State Fair of Texas discontinues free tickets for high schoolers
Posted by Ferrari_McFly@reddit | Dallas | View on Reddit | 140 comments
Posted by Ferrari_McFly@reddit | Dallas | View on Reddit | 140 comments
Perky214@reddit
My parents never took me to the fair when I was a kid. It was a miserable 3 weeks w erg year knowing that the fair was going on, and my parents would t take me because Dallas was “too far away” (30 miles, gimme a break).
It’s important to have that fair day and the free ticket, especially for kids whose parents aren’t SFT nuts.
As a student at UT, I got to go to my first state fair as a freshman when the last number of my student ID number was picked to draw TX-OU student tickets, which came with free admission to the fair. I was hooked.
When my kids were little, we would go 6 times a year - on three-for-free Wednesday and Dr Pepper $2 Tuesdays. Once they were in high school, we were going 1-2 times a year plus the school day - that free ticket for every school child in Texas was a great thing, because it opened the fair to EVERYONE.
I’m sad for the overwhelming majority of good kids in HS who won’t be able to go to the fair for free anymore because of the actions of a few teenaged jerks -
“The state fair of Texas is for me and not for thee” is not something I ever thought would be said to any Texan.
Tele_HB_1313@reddit
Dude black people were only allowed to go on one particular day every year until 1967. Among other things there have been many “not for thee” events associated with the fair throughout its history.
DaresToLive@reddit
You just went to sight see or bought stuff because the prices are so fucken out of this world. Shit I don’t even want to go if it’s free.
bratty_bubbles@reddit
the fact that people are justifying this disgusting decision with “the kids have gotten bad lately”…are you serious? the teen pregnancy epidemic of the early 2000s, the 90s drug issues, the extreme bullying in the 80s…kids are kids every era and these kids are no worse. they deserve access to things for free. the difference was, adults in other eras actually had the brain to realize this.
Dealmesometendies@reddit
They really are fucking these kids.
Return-of-Trademark@reddit
My tinfoil hat makes me wonder if they’re masking this as a safety issue but really just want to get more money
Powerful_Trip3003@reddit
This needed to happen. Too many fights.
JonasSharra@reddit
So safety concerns means we will ban high schoolers but not guns... Got it.
Various_Mode_519@reddit
Teenagers ruin free events all the time being reckless and rowdy. It’s not just fairs it’s concerts, all kinds of gatherings. Today’s teens are not like before.
saysthingsbackwards@reddit
back in my day we just beat our teens until they ran away from home. That'll learn em
JoshS1@reddit
Don't know why this downvoted, but it also happens today and may Korea often than youd think.
I did 12 yers in the military and never assumed any of my troops had plans to go home for holidays. So if we weren't working I always invited them over to hangout, play games, eat some food, or whatever. They might not have a "home" to go back to. I could relate to that I had one grandparent left, no relationship with my parents, no cousins, and little in common with my siblings. After around 3-4 years I realized no one was making any attemp to come see me so I stopped going back to the place I ran away from.
Various_Mode_519@reddit
Sorry that happened to you?
WigglingWeiner99@reddit
The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
JoshS1@reddit
Lol what leave it to beaver bull shit are you on about? Cross their legs? What does that have to do with anything? Servants of their household? Sorry I didn't realize kids were asking to be born into slavery...
You're just saying some dumb shit with no basis in reality. This is some shit my dad would say on Facebook while certainly never making an attempt to raise me that way nor was he raised that way. Just delusional horse shit.
-pettyhatemachine-@reddit
That is a famous philosopher's quote who was Greek (I think Plato) commenting on children from his time. People like to bring this quote up to show that adults have always complained about the same thing for today's youth.
JoshS1@reddit
Ahh, so it's used sarcastically?
WigglingWeiner99@reddit
It's Socrates, and yes it's a bit of joke pointing out that complaints about "kids these days" stretches back literal millenia.
JoshS1@reddit
TIL, thanks.
-pettyhatemachine-@reddit
I would say so.
Various_Mode_519@reddit
There are no places for them to truly exist and be teens. They will also go into free/low cost to entry spaces with majority adults and cause a lot of mayhem because of the media they consume shows live streamers, YouTubers and/or rappers gathering in large groups over capacity or harassing the public for content, clicks, and views.
JonasSharra@reddit
Ok boomer.
Various_Mode_519@reddit
You have a daughter. You’re older than me 😭😭
Viper_ACR@reddit
TX state fair literally banned licensed LTC holders from carrying in the state far as of last year.
Which itself was in response to someone *without* an LTC (i.e. someone who shouldn't have been let into the State Fair with a gun) shooting 2 other people after an altercation between the 2 groups.
Altruistic_Guess3098@reddit
I mean the guy who acted criminally with his firearm wasn't going to follow the law anyway? Shocking.
