Can you recommend some reliable compact SUVs that "drives itself" on highways?
Posted by Quirky-Supermarket-9@reddit | askcarguys | View on Reddit | 37 comments
Hi all,
Long time lurker first time poster. TIA.
I am in the market to buy a new car. I currently have an ID4. I like the car's functionalities (I don't love it due to how many little problems I had with it like tire issues and hinge/door problems). And given how long my commute is (hilly 90 miles each way), the constant stopping to charge is getting annoying so I am looking to go back to an ICE SUV. I don't want a big one. The ID.4 size is perfectly fine with me.
So here are a list of what I want:
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Reliable. I am too tired to be constantly in and out of the dealership fixing various little things with my ID4 so I want a car that as long as I do regular maintenance I won't have to worry about little/big issues. Maybe I am asking a lot? But just in general, what would be a mostly hassle-free car?
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"Self Drive" on highways. I know most cars still can't drive itself on highways. I am mostly looking for the functionality of my ID.4: adaptive cruise control, lane keep, steer itself, and is traffic aware. Would be great if it can do stop and go in traffic but not really required. Again, because of how much highway driving I do, I would like to have the technology to reduce the stress of driving as much as possible.
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CarPlay. I know this is pretty much standard now but just in case. I can't live without CarPlay.
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I would like to keep the car price under 35 max at 40k.
Thank you!
HotmailsInYourArea@reddit
Rav4 should meet that bill. What's nice about Toyotas, is since 2019 all their cars have the safety tech, from a loaded Sequoia down to a base-trim Corolla. Most makes you need to get the top trim package and it's still an option on top of that
badstuffaccount69@reddit
I own a 2024 RAV4, the lane assist is absolute trash. It bounces from left to right limits like a pin ball machine.
I am seriously considering buying a comma (aftermarket self driving) to make up for its lack of ability.
HotmailsInYourArea@reddit
Odd, it was pretty good in my 2019. Different roads, I suppose. Plus i think it was just lane-centering, not meant to actually take it around a curve (though it would on gradual highway ones) 🤔 idk covid kinda cooked my brain haha
badstuffaccount69@reddit
My old car was a 2012 ford fusion and it did a lot better job at keeping centered. My wife’s Tucson does a lot better job as well. It’s one of the very few weaknesses in my rav4 because I still love it. I wouldn’t not buy a rav because of it. I would just consider upgrading it with a comma or something if this was more important to me. I don’t drive enough highway to justify it.
HotmailsInYourArea@reddit
Sounds like an alignment issue then, since a 2012 Fusion did not have lane centering technology whatsoever
badstuffaccount69@reddit
Uhhh yes it did. It was on the titanium trim level. It also had self parallel park. Thing was decent. Only reason I got rid of it was that it rotted from living in an area that salts the roads.
HotmailsInYourArea@reddit
You’re sure it was a 2012? The boxy body style? Because I don’t think those even came in Titanium trim - certainly not in this sales brochure I found. Nor does it even list basic lane-keeping warning, or self parking.
AFAIK the first vehicle Ford gave the parallel parking to was the Lincoln MKS. It and it’s SHO brethren had adaptive cruise control good only at 30mph and up. The Ford Explorer at least had adaptive cruise by 2013.
I worked on Fords for a decent chunk of the 2010s.
Ain’t no fuckin’ way a 2012 fusion would keep itself in it’s lane with it’s safety tech. It wouldn’t have even had adaptive cruise afaik.
What market did you buy it in?
badstuffaccount69@reddit
Yes you are right, I mixed it up with my wife’s car, sorry about that confusion.
HotmailsInYourArea@reddit
My 19 Tacoma had that problem, the TRD Off-Road models had a different offset, and Toyota, in their wisdom, didn’t adjust the suspension geometry to accommodate for it. The other trims tracked well
Quirky-Supermarket-9@reddit (OP)
Yeah I think probably the best answer really is the most obvious… thank you for all the great points!
sfo2@reddit
Pretty much any CUV from any manufacturer can now be had with highway driving assist like you describe.
Quirky-Supermarket-9@reddit (OP)
Yeah. You know I was really attracted to the Mazda CX5, and the darn thing cannot steer itself! I was ready to head to the dealership tomorrow until I found out about that glaring problem!
sfo2@reddit
I think the top trim of the CX-50 has their highway assist, but for whatever reason they keep the older CX-5 around. I do love Mazda vehicles and have owned several. They drive better than their competitors.
Quirky-Supermarket-9@reddit (OP)
Oh, gotta take a look at 50 then. Thanks!
FantomTechnologies@reddit
Check into the CommaAI device that enables self driving for a host of different vehicles by building on their built in ADAS systems.
Quirky-Supermarket-9@reddit (OP)
Awesome advise! Thanks!
