Peace be with you
Posted by MiserableMood5158@reddit | Xennials | View on Reddit | 198 comments
Catholic Xennials will know the correct response will always be “and also with you”
The “and with your spirit” I hear when I attend a wedding or funeral always throws me for a loop!
queenofcaffeine76@reddit
I had 4 years of Catholic school. my husband is a huge Star Wars fan, and whenever I hear "may the force be with you" I want to say "and also with you."
GeetchNixon@reddit
May the force be with you…
And also with you.
Lift up your hearts…
Lift them up to the Force.
GrandBet4177@reddit
Let us give thanks to the Force, our Force
sgdonovan79@reddit
It is right to give Yoda thanks and praise.
whoisjet@reddit
One of my friends is a huge dark side fan, and all three of us wrote this out nearly 10 years ago, and now I have to share:
Darth Vader
Within thy Death Star
Sith Lord be thy name
Thy Empire come
Thy will be done
on Yavin as been done to Alderaan.
Give us this day your edification,
and aid us against any defectors,
as we smite those who trespass against us.
Lead us not into Rebel victory,
but deliver us from captivity.
Potato-Engineer@reddit
I married a Catholic, and that part is the one that always throws me for a loop. It sounds like a daily affirmation prescribed by a psychiatrist.
HalfFrozenSpeedos@reddit
.....well some view religion as a well versed form of brainwashing....and I can see why some think that (personally you believe what you like as long as you don't push your beliefs on me or demand your beliefs become law)
brzantium@reddit
very meet, right, and our bounden duty it is...
Zerostar39@reddit
🎵and he will raise you up on an X-wing, bear you on the breath of Darth. 🎵
sgdonovan79@reddit
No joke, that was always my favorite hymn. I requested it be used during my first communion mass.
And you just made it better! 🤘
Zerostar39@reddit
It was everyone’s favorite.
sgdonovan79@reddit
Heck yeah!
GeetchNixon@reddit
Make you to shine like Beskar…
And hold you in the palm…
Of the Force.
lost_horizons@reddit
I sang all of this in my head, haven’t been to a mass in 25 years.
Persis-@reddit
This is the way
Current_Stop@reddit
Me too!!!
lordskulldragon@reddit
I actually say it!
jestingvixen@reddit
You... somehow refrain? It is infrequent that someone catches the reference and it makes my poor, overworked brain weasels feel better.
P. S. Recovering Episcopalian, here. My da has Opinions about getting the ritual right and would under no circumstances relent and go to second Mass because it was "namby pamby new agey bullshit." Tell me you're neurodivergent without saying the word, Da. Go on. Tell me how you can't tolerate change in your routine on any front... The change was that they switched up the "World without end" as opposed to "forever and ever," to...appeal to a younger crowd? Who for some unfathomable reason didn't want to be up at six in the morning on a "day of rest?" He was so mad about it O.o
Anyway, may the Force be with you, cousin.
Toblogan@reddit
🤣😂
pretty_shiny@reddit
Ahahahaha, same! After photographing several catholic weddings, I thought this same thing. Funny to see someone else say it too!
Folkloristicist@reddit
This has been an ongoing joke between a couple friends and I for years
lovemypennydog@reddit
Literally came here to say this!
Waitsjunkie@reddit
I think they actually slipped that into one of the episodes of The Mandalorian. I cracked up when I heard it. 😄
rin_the_red@reddit
As someone who has never watched Star Wars, but used to go to the Lutheran church with my friend when i would spend the night on Saturdays: "And also with you " is my automatic response to May the force be with you.
maggie320@reddit
I think that’s a knee jerk reactions for Catholics. I worked with a guy who was a permanent deacon and he said “may the force be with you”, we were talking about Star Wars and I responded with “And also with you”. He was beside himself.
AdelleDeWitt@reddit
I remember watching it in college with some friends and two of us reflexively muttered "And also with you." Unintentional Catholic detection system.
Odd_Advantage_4245@reddit
This is the way
graveybrains@reddit
Why are you not saying it, though? Everyone else is.
Garf_artfunkle@reddit
Mando said this in Season 2 and in retrospect it was the peak of the series
queenofcaffeine76@reddit
I don't even like the show but I'm still sad that I missed that moment
Sorry-Joke-4325@reddit
And literally almost every single other person who ever went to a Catholic mass and saw Star Wars.
Bacch@reddit
Every single time I hear it.