Viper_ACR@reddit
I know right
truth-4-sale@reddit
How Safe it will be in the Gun Free Zone ! ! !
Altruistic_Guess3098@reddit
High schoolers getting free tickets to the fair isn't enshrined in the Constitution and it doesn't have a panel of supreme Court judges that will absolutely block any attempts to change that constitution.
truth-4-sale@reddit
I guess screening for guns is just too hard for contract employees.
smokybbq90@reddit
The State Fair was literally sued for not allowing firearms, and a Texas senator tried to pass a bill banning the Fair from not allowing guns in.
JonasSharra@reddit
That's the point I'm making
karl0525@reddit
Never going back. Pay to park$$$, Gate fee$$$, Very crowded and long lines at the rides and expensive $$$. Food$$$. Not a fair experience. Just a $$$ grab
Disastrous-Price-399@reddit
I loved getting those free tickets from school as a kid. That's a damn shame.
JoshS1@reddit
But you were not showing up with 200 of your social media flash mob to fight random people and have a shootout for no reason.
I get it, but a few people are ruining a good thing for a lot of people.
michigannfa90@reddit
That’s literally called society… it’s what happens unfortunately
Montallas@reddit
But it doesn’t have to be how society functions.
michigannfa90@reddit
While I agree in a perfect world everyone looks for “someone to blame” or “to prevent it from happening again” and that attitude is EXACTLY what causes this behavior.
But we have chosen to “prevent” things rather than to “punish” things in the last few decades so here we are
ada_weird@reddit
From my understanding, punishment doesn't help with prevention. The goal isn't to get revenge, it's to keep people safe. A punishment that doesn't prevent future offenses is just pointless sadism.
michigannfa90@reddit
Punishment is a deterrent… “if I do this then I go to jail for X years” or “lose x amount of money”… literally been that way for all of mankind’s history. To think you can fully prevent anything when humans involved is hilariously delusional.
saysthingsbackwards@reddit
It's been proven over and over again that punishment only breeds resentment for the one doing the punishing. Reward systems that utilize it in a way for rehabilitation are pretty much the trier and true, but everyone works at different rates.
michigannfa90@reddit
lol the victim is entitled to resentment not the person who committed the crime
saysthingsbackwards@reddit
that's what I meant
ada_weird@reddit
That's a strawman. What I said wasn't that there should be no consequences or that we can fully prevent every single problem that can arise. What I said was that focusing on prevention rather than punishment is the correct thing to do. Punishment for the sake of punishment is an act of pure id and has no place in a functioning society.
TeaKingMac@reddit
Young adults have a very hard time reasoning through consequences.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK53414/#:~:text=The%20physical%20and%20biochemical%20development,humans%20may%20originally%20have%20adapted
Want2BnOre@reddit
Unfortunately many people are no longer properly socialized as children. Then as adults don’t know how to act in social settings. Til something gives, It’s going to get worse with each succeeding generation.
Deathwatch72@reddit
If the stated reason of less than 10% being used is true than what you just said definitely wasn't happening that often
Rakebleed@reddit
One time is too many we don’t have to have a tolerance level.
Altruistic_Guess3098@reddit
Do we apply that universally? A lot of young people drive recklessly... Should we take away the ability for teenagers to get driver's licenses?
deja-roo@reddit
"One time is too many" is a useless sentiment. Pretty much nothing is going to happen zero times. The problem is how often it's happening, not that it's happened ever.
hunnyflash@reddit
We made the mistake of going on the free day once and going later in the day. Absolutely never again.
Jazz_Chicken@reddit
Its only high school. 8th grade and below still get their tickets.
ingrediental@reddit
Good! Kids are annoying!
RepresentativeMap926@reddit
Trying to keep all the nonsense out of it. Seems like a pretty smart business decision.
Altruistic_Guess3098@reddit
Six flags is better and safer anyway
Unlucky-Watercress30@reddit
Man they really just trying to kill the fair more and more every year, arent they? Its already hideously expensive just with concessions and parking. This is gonna hurt business more than help but executives never think about that until after destroying the reputation beyond any hope of recovery.
Herry_Up@reddit
I'm sorry, huh? I know more ppl who refuse to go because they don't wanna be around asshole high schoolers acting up starting drama. This is not gonna hurt anyone.
truth-4-sale@reddit
Trump can make the State Fair safe again.
Herry_Up@reddit
Shut yo bitch ass up
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H0-JU@reddit
They buy food. Talk to the vendors ask them how they feel about losing sales.
smokybbq90@reddit
I'd be very surprised if teens buy anything while at the fair
Viper_ACR@reddit
They may buy a ride and a soda and that's it
Herry_Up@reddit
And it'll be made up by the people and families who will come back to the fair.
gr0uchyMofo@reddit
Fuck those teens that create hysteria at the midway when they start creating panic by shouting about a gun in the crowd.
peachporpoise@reddit
Honestly people should just take DART to the fair…And the high school kids I knew who were there free were not purchasing things rather than screwing around and taking pics.
