit@reddit

They probably have done their job multiple times. But you can't force people into rehab or mental treatment.

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Shoddy_Option_8385@reddit

Involuntary commitment is a thing

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stabbingrabbit@reddit

Only till they are deemed not a threat to themselves or others.

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Shoddy_Option_8385@reddit

Well I’d say based off of OP’s post they are a threat to themselves.

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stabbingrabbit@reddit

Living dangerously is different than suicidal.

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Shoddy_Option_8385@reddit

criteria for involuntary commitment require proof of imminent danger to self or others due to mental illness.

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Klashus@reddit

Im in the country but we have steel lids for bears you can get from the garbage company. Then chian it down jist call and tell them what is up.

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Kittens-N-Books@reddit (OP)

One of them has access to power tools or a good lock cutter because every lock gets destroyed

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Temeriki@reddit

Most locks are relatively easy to open. See the lock picking lawyer. Many master locks can be opened by banging them the right way.

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Kittens-N-Books@reddit (OP)

Nevermind they have literally ripped m the handles off the front door to the building over the weekend, that might just be drug fueled strength or something

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EmergencyGrocery3238@reddit

Start recording that on camera, tiktok will pay for new lids every day

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The_Gov78@reddit

You are human-ing a lot better than most. I was never quite where those people were but close and I got better. I appreciate you trying to be gentle and kind.

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youcantseeme0_0@reddit

Huh, so he just lets his stuff gets soaked? Does he actually lay down in the water to sleep?

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Kittens-N-Books@reddit (OP)

Yes. They appear to have nothing but the clothes on their back and those are ... They're dressed like a cheap hooker so very little is covered.

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DietCoke_repeat@reddit

Ok...umm....could they BE a ...a sex worker...who is trying to hide?

...like figuring out WHY they prefer a wet dumpster to the outdoors could be key in finding a way to get them to leave.

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bearicorn@reddit

Ah yeah, the city can just magically fix that person

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Scragglymonk@reddit

pour in water so it is about a foot deep ?

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HauntedDIRTYSouth@reddit

Most homeless people need treatment.

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20-20-24hoursago@reddit

If this person is literally willing to lay down in dumpster water, I don't know if anything could deter them. Certainly not piss discs or fart spray or anything the rest of us find vile enough. This is wild, I hope they get the help they apparently desperately need.

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LittleBoiFound@reddit

Not sure if anyone has mentioned motion activated sprinklers. It might sound at first like these suggestions won’t work but if it’s stuff that happens night after night and if you deploy multiple nuances then you might get them to the level where they’ll be motivated to go elsewhere. Is this just one person? Multiple unrelated people? I’d go easy offering food or things if they leave because you don’t want to become known as a good destination for homeless folks to come to.

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Kittens-N-Books@reddit (OP)

Multiple unrelated people.

Like if they want to take our pallets and rolltainers and go live in the woods behind the building or the woods anywhere else nearby we'd be fine with that. It's the whole trying to live in the dumpster and where we receive our freight trucks while wrecking the place that's the issue - it's not safe for them and it makes a mess for us.

Like them having a homeless camp is not the issue - it being directly in the path of heavy machinery and being a mess is.

Clean up after yourself, don't be disruptive, and be discreet when you steal and we'll leave you be. If you actively trt help keep things clean and safe beyond cleaning up after yourself most of us'll even feed you. We do try to not to be dicks to folk who are down.

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LittleBoiFound@reddit

Yep, totally get it. And applaud you for the not being a dick part. It truly does sound like you have their best interests at heart. It just sounds like if you start being a place where they can get stuff like pallets or if you leave stuff out then you'll become a known place and your problem will be so much worse. I'm sorry the city doesn't have better resources for you. It's amazing to watch some of the creative tiny houses or little homes that are being created to give homeless people their own place. I wish our billions could go towards projects like that.

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Shoddy_Option_8385@reddit

Where are you located?

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kolinpj@reddit

My work had a homeless person make a bonfire in the dumpster. We now have locks on them.

The owners also put small boulders around the property where they slept.

Haven't had any homeless since.

