Apparently using Kali Linux is suspicious..

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Angry_viking468@reddit

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a Wi-Fi pineapple a piece of hardware not software

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It is normally a bit of hardware. But you can run a custom software that hijacks your phones hotspot and uses that as a pineapple. Not as good as the hardware because the signal strength isn't where it needs to be to drown out legitimate signals and only have yours available for connection..

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Angry_viking468@reddit

you learn something new every day.

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berickphilip@reddit

The kind of people who actually make and publish this kind of bullshit scare tactics and misleading shit for profit.. these are the actual danger to society and humanity in general.

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Ezmiller_2@reddit

I would expect it from a religious fundamental group. I love it when a pastor or priests mentions Linux, and not only do they know what Linux, but they use it as well.

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zxy35@reddit

Don't they use TempleOS ,

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wbw42@reddit

Best comment on the thread.

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Ezmiller_2@reddit

Lol no, not that I know of.

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REAL_EddiePenisi@reddit

1984 was written by... 🥁

Aldous Huxley of the UK

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odsquad64@reddit

George Orwell wrote 1984

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fatfuckindoinkers@reddit

jor jor wel

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OneCDOnly@reddit

Yep, him and that other fella, Eric Arthur Blair.

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Sixguns1977@reddit

That's brave new world(along with other books) and is at least as hellish as 1984.

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-p-e-w-@reddit

“If your child has a computer program that does something you don’t understand, call the police, and we’ll send government thugs to harass and traumatize them, without even bothering to check whether what they did was actually illegal in any way. Please help us protect freedom and democracy in Europe.”

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_PacificRimjob_@reddit

"if you're frightened at the prospect of talking to your child and/or learning about what they're doing, just call the cops"

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ososalsosal@reddit

In this case it's a police department so I agree

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BassmanBiff@reddit

I like that Discord is equally as suspicious as Metasploit.

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CondiMesmer@reddit

As it should. What if your kid becomes a Discord mod?

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MATHIS111111@reddit

I'd rather have son that is gay than a Discord mod.

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CondiMesmer@reddit

your wish is granted, but he becomes a gay discord femboi kitten

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wbw42@reddit

But importantly not a mod.

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mnelly_sec@reddit

Hey man, there are tons of hackers hanging out on Discord

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ososalsosal@reddit

Cheating at Roblox isn't really hacking tho?

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Zyphixor@reddit

Nowadays it is. You have to do some RE if you're making your own exploits.

It also follows the original meaning of hacking (getting something to do something it isn't meant to allow)

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zxy35@reddit

Difference between hacking and cracking .

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that-gay-femboy@reddit

r/whoosh

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SillyOldBillyBob@reddit

Beware! Your own brain can often be used to share and receive hacking tips.

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victoryismind@reddit

THE INTERNET is a communication platform often used to share hacking tips

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JoenR76@reddit

I hear they use text and videos to share hacking tips!

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AstraeusGB@reddit

It ranks higher on the list, so I suppose it is even more suspicious than Metasploit.

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National_Way_3344@reddit

Metasploit isn't full of pedophiles

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ImmortalMermade@reddit

Snitching you kid to police. Not cool

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surrationalSD@reddit

I like how they are advertising Metasploit so I can try it out for fun!

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Cranky_Franky_427@reddit

To be honest if a child has Kali Linux that is indeed sus. Should have a conversation to understand what they are doing. You don't want the FBI to show up at your door some day because they were following an nmap tutorial.

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atomic1fire@reddit

If I knew a kid interested in using Linux, I'd probably suggest a "boring" distro like Ubuntu or Fedora, or tell them to check out one of the gaming OS ones like Bazzite.

I feel like Kali would not only have way too much stuff they could get themselves in trouble with, but it would be a bad way to get them started with Linux in general if all they ever use is a tablet.

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New_Enthusiasm9053@reddit

Eh, the illegal shit is educational, and unlike an adult they won't go to jail so it's basically free.

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atomic1fire@reddit

You assume that the government won't throw the book at them to "make an example out of them".

Better to make it into a career as a professional white hat or pen tester then it is to set them up with a criminal record they can't drop without significant legal help and time.