Surfnazi77@reddit
They said something like 10% of the tickets were redeemed. Maybe they’ll make a change for next season where you apply for free ticket but who knows since the operators of the state fair are private.
that_guys_posse@reddit
TBH it sounds like the change that requires them to cover all the DPD costs is probably the biggest issue--it leaves the fair in a situation where they need to cut costs where they can.
From some research (I mostly looked at the council on criminal justice's page for info FWIW) it looks like, overall, juvenile crime is lower that it was in years past and it hit a low in 2020--but it has been ticking upwards since then and there has been some indications that social media has lead some younger people to participate in 'flash mob' style criminal behavior (we've all probably seen people block off the highway for drifting/racing/etc. and there are incidents of flash mob fights and things like that) so the fair is certainly an easy target for stuff like that and would explain the fair's report that there's been an uptick in incidents.
Plus, they mention the unpredictable spikes which makes sense--if the fair is used to keeping low staffing (including security) during the day and then a large group of high schoolers all come then that can throw things for a loop.
I imagine the printing costs and the low usage aren't really the biggest concerns--it's the need to cut costs where possible and they don't want to maintain a higher than necessary staff/security level at all times on the off chance a huge group of teens will randomly flood the fair. This probably allows them to more accurately predict when attendance will be high/low so they can staff accordingly.
It sucks, but I get it
JoshS1@reddit
Just restrict it to kids in top 10% of their class.
MetalAngelo7@reddit
That’s how u create a black market in school lol
high_everyone@reddit
There's probably a bigger market for Fortnite season pass cards than there ever would be for a single state fair ticket under those conditions.
711SushiChef@reddit
Top 10% probably aren't going to the state fair
rxaxa@reddit
As someone who was in the top 5%, we definitely went to the fair
JKinney79@reddit
Apparently having high test scores means you can’t enjoy a corny dog and ferris wheel ride.
jamesdukeiv@reddit
I was smart but too poor to spend money at the fair so I never went lol
711SushiChef@reddit
Wilmer Hutchins' top 5% doesn't count
rxaxa@reddit
I’m in medical school now. Top 5% counts regardless of where it is.
711SushiChef@reddit
PA school isn't medical school, so I guess where it is does matter!
rxaxa@reddit
I had numerous options 😂 and I CHOSE pa school for my work life balance. Get a grip
711SushiChef@reddit
That's nice. It's not medical school.
AngryyFerret@reddit
are you in medical school?
were you in the top 5% of your class?
just wondering why you’re so invested in these folks lives
711SushiChef@reddit
No, which is why I don't claim I'm in or went tonmedical school.
Yes. Why does that matter?
They replied, giving their qualifications, I responded. Is it unclear why I responded to that?
mondo_d00k@reddit
Literally a public forum where people reply to comments 😂
Cinnamon_Bark@reddit
Finishing top 5% at [insert name of your highschool here] doesnt count 🤭
AngryyFerret@reddit
so, you didn’t go to the state fair?
711SushiChef@reddit
Nope
FromTheDeskOfJAW@reddit
Why are you being so combative?
711SushiChef@reddit
Replying is combative?
FromTheDeskOfJAW@reddit
Replying isn’t combative, but you’re being an asshole for no reason
711SushiChef@reddit
I was under the impression that someone replied with how smart they were, evidenced by their attending medical school, and I pointed out they didn't attend medical school. Is a statement of fact being an asshole now?
FromTheDeskOfJAW@reddit
The first thing you said was that top 10% students don’t go to the fair (without evidence, probably based on some stereotype?), then when someone replied to you pointing out that that’s not true, you immediately insulted an entire high school claiming that top 10 in that school doesn’t count for some reason. So yes, you’re being an asshole.
711SushiChef@reddit
So, PA school is medical school now?
FromTheDeskOfJAW@reddit
Literally when did I say that? You are deliberately trying to diminish someone’s accomplishments for…what purpose? To feel good about yourself?
711SushiChef@reddit
Claiming you went to medical school when you didn't is an accomplishment?
FromTheDeskOfJAW@reddit
Claiming that being top 10% of any school doesn’t count when it actually does isn’t being an asshole?
GTFO troll
711SushiChef@reddit
What does that have to do with claiming you went to medical school when you didn't go to medical school?
FromTheDeskOfJAW@reddit
Care to read usernames? I’m not the person you responded to, idiot.
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711SushiChef@reddit
I mean you in the general sense. What does being in the top 10% have to do with anyone saying they went to medical school when they didn't go to medical school?
