When England Actually Rocked That One Time...

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thetrappster@reddit

We're talking about Bush here. In the meantime...

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bloomsday289@reddit

That one time? Have you met England?!

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RangeLife79@reddit

England has rocked many, many times. This is the album you pick???

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From the 90s? As a grunge fan, Bush easily fit right in with Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, etc. Radiohead and Space Hog come to mind as decent Brit rock bands, but totally a different wave length away from grunge. But what, Oasis? Blur? The Verve? [Aka the wannabe Beatles, Sex Pistols and Stones] No, I think Bush was the stand out for loud grunge.

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cyberllama@reddit

Jesus & Mary Chain.

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FKSSR@reddit

Literally Heavy Metal came from England. 😋

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South_Dakota_Boy@reddit

The old wave AND the new wave.

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Unending-Flexionator@reddit

dont forget proto: hendrix, the who, zep

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northsiderag@reddit

Jimi is from Seattle WA

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khz30@reddit

But his career didn't take off until arriving in London.

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psyclopsus@reddit

By that logic The Beatles weren’t shit until they came to America

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fractals83@reddit

They were already famous before coming to America, Jimi was a nobody who got his break in the UK.

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Lack-Trick@reddit

I wouldn’t say he was a nobody. He was in Curtis Mayfield and Little Richard’s bands before he moved to the UK

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missinglabchimp@reddit

The other Jimi Hendrix Experience members are British - manager too, who even got Jimi to go with the name "Jimi", signed him to The Who's British label etc etc. Jimi is 100% American but The Experience is a British band

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Unending-Flexionator@reddit

Well I know at least The Who!! lol

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fns1981@reddit

Bowie. Sex Pistols. And those 4 dudes from Liverpool. Can't remember what they're called for the life of me.

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Unending-Flexionator@reddit

I'm a big bowie fan. Later deep cut stuff, off the Black Tie White Noise album. NIN crossovers. I love the classic material but I like his weirder mid career electronic rock stuff. plus black star was le magnifique.

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FluxusFlotsam@reddit

UFO!!!

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DrLaneDownUnder@reddit

Paul McCartney, writing a song: “why don’t I fart out an entire new genre with this one?”

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solexioso@reddit

Unfortunately that genre was Wings and Wings fucking sucked ass! Paul McCartney is the fucking lamest Beatle!

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Adgvyb3456@reddit

Sort of. The term was first coined by Stepenwolf. And while Sabbath And Zepplin at the OG’s. Cooper and Mountain and Iron Butterfly are viable candidates who pushed the genre in that direction.

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tomqvaxy@reddit

Seriously. The time for stupid statements is apparently upon us.

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Cool_Dark_Place@reddit

Lol... the bastsrds took American Blues and literally sent back almost every other genre of rock!

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DrLaneDownUnder@reddit

And many of the early British rock stars worked hard to get recognition for the black artists that inspired them.

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Remcin@reddit

Did they or was that just the Stones?

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Cararacs@reddit

Bowie did more than the the stones. Bowie actually called out mtv during an interview.

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Remcin@reddit

I don’t know if it’s more or less, but it’s also a great thing.

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Dan_Berg@reddit

On the Beatles' first US tour they refused to play any venues that tried to bar opening act The Ronettes because they were black. They were always very vocal about giving their influences props in public and covered several songs by black artists.

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Remcin@reddit

Cool!

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DrLaneDownUnder@reddit

That's a good point. The Stones were such a big force, it may have just been them.

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fns1981@reddit

That look on Bowie's face when he called out MTV for ignoring black artists is on my mood board forever

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Cararacs@reddit

Well rock n roll was invented in US, not England. Blues and rock n roll happening on the US inspired artists in England, but those bands would not exist if not for the OG rock n rollers in the US.

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pagesid3@reddit

For the population size of England they have to have a more successful rock bands per capita than America

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Prairie2Pacific@reddit

Sure, they gave us Phil Collins, but what have they given us since?

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Green_Wyvern17@reddit (OP)

I have never met a country.

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kippismn@reddit

Bush sucks donkey balls.