BigPoppaStrahd@reddit
Catholic raised Star Wars fans:
“May The force be with you”
“And also with you”
Persis-@reddit
Presbyterian raised here - have always wanted to add “and also with you.”
Lil_Erick81@reddit
Is it fun being a Presbyterian ? Going to a Catholic Church service sucks. I haven’t been in a while. I only go for the bread. Which is still mighty good. It’s a bunch of old people going there now. And I can’t kneel like I used to, you know with the going with all the different motions. I have squeaky bones from all of the moving.
Persis-@reddit
I can say that the three Presbyterian churches I belonged to in my life were good places. My becoming an atheist has nothing to do with my religious upbringing. I sometimes wish I could still believe, because I miss the community. While not as ritual-heavy as Catholicism, I miss the comfort of the routines of a traditional service.
The two churches I grew up in, and the one I joined as an adult were all very welcoming of all people. I never experienced or witnessed the people being judgmental of anyone who entered the church. Some of the very best, truest Christians I’ve ever known were people I knew from church.
Presbyterianism is very committee based. I now work in a preschool housed in a Methodist church. It weirds me out when the pastor or building manager just makes a decision about something. In my churches, that would have had to have been brought to Session (ruling board), and maybe even a committee. Basically, no one person makes decisions for the church.
Presbyterians also love potlucks.
HalfFrozenSpeedos@reddit
Whereas I became an atheist on the basis that my ADHD brain reasoned - why would a loving god let a 5 year old kid (me) get the shit beaten out of him everyday after school for weeks on end? Ergo if god exists they aren't loving or benevolent and if they exist they are malicious and malevolent.
However logic dictates that god doesn't exist on the basis of there being no proof of the existence of god despite over 2000 years of claimed existence, no one can prove the existence of a higher power anymore than they can prove the existence of the tooth fairy or the Grinch....
Persis-@reddit
That’s basically how it happened for me. But I DO miss the comfort of the routine and familiarity of the service, and the connection to my parents and grandma.
They were what Christians are supposed to be. And I haven’t been able to completely shake the feeling I’ve betrayed them by turning away from their beliefs. I do try to remind myself that I live by the ideals of what they taught me, I simply lack the beliefs.
RichardCranim-Dumas@reddit
As a toddler I associated that with “may the force be with you”
TheSentientSnail@reddit
Lift up your heart! (we lift them up to the lord)
Let us give thanks to the lord, our God. (it is right to give him thanks and praise)
It's probably been 25 years since I've been to mass and it's all still absolutely ingrained. May the fourth is a real struggle, I tell ya.
smallermarshmallow@reddit
It’s sooo ingrained! I’m no longer Catholic (atheist now) but I have caught myself almost genuflecting before entering a row of seats at a movie theater, which is wild, lol
rialucia@reddit
It’s amazing how that stays in muscle memory. I’m agnostic and have long since stopped attending Mass, however, I have been to a few Catholic funerals in the past couple years and I surprised myself by still saying the responses quietly. I even kneel and stand and just draw the line at taking communion.
LeopardDue1112@reddit
We believe in one god, the father the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth. Through him all things were made...dammit I'm already forgetting
SaltyDuchess@reddit
“… for us and for our salvation he came down from heaven” yup still got it
MyNameCannotBeSpoken@reddit
I was always Protestant but went to Catholic school for six years. I still have Catholic tendencies.
CrypticTurbellarian@reddit
I’ll see yours and raise you:
We believe in one God, the father, the Almighty, creator of heaven and earth…
unbalancedcentrifuge@reddit
They changed the Nicene Creed on us.
Own-Natural3266@reddit
And it all comes back during a Catholic funeral.
blue_suavitel@reddit
😫😫😫😫 I have it memorized too
katie_cat_eyes@reddit
And also with you.
Catholic here and I married a Lutheran. There’s this scene in Derry Girls where they compare Catholics to Protestants and make a whole chalkboard full of differences. And damn if it isn’t true.
arcxjo@reddit
Lutherans are Catholic Lite.
cmgww@reddit
Definitely, we referred to them as diet Catholics…. I wasn’t even Catholic, I just dated a girl who was back in college. Long enough that I knew all the rituals and what not. These days I’m more of a universalist, I believe in God but I don’t necessarily belong to any ideology
rialucia@reddit
LOL My Mom also calls Lutherans Diet Catholics
LaRoseDuRoi@reddit
I thought that was the Episcopalians?
fenwoods@reddit
Yeah. Anglican theology is much closer to Catholicism than Lutheran theology.