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KeyN20@reddit

You could just wait for the garbage truck to collect them. You could put a sign up that says not zoned for living, do not sleep in dumpster. You could toss in smashed glass and let the deadly dumpster water do the rest. You could wait for winter. Idk just keep calling the cops when they are there and let them deal with it, don't do anything that could get you in trouble

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not_falling_down@reddit

Buy the man a tent.

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OsakaSeafoodConcrn@reddit

Set up speakers and play this on loop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md9Bp-KpYrQ&list=PL99yqwzQ66c1zt4sftMIvVaKLGwGsuvjv

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AlsoTheFiredrake@reddit

I used to have a raccoon problem until I got motion activated sprinklers. Just saying...

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godzillabobber@reddit

Play the aria from Mozart's Magic Flute on a loop. Gets on your nerves after a dozen listens.

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LOUDCO-HD@reddit

How do they break the locks? Are we talking a padlock from the hardware store that cost $25 bucks? Go to a locksmith, ask for a lock from the Abus Granit series. Nothing short of the key or a stick of dynamite is going to open that. Expect to pay a couple hundred dollars for it.

If your enclosure is flimsy, call a chain link fencing company and describe your problem to them, and they can create a secure area with strong gate for your super padlock. They can cover the bottom 8’ with a product that makes the fencing unclimbable. You can have additional deterrents install on top.

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ErgonomicZero@reddit

LPL has joined the discussion

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LOUDCO-HD@reddit

Who are they?

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ErgonomicZero@reddit

Lock Picking Lawyer has got quite a following for showing how to defeat most locks in a slightly smarmy yet stoic and amusing way.

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LOUDCO-HD@reddit

Cool channel. I watched the video of him picking the block that I had recommended, and it took him almost 4 minutes with a special tool of his own design. Even he said that it was doubtful it could be picked in the field without an extremely talented lock picker. I think it has a real chance of keeping your average dumpster diver at bay.

I certainly enjoyed his droll manner of explaining the process and watching him do it. He has a very fine touch. I also enjoyed the videos of him destroying other locks with pipe wrenches, etc.

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YouArentReallyThere@reddit

Spray the inside with fox urine

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ErgonomicZero@reddit

Skunk spray as well

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Krsty-Lnn@reddit

Goat pee is awful. Intact male goat pee

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lethargicbudgie@reddit

Fox piss discs

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UntestedMethod@reddit

Install a nest of hornets. Don't forget to pop a quick H on the dumpster. This way you all know it's filled with hornets.

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UntestedMethod@reddit

Put bags of poop in there so it smells really bad.

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Ancient_Log7788@reddit

Have you ever smelled a dumpster? Fart spray would improve it.

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UntestedMethod@reddit

Depends which dumpster.

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thewinterfan@reddit

why cant you lock it?

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LittleBoiFound@reddit

He said in other posts that they keep breaking the locks no matter what they do.

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Ancient_Log7788@reddit

Have they considered locking up the locks?

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Apprehensive_Hat8986@reddit

Sounds like the lock needs to be in a metal housing.

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smthingsmthingsmthin@reddit

Call 311 is that's available in your city and make a report. They'll contact a homelessness outreach person from a local non-profit. Unfortunately, they'll also close the ticket at that point so you may have to keep calling. It can help to find out what non-profit the local outreach people work for so you can keep each other updated. Also, try contacting your city council member. At least where I am, their office has employees specifically working on homelessness issues. Lastly, the dumpster with a lock suggestion is a good idea!

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thewickedbarnacle@reddit

Put better stuff in a nearby dumpster with a "bread crumb trail" and hope they move to a nicer dumpster

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alwaysboopthesnoot@reddit

https://www.countyoffice.org/government-offices/

If older, then the dept of aging, if young then the non emergency police number; if a vet then veterans dept. in vegetal: health department or a 211 or 311 hotline your city may offer; look for your state and county office or city’s site via the link. Go from there.

If the abuse/use of the dumpster occurs on trash pickup day then please call 911 for immediate help to make sure no one is harmed by the trucks/personnel moving or emptying the dumpster.

Use a locking dumpster or ask for a replacement dumpster if your dumpster has been damaged.