El_Pollo_Del-Mar@reddit
Mach E. Though ya still need to be an alert driver. If you’re too tired to pay attention, please don’t share the road with me. I mean that lovingly and sincerely.
nerobro@reddit
If you're driving 180 miles a day as a commute. I think this needs to be questioned first. That's going to be at least 3 hours of drivetime daily. Assuming 8 hours at work, that's tying up \~half your day\~, and making whatever salary you get worth only about 70% of what you're getting paid hourly. So.. unless this is like an oilfield job where you're pulling down 120/hr this sounds like a losing proposition.
Suggesting you're "too tired" to be driving, is also not a thing you should be managing. Even cars with lane centering aren't safe if you're not actively paying attention.
Also the 35k budget for the car indicates that this is not a sound financial decision.
I know this isn't car advice, but your situation isn't one that's actually about car advice.
Quirky-Supermarket-9@reddit (OP)
Thanks for the reply! The budget of 35k is not because I cannot afford more. It’s because I don’t want to spend more. If that makes sense. And I don’t commute daily and I don’t make hourly :)
nerobro@reddit
It does not make sense.
Noting that you to tired during your drive, means you're at the edges of your physical ability. \~that is not ok\~. It means you need to stop and sleep. Or sleep near work so you can have the appropriate alertness to drive home.
Your request sets up a situation, or encourages a situation that puts you, and everyone else on the road, in danger. If from start to finish 12 hours puts you in a physical condition that's poor enough you're looking at lane keeping features to keep you safe, you need to be closer to work.
Everyone can define their income as hourly. You need to calculate what you're making based on the hours you work regardless if you're making salary or hourly. Because commute time, is time you can't dedicate to other things in your life, it is "work" time.
Driving is also not free. This commute costs you a minimum of $30 each time you make that drive. Assuming you make 100k/yr, you make roughly $48/hr. Lets say you work 4-10's (you said you don't commute every day, I'll even give that you work 4 days a week) Your 40 hour week, actually costs you 52 hours a week. That takes your pay rate down to $37 dollars an hour. Throw in gas costs (assuming 35mpg) You're actually making 35.4/hr.
If you lived half an hour from work, under the same conditions, you'd be making 43.7 dollars an hour. And you'd have an extra full workday of time to do things for you.
The math gets worse if you drive 5 days a week.
Quirky-Supermarket-9@reddit (OP)
I deleted my response because I realized that I am not in the market to defend what I want to do. Thank you for your concern but I am fine and I can do math as well :)
delicate10drills@reddit
Hire a chauffeur.
badstuffaccount69@reddit
I own a 2024 rav4. I love it, but the lane assist is terrible. Boarder line unusable.
Quirky-Supermarket-9@reddit (OP)
Great to know! Thanks!
proscriptus@reddit
Ioniq 5 is tops
Quirky-Supermarket-9@reddit (OP)
No EV this time. Charging is a problem where my work place.
fasta_guy88@reddit
There is a reason why the Toyota RAV4 is the best selling SUV in the US. Great reliability. More than you want to pay new, but used prices don't depreciate much.
Quirky-Supermarket-9@reddit (OP)
Great points! My parents had a rav4 before they went fancy. So I somehow always equate rav4 to old couples. But I know that’s just my own bias. Lol. Need to go to the lot and look at them in person.
pilotallen@reddit
Subaru Outback — reliable, reasonable, with good technology
Quirky-Supermarket-9@reddit (OP)
You know, we are considering moving to the PNW, so that would fit the bill, lol. Thank you!! More research I do!
zealous_ideal666@reddit
Rav4 or used lexus nx if you want it a little fancier
Quirky-Supermarket-9@reddit (OP)
Used Lexus is great! But they’re so expensive near where I am! Like 46k+
bolunez@reddit
I had a Ford Explorer rental. The fancy cruise control was pretty impressive. It would take a turn and come to a full stop on the highway. Really made a rough drive out of Chicago this spring more tolerable.Â
Quirky-Supermarket-9@reddit (OP)
I’ve heard great things from my friends with Mach E’s so I’m assuming it’s similar!
ZN4STY@reddit
The new Toyota / Lexus self driving system integrates with CarPlay and works really really well at that price point. It’s a little weird at first because you just push a cruise control button and it just sort of takes over.
Ford has a pretty decent radar cruise control as well, but it’s a bit more hands-on than Toyota. Both the Toyota and Ford products will actually go around a corner.
In my experience, Subaru gets scared and turns off as soon as there’s any turns on the road. I haven’t been in a Honda or Mazda with an advanced cruise control system that I liked.
If you could find a 22-23 Cadillac XT6 with “super cruise” at that price point, it would be the closest thing to full self driving like Tesla, but with extra safety features that are pretty nice. Cadillac probably has the best self driving system of any of the major manufacturers, but it only works on the highways. You can tell if the car has it because there’s a light bar on the steering wheel. It is a fairly expensive option, so it’s not common on every car. I personally think GM products are generally trash, but Cadillac with super cruise is good.
Source : I drive a ton of rental cars for my job.
Quirky-Supermarket-9@reddit (OP)
Thank you SO much for the detailed reply! Super helpful!!
FlintHillsSky@reddit
Honda CRV Hybrd