For instance, Anglicans (including Episcopalians) recognize all of the seven Catholic sacraments.
“All the sacraments, half the guilt!” we’d say in the Episcopal Church growing up. As well as that we were “One step from Rome.”
We’d also say “Episcopalians— wherever one or two are gathered, there’s a fifth.” The drinking can get out of hand in TEC. You wouldn’t believe the outcry when the General Convention was held in Salt Lake City a few years back, all those priests whining that they couldn’t get out to a bar.
arcxjo@reddit
They're Catholics with an uglier pope.
katie_cat_eyes@reddit
That’s what my mom always said and my Catholic cousin also married a Lutheran. “You can get married outside. It’s great!”
Okra_Tomatoes@reddit
Catholics buzz about statues and we don’t so much.
katie_cat_eyes@reddit
My daughter asked what religion she was because she didn’t like soup. I said “that’s Catholic.”
drewbaccaAWD@reddit
I will forever say "and also with you." lol
JerriBlankStare@reddit
💯💯💯
Now THAT'S What I Call Music: Catholic Edition. 😆
rialucia@reddit
I’m no longer practicing, but that’s still one of my favorite hymns.
Antron_RS@reddit
The snare of the fowler will never capture you…
The second verse is such a weird lyric, I’ve never forgotten it
ScreenTricky4257@reddit
When I was a kid, the Our Father ended with, "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil, Amen."
Some time later they added something about "For thine is the glory" or something.
Far-Pie-6226@reddit
Man, the church I go to now sings the Our Father. I've been there for 5 years and I still get anxiety when that part comes up.
Maximumi-Awkward@reddit
Why did it change?
SkirtLikeAFlag@reddit
The TV was on last Sunday morning in the background. I noticed that even after a 20-year absence, i could still say both the priest’s and parishioners’ parts. Or so I thought.
I used to hear my grandparents and older generations complain that Vatican II could be the downfall of the church, and I wondered what the big deal was (who wanted to wear a head covering and sit through an hour of Latin?). Well, I got annoyed at the change, though my cradle Catholic ass has more than lapsed. Makes me wonder whether a bunch of other things we had growing up are still a thing: fasting before mass, cry rooms, striking the chest during certain prayers… just so long as no new Canon trickles forth making Sunday look like service with the Gemstones, ha!
foozebox@reddit
Hosanna in the highest my friend, hosanna in the highest.
No_Buffalo2833@reddit
When I was little I thought they were singing "lasagna, lasagna, on Rye." And I was always thinking man does that sounds gross. Also seemed off topic.
StaceyPfan@reddit
"Begotten rotten egg"
Toblogan@reddit
I thought it was a person, like a cross between Jose' and Anna.
Josanna
Toblogan@reddit
Yeah, I finally looked up Hosanna about 5 years ago, and was like yep, that makes sense...
It means praise and admiration. The context clues were a little vague on that one.
Amoeba_Infinite@reddit
Mulaney had a good bit on this
Sanchastayswoke@reddit
It’s not just xennials that know this. It’s also all Catholics lol
Seven22am@reddit
“And also with you” is a pretty standard response across liturgical churches. I seriously wonder if the Catholics changed it just to be different from the Protestants. As someone who goes back and forth, it drives me crazy.
MlsterFlster@reddit
Can confirm. I grew up Lutheran, and that was our call and response.
Rhianna83@reddit
I always follow up “And also with you” with
“Let us pray”
My husband and I crack up every time.
(Raised Lutheran and we are agnostic now)
myco_lion@reddit
I almost started reciting the lord's prayer instinctually. Lol haven't been to a church service on over 20 years. That shit got ingrained. I blame confirmation and all the forced memorization.
AnotherCrazyChick@reddit
I refused to recite memory work in confirmation class, but my Mom told our pastor at the time, that she didn’t have to say memorization work when she was confirmed. So I wrote an essay on Abraham instead and was confirmed with the adult class.
Rhianna83@reddit
I really really wish that would have happened for me.
As a Lutheran, we had 2 years of catechism classes, had to attend so many church services, had to acolyte so many times, and then answer so many questions in front of the church to become a member. I did it.
Then the church turned its back on me at 15, and I realized what a waste of damn time I could have spent playing with friends or reading my RL Stine.
