Nope, 2cvs always tilt heavily in turns, they are however renowned to never flip on the side. The only Citroën with that kind of special suspension is the Xantia Activa.
They do have a trick suspension, just not the same as the DS. It was phenomenal at keeping it level forward and back, just not side to side at high speed or tight turns. For how simple it was and the application it was excellent, allowing it to traverse unpaved rutted post war roads or farmland smoothly, and cheaply.
..err MUCH slower, they tip, much, much slower..you have to be a lunatic, but too much steering lock, and game over..
..I was in the 2cv club, many years ago.. 🤐
NOT on torsion bars, they have 4 X coil springs inside a metal tube(can) mounted lengthways, below the B post, bolted to the chassis 1 tube, with 2 springs each side..
Diagram, may make more sense?
https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Citroen-2CV-suspension.png?resize=463,248
Torsion bars would have been simpler, except the steering rack is inside the front axle cross tube..
IF you really want to blow your mind, where are the front brakes?...next to the wheels? Obviously.. No, bolted to the gearbox!..well on the front obviously..well the 4x4 has the rear brakes "inboard" too...but, well...yeah, imagine something insane, Citroen tried it, often before anyone else... first front wheel drive, first "hatchback"...wild self levelling active suspension, so who needs a jack to change a wheel!..and the famous who actually needs that wheel, it'll drive with the whole wheel missing (only the rear one, obviously..but...only Citroen, oh yeah, and they did 'rotary engine on the 2CV chassis (but a different body on the top..) it never made it to full production.. but before NSU or Mazda..
Level-ish going over bumps by allowing the rear suspension to react to the front - but very little roll stiffness as they didn't interact from left to right sides.
Hehe. Would love to take take it for a spin today. Funny story. My mom drove me to kindergarden every morning. One day she left the car in the gear and clumsy as she was she forgot it by the time she came back and tried to start it. Car jumped, hit a wall and broke the grill. In couple of hours she fix it with some friends and dad never found out. Different times.
The color pattern on this one is a little bit weird though, it's seems like a "Charleston", but the colors are wrong (the original was more of a burgundy red) and the lines have incorrect curves and they don't meet the fender.
What's going on here? Is this like a paint job done by the owner?
Yea, I could see that taking over after the Escort. The Beetle can be looked at as generational. A change had to be worthwhile, and I don't mean the new ones. I didn't see that as a continuation of anything. VW seemed to want to desperately make the old ones to go away. ...and I think I just heard a vintage VW "pea-shooter" exhaust warble faded to a diesel idle as the sound effect for starting something on a tv commercial.
lol. and now a VW Bus picture is on some random game show.
A 2CV Dolly (Dolly is the paint/trim, although I don't know if it changed anything on the interior)
Getting rare now as they stopped production in 1994 - unusual for a vehicle that started production in the '40s. (Or '50s, I could be mistaken and haven't checked)
This is actually painted like a Charleston, but the red isn't original. It would have been much deeper like a burgundy.
The dolly only had its fenders painted and a matching ragtop.
Charlestons were also made in black/gray and black/yellow. The original Charleston was limited edition and had black/white upholstery. Later models came with gray cloth seats.
I actually learned how to drive in a 2cv, I still have a weakness for those weird little cars.
domovago@reddit
From outside yes. From inside it is head tilter 😆
trolllord45@reddit
I thought these had some sort of trick suspension to keep them level, no?
Temporary-Lawyer4603@reddit
Nope, 2cvs always tilt heavily in turns, they are however renowned to never flip on the side. The only Citroën with that kind of special suspension is the Xantia Activa.
Pattern_Is_Movement@reddit
They do have a trick suspension, just not the same as the DS. It was phenomenal at keeping it level forward and back, just not side to side at high speed or tight turns. For how simple it was and the application it was excellent, allowing it to traverse unpaved rutted post war roads or farmland smoothly, and cheaply.
Availablethrowaway55@reddit
...err the "flip" myth, is only going forward, in reverse then flip very (very) easily.. 😁
Temporary-Lawyer4603@reddit
Yes, obviously. In normal use, you rarely take turns at max speed in reverse...
Availablethrowaway55@reddit
..err MUCH slower, they tip, much, much slower..you have to be a lunatic, but too much steering lock, and game over.. ..I was in the 2cv club, many years ago.. 🤐
domovago@reddit
Honestly I don't know if this specific model, but Citroen did had some suspention innovations.
ArcticBlaster@reddit
Yeah, no. The DS, the expensive one got hydropneumatic, the 2cv got de Dion torsion bars.
Availablethrowaway55@reddit
NOT on torsion bars, they have 4 X coil springs inside a metal tube(can) mounted lengthways, below the B post, bolted to the chassis 1 tube, with 2 springs each side..
Diagram, may make more sense? https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Citroen-2CV-suspension.png?resize=463,248
Aniquin@reddit
That's still a pretty interesting suspension even though it's not the fancy hydropneumatic system
Availablethrowaway55@reddit
It was.. "utilitarian" cheap 😂
Torsion bars would have been simpler, except the steering rack is inside the front axle cross tube..