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New_Enthusiasm9053@reddit

That's why doing it as a kid is the best time to do it. Their criminal records are typically sealed. So it doesn't affect them. Plus they'll usually only throw a book at a child if it's a persistent pattern not once or twice. So they can experiment away until the first time they get arrested safely.

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granadesnhorseshoes@reddit

Yeah, Kali specifically is pretty sus when there are a million other easier distros who's primary features AREN'T shipping with metasploit, aircrack-ng, rainbowcrack, John the ripper, et al OOTB.

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throwaway195472974@reddit

I think I hit 4/6 of those as a kid. But just because Discord and WiFi Pineapple was not around at that time (and Kali was still Backtrack Linux)

Today I am working for Big Tech so that definitively did no harm to me.

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jr735@reddit

The problem is that people who write nonsense like those posters can barely turn a computer on. It's like all the other moral panics, created by adults least knowledgeable about said topics.

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Rodariel17@reddit

Well if I see a child using typical hacking software without a clear educational context and active parenting control is gonna look sus and I would probably get worried.

There's plenty of cases of children and minors playing with hacking stuff they find on internet without knowing what they are doing or where are they getting on

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oromis95@reddit

Some of us even become software engineers

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Rodariel17@reddit

That's why I wrote "clear educational context"

If a kid wants to learn how to code or do ethical hacking is totally fine! A lot of us started that way, what I'm saying is that as a parent you need to know what your kid is doing with a computer and give the support needed to learn a ethical use of code and software

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oromis95@reddit

Not all roads are the same. The only reason I became one is because I wasn't doing it ethically.

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jr735@reddit

This exactly. Not all roads are the same. The roads available in high school are vastly different. Some schools have excellent computer science teachers. Some have very poor ones, where even an average student knows more than the teacher, and parents who know even less.

"Clear educational context" is a construct here and doesn't represent reality for children.

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Rodariel17@reddit

Myself included, when I was little i used to break a lot of things trying to learn how they work and is okay but also a lot of times i could fuck it up really good lol I think I was lucky to have that security sense of not getting in trouble. But also i've encountered a lot of not so lucky cases in my work, mostly kids getting in trouble by using hacking stuff without knowing what they are doing and also is irresponsible for the parents perspective.

I'm just asking parents to be more aware of what their kids do with a computer, cellphone or internet

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oromis95@reddit

The US as a whole is sheltered puritanical hellhole, and the last thing we need is more parents putting more GPS trackers on kids. That's why they end up messed up, with mental health issues, shooting up schools and the such. But that's my opinion.

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True-Surprise1222@reddit

Likely ai powered gps trackers so the parents don’t have to check in directly

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OneCDOnly@reddit

The child’s ethics won’t come from parental support. Many children of fully supportive parents grow up to be homicidal psychopaths.

The kid will either do good stuff with their coding, or bad stuff. You can only hope they choose the former.

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me_myself_ai@reddit

Either they're trying to be hackers or they're little whistleblowers/journalists that are terrible at choosing Linux distros. Either way, not a good look!

Like, are there people that use Tor for dumb chatrooms and that's it? Of course! Are those people teenagers? I doubt it.

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crucible@reddit

Well, we’re now a few years down the road from the creation of this poster, and the tech community in the UK are now very worried about teens installing Tor…

because we just pushed a law where every platform from Reddit yo Bluesky to XBox is now asking for selfies or uploads of Government-approved IDs if you want to access ‘adult’ content.

Nor every kid is gonna try Nord VPN.

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me_myself_ai@reddit

Yeah but would TOR help with that…? Fair enough on the VPNs

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crucible@reddit

Not sure. I saw a comment from another Redditor who claimed they installed Tor Browser, connected to it and were somehow served CSAM while searching for porn. No fucking way am I going to risk trying that to confirm or deny!

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Rodariel17@reddit

You think teens don't do that? You would be surprised lol I work fixing computers and also give security advice and a lot of times see a lot of weird and crazy things in teens and family computers like tor and encrypted files with sus names or ddos software or keyloggers installers

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Prior-Program-9532@reddit

My parents considered editing a .bat file hacking back in the day.

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Thermawrench@reddit

START

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jr735@reddit

That's the sad reality. We have let people who cannot turn a computer on define what "hacking" means.

