Expect to be low balled?
Posted by Ashamed_Whole_1476@reddit | askcarguys | View on Reddit | 13 comments
Hey guys,
Have a 2017 honda accord transmission couple v6 i am selling to the dealer.
I realize ill get less money than a private sale, for the convenience I'm okay with that as I have a lot going on right now.
142,000 km on it. Well taken care of with oil changes, timing belt changed a couple years ago. It says on auto trader im looking at $13,100 to $15,700 k for it. I'm in Canada. I'm wondering if there is any way I can potentially get more, since I heard honda accord manual transmissions are somewhat in demand since hondas dont make v6 manual transmissions anymore. Or should I be expecting to get low balled. I decided im not letting the car go for less than 14k.
No hateful comments im just looking for advice.
Thanks.
Gunk_Olgidar@reddit
Dealers will always seek to make a profit on any car sale. And they will want to hedge their risks of losing money. So their trade-in offers will often be close to auction price, which is going to be less than their asking retail price so they can make a profit. But close to auction so they don't lose money if they have to dump it. If they sell the car on their lot, they make a few grand. If they can't sell it on their lot then they either sell it to a local buy-here-pay-here for a few hundred more than they paid (or same if in a pinch) or they ship it to the auction.
In the states, sales taxes are structured to help car dealers stay in business, so the customer doing the trade is taxed only on the net spend (purchase price - trade in = net) -- so your tax savings on the new car is passed to the dealer in the form of the lower trade-in price.
For dealers of desirable cars -- for example the Lexus dealer in my town -- they lowball trades about USD$3k below most other dealers' trade-in offers. This is both good and bad. Bad if you trade-in for a new purchase, but good if you're going to buy a used car off their lot, because you can low-ball your offer and they'll take it if it's higher than auction price less fees & transport, because they're still making money. Been there and done that myself and saved a bundle!
jd780613@reddit
Dealer will probably offer you $5k. You should probably go in there and work a deal on your new car without the trade in, and then ask them what they would give you cash for your accord today. Then at least you have a baseline
Ashamed_Whole_1476@reddit (OP)
Dumb question but obviously im not obliged to sell it right ? Even after they do their inspection, check out all my paperwork etc etc. I never dealt with a dealership before.
So ill just see what theyre offering as a baseline
jd780613@reddit
Nope. I’ve been to a couple different dealerships in the last few months and they just kinda look over your truck, give you a number and then you can say yes or no
xXCodfishXx@reddit
Dealers give you a terrible price, it's just a fact. They often used what is called the black book for pricing, which is not available to consumers.
I would strongly recommend you sell it private party, yes it is a hassle but you will get much more. If there's someone in your life you trust see who's less busy see if you can get them to sell it on commission, you'll still get more.
Ashamed_Whole_1476@reddit (OP)
Good idea, thank you for the reply and help.
LSBm5@reddit
A private sale to the right person is gonna be your best option. It doesn’t have terribly high mileage and it is a manual as you say, but I don’t think you’re gonna get a ton more.
Ashamed_Whole_1476@reddit (OP)
Thank you
AbruptMango@reddit
Especially with a (unmodded) manual, private sale is the way to go. A dealer is thinking "I'm never going to find someone to buy a manual, most of my salesmen can't even drive one" and lowball the hell out of you because it's going to the auction.
frikkinfai@reddit
Instead of looking for KBB prices as your desired outcome, I would frame your expectations based on what you would get if you were to sell to the dealer.
As an example, KBB is telling you it's worth 13-15k, dealer is offering 11k. If I were selling private party, I'm targeting anything over 11k or else it's not worth the trouble of selling private. Price it at 13k, settle for 12k. If you can't get anyone over 11k, you're better off just selling to the dealer
Ashamed_Whole_1476@reddit (OP)
Thank you for the detailed response.
frikkinfai@reddit
Another thing I forgot to mention: KBB prices aren't always reflective of the actual market. Browse Facebook marketplace/Craigslist for cars similar to yours in year and mileage, what you see out in the wild is better barometer of what you're gonna get selling private party
Ashamed_Whole_1476@reddit (OP)
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