Toblogan@reddit
Yeah, all I really remember having to do for confirmation was pick a saint name. I chose John the Baptist. He always hit me as a pretty fun guy to be around. I bet there was never a dull moment when he was there.
MotherofaPickle@reddit
I refused to be confirmed and I still nearly started the Our Father. And I stopped attending Mass, except for weddings and funerals, 25 years ago.
Rhianna83@reddit
It’s bonkers how engrained it is.
MotherofaPickle@reddit
It’s why I never became a full member of the Church (I.e., confirmed). I was tired of the rote repetitiveness.
GreenApples8710@reddit
But will there be a potluck to follow?
Rhianna83@reddit
Lent Wednesdays and the line of crock pot soups is a memory I’ll have forever.
spaceace321@reddit
As I recall it was something about the translation from ecclesiastical Latin being more precise
Badger_Terp@reddit
Latino here - grew up going to mass in Spanish and we said “and with your spirit” in Spanish.
By the time I was a teen my parents let me and my older brother go to the English service (it was much shorter/quicker) and there it was “and also with you.”
I never really wondered why the difference existed and I think I assume each language had its own version. Quite the surprise the first time I heard “and with your spirit” at an English mass.
miclugo@reddit
The Latin is “Et cum spiritu tuo”, so yes, “spirit” is right there.
spaceace321@reddit
Holy shit I was right about something?! Thanks for the affirmation!
PickleMyOkra@reddit
Grew up United Methodist. We did it too.
bassman314@reddit
Anglican, Lutheran, and even some Presbyterians.
Goodguybadd@reddit
Amen. But not just Amen, but Awomen…and Achildren too!
taskforceslacker@reddit
Catholic Mass was cheaper than a gym membership and a better leg day.
SwitchbackHiker@reddit
Catholic Calisthenics
body_by_monsanto@reddit
My (very catholic) mom got super mad at me when I told her she gets an okay workout at church, but she should try lifting her arms up to praise the lord when she stands up to get a more well rounded workout.
Delta-IX@reddit
Catholicsthenics?
ImOnlyHereForTheCoC@reddit
Cathlesthenolics
queenofcaffeine76@reddit
Lmao yep sit-stand-kneel
MiserableMood5158@reddit (OP)
Unless you were a half assed kneeler
taskforceslacker@reddit
In god’s house????? Blasphemy!
MiserableMood5158@reddit (OP)
I was always jealous of the kids whose parents allowed the half assed kneel
taskforceslacker@reddit
Or the ones that never seem to stand or kneel, they just sit there whole time. Lucky kids.
Toblogan@reddit
And sleep... When I was little I couldn't make it five minutes without passing out. Id wake up drooling on my hymnal! Never failed... 😂
body_by_monsanto@reddit
They changed it? I haven’t been to a catholic anything in about 10 years. Now I know for the next funeral!
Badger1505@reddit
As a recovering Catholic, it trips me up every time I go to church (usually with Mom/her family) on that call/response. I feel like they did it to single us out who aren't going regularly anymore.
Toblogan@reddit
Me too! But I still say it the old way, loud and proud! 😂
CMarlowe@reddit
Any of you fellow Catholics kids hear some absolute batshit insane stories from your teachers?
One inspired me so much I even wrote a story based on it. We had this teacher who told us there would come a time where we’d experience the three days of darkness. One day, darkness would envelope the earth. The entire earth. The sun would be blotted out. Demonic monsters would roam the Earth and try to get into your house. They would even impersonate your loved ones. So grandma would be knocking on the door saying, “Please let me in, Cmarlowe! They’re out here! They’re everywhere!” but you better not open your door.
Toblogan@reddit
OMG, I just remembered we had one catechism teacher that started talking about ghosts. It was like the first or second class of that year. We were like 7-8. We were going back and forth telling ghost stories. Half the class's parents called the church telling them their kids were afraid to go to sleep bed alone after that. We never saw that teacher again. I felt so bad for her though. It's quite possible that I started the whole thing, (I can't remember for sure)I was really into the paranormal and used to check out books about ghosts from the library. I know I definitely told a few stories I had read. I was really good at getting the teachers to talk about things other than Catholicism!