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thetrappster@reddit

Bush sucks and England had a string of incredible rock bands. Led Zeppelin? Pink Floyd? Rolling Stones? The Who? Black Sabbath? Deep Purple? Judas Priest? Motorhead? Fleetwood Mac? Def Leppard? The Yardbirds? Cream? Eric Clapton? The Moody Blues? King Crimson? Genesis? The mf'ing Beatles? Queen? David Bowie? Elton John?

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ItComeAFlood@reddit

Bush was great when I was an antsy 15 year old. Now I listen and just think WTF are those lyrics

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_1JackMove@reddit

Thank you for throwing the Yardbirds in there. Jeff Beck is the best guitarist England ever produced. Clapton and Page are a pale comparison to that dudes talent. Heart Full of Soul is a favorite.

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mindpivot@reddit

Hey there was also that time he helped ruin Constantine

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CharlieKellyKapowski@reddit

Don’t forget Radiohead, Oasis, Arctic Monkeys

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bikeonychus@reddit

I remember being at university when I first saw Arctic Monkeys mentioned in some sort of new artists article in NME with a bunch of other bands. It was before they had an accessible EP, and were handing out CDs they'd burned themselves at gigs, so of course you could download a bunch of their early stuff, because people were uploading those CDs to the internet. They were from my mum's home city and the area she grew up in, and it was some local sheffield youth music project that got them started. I'm still really happy to see them doing so well.

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PastPotatoes@reddit

Everything Zen introduced us to a fresh grunge sound as Pearl Jam veered wherever they went, Soundgarden drowned in alcohol, Nirvana passed, and Alice in chains slowed it down even further into depression.

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HYThrowaway1980@reddit

This is ragebait right? OP is getting ratioed.

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Green_Wyvern17@reddit (OP)

I did not intend it to be...but it sure sparked some conversations

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GardenRafters@reddit

That's because a million great bands have come out of England and you look like a total dumbass, and actually have the nerve to double down...

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HYThrowaway1980@reddit

If his av is anything to go by, he’s Welsh, and there’s nothing a Taffy likes more than riling up their cousins on the other side of Offa’s Dyke. (To be fair Wales have had more than their fair share of amazing bands, especially in the 90’s)

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cyberllama@reddit

He is not Welsh.

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ThorGanjasson@reddit

His double down is unfunny jokes and worse opinions - which is actually unintentionally hilarious. Dude thinks he is the main character lol

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zekerthedog@reddit

It’s just an insanely uninformed thing to post.

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Maleficent_Gas5417@reddit

“That one time” lmao

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SlackerDS5@reddit

Of all the “England” bands that “rocked”, you picked Bush? Gtfoh.

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crystalcastles13@reddit

England’s been rocking for much longer than this my friend-ever heard of Black Sabbath, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, The Who, The Clash, The Sex Pistols, Led Zeppelin, and I could literally spend the rest of this beautiful day listing incredible, heavy handed British bands right up til today with talent like The Chemical Brothers, Arctic Monkeys, Radiohead, The Kills, Kasabian, The Stone Roses, Death In Vegas, The Cure, Bloc Party, Frank Ferdinand, and I’ll go ahead and stop there. Bush was a good band but the Brits were killing it before then and will be killing til time stops.

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Vorpal_Bunny19@reddit

![gif](giphy|AAp9e2itrBW6Y) Pretty sure this dude rocked. (Happy birthday Freddie)

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VashMM@reddit

Wait, was it his birthday today?

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csonnich@reddit

Yep. Woulda been 79.

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FoppyDidNothingWrong@reddit

Great CD, played the shit out of it. I enjoyed Razorblade suitcase for a week then Bush was done!

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Lowspark1013@reddit

Bush sucked as much as your take on British rock.

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s_nation@reddit

Gavin's a Temu Eddie Vedder who cheated on Gwen Stefani

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chazysciota@reddit

I mean he is, but Gwen always sucked even if we didn’t realize it at the time.

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Soma2710@reddit

Hearing “Don’t Speak” at the skating rink is a core memory.

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thebeaverchair@reddit

For real... The Kinks, The Animals, Cream, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, The Who, Queen, Status Quo, Motorhead, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, The Sex Pistols, The Clash, Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Fall, Gang of Four, The Pogues, Carcass, Napalm Death... Thank the gods Bush came along to save England from that 30 year snoozefest!

