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Did you know that IDF intentionally shot and killed 14 civilians on Oct 7th? And that's just the ones that were officially confirmed.
Israel has had a controversial policy of killing soldiers rather then letting them be abducted, and on that day they for some reason decided that applied to civvies. Even though it was "officially" never meant to allow killing of soldiers either.
Imagine looking at a fringe extremist who twists religion to justify violence and then going, “yep, this is what *all* Muslims believe.” That’s like saying Westboro Baptist = Christianity, the IRA = Catholicism, or the KKK = the teachings of Jesus. Nobody with two brain cells equates those extremists to the religion itself.
it’s the same extremism you see in every ideology.
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A better warrior of Allah would convert the 4 year olds father and make 3 new Muslims in the process.
The greatest warriors of a faith are those who add to it or give it good PR.
What good to Islam does stabbing a 4 year old do.
They've completely lost the plot and as a result there making Islam less desirable as a faith to new adherents. The only people rn I could see converting are brain dead neets and incels.
The dont want new Muslims. They want to get revenge on America for all the horrific stuff our soldiers have done in other countries in the middle east. America has killed so many innocent people in their countries.
You do realise this does nothing to islam, and you do know this is forbidden by islam, and yet you stupidly associate this with islam just because of your hate. Unfortunately for you, converts only increase year after, and most of them are from your western world, and one the most important factors for this is the media coverage you do to show islam is bad especialy since 9 11, but it only makes sincere people want to study it more beacause of your stp8d lies/hate. Lol.
Because iron was never about the actual religion. Thats just a name they hide behind. Its always been about keeping their status quo. They hate western ideologies because it removes their existing power structure.
The terror acts are just the childish flailings of a low IQ cave dweller unable to adapt to today's social climates. Thats why they never go after actual enemies of their religion, like Isreal, or the governments stealing their resources. Its always some random handful of white people at a mall, or a kid at a daycare.
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Don’t get it twisted I’m not advocating for any violence, but these mf’ers in retrospect have had historically some of the worst targets for their cause.
The WTC was their most infamous target that made sense for an attack on another country from what I know.
Yeah but weren’t the London bombings done on innocent civilians in a damned subway? And I think there was a bridge incident right?
It’s fucking horrible what these extremists do.
Doesn't that make the point they were making? From the viewpoint of a "revolutionary" hitting the WTC had an actual affect felt around the world. We still need time to tell but the fallout of how the global elites handled it may have made modern society terminal.
9/11 was too big a target. They got clapped in retaliation so now they go for the small fish since nobody is gonna ~~invade you for oil~~ launch a full blown war against you for a couple no names getting shanked.
Whether you believe it or not, the world was changed forever at that point.
And also they tried to bomb the buildings back in the 90s when they snuck minivans into the bottom strapped with bombs. So very likely it was a valuable target for any extremist organization.
I’m not denying there’s many suspicious things surrounding 9/11 but there’s definitely a lot of evidence that supports it’s not a conspiracy as much as there is supporting a conspiracy
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I’m not saying they cancel out,
I’m just saying that there are valid points that can sway people toward saying it was a conspiracy and
Valid points that can sway people toward thinking it’s not a conspiracy
Honestly, I see that the US Government knew it was going to happen, and when they did s
They saw an opportunity to invade the ME and let it happen on purpose.
I'm with you there. They probably got tipped off by someone, lets just face it probably mossard, who also probably gave warning to their own people hence executives peacing out that day, told the cia and the government just looked and said perfect, a distraction from that 2 trillion lost and a excuse to invade with high support from the people.
I envy the naïvety of thinking that Islamic extremists were behind 9/11 rather than the people who used it to make untold billions (trillions?) of dollars.
People who sell boats make a shit load during a flood.
Doesn't mean boat makers control the sea level.
People will figure out how to make a buck off any tragedy. Correlation doesn't equal causation. The warhawks got the excuse they wanted whether they had a hand in it or not.
idk about getting clapped, they essentially won the war on terror ; they just started infighting, AQ really hates ISIS, heck the new leader of AQ really hated Bin Laden and thought his tactics were stupid from the start.
Most of this stuff is done by IS these days whose motivations make far less sense and is more focused on fighting other Islamists and pointless theatrical attacks rather than anything material.
The death of a child is universally seen as a tragedy.
The west routinely kills Muslims, including children.
10s of thousands of Muslim children have been killed in Gaza.
The only problem is the message of "we'll kill yours if you continue to support killing ours" is lost in the anti-immigrant propaganda.
It's probably because all the big terror organizations have been reduced to atoms by the anti terror coalition. So we are seeing more lone wolf attacks by single radicals that aren't organized or done with planning.