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SackBadger2024@reddit

Well, use science to get what you want, go online and buy Cadaverol, yes, its a chemical used to train dogs who find people after natural disasters. It's also engrained in every human brain, that smell is one to be gotten away from, as quickly as possible, it activates fight or flight response. Get a hypodermic needle, and squirt it into the dumpster. They wont be in there long. When we trained dogs, and someone really really was ugly, we would inject it into the rubber moldings of their car doors. Every single time they would sell the car, and at a loss, no one wants to be near it.

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onmy40@reddit

Some gas stations blare classical music to deter people from hanging loitering https://youtu.be/1On3ZEm3JF0?feature=shared

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pobnarl@reddit

Have you tried talking to them?

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Kittens-N-Books@reddit (OP)

Boss man would freak. He thinks they're going to murder me if I interact with them.

They're homeless, not serial killers. Most of them just need a doctor, hot food, and a warm bed.

He's never been homeless or hungry before and it shows.

He thinks I'm stupid because I'm autistic and is extra protective as a result. Meanwhile I'm older than him and have in fact been homeless before. My current housing situation is the longest I've ever been housed without interruption and it's not good, but it's a roof and I have a place to store my stuff so...

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TransplantedPinecone@reddit

He's right that it's dangerous for you to interact with them. Like you said, one of them killed someone a week ago. Keep them at arm's length while you deal with the dumpster issue.

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pobnarl@reddit

You're a good person, too many dehumanize the homeless and mentally unwell. I know the name of this sub is unethical tips, but some of the comments are disgusting. Kicking people while they're down is evil. Talking may not solve anything of course, but i like to give everyone a chance for discussion first.

I was once in a sketchy city park with my girlfriend sitting on a bench. An old homeless guy comes up demanding us to leave, saying the bench was his. I said no one owns benches and he was welcome to sit with us. He took out a hatchet and held it to my face. I calmly asked what his name was, and introduced myself, offered my hand. His face changed, being seen, being treated with respect and humanity, suddenly he was like me best friend, he ran excitedly to get a dirty bottle of wine, offering me a drink, saying i was a special guy. I declined and left soon after as it began to rain, but that story always stuck with me. I don't know why i acted like i did, i was young and dumb, but im glad that's how i reacted in a tense adrenaline situation where i had no time to strategize a response. Everyone won, everyone felt good after. Always seek those win wins. Spreading anger and hate just creates a chain of anger and hate that spreads to everyone.

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HellaWonkLuciteHeels@reddit

Too ethical.

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postbody@reddit

Install speakers and play classical music all day. They will move

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sick-charlie-brown@reddit

Make another place more attractive for them to stay, Use the below ideas to make your place less attractive And make some nearby public property or competitor's property more attractive for them. Maybe drop some free food there

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zacggs@reddit

Baby shark bass remix on an edited loop to always be edging the bass drop, but never delivering but looping back.

Most effective and yet annoying anti-homeless device ive ever seen, it was set to play from 9p-6a in an industrial park of shops, one being a smoke shop.

I couldn't even park within a quarter mile cause I could faintly hear it.

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LadyGruntfuttock@reddit

Tip a bucket of liquid slurry over the contents of the dumpster each night

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goldheadsnakebird@reddit

Are they addicts? When they’re passed out sneak up and narcan them. If they know someone might ruin their high in an area they’ll avoid it.

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Quirky_Routine_90@reddit

Rotting fish works

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itsthedevilweknow@reddit

House them?

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workswithherhands@reddit

Buy them a tent and put it in a safe place.

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Dave-The-Destroyer@reddit

Try dosing everthing in pepper extract

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Mysteriousmumu@reddit

Is there a way to fence off your area? Then make an electric fence.

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wiwcha@reddit

Lock them

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MagnificentBastard-1@reddit

Unethical?

Put something in the dumpster that will dissuade people from living in it.

Perhaps a bobcat.

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oohwowlaulau@reddit

Ammonia

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daemon_exe_@reddit

Bribe them with something else, you probably only have to get one or two on board and then they will police the rest. Similar to working in a rough neighborhood, find out who is around and offer them something for their assistance.