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DarknessBBBBB@reddit

I made the mistake of using Kali instead of the usual Ubuntu WSL to run some AWS commands once. AWS GuardDuty looked like a Christmas tree lol, only because some innocent commands were coming from a Kali distro

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Vice_Quiet_013@reddit

A boat doesn't make you a mariner, a hidden room doesn't make you a secret agent, a knife doesn't make you a butcher, a city with bad people doesn't make you a criminal.

If you see anything like that in your child house, don't disturb the police, there are more important things to think about than a kid experimenting stuff.

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RubberSoulive@reddit

Where the fuck are kids getting a wifi pineapple?

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MarketFireFighter139@reddit

It was better when it was called Backtrack

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Spoofy_Gnosis@reddit

🤣

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NordschleifeLover@reddit

Kali linux is not an outlier here tbf.

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Ersthelfer@reddit

It is a distro menat for pentesting. I actually aggree with the NCA here. It is a little suspicious if someone has it on itheir desktop. I'd fully expect anyone who has it as their daily drive to be a script kiddie.

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Ok-Salary3550@reddit

ITT: very smart Redditors get upset at a poster that is clearly intended for the attention of non-techies that actually makes reasonable points for the context, like “if your teenager is running Kali Linux they’re probably a script kiddie”

Also ITT: people act like being a script kiddie is a beneficial learning process for bright children rather than a complete nuisance

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JaKami99@reddit

This can't be anything else apart from ragebait

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arles2464@reddit

Controversial opinion I think this poster is a good idea if implemented properly. Other than discord, these tools are actually a little odd for a kid to have on a computer (I say this as a discord-using guy who we first distro was Kali on a VM). If a kid actually has all this stuff, it’s probably a pretty good indicator they’re interested in cyber security and so this is actually a great way for governments to find kids with latent talent to develop into professionals.

I know the UK is a bit of a meme right now but they aren’t gonna charge a kid with hacking (and win in court) just by virtue of them running Kali.

Moreover, there’s an argument to be made that parents should be aware of this stuff to nip it lest their child actually does do something illegal on the family computer and all of a sudden they have police knocking at their door.

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Outrageous-Golf2211@reddit

But TikTok is absolutely fine I guess

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TheUnreal0815@reddit

Discord is just rediculus.

Kali Linux is also useful if you're extra security conscious.

All but Discord are useful I you try to protect your privacy.

Also, hacking, as the term was originally used, could also mean understanding your system of choice well, writing cool software for it, and is still frequently being used to talk about kernel development.

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Rough-Worth3554@reddit

Discord? Drug dealer for sure

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SilentLennie@reddit

No hacking is suspicious. Which it might not be as a red flag as they will make it out to be.

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Acrobatic-Rice-4598@reddit

If you see that your child is curious or worse that he is in the process of learning to use computers, contact the police near you. It is possible that he has a degenerative brain disease which requires rapid treatment. We offer fast and effective training of your child's brain. It will be returned to you as soon as possible and you will be able to resume a peaceful life again. Do not hesitate and contact us. We are counting on your good liver. We cannot afford to have traitors like Snowden in our ranks.

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CandlesARG@reddit

The UK is so fucked lol

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rolika75@reddit

It's obvious since Mr Robot.

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sturmeh@reddit

I'd say it's pretty suss to see a kid using it, but it doesn't mean they can't use it or shouldn't be using it.

Any kid using it is likely interested in network security, and their primary target will be their guardian (in the best of cases) if they're doing anything beyond educational purposes.

In the same way that I'd only let a kid play with a set of lockpicks in a controlled environment, I'd be wary of (and show interest in) their activity if they were interested in network security.

It is a distribution designed for that purpose after all.

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pfp-disciple@reddit

Discord and, often, virtual machines are very popularly used for mundane things. Like anything a child is using, it's still a good idea to know how they're being used, as much for their safety than anything else.

While the others on the list aren't *necessarily" concerning, they should at least raise an eyebrow.

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Datarecovery09@reddit

We literally had to use VMs at work to run the tech stack of our customer. Well, until docker.

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Dont_tase_me_bruh694@reddit

we use VM's at work to use old software that can only run on Win XP. Guess we're hackers engaging in cyber crime.

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bbt104@reddit

I use them for modern OS's at home for my family. It's so much easier to fix the kid's computer by reverting back to the last working checkpoint 😆

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MonetizedSandwich@reddit

Neat that people still use metasploit

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Vhzhlb@reddit

While obviously this is pretty much digital witch-hunting again, I do think that Discord deserves one or two revisions from a kid's parents.