Because, they are lame ass terrorists, they don’t have proper training, weapons, artifacts or guerrilla tactics without the CIA training them. Al-Qaed, Is i s, and most of the other groups are bunch of ignorant criminals that don’t even have access to the most basic information about guns or any other thing that would be useful for terror.
Think about it, their most successful attacks occurred a few years after they were being trained by the US, after they died or got sent to Guantanamo and the remaining members stopped receiving orientation and resources they didn’t get shit done.
Those dudes that you see killing children and attacking women and shit like that are incels that got brainwashed through telegram groups and go out and do something they feel they can handle because they are weak.
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Difference is Christians don't believe the Bible is the literal word of God.
The Qur'an is supposed to be the literal word of God and it's less logical than a Harry potter book, written by a paedophile warlord and full of really basic errors.
>Difference is Christians don't believe the Bible is the literal word of God.
Because we don't even know who wrote the most important Gospel, the Gospel of Matthew lol.
>less logical than a Harry potter book
Weird. You must have read a parody then. I'm pretty sure it is so logical it in fact describes many things we did not know at the time such as the speed of light. (Quran 32:5)
>written by a paedophile warlord and full of really basic errors.
1. Wrong, it wasn't fully written by him as he himself did not know to read and write lol. The more you talk the more ignorant you sound.
2. Aisha's age is debated to this day with mathematicians putting her age at 17 which is still wrong in my opinion but hey, what was the age of Mary when she gave birth to Jesus again? : )
3. Full of really basic errors? Never heard of one tbh and even if it does have errors which you still didn't provide an example of, the Bible has much more.
This is your brain on Islam ☠️
What about drinking camel piss for health and the moon splitting in half?
Any answer to those two obvious errors Mohamed?
>This is your brain on Islam ☠️
Source?
>What about drinking camel piss
Don't mistake cultural backwardness with religion
>the moon splitting in half?
Like curing the blind and walking on water or Moses splitting the sea in two
Any answers to those two obvious errors Naruto?
I know right?
A religion that has used force and violence to spread from the Middle East to Africa, Europe, Eastern Europe, India, China, and the USA, whose literal symbol is a sword wherever they enrich with their culture.
Yet they act like it's the CIA whose responsible for the 1000-plus years of Islamic behavior.
The Islamic extremists are just an excuse to try and make dummies believe that there is a difference.
Pretty much if you are familiar with history; granted there are some exceptions around the Ottoman Empire etc it was mostly a combination of economic and political warfare.
India is a great example of this since they ruled parts of it for centuries but for the most part never really bothered to try converting the Hindu population en masse ; rather political realities shaped this similarly to how Christianity came to Europe e.g. western India (Pakistan) converted en masse due to Buddhist aristocracy switching to Islam (in fact they aided the Arab invasions against the Hindu aristocracy) , you had similar regional politics throughout most of Asia which ultimately centered around a conflict between different members of the ruling class e.g. Cambodia didn't become Muslim because the Malay-Cambodian faction lost against the Vietnamese-Cambodian faction.
Ultimately what your average person believes in terms of religion is largely a product of what furthered the interests of the ruling class at one point or another.
Hard to counter argue all that CNN propaganda in a single paragraph.
At least it can be stated that Muslims weren't as horrible as the Christians were. After all, in the past few decades, Christians have definitely been responsible for millions more of innocents being harmed than Muslims could ever do. By numbers alone, Islam is way superior then by your own standards lol.
Yet no examples.
Let's look around the world where Muslims have a majority or are trying to get power.
My favorite is how they equate some white guy who does something as a Christian since it's a European founding religion. But the 300 million plus deaths under Islam and you know the non-stopping slave trade that they still practiced is much better than Christians right?
That's why you are allowed to lie and Islam if it benefits the religion.
>Yet no examples.
Iraq. 1 million innocents. Enough said there bud.
>where Muslims have a majority or are trying to get power.
If a native converts to Islam and wants to go in office, does that mean Muslims are trying to get power? Is it considered when a Catholic becomes mayor that he's an agent of the church?
>as a Christian since it's a European founding religion
Sorry to break it to you but Christianity was literally born in the Middle East. Europe was pagan and believing in idols at the time or worse.
>But the 300 million plus deaths under Islam and you know the non-stopping slave trade that they still practiced is much better than Christians right?
Not at all but that was what? A couple of hundred years ago? Weren't we doing the same thing? Thank God the British ended that but it's naive to think they solved any problems. Haiti today is a prime example of neocolonialism creating a failed state drowning to pay back the debt of slaves gaining their freedon by having an impossible debt to pay back to France. There's not a single country paying slavedebt to a Muslim country today. France is Christian though, isn't it?