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skip737@reddit

This belongs in r/EthicalProLifeTips. It I didn’t. Other to see if that exists. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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zomanda@reddit

Music, gospel,country, the more awful the better. I live in a major, CA city and have had multiple office spaces around town (including downtown). We play music every evening so they don't sleep there and they eventually move all the way on.

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EmergencyGrocery3238@reddit

Oh that explains top charts lately

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Witty_Candle_3448@reddit

Bright flood lights might help. Set up cameras to record their actions. Call police for destruction of property. Hire someone with a guard dog to stay overnight. Perhaps the growling and barking will frighten the people away.

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Electrical-Pool5618@reddit

You’re one of those people who calls police to fix things you should be solving yourself. Grow a set and squirt bear spray all over the dumpster when they’re not there. Put a big lock on it. Play annoying music until they go away. Never mind. Just call police and complain when they don’t do anything. 😂😂😂

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World-Critic589@reddit

Spray bear spray or pepper spray all around it and inside nightly for the next few weeks. You could put up a sign warning them, so they can choose to expose themselves to it or not. Maybe they’ll find a new place during that time.

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outsider531@reddit

Hire a trash collector and get rid of the dumpsters. Guy gets paid to come however often and take away all your trash. Just bag it nice for them in case they use a car. Then theres no dumpster for them to camp in

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ClinchMcTavish@reddit

Water. Lots of water. Then hurt them.

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Difficult-Low5891@reddit

Build a tiny home next to the dumpster.

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mizzanthrop@reddit

Or start building the homeless encampment for them, near but away from the dumpster. If there is a tent set up already they might just migrate on over.

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LastLostCause@reddit

Ask your boss how much money has been spent on this. Ask how much more they are willing to pay to make it stop.

Speak to the person. Ask them why they choose this as their spot. Is there a reason they like the dumpster so much? Would they be happier in a wooded area?

Then purchase a shelter for the person. Maybe a small shed, set up near the dumpster that they like. Maybe an easy-setup tent, so they can go somewhere else.

I hate that there's nowhere for folks to go. I know of a church who kicked a homeless encampment off their property. A CHURCH. Didn't try to help, just said get out.

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DogsDucks@reddit

Unfortunately it sounds like they are mentally unwell. We don’t know the details of how they’re acting.

I live in a small city and am familiar with a handful of people here who don’t have homes. Most do not make me uncomfortable, but some are clearly struggling to the point where my safety may be at risk if I said or did the wrong thing.

Sometimes it’s difficult to gauge, but it sounds like OP might be scared to confront them personally. . . Which does not mean they don’t deserve compassion or help. It just means OP isn’t trained or suited for that role.

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Kittens-N-Books@reddit (OP)

Most of these guys are chill and if my boss wouldn't freak I'd chat them up- My guts not been wrong yet- the one dude who scared me ended up killing someone a week or so back.

Not much info is available, because it was another vagrant, but a coworker waking to work saw the cleanup and arrest- machete guy either killed someone under a bridge or threw them off of it.

We have a few regulars I've not seen in a bit, so I don't know which one it was- if it was any of them.

Meanwhile my boss is worried I'm going to get murdered if I try to talk to them. They're homeless, not mass murderers. Most of them just need a doctor and a hot meal and a warm bed.
He's never been homeless or really gone hungry and it shows

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DogsDucks@reddit

You’re a good person with a sweet heart.

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EricFreeman_@reddit

I would say don't speak to them, as you said they are unwell and could try and hurt you or makes things worse. I found reports to the higher-ups in the city and/or mayor and or Police Department with pictures and photos are the best way to get something done. You can also hire temporary security to stand guard for a few hours and move them along. This is the best option in my eyes

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realdappermuis@reddit

I'm assuming your store has an alarm system, being a store ñ all?

Could you maybe put up sensors and a speaker for it in that area? Alarm company might get peeved having to keep going there if the intruders are not deterred by it....but it issss their job

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Kittens-N-Books@reddit (OP)

Too many feral cats. I had to take one home because it kept breaking into the building, the little shit, but I'm trying to find a TNR group to handle the rest. Ones about to pop.

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SomeDumbMentat@reddit

Vote appropriately

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Vaperwear@reddit

Itching powder

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booshie@reddit

Just let them be. You still consistently cannot spell “there”, so you’re not that much better off. Take pity on them and try to help instead of make things even worse.