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DisappointedLily@reddit

Yeah, unsupervised discord on the hands of a child is straight up neglect if you are vaguely aware of the vast kind of shit that goes on there.

Not that I agree on this bulshit poster. But this point is true.

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RealUlli@reddit

The latest issue of the German Linux Magazin came with a DVD with several OS boot options. One of them is the latest version of Kali Linux... :-)

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ckdx_@reddit

Both the NCA and the West Midlands Police distanced themselves from this at the time - this was some years ago now.

https://x.com/nca_uk/status/1228087984177786880

https://x.com/wmpolice/status/1228017352937234433

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crucible@reddit

If the teachers know their students pretty well, most should figure out the geeky ones who are into Linux aren’t necessarily hackers…

We’re probably talking one maybe two kids in a school year of 250 - 300 depending on the size of an average UK high school (typically ages 11 - 16, our secondary schools are more like Middle and High schools combined from an American perspective).

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AstraeusGB@reddit

I mean WiFi Pineapple is probably incriminating more than any of the others

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LoinesOff@reddit

Maaaan, I have all of these except WiFi pineapple and Metasploit. Does this mean that I’m a danger

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victoryismind@reddit

What are "positive diversions" I'd like to know

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lewkiamurfarther@reddit

pffft out of control

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princess_ehon@reddit

The intert is a scry place often used to download cp.

EBay is all dagerous products not meeting any safety standards and will cause serious harm.

Governments always have your interest.

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namorapthebanned@reddit

So using discord and kali is suspicious, but porn isnt

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Ahand_Apart@reddit

You have to show your I.D. for porn mate.

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ShinobiOfTheWind@reddit

Hi.

I'm Sam Porter Bridges, from the state named "Death Stranding". Here's my brother, Clippy and both our ID's.

Please approve us, both, for unrestricted online access to educational material that propels mankind forward.

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bbt104@reddit

My VPN says otherwise lol

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yornnnorvork@reddit

The ROCU logo with the white background is perfection!

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PozitronCZ@reddit

Decent people use Windows /j

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avatar_one@reddit

As effective as - "You wouldn't steal a car!" :D

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beastwithin379@reddit

Haha if you see this call the police and report your child. Yeah fucking right lol.

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SeaMisx@reddit

On what drug exactly these people are ??

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lynchingacers@reddit

oh nice they give you a dissidents shopping list take notes

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CrossyAtom46@reddit

Wtf???

Discord's main purpose is not for hacking (we all know), yes there are many servers for hack, porn, scamming, but what if that kid using discord just for communication with hus friends in game??

Also, If my child would wonder anythjng about Kali Linux, why would I report this?

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Michaeli_Starky@reddit

Kali on the child's computer? And Tor browser?.. yes, suspicious.

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snowflake37wao@reddit

Hello Professor, want to play a game?

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dagbrown@reddit

Windows is also an operating system often used for hacking.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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jr735@reddit

There are many Windows trolls in this sub, absolutely.

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werewolfshadow@reddit

"Well when you take an image, you put this image up, and you say 'here kids, don't be like that, don't take them red pills, kids.' They didn't even know there was red pills, until you said 'now you can say no, you can say no.' Then they say 'I can say no? I didn't know I could say yes.' - Charles Manson

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bbt104@reddit

The meltdown they'd have if they saw my network 😂😂 I have all of those and more... it's even funnier when you find out they were all required programs for my classes🤣🤣

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TomDuhamel@reddit

All of these things on a child's computer is definitely suspicious.

And please don't defend Kali. When someone mentions using it, you know they are not a professional security expert and never become one. Yes, it had it's uses, but wh whenever it's mentioned on Reddit, you know it's a script kiddy.

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GavenJr@reddit

There's REAL brain dead people actively making, designing and approving this kind of BS.

Let that sink in.

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MrScotchyScotch@reddit

This is the opposite of "think of the children". This kind of unnecessary paranoia and fear by authorities is what got me kicked out of high schools for being interested in hacking and security.

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StrictFinance2177@reddit

If my kids used this stuff, I'd be proud.