>That's why you are allowed to lie and Islam if it benefits the religion.
I'm not allowed to lie. I'm allowed to educate myself and develop critical thinking instead of taking things at face value like a child.
\>Provided each and every point with a valid counter argument
\>Guy comes back with a sad attempt at denigration instead of a smart reply.
\>Thinks he somehow won the argument.
L
Sure, sure it's not like it's stated in the Quran, or was it CNN that told them to invade India multiple times, or Persia, etc,etc.
It was CNN that told them to kidnap Americans during the Barbary Wars.
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The whole point of terror tactics is in the name: terror. Striking high through assassinations, a la 19th century anarchists, has the opposite effect. It creates a rally-around-the flag situation which makes the struck target (president's office, security services, etc) double-down and commit more forces, and enrages the public, making the killed person/people a martyr because they were essentially killed in their line of duty.
Instead, striking civilians works to demoralize the public and make the powers-that-be focus on security at home instead of the battle abroad, which usually further demoralizes the public because they feel unsafe because the attacks are random and anyone can die now AND now their privacy is invaded by the government AND they have no trust for neither other citizens or their government.
It's the same tactics the Irish used against the British. Instead of direct attacks on military installations, they just blew up cars and trucks in London until the civilian population was so demoralized and distrustful they were ready to accept British defeat over the continued war their government waged abroad.
How much are you guys willing to bet this guy is actually a mossad agent? How do people still fall for this bs lol?
Isis was funded by the Israeli government and 9/11 was an inside job.
I know right?
We are better off without it like we need some type of ideology where the common man seizes power as a collective and it's also communal and we are all equal.
Then true utopia will be achieved like our god karl marx said.
Extremists don't have an army big or strong enough to overthrow their own gvt so they go attack western countries to make them come in their eastern country and overthrow the government
in all seriousness, my guess is that the goal of people so extremist they turn barbaric ends up being more about moral devastation, not warfare like precision and efficiency
you guys know that Mohammed had sexual intercourse with a lot of dark skinned (probably indian), tall and strong men at night in the desert according to the Hadith, right?
[Please, guys. Check this source](https://youtu.be/jtTYxxmVpvA?si=D4o-zIhneo2U0Mto)
Terrorism is when an attack of some sort is done to fulfil political or ideological motives, killing the people responsible for destroying your country is much more effective terrorism for your cause than killing random children only making less people sympathetic to your cause.
Then the normies will not protest the terrorist's country getting fucked up further, it switches the question from one of empathy to one of fear which is not favourable at all to do to western society considering the empathy of it's people is what makes sure the terrorist's country still exists. Powerful people don't have morals, normies holding the powerful accountable do.
They're so funny. Simultaneously vicious "warriors of God" but also victims and need constant protection to save them from "hate".
They suck. I want the pre 9-11 world back then we could pretend they didn't exist rather than endure millions in our countries.
Kinda depends on geography. Small towns in the mountains or near a river/lake could be fun. Small towns in the midwest are depressing as hell and it's no wonder everyone leaves or kills themselves.
karl gustav getty invented modern photography. his patents are insane. as such, every camera or camera adjacent device, even ones that you would think are "dumb" or don't have any form of networking or wireless capabilities do actually have a rudimental, antiquated form of wireless file sharing. EVERY photo or video EVER taken is property of getty, and every few years he combs through the massive repositories and uploads the most interesting
Cases like this, especially where women are involved, are probably less ideological and more predatory. In the cases where it genuinely is ideological, it's because the 4-year-old girl is a soft target who will not be able to retaliate, while killing her will arguably scare people more than the death of some bureaucrat or corpo.
They are inbred desert/mountain people with no education. They have the mental capacity of the 4-year-old they're attacking. Don't expect their "goal" to be clear or logical.
It can force a situation. Im not saying this is my view point but the view that something is so far gone the only way to fix it is to make it so bad it collapses is a thing. Them stabilizing our system just makes their life worse. The best example is the patriot act by scaring western society to the level they did we enacted policies that have ultimately sped the demise of our society/culture.
TLDR: some people are ok with things getting worse before they get better if it means an overall better outcome to them.
Not condoning what he did, but his target was a nobody with an 8 fig net worth which is still quite far from well-known billionaire status, so not that surprising.
> while killing her will arguably scare people more than the death of some bureaucrat or corpo.
This is the real reason. They're terrorists committing acts of terror. They want people to be horrified. Who gives a fuck if some muslim shoots a politician or bombs an intelligence agency?