It would seem that a personal claiming they went to medical school when they didn't would be less likely to be in the top 10%, though.
DeepFriedCocoaButter@reddit
Usually people with actual accomplishments aren't so concerned with gatekeeping the vaunted class of...high school graduates with pretty good grades
WinterDependent3478@reddit
Why not?
BloodyNora78@reddit
Those kids don't have time to go to the State Fair
NewRoryAndMalDrop@reddit
Were you in the top 10 of your class?
JoshS1@reddit
Nope, and younger me would have just been an annoying little shit there.
3-DMan@reddit
They'll just get beat up by the bottom 10% and get their tickets taken. But I guess still less kids!
Powerful_Mango_3746@reddit
The end of an ERA. I’ve never paid to go, and I stopped going after graduation bc it was just a lil too pricy. It also gives families an excuse to go! What a sad day
detox02@reddit
State fair : “ fuck them kids”
DaresToLive@reddit
Loosing more money than making ey? Is it really a safety concern or is it a monetary issue?
No_Bend8@reddit
The internet and social media has caused society to regress. The drama and security issues are a real problem.
DaresToLive@reddit
Here to say it’s the Parents fault
truth-4-sale@reddit
They should spend city resources on cameras to monitor people going in to see if they are screened properly. We still don't know how the shooter got in with a gun.
rockstar504@reddit
ok, put me down as 'who cares'
Big_Service7471@reddit
Teenagers must be a huge revenue stream for rides, games and food. I wonder if they really thought about the ramifications of the spending power lost.
mPisi@reddit
Sarcasm? Dwarfed by the lost revenue from regular folks avoiding the free days like the plague - tickets, parking, and vendors.
WatchLover26@reddit
Who even goes to this stupid thing? Been here 27 years and never gone once.
claudial12@reddit
If you've never been how do you know it's stupid? What does that even mean? You've been here 27 years and have never once gone just to see what there is? Lame.
myshellly@reddit
Last year 2,385,855 people went.
saplinglearningsucks@reddit
lots of people do?
DosCabezasDingo@reddit
Still offering free tickets through 8th grade. Safety concerns listed, I guess too many high school kids getting dropped off and running wild.
Still sucks to see it discontinued.
selfiecritic@reddit
If you ever have been to the fair on fair day after 5pm, this probably makes a lot of sense
Snobolski@reddit
Pretty much every day is "fair day" for some school district.
theoriginalmofocus@reddit
Was there years ago at the food court waiting for my wife and sister to come out of the bathroom. Suddenly theres a panic and everyone is fleeing and running scared. I kind of pushed them back in the bathroom and stood outside and watched it was indeed a bunch of highschool looking, all wearing baggy white tees, dudes running in there to i guess fight eachother? Cops instantly there, umm, issuing gravity to them if you will. Staff said it was happening every night. As packed as everything is now i can only imagine the chaos.
BABarracus@reddit
The train drops them off parents are at work
texmexspex@reddit
Kids need to learn quick what “a few can ruin it for the rest of us”. AKA the Tragedy of the Commons
Powerful-Duck6889@reddit
Where do you redeem free tickets? On the site it says tickets for kids have a cost associated. 2 and under are free.
smokybbq90@reddit
Schools in DFW have Fair Days
Correct_Difficulty25@reddit
Schools passing out fairday tickets to students
Particular-Loan5123@reddit
Well, that’s something
iwillsumday@reddit
I will probably get downvoted but I’m honestly shocked people care so much about this. I gave away my free tickets whenever I could. The fair was for people who wanted to waste their day off lol
FunLengthiness8268@reddit
megaphone speaker Howdy!!
Past-Negotiation7025@reddit
Sad to see this
texmexspex@reddit
Kids need to learn quick what “a few can ruin it for the rest of us”. AKA the Tragedy of the Commons
b_bear_69@reddit
A classmate got in trouble for jumping into the reflecting pool on Fair Day. We were a pretty wild bunch for the early 1960s.
csonnich@reddit
Absolute mad lads.
Far0nWoods@reddit
Well that's unfortunate...
Kevinmc479@reddit
This is an outrage !
tue2day@reddit
welp. good thing i used em while i got em...sorry kids
Vegetable_Owl_3553@reddit
Now that’s bullhonky
mental_midgets@reddit
The State Fair discontinues being special for all the kids in NTX.
NightGod@reddit
All high schoolers* (still free through 8th grade)
NewRoryAndMalDrop@reddit
That is absolutely horrible. Like fucking horrible
Particular-Loan5123@reddit
What??? Such a shame. Great memory of my youth, even though I took it for granted for many years. High school date at the the Texas state fair with corny dogs, and salt water taffy is a rite of passage