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ConfectionForward@reddit

This screams north korea style overwatch. Snitch on friends, family, neighbors, but it is worse it is your own children!

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Tomicoatl@reddit

I don’t know why this is controversial. If a child had all of these on their machine you are right as a parent to question them. If you already suspect your child is breaking the law but don’t know much about computers this would be a helpful guide.

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gracchusmaximus@reddit

Right, but it states “any of these”. I wonder how many kids who play games have Discord on their computers? West Midlands Police better be ready to field a high volume of called in tips! 😂

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cyberworldghost@reddit

Only if hacking was that easy !!!

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mguinhos@reddit

Wtf

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Sapling-074@reddit

If your child is hacking, they are no longer a child.

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codeprimate@reddit

WTF.

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Subject-Leather-7399@reddit

Nope, your child just has special interests.

You should encourage them to do what they like.

Help them to collect bounties when they discover vulnerabilities. Teach them how to report the vulnerabilities correctly (don't share publicly, provide proof of concept if possible, ...) Tell your child about Hackaton.

The child has fun going around security, he'll learn that it is a skill and that it isn't inherently wrong or bad.

Like everything, ethics is what makes something good or bad. They'll get a lot of fun from ethical hacking and will develop a strong moral foundation from the ethical distinctions of hacking.

They will learn an extremely valuable skill and that skill may earn them a very good salary in the future.

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Sapling-074@reddit

Going on the dark web goes far beyond having fun doing ethical hacking.

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jr735@reddit

You first statement has nothing to do with the second. You said:

If your child is hacking, they are no longer a child.

Not only is that silly and patently false, it demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of hacking. Hacking and cracking are not synonyms, except for technologically stunted people.

Going on the dark web goes far beyond having fun doing ethical hacking.

Going on the dark web is neither cracking nor hacking, and there are people doing it for ethical reasons. Further, thinking that there are no legitimate or ethical reasons for going on the dark web further makes me think the person uttering that is technologically stunted.

TOR is used by reporters and activists in countries where dissidence and free reporting are illegal.

No that very naive. 4chan may have dark content, but it's at least legal. The dark web holds content that no one should ever have to see.

You're characterizing what's on there without having an idea what's on there. It's certainly more questionable for a child to be there, but the dark web is absolutely legal and has its value.

This sounds like the same verbal diarrhea we had to put up with 25 years ago when people were saying cryptography should be outlawed.

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atomic1fire@reddit

I've never actually been to the dark web, but I feel like it's probably similar to visiting 4chan.

It's probably gonna be cooked, nothing great can come out of it, and you might want to consider why the kid is doing it because there's probably some bad influence involved.

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Sapling-074@reddit

No that very naive. 4chan may have dark content, but it's at least legal. The dark web holds content that no one should ever have to see.

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atomic1fire@reddit

Oh no I'm aware that the dark web is worse, just that 4chan is probably part of the internet iceberg that shouldn't be breached by kids even if there's some comparatively safe parts.

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tomedwardpatrickbady@reddit

diversions lol

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VasyanMosyan@reddit

I was that one weird classmate who was playing minecraft on Linux

My mom thanked me for showing her Tor to access blocked online libraries (she's a passionate reader)

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ParadoxicalFrog@reddit

Well yeah, it's a ready-made pentesting kit, not a daily driver.

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el_lley@reddit

Are they recruiting or just scholarships?

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InsanityCore@reddit

Seems like a how to hack starter kit.

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Arsenicks@reddit

The dream, if I find out my kids use/know half of those I'd be so damn proud. That stuff gave me a job AND a passion. Having a knife at home doesn't make you a murderer it's what you choose to do with it..

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opdrone47@reddit

100% of hackers breath oxygen. If your child is breathing oxygen...

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viking_redbeard@reddit

If I ever have a child that's into any of that. I'd try to cultivate that into something positive immediately. Security researchers and ethical hackers can write their own meal ticket. Literally.

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Virtual_Revolution82@reddit

They're trying to recruit the most they can in their ranks.

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homudoka@reddit

i don't even think the people that would be afraid of this stuff would even know what linux is, let alone kali 😭

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ruvasqm@reddit

My grain of salt is, just let them learn. There are lessons that only life can give you. Plus, security research is way better as a learning experience than doing the nth guide from tutorial hell.