My mom said for the last week their have been 3 “young men” on the green praying 🙏🏻 to the East on cushions where people normally walk their dogs, she could have been misinterpreting it as we have 1 mosque 🕌in my town already and people can set up a mosque in their house to pray?
Because they're stupid (as in Islamic militias target acrusl retarfs to do suicide attacks) and have been told that they're damned unless they make amends for their behaviour (almost always taking drugs or robbing other muslims, everything else is fine) and the easiest way to make amends is to kill infidels and *every non Muslim is an infidel*. Theres no such thing as a hard or soft target in militant islam, theyd kill every single non Muslim without hesitation (theyd enslave the pretty women as rape slaves though).
Be the USA
Walk past all the bullshit happening in its country
Give money to Israel to kill 4 year old children and bomb hospitals.
Why are they like this ?
Literally everyone ever in the entirety everywhere always.
Takes the easy route, the only reason you don't see this everywhere is because of PR and public image but also the consequences.
If you are shown to be the aggressor and especially an amoral heinous one, everyone turns against you.
"Smuggle"
Yeah no they literally just walk in or are even imported. All the while actual migrants with skill are denied. It's absolutely ridiculous. Just say "Asylum" or whatever and you can just walk into germany and get free money and housing.
Islamic radicals are not a monolith. They basically just go on vibes if they're a lone wolf. I remember when they hit that gay nightclub in Orlando and there have been a few other occasions like that French magazine.
I'd say on avg this attack was not the norm since there's probably even something on their doctrine about killing toddlers but this guy probably wanted to cause as much outrage as possible and it was less about "the cause."
So, ya'll think a synagogue, pride parade, and a traphouse have the same influence as the rest of those.. right. Your bigotry is falling out of your ass as much as that extremist's.
But yeah, places of worship, pride events, and news stations have all been targeted in recent times, this post is braindead.
You need to read the CIA manual on terrorism. Killing police or soldiers will outrage some people but most people will shrug it off as an occupational hazard. Killing children will outrage almost all people in that society and make them want to murder your people. That's good, when they retaliate against your people they will likely use disproportionate force. Like dropping a bomb on a wedding or something. You can tell your people that the enemy is unjustified and get more support for your cause.
It's because they want to do "warrior" (barbaric) things without expending "warrior" effort. They DO attack police stations but only in their places of origin where the average cop is only really armed with a peashooter lol
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Because places like Reddit, social media, our government, extreme leftist's that never have to live in that area seem to stand up for it.
Governments know that Religion is how they control you, then you have people on Reddit/ultra left that want to virtue signal so they can feel so smug into not being seemed as racist or some type of phobe over the belief of sky fairies.
It's all to keep people busy, the 1% get more power and money over everyone's stupidity.
I mean, just think about. Let's go all in with religion. This is God's world. This is honestly how you would treat it and his creations??
It's hilarious, but honestly it's really pathetic and sad always seeing these religious types hate hippies,environmentalists or "new age" religion that preaches about being good to others and learning to have self-awareness.
"Hey, I don't think we should be killing others, the earth and life in it with bombs,wars and weapons!" = "it's a 4chan phobic attack!" .
They do it because they want to enrage us into retaliating against our domestic Muslim populations to force them off of the fence and get them to join the jihad.
They would party in the streets if a westerner would go to a Muslim daycare and attack their children. They want to ramp up the cycle of violence.
I wonder why there are no stories of like immigrants who integrate well on here. I mean by sheer variance in population you'd expect some Muslims who immigrant to find western life much more fitting, but then again those stories aren't interesting.
The same extremists who claim to fight the enemies of Islam have done more harm towards Muslims and other innocent civilians than to the actual enemies, I wonder who's been funding them 🤔.
This is the Terminator type shit, that kid was supposed to be the eraser of the muslims. it was foretold he would be drawing pictures of Muhammad in the snow with his piss. Very haram.
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Can't go after politicians and the wealthy, because then the elite might actually start caring enough to consider making it harder to enter their countries.
I get the point, but an actual fundamentalist terrorist ala Al Qaeda is a bit different from a mentally ill hyper autistic, socially alienated loser who has been radicalised by tiktok and ISIS gore videos, who are the people who do these kind of attacks
As a Muslim idk either.. sometimes these mfs also bomb and mosques and kill Muslims for having different opinions on a religious matter.
Mf go kill the IDF or something.
"Instruct him in the matters of loss and pain. Make him suffer, make him wish he were dead. \[...\] And then grant his wish. \[...\] The cunning warrior attacks neither body nor mind. \[...\] The HEART Osborn! First, we attack his heart!"
Cowards. They're just after an easy win. Plus Muslims are just naturally drawn to small children.. it's like an itching thought at the back of their mind.
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