IF you really want to blow your mind, where are the front brakes?...next to the wheels? Obviously.. No, bolted to the gearbox!..well on the front obviously..well the 4x4 has the rear brakes "inboard" too...but, well...yeah, imagine something insane, Citroen tried it, often before anyone else... first front wheel drive, first "hatchback"...wild self levelling active suspension, so who needs a jack to change a wheel!..and the famous who actually needs that wheel, it'll drive with the whole wheel missing (only the rear one, obviously..but...only Citroen, oh yeah, and they did 'rotary engine on the 2CV chassis (but a different body on the top..) it never made it to full production.. but before NSU or Mazda..
Yes, you found the Citroen geek..
3_14159td@reddit
Level-ish going over bumps by allowing the rear suspension to react to the front - but very little roll stiffness as they didn't interact from left to right sides.
-Teapot@reddit
A sight to behold in roundabouts
domovago@reddit
Yea. We had Renault 4 when I was a kid. Same tilting feature.
-Teapot@reddit
My first car! The shifter made me feel like l was driving a rally car (it obviously wasn’t one). I miss it so much
domovago@reddit
Hehe. Would love to take take it for a spin today. Funny story. My mom drove me to kindergarden every morning. One day she left the car in the gear and clumsy as she was she forgot it by the time she came back and tried to start it. Car jumped, hit a wall and broke the grill. In couple of hours she fix it with some friends and dad never found out. Different times.
syntheticsapphire@reddit
love a 2cv.
SchreiberBike@reddit
There's something about the whole Citroën line. Ugly and beautiful, practical and whimsical, at the same time.
Kindainappropriate_@reddit
I love 2cv, it's a timeless design.
The color pattern on this one is a little bit weird though, it's seems like a "Charleston", but the colors are wrong (the original was more of a burgundy red) and the lines have incorrect curves and they don't meet the fender.
What's going on here? Is this like a paint job done by the owner?
Apprehensive-File700@reddit
I just noticed Bugatti copied the Chiron design from Citroen 🤯
Czeslaw_Meyer@reddit
I guess those are far more rare in the US.
I see them as frequently as Beatles.
Jlx_27@reddit
Ha, love that typo.
Czeslaw_Meyer@reddit
I will keep that one
ShitBritGit@reddit
A good question - are these rarer than a VW Beetle? Certainly would be in the US, but in Europe?
olizet42@reddit
Both Beetle ans 2CV are as rare as a unicorn nowadays. But in the 70s and 80s they were everywhere.
wasabi1787@reddit
I see original Beetles fairly often. Maybe not weekly, but probably monthly. The original beetle is the best selling car model of all time, after all.
However, I live in the states and I've never seen a 2CV in my life so experiences may vary
MurphysRazor@reddit
One of them. I think the Ford Escorts may have reclaimed the crown after Ford Model Ts gave it up to the old Bug.
wasabi1787@reddit
Corolla I believe, but that encompasses many generations. For a single generation it is still the beetle
MurphysRazor@reddit
Yea, I could see that taking over after the Escort. The Beetle can be looked at as generational. A change had to be worthwhile, and I don't mean the new ones. I didn't see that as a continuation of anything. VW seemed to want to desperately make the old ones to go away. ...and I think I just heard a vintage VW "pea-shooter" exhaust warble faded to a diesel idle as the sound effect for starting something on a tv commercial. lol. and now a VW Bus picture is on some random game show.
EmotionalWelcome5555@reddit
Im french and i see 2cv quiet often in here especially in the south
olizet42@reddit
Yeah because you have a nice and dry south. In Germany the south is different.
Senappi@reddit
Considering Beatels disbanded in 1970 and half of the members are dead, it sounds like those little Citroëns are a rare sight for you
Redbeard_Rum@reddit
You mis-spelled "Beatles" when making a joke about their mis-spelling of "Beetles". That's quite an achievement.
Czeslaw_Meyer@reddit
You son of a Smart Fortwo
model-citizen95@reddit
That’s a Citroen 2CV. They’re rare everywhere because they rust like hell
Jlx_27@reddit
Not weird, very fucking cool.
mini4x@reddit
Thats a def a Bugatti, right?
ShitBritGit@reddit
A 2CV Dolly (Dolly is the paint/trim, although I don't know if it changed anything on the interior)
Getting rare now as they stopped production in 1994 - unusual for a vehicle that started production in the '40s. (Or '50s, I could be mistaken and haven't checked)
Freakilla@reddit
I had a Dolly too, strawberries and cream. I regret selling it, absolute blast to drive
wbr3@reddit
This is actually painted like a Charleston, but the red isn't original. It would have been much deeper like a burgundy. The dolly only had its fenders painted and a matching ragtop. Charlestons were also made in black/gray and black/yellow. The original Charleston was limited edition and had black/white upholstery. Later models came with gray cloth seats. I actually learned how to drive in a 2cv, I still have a weakness for those weird little cars.
Horror-Raisin-877@reddit
1948
RodCherokee@reddit
A fairly crazy friend of my mom used to take me for rides in hers as a child - unforgettable ! And she had no limits…
bio2451@reddit
Is this what inspired the Chiron ?
DoubleT2455@reddit
Thats the fanciest 2CV I've ever seen, love it.
One_Relief1826@reddit
I think that's a little early for Halloween Mr. 2CV. But that doesnt matter now.
Nalabu1@reddit
Whenever I see one I think of this -> https://youtu.be/kvVtn2wYr6w?si=47vvTPwUA-tASHGg
Big-Manufacturer-738@reddit
My mum used to have one : Citroën Charleston . Nostalgia, 40isch years ago
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