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KnowZeroX@reddit

If you reported every kid who uses discord, the police station would be overrun with reports.

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ArcadeToken95@reddit

UK: If your child is on Discord CALL THE COPS ON THEM

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Dont_tase_me_bruh694@reddit

There is no way this is legit. That whole sheet is absolutely ridiculous.

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Fresh-Toilet-Soup@reddit

I'd be a proud parent

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ChimeraSX@reddit

if my child is hacking, I'd be proud. Lots of demand for ethical hackers in cybersecurity.....or they could do unethical, the system is a mess anyway

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mfnalex@reddit

Hello police, a child is hacking.

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haykeminyan@reddit

Do the same about web-devs please ;) you work with browsers? You are creating json's and serializers => find a health job 😂😂😂

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StuffedWithNails@reddit

JSON? Sounds like hackercode.

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atomic1fire@reddit

I feel like the majority of "hacking" stuff isn't gonna be picked up by kids unless they have computer savy parents or a legitimate interest in technology.

I would think the majority of the time they're trying to cheat at a multiplayer video game or get around a web filter.

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ConanTheLeader@reddit

If a child had kali Linux that is definitely suspicious. It's 100% not work related.

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mrnoonan81@reddit

Chair: Hackers use these for long hacking sessions

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inbetween-genders@reddit

Ads like these will only make kids abuse Kali Linux ~~drugs~~ more. I hope they are too lazy to read books and just rely on YouTube videos 🤪

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gesis@reddit

How D.A.R.E. you...

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Sixguns1977@reddit

Computers are often used for hacking. Call us if your child uses a computer.

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TastyCuttlefish@reddit

“Let us know” lol ok

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NowThatsCrayCray@reddit

Whoever put this list is an idiot.

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Ancient_Lawfulness_7@reddit

Noooo, not Kali Linux ... clearly a social menace... counter culture... catch them when they are young ... ( sarcasm 🙃 )

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Successful-Safe2375@reddit

What exactly is a kid going to be hacking?

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agent-squirrel@reddit

This gets reposted every few months.

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Jangus3000@reddit

This is the new 1980s D&D Satan Panic from overly concerned parents who have no clue.

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that-gay-femboy@reddit

r/masterhacker

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OriginalRGer@reddit

I'd be the proudest dad if my child used any of these except the fifth one

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justmeandmyrobot@reddit

Code is free speech

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justargit@reddit

Its nice to see the UK Police putting up recruiting posters for the technical industry for free.

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Stilgar314@reddit

This again? It's fairly old, and reposted a hundred times already

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uvuguy@reddit

The UK is after school kids but let the horrible crimes go unpunished

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MoorhsumushroomRT@reddit

Especially if they aren't Arab migrants.

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Badger_PL@reddit

Of course it's in UK xD

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MoorhsumushroomRT@reddit

The British Reich will stop at nothing to keep the natives in the shadows.

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MoorhsumushroomRT@reddit

Those people must have beef with Kali.

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enormous-endian@reddit

If you ever see a child using these, get them a mentor and assist them in their journey.

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aaronsb@reddit

I use this as a checklist for what my kids are doing right.

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TechPir8@reddit

Looks like UK propaganda. So sad what they have become.

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No_Researcher_5642@reddit

DAAAD why doesn''t my WiFi pineapple have build in 5 GHz or 6 GHz?

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Exciting_Turn_9559@reddit

Their description of the wifi pineapple is totally inaccurate.

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Beautiful_Ad_4813@reddit

What it boils down to is

Keep an on your kids computer, don’t just let them install shit

I monitor the hell out of my kids’ pcs because of the atrocious nature of the internet- they can’t install a goddamn thing without me entering my password which they don’t have and need my yubikey too

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ApplicationMaximum84@reddit

This poster is so old now, the NCA responded that it was done without their knowledge or consent. It was a third party who created the poster for a school. Here's an article from 2020: https://www.zdnet.com/article/uk-police-distance-themselves-from-poster-warning-parents-to-report-kids-for-using-kali-linux/

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creamcolouredDog@reddit

"Oi, what's all this then? Do you have a loicense for that Linux?"

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mtlnwood@reddit

Kid at home on the computer too much with discord, call the police and we will talk to him.

Kid out on the streets to much, creating social disorder, theft, drinking, drugs.. eh

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