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home_rechre@reddit

And to pick Bush of all bands lol. Never even made a good album.

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Gregorwhat@reddit

Thank you. I’ve never been so triggered by a title. How in the fuck did this post get upvotes?

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DreamsAndSchemes@reddit

I get nostalgic with them, they were the first rock band I regularly listened to, but in hindsight you’re not wrong

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cryptolipto@reddit

For real. Gotta downvote OP just out of principle

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Degtyrev@reddit

Add The Zombies, Duran Duran, The Smiths, Depeche Mode, The Police, Eurythmics, The Human League,The Cure, Sqeeze, Genesis, Yes...

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TelevisionKooky3041@reddit

Thank you for mentioning Napalm Death. I would also add Cabaret Voltaire, Head of David, Godflesh and Throbbing Gristle to the list.

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Amazing-Basket-136@reddit

Did God Save the Queen?

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Trashusdeadeye@reddit

That album was perfect.

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punkrawkchick@reddit

Saying Bush was the one time England rocked is a fuckin hot take.

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GrizznessOnly@reddit

Rage bait

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Adrasteia-One@reddit

As much as I loved their direction on The Science of Things, this album is still my favorite. Many bangers!

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DarthBster@reddit

I got hooked as soon as I heard Everything Zen. Got to see them on tour with Hum and Toadies. It was amazing.

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HomelessKitchenCat@reddit

Thats awesome, what a lineup. Hum was so unique for their time. They released an album recently too in case ya missed it.

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Adrasteia-One@reddit

That album came exactly when we all needed it!

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GenghisConnieChung@reddit

Saw them touring this album in Toronto. Great show.

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bdwf@reddit

Hum are so good

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jarosity@reddit

Hum were so good that they made me want to see what was going on in Champaign Urbana.

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Beetso@reddit

Veruca salt opened for them when I saw them in LA in '97. Good show!

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DarthBster@reddit

Nice. I saw Veruca Salt in 97 or 98. They were awesome too.

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Adrasteia-One@reddit

Holy crap, that is a killer lineup! My 15-year-old self is so envious, hehe. Hum is an amazing band who really deserves more accolades.

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TheBr0fessor@reddit

Ayyoooo I got to usher that show when they played at The Warfield in San Francisco. My favorite bit of lore is that in Captain Marvel when she wakes up after throwing down in Blockbuster there's a poster for that show on the bulletin board -- in SoCal WTF!? There's no way they would advertise a NorCal show all the way down there. I actually had that same poster on my door until I graduated high school. I totally did the "DiCaprio pointing at tv meme" in the theater when I saw it!! 🤣

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Green_Wyvern17@reddit (OP)

Machine Head will play at my funeral lol

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SkeltonJustCalled@reddit

It's better than the rest

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throwaway04182023@reddit

Green to red

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chazysciota@reddit

Buzz Osborne he ain’t.

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therustysmear@reddit

have you ever tried the breathing game to that song?

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Cutthechitchata-hole@reddit

Have you had any luck deciphering the lyrics though? Im still unsure what each song was about.

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PandableClaw@reddit

Just revisited for the first time in a long time. Front to back it holds up. Found myself grooving extra hard to deeper cuts Swim, Bomb and Body

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ChesterCopp@reddit

Per capita despite some huge bands, most of English music sucks.

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Thamnophis660@reddit

I liked most of this album, but dude Judas Priest, not to mention many, many other awesome rock bands are from England.

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TenYearHangover@reddit

TBF, if you’ve never heard any music in your life, and you woke up in December 1994 England, and you heard this album next to Parklife — you might believe that this album ‘rocked’

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slappy_mcslapenstein@reddit

Ha! That's actually the album I was listening to in the car yesterday. It's a great album but to say it's the only time an English band rocked is pure ignorance. There have been countless English bands that were and are amazing. It sounds like you need to expand your listening, OP.

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geese_moe_howard@reddit

You need to listen to The Wildhearts, mate.

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Crabcakefrosti@reddit

Everything Zen? I don’t think so

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Jingoisticbell@reddit

It’s better than the rest.

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Green_Wyvern17@reddit (OP)

You mean Radio Head don't you? Lol

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chazysciota@reddit

You can’t be this dense.