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kamspy@reddit

Classical music. Works magically. Wish funding comes together to study “why” it works.

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Smores-Lover@reddit

Get skunk spray.

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Halfassedtrophywife@reddit

It’s starting to get cold at night in some areas, there aren’t enough homeless beds in the shelters so that’s not always an option.

Here’s what I would suggest: get a tent, get another tent that can fit inside of tent #1, and then get a tarp to put over the tents. Get some survival blankets, those noisy ass Mylar blankets that are like $1 each. Give that all to the homeless person and tell them to get out of the dumpster. Tell them they can stay by the dumpster but not in it if they keep the area cleaner than it is. Don’t call the police on them because all they’re going to do is destroy that person’s stuff which might include their vital docs. Worst case scenario the person would be without their stuff and could potentially freeze to death as a result. Offer to make a third party homeless verification letter for them to get housing (if they’re working with a housing entity and you’re in a country that practices Housing First).

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drone-on-and-on@reddit

Security guard

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CommentingAccount4@reddit

Get a decoy dumpster

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Sea-Louse@reddit

Bleach. The smell will be unbearable and they will go elsewhere. This is how I got rid of a bum who used to sleep and shit in a doorway I had to clean.

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APuckerLipsNow@reddit

https://youtu.be/_XCRLDUl6sM

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JulieThinx@reddit

Not exactly unethical advice that you 100% don't have to take, especially if you are not comfortable - which is completely understandable.

This person does sound quite ill given they go out of their way to remain in the same spot. I am a person who used to receive folks like this in and we'd try to help them get better and when they're gone, sometimes they do the same things over again.

IF you feel comfortable with this, consider having a chat with them.

You have to choose words carefully, but your initial comment "I don't mind homeless people- I've been there" can be a good ice breaker.

A couple hints, things that you may not perceive may be real *to them* and may be fueling some of the behavior. If they share this with you (e.g. I'm Buck Owens brother and Jesus Christ is my father and he said it is okay to stay here) just keep a straight face.

Do not agree with a delusion (something they believe) but stick to facts. This is a "dumpster behind a business and Jesus Christ is a cool guy and all but he doesn't own the building"

"Trucks come and empty this out at all hours and that can be a danger for you." (Be prepared for them to know the dumping schedule.)

"I'm worried about your safety and well being but also this mess you make takes my food service job that is already hard and makes it harder. I don't want you harmed and I don't think you are trying to make my day harder either."

"My boss is a real piece of work. I'm worried about your safety and they really kind of aren't as worried about you as I am. I know things are hard, but please can I call some resources for you to find a different place?"

Have a number for a crisis unit or mental health place or number available. Homeless people don't always have good experiences with cops, but some are used to the rigamarole.

You may hear their underlying reason for why they are there - and if possible find a way to address it (this is my favorite dumpster #473 and I'll follow it anywhere - have trash company move it. "this is the only place I get food" - find a place giving meals...)

The key to a conversation is not to judge or be offended by what they are saying and to convey that their safety matters to you but also you have stuff you need to get done. Most homeless folks don't get that kind of face to face honesty and it can go a long way.

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DrFabulous0@reddit

Move in yourself, establish you territory by shitting everywhere, then fuck his dad.

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schaudhery@reddit

Ask a Fox News host, he’s got a plan…

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sillyconmind@reddit

Support policies that house the homeless, donate to shelters and programs that get people back on their feet. Offer them work

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Pleasant_Reward1203@reddit

why is there no lock on your dumpster?

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bishop42O@reddit

you dont own the company let the ppl thats making the money worry about it.

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Svv33tPotat0@reddit

Have you told them all this directly?

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buttbuttfartpoo@reddit

why doesnt locking work?

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HusqyFan@reddit

Liquid ass.

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thewinterfan@reddit

They need to quit cheaping out on Masterlocks and getting real locks

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canadachris44@reddit

Booby trap the dumpster with piss discs

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Worried_Term_7030@reddit

Really!!! Is this subreddot not thinking? Throw some pissdisks in the dumpster while they sleep, jeez

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Apprehensive_Hat8986@reddit

They're already sleeping in garbage water, a piss disc is going to be a (temporary) improvement.