VelocityGrrl39@reddit
Wait, they changed it?
magsli@reddit
yeah to align with the latin translation and the rest of the catholics across the world- all the other countries have said it with the latin translations. Except for us. Americans were the only ones who said it differently. So they changed it. :/
blue_suavitel@reddit
We lift up our hearts…
magsli@reddit
we lift them up to the lord
SunshineInDetroit@reddit
I may be a lapsed Catholic but the Old Nicene Creed is better than what they're reciting in Church.
I really bothers me how righteous the Catholic Church sounds since they made those changes. Bordering on introducing zealotry to members instead of bringing people together.
magsli@reddit
100% agree with you
frawgster@reddit
Ah yes. This part of the mass was what I call the “let’s see who’s here today” portion. Cause I’d get to turn around to give handshakes to folks around me, and I’d scan the room to see who was and wasn’t there. ❤️
Cisru711@reddit
You can sit in the back and do that from the start.
Toblogan@reddit
Isn't that what the last row is for? Oh, you know who wasn't here today huh? Lol
blue_suavitel@reddit
Hahahaha yup
mickeltee@reddit
Wait?! What?! I haven’t done a catholic mass in 20ish years. What is this “with your spirit” nonsense?!
magsli@reddit
The governing body of the American RC Church updated our mass translations in 2011 to align exactly with the latin. What’s crazy is that all Catholics across the world have always said mass with the latin translation. Americans raised with the updated Vatican II versions never did. We had a totally different thing. So they changed it, and now it’s alienating. Like even though i don’t go to mass anymore, I think it was a stupid idea. bc like, if i did or do go to mass, i am standing there like wtf, I feel dumb, singled out and don’t want to be here. peace be with you and also with you- I’m out losers
Quetzalsacatenango@reddit
https://i.redd.it/d16rg5o6usof1.gif
tugonhiswinkie@reddit
John Mulaney's jokes about being a Catholic kid endeared me to him. "It's an hour!"
BIRDsnoozer@reddit
My parents, sister, and I experienced that exact story with ALL OF US saying, "and also with you" at a wedding in 2016. Yea, we hadnt been in god's house for a minute. 🤷🏼♂️🤦
Toblogan@reddit
I still say everything the old way. Fuck em! 🤣😂 I should probably go tomorrow... 😞
MyNameCannotBeSpoken@reddit
hoodiesandnaps@reddit
I was like we did it, we found John Mulaneys Reddit account
shawn615@reddit
This was the first thing I thought of
MotherofaPickle@reddit
Same.
PhotographStrict9964@reddit
I’m Episcopalian and we’ve always said “And also with you.” But I’ve heard “and with your spirit” when I’ve visited other parishes. Makes me feel like I missed a memo lol
Toblogan@reddit
That was the same though I had the first time I went to Church and heard it. I was like, shouldn't there be a paper with a warning in the little book box on the pews? I kinda felt put off. Like I was in the wrong church or something. It felt weird. But I'm weird so I just kept saying it the old way. I'm still a nonconformist! 🤣😂
Sebastian_dudette@reddit
Rite 1 will get you the and with thy spirit. Had some priests who liked to use Rite 1 during lent.
PhotographStrict9964@reddit
That would explain it. Rite 2 is the most familiar to me.
Deep-Ad4351@reddit
And I was the one pre-Y2K asshole going, “And also with you.”
Toblogan@reddit
I still say it the old way, but I like to be different... 😂
GardenRafters@reddit
Blessed be the fruit...
Norwester77@reddit
I used to sing Compline at an Episcopal church, and the response was “and with thy spirit”!
For Lutherans, it’s still “and also with you.”
Okra_Tomatoes@reddit
Yep Rite I is “and with thy spirit.” Most Episcopal churches do Rite II which says “and also with you.” (Also sung Compline is beautiful!)
arcxjo@reddit
Methodists (the New & Improved Episcopalians) would say AAWY too.
TeddyAtTheReady@reddit
I used to do this with a former coworker. He and I were both raised catholic and identified as “recovering Catholics”. We worked in a factory and whenever he walked over to my station, one of us would belt out “THROUGH HIM, WITH HIM, AND IN HIM, IN THE UNITY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, ALL GLORY AND HONOR IS YOURS ALMIGHTY FATHER, FOREVER AND EVERRRRR” to the response of “AMENNNNN”
Large-Inspection-487@reddit
Singing it too! Lmao
TeddyAtTheReady@reddit
CHRIST HAS DIED, CHRIST IS RISEN, CHRIST WILL COME AGAINNNNN
abirdreads@reddit
Grew up United Methodist and can confirm we said all of these, exactly the same.
carbon12_@reddit
The first time my brother-in-law went to a Catholic mass, he thought everyone was shaking hands and saying, "pleased to meet you," so he did the same.