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Jingoisticbell@reddit

I don’t.

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_Face@reddit

OP's had a few swings and misses in here.

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EconomistSea1444@reddit

Swings and misses? OP tripped, sprained their ankle and fell flat on their face before they could even make it out of the dugout.

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Independent_Toe5722@reddit

Maybe they should fly to Los Angeles. Find their asshole brother.

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Unit_79@reddit

Flawed right from the jump.

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great_auks@reddit

It's a lyric from a song on this album... ![gif](giphy|vwI4mYEHP8k0w)

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Winston_Smith-1984@reddit

The this has to be rage bait .

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bikeonychus@reddit

Bloody hell mate, the post title actually made me wince. Maybe have a look at where a significant number of well-known Punk, Metal, and Rock artists and bands originated, and write that again. This is like when Americans try to claim Queen. Absolute disrespect.

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DrLaneDownUnder@reddit

lol you chose violence today.

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Green_Wyvern17@reddit (OP)

An opinion is not violence

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ThorGanjasson@reddit

“When England actually rocked” - might be the most definitive statement confirming someone to be a moron…ever. Continue to Dunning Kruger through life, my guy lol

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vbm@reddit

That opinion is

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Sea_Original_906@reddit

Blur was better.

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jramsi20@reddit

You've all been had - they wanted music recommendations and knew this was the best way to get them

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OctoWings13@reddit

* Black Sabbath have entered the chat

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Green_Wyvern17@reddit (OP)

I'll give you iron man, that rocked

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GardenRafters@reddit

You should delete this post dude...

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kapaipiekai@reddit

War Pigs is a god damned masterpiece.

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Amazing-Basket-136@reddit

Jethro Tull, Iron Maiden, Pink Floyd, The Stones, etc etc. Personally a pretty big Bowie fan.

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GardenRafters@reddit

Huh? Bush? You do realize just how many bands came out of England, right?

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PaleontologistOk2516@reddit

My roommate and I were listening to this in college one time and that’s when he revealed that the band is referred to Bush X in Canada due to copyright reasons. Blew my mind

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aweedl@reddit

I know lots of people who still call them Bush X. That’s what it said on all the tapes and CDs here, for the first couple records, anyway!

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LiGuangMing1981@reddit

Yep, I remember that. I believe the old Bush gave up their rights the name in Canada later, so the British Bush was able to use that name on their albums in Canada as well later on.

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Green_Wyvern17@reddit (OP)

Yep. I have never heard Canadian bush

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whyyoutwofour@reddit

Representing Bush X for my fellow Canadian fans

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Annual-Sand-4735@reddit

I was about to say “kids these days, smh” but then I saw what sub this was in. I’m baffled

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CapitalElk1169@reddit

Ah, the album that officially killed grunge Nepo babies making soulless music because they wanted to be rock stars

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nikki_therese@reddit

Lol whut

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Edgarmustavas@reddit

Yeah, nah.

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Planetofthought@reddit

Xennials are trolling hard this morning.

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cloudydays2021@reddit

To say “that one time” and use fucking BUSH as THAT ONE TIME is blasphemy! Do you have access to music from Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, IDLES, The Rolling Stones, Skunk Anansie, Queen, Peter Gabriel, The Beatles, PJ Harvey or do you just have like three CDs to rotate and the other two are non-Brits?

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Bakingsquared80@reddit

I loved British music in the 90s. Oasis, Blur, The smiths, Bush, The verve…

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xt0rt@reddit

I'm a Blur fanboy for sure. Oasis though, nah. Not just because of the feud, I have just never liked their style. Plus they're both arseholes.

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catninjaambush@reddit

They’re Both Arseholes was a great song!

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TelevisionKooky3041@reddit

Out of the whole Brit-pop scene, Blur and Kula Shaker were the bands I enjoyed listening to the most. Never much cared for Oasis.

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giabollc@reddit

Radiohead

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Bakingsquared80@reddit

I can’t believe I forgot them 🤦🏽‍♀️

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BrainaIleakage@reddit

Oasis are the new Beatles!