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Ok-Suggestion-7965@reddit

This might call for some extra large piss disc. What is the standard size for piss disc anyway? I’ve always assumed they were relatively small for convenience and transportation. I need a piss disc expert to chime in.

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Money_Ad1068@reddit

What you're referring to is piss bricks, or for flat applications, piss planks.

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Ok-Suggestion-7965@reddit

Thanks Money_Ad1068! I knew there were some frozen piss experts on here.

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Dougally@reddit

We've gone from piss weak to piss strong...

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Apprehensive_Hat8986@reddit

It's not the best outcome, but honestly, a few days in lockup would get them a shower and several square meals.

And I hate that this is what our society has to offer.

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SkyHoglet@reddit

Since the city isn't working, have you tried looking for local organizations/nonprofits that help the homeless instead?

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LittleBoiFound@reddit

That’s a good suggestion.

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laurensassets@reddit

Add raccoons or dogs that are loud and close. Work closer to them . Call the trash company every time they are in there for a pick up and have them deal with it. Call the city. Play obnoxious music on a speaker

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Kittens-N-Books@reddit (OP)

Trash company comes once a week and the city refuses.

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laurensassets@reddit

Can u fence it ? There are non lethal gun type set ups that shoot dust and other particles at ppl when their space has been compromised Fogm

http://www.tvguy.com.au/best-home-invasion-fog-smoke-bomb-alarm-system/

It’s your property- can u move the trash can somewhere else? Can you downsize to multiple smaller containers until her leaves ?

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LittleBoiFound@reddit

The non lethal gun type setups is a good option plus it might appeal to the boss that’s already gun happy. I wonder if the dumpster sleeping guy lost his sense of smell?

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Kittens-N-Books@reddit (OP)

It's already fenced- they break the locks.

Corporate handles contracts and such - I don't know if downsizing is possible

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Capt_Gremerica@reddit

Using smaller containers is a good idea!

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Konilos@reddit

Weld the lid closed next time you catch them

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Flux_My_Capacitor@reddit

Sadly this is an effect of closing mental hospitals decades ago instead of improving them. Change needed to happen, and governments chose the easy and cheap way out at the expense of human lives.

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Slackersr@reddit

Pinesol smells lovely... until after a few minutes it becomes almost unbearable

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aluke000@reddit

Lock the dumpsters after hours if yours have the brackets that allow a padlock

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exotics@reddit

Lock it at night?

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Sea_Bear7754@reddit

Hose them off.

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eribear2121@reddit

Add a flashing bright light. Pointed right at where they are hanging out.

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Bratchan@reddit

dump a bunch of fish fertlizer next to it, the smell will detur them

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samsbamboo@reddit

If the dumpster smell wasn't deterring them already, fish might not do it.

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zamfire@reddit

Pour a bottle of ammonia in the trash. I assure you, no one will want to spend not than enough time to drop off trash near it

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thesamiad@reddit

Ask the people who turn up to empty it to come at a different time/day to pick up the bin and ask them to stop before tipping it,the fear of getting crushed should put them off trying again.(ask bin people to assist)

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Mollzor@reddit

Get a lock for the dumpster?

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Dickhertzer@reddit

Close it up quickly when they are all settled, move container to different location and release to the wild. Works for bears, however it doesn’t always go well at the release end.

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yourdonefor_wt@reddit

Call the police because they're on private property.

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scienceislice@reddit

Have you tried calling the local fire department? They are typically very concerned by unsafe conditions, and if that living situation goes sour for them, the fire department might be involved with rescue efforts. It’s worth a shot to give them a call

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stabdarich161@reddit

What a shitty thread

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laydeefly@reddit

Here are a few suggestions 1.) Hire security 2.) Have the dumpster removed and arrange a different site for drop off if possible 3.) High pitched noises don’t matter when someone can get ear plugs so that’s a dub 4.) I’ve seen some pretty intense dumpster locks in the past - which ones are they tearing off?

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fotofreak56@reddit

Have the owner purchase a dumpster with a locking lid.

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Kittens-N-Books@reddit (OP)

They tore off the lid. They break every lock we put on the corral

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