MotoDog805@reddit
Thank you. I thought I lost my mind after my childhood catechism. I was totally thrown off after going back to church after having children when that was the response.
figment1979@reddit
Was thinking this same exact thing at my catholic aunt’s funeral last week. Hadn’t been to a catholic mass in almost 20 years (married a Congregationalist***) and the change caught me off guard.
I feel like something else “call and response”ish was different too but I don’t remember what it was.
***It is absolutely striking how much simpler Congregational services are versus Catholic ones. Way more laid back and, in my opinion, informal.
sparkleinptld@reddit
Another one is the bit that was “Oh Lord, I am not worthy to receive you… “ Now it’s “I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof”
figment1979@reddit
Ah yes, thank you.
sjphotopres@reddit
So I grew up learning “and also with you,” but am now Armenian Orthodox and the Armenian translates to “and with your spirit.” I wonder what it is in Latin, and if the “and also with you” was a liturgical change to make people feel more engaged
ennuiismymiddlename@reddit
ttttunos@reddit
::frog voice:: 🎶LET US PROCLAIM... THE MYSTERY OF FAITTHHH🎶
It's been damn near 30 years and I still can't unhear this shit.
Merkela22@reddit
Raised Baptist and we said the same thing. Obviously I don't go to church anymore, didn't realize it was changed.
AgentWD409@reddit
r/UnintentionalMulaney
Important-Poetry-595@reddit
Hello, french here, I have been in many churches during my childhood and I think in France we always say "et avec votre esprit" (also with your spirit) You made me discover that there were an other way
thelaineybelle@reddit
Any other Episcoalians raised on the 1928 Book of Common Prayer and not the Rite I Liturgy? The answer is "And with thy spirit."
LaRoseDuRoi@reddit
Raised Episcopalian and we always did the "And also with you" response. I haven't been to church in about 25 years, though.
FatherOfLights88@reddit
For the past year and a half, as I was attending an Episcopal Church (never again), every time the priest was about to start the service, I was expecting to hear "Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today..."
Gator2Romeo0@reddit
Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet and Watch.
Tragic_Comic7@reddit
It changed 14 years ago, so I’ve gotten used to the changes by now.
weepinwilo@reddit
the judeo-christian-islamic faiths all have their versions
hebrew call: shalom aleicham (peace be upon u) response: aleicham shalom (unto u peace)
arabic call: assalamu alaykum (peace be upon u) response: alaykum assalum (upon u peace)
Lafemmedelargent@reddit
Former Catholic here. I've never heard the spirit version. I got bad vibes whenever I was at protestant churches so I may have just not paid attention.
My husband and I went to a family funeral, it was my family so it was a Catholic service and I swear his head started spinning when I just did all the recitations and the sit/stand/kneel. Lol
It's the only religious thing we've done together and he kept looking at me like I'd grown an extra head. 😂
Haven't been to church for anything beyond funerals and weddings in 2 decades.
adjust_your_set@reddit
And also with you
NiteTiger@reddit
I called out my church attendance at my grandma's funeral a few weeks ago by that "with your spirit" thing.
TwilightStranger@reddit
Yeah. They changed a a lot of the liturgy and responses to be more scripture accurate sometimes ago. I felt like a fish out of water when I responded from memory after 9 years of Catholic school and 8 years being an altar boy when that happened.
Foreign_Donkey463@reddit
Is that when you only attend mass because the response has been changed to "and with your spirit " in mass since 2011....(I attend mass weekly or every other week just for reference). It was changed for more closely align with the Latin translation. And yes, occasionally a "peace be with you " still slips out
velocitrumptor@reddit
Tlm never changes, so it's always et tu spiritu tuum.
Feisty_Crops@reddit
And also with you
BIRDsnoozer@reddit
My mom is italian, she sent my sis and I to catholic school, sunday school, dragged us kicking and screaming to mass (literally) and we grew up hearing "and also with you"...
Religion kinda slid off of us, even my mom (esp with all the sexual controversies around catholic priests) and we hadnt been to a church for a LONG time. My wedding was humanist, and it just worked out that we hadnt had anyone close die and have a mass, or a baptism to attend etc.