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Cool_Dark_Place@reddit

So they told us...🙄

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marbotty@reddit

Then they said it was the Arctic Monkeys

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Jdevers77@reddit

And they thoroughly believed it…even split up in incredibly public fashion like The Beetles haha

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General-Reserve9349@reddit

Maybe the first rage bait marketing I was aware of

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nanneryeeter@reddit

I upvote only because I feel like you're being sarcastic!

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DoubleRightClick@reddit

![gif](giphy|wYyTHMm50f4Dm|downsized)

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ImOnlyHereForTheCoC@reddit

Spacemen 3, Spiritualized

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tmagnum000@reddit

Bittersweet symphony is 🔥

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chechnyah0merdrive@reddit

That album aged surprisingly well.0

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s_nation@reddit

Brits ruled rock and alternative, they embraced jimmy hendrix before the u.s., and tori amos 'cos americans thought she was too "weird" Naming bands(female) that probably doesn't and won't get much mention here Curve Lush Skunk Anansie PJ Harvey (still active but god her 90s stuff were masterpieces) Elastica Saint Etienne

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TelevisionKooky3041@reddit

All great artists in your list. I've been a PJ Harvey fan since the 90's. Even though she is reasonably well known, I feel she never gets the credit she truly deserves. Her entire discography is outstanding and her first five albums are God-tier.

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P5ammead@reddit

Upvotes from me! The early to mid nineties indie / shoegazing scene was great at spitting out (good!) artists and bands with female leads. Add Sleeper to the list too!

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LadyMirkwood@reddit

The home of The Beatles, The Clash, Joy Division, Radiohead, and so much more never produced any rock of note apart from *Bush*?!? This take is so spectacularly bad I considered if it might be trolling.

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gullyfoyle777@reddit

I was obsessed as a teen. I had 104 pictures of Bush (or Gavin) on the wall. My sister took me to see them when I was in 8th grade. I don't listen to them a lot anymore.

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PastPotatoes@reddit

I learned that album forward and backward on the guitar. And yes. I totally rocked out in front of the mirror. Gavin was goals for my adolescent self.

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No_Comfortable_1079@reddit

Rage bait...

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mrnesbittteaparty@reddit

Either top trolling or the dumbest thing I’ve read in a long time.

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shadowlarx@reddit

“Machinehead” still rocks hard.

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ReeceDawg@reddit

That tour was the first time I was able to go to a concert without parents/family.. Just got my license and drove 5 of us to the Toledo Sports Arena.. The encore was Gavin playing Glycerin solo.. A memory I'll never forget! I still listen to this album.

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coentertainer@reddit

This is like saying Austria hasn't contributed to classical music, or the USA to Hip Hop. Think of an iconic rock band and chances are there from England.

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Zealousideal-Ad-4716@reddit

They got so much hate but the music really holds up. It’s a great record and these guys were incredible live. https://youtu.be/j4i6PdfOTV0?si=BqCQ8oLFhhyXmZ_V

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s_nation@reddit

The nickelback of the uk

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randoperson42@reddit

I had no idea Bush was a British band

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MapleToque@reddit

I wish I would have kept my ‘Bush X’ CD. Might be worth like $11 now.

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CokBlockinWinger@reddit

This was the beginning of the end for Grunge. Pretty boy corporatization of the genre started right here.

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KickooRider@reddit

Expand your horizons OP

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EdwardDorito@reddit

England brought the rock so many times.

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YogurtclosetDull2380@reddit

What the fuck is this?

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MyVoiceIsElevating@reddit

That reminds me, I need to find my asshole brother.

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boywonderrrrrrrrrr@reddit

Terrible take.

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TheREALBaldRider@reddit

I have 3 copies of this album

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photogypsy@reddit

My favorite memory of a childhood friend’s now-deceased father was us coming in from our teen shenanigans and SNL was on. We excitedly asked if the musical guest had been on yet. He responded they’d been on once we asked who it was and his response was “some screaming mess you girls listen to all the time”. It was Bush (and I assume the song was Machine Head). Their second song was Glycerine and he liked it. He was all “see this is music, why can’t they do more like this”.

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MyBurnerAccount1977@reddit

In Canada, due to a conflict with an obscure Canadian band with the same name, and that being the 90s, Bush became known as Bush X until Gavin and company bought the rights to the name. I think they could've gone with "Bush UK" (sorta like The Charlatans), but that's just me.

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