Then we attended a catholic wedding around ~2016 and it got to the point of "peace be with you" and ALL FUCKING FOUR of us were the only ones in the church who said "and also with you" we looked at each other like this 🤨
AmputeeHandModel@reddit
What does this have to do with being Xennial? Is this not a long time tradition?
JerriBlankStare@reddit
This change happened in 2008 so Catholic Xennials grew up saying "And also with you."
mikemar05@reddit
Grew up very not religious and when we did go to church it was an Armenian church (Christian) never knew the peace be with you until I was like 25 and with my wife we went to church with her parents. I was sooooo confused on wtf was happening
YorkiesandSneakers@reddit
Jeez I’m a bit absentee. Didn’t know it had changed.
AssertivelyPurple@reddit
I still feel resentful of all the changes. I don’t care if it’s technically more accurate, it sounds super clunky and goes against a major part of my upbringing!
ConstructionHefty716@reddit
Yes the Cults programming is very strong in some
0peRightBehindYa@reddit
https://i.redd.it/4kbgdf0vjtof1.gif
TheConcreteGhost@reddit
Baptist and my brain responded correctly as soon as I read it 🤷🏾♀️
GeetchNixon@reddit
Last mass I was at was for a funeral and before that, High School. I was so confused because they updated the call and response!
“Hey look, everyone’s out of step except me!”
-the old soldier on the parade grounds
arcxjo@reddit
I went to my babcia's funeral the first time in 30 years I set foot in a Catholic church (they didn't have a bouncer so my excommunicated ass made it past the door) and was like WTAF?
TrinityKilla82@reddit
When I was like 4 and in CCD I thought everyone was saying “please be with you” 🤣
Lucky_Louch@reddit
yep we would turn to the person sitting next to us, shake their hand and say "peace be with you" "and also with you". Stopped going in the 90's so I am sure a lot has changed.
katieclooney@reddit
They keep changing it
Ok-Potato-4774@reddit
As an Episcopalian, I feel this, too.
Appropriate-Food1757@reddit
Wait they added more? (It’s been some time)
CheesyRomantic@reddit
Okay so I’m not coo coo bananas.
Wrong-Local-4283@reddit
Catholic Xennial here, also. i was raised going to Spanish Mass service, and we said espiritu (spirit) back then as well. we never had to change that. so i dont relate as much to those changes.
i didnt hear "and also with you" until i went to basic training in the Army and only had english mass options.
this is also true with the Holy Spirit. i still hear older folks say Holy Ghost outside of Mass at bible studies and such.
also, as a star wars fan, i cant help myself when someone says may the force be with you.
frawgster@reddit
“Y con su espíritu” was a common response, from those who preferred Spanish, to “peace be with you” where I attended church.
BigPoppaStrahd@reddit
Ha, i just mentioned the same thing about Star Wars
Braska_the_Third@reddit
We said the same thing growing up Presbyterian. Not just Catholics.
zoominzacks@reddit
Not catholic, but when I was a little kid my siblings and our cousins would stay at our grandparents farm for a couple weeks every summer. When the inevitable fight would break out my grandma would yell “boys boys!!! Peace be with you”
That’s my only frame of reference 😂
pfizerdiamonds@reddit
Also the correct answer to "May the Force be with You."
MintTealGecko@reddit
look at them making it all obvious I haven't been to mass in awhile
helikophis@reddit
I just say the responses I learned anyway hah
sarcasmo818@reddit
I remember not going to Mass after my parents divorced (mid-90s) and finally choosing to return when I was out of college (early-10s) and being thrown for a loop. Then realized they made the change to "And with your spirit" to be a more direct translation from the Latin (et cum spiritu tuo).
Someone else here commented about going to Mass in Spanish and it not changing and it's simply because their translation was already translated appropriately from Latin. English, I think, was the only language that saw the change.
Public-Pound-7411@reddit
Former Catholic who has done the Chreaster masses and hates the script and blocking changes here.
Nature_Hag@reddit
The first time I heard that I whipped my head around like wtf?? Huh??
Accomplished-Mud-173@reddit
Right? I definitely don't think I need to wish anyone's spirit peace when I want to wish you and your physical body that.
Adrasteia-One@reddit
I still want to say that old response after all of this time, hehe.
Objective-Dust4795@reddit
Glad to hear I’m not the only one thrown off.