What is the best, cheap, boring "appliance" car today ?
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_MadSuburbanDad_@reddit
Take your pick from four of the five most recommended cars on this sub:
Corolla, Camry, Accord, and Civic.
The Miata is scratched from the list because it's not boring.
PurpleSausage77@reddit
Those are a given, they’ve been on these kind of lists for two decades maybe more.
The new kids on the block are going to be nameless small crossovers/CUV’s
Also Mazda3/Mazda6 get overlooked.
ucbiker@reddit
Car guys will never admit it but crossovers have a decent amount of added utility to normies. Old people find it easier to slide into the slightly higher seats and the higher ground clearance does actually help in places with shit or lightly unpaved roads, which is a lot of places in America.
beipphine@reddit
I drive a full sized wagon and it has more utility than every crossover. Sure the crossover has slightly higher seats, but the wagon has more interior space, more seating capacity (seats 7 people in 3 rows), better towing capacity (5000 lbs) softer more comfortable ride. With the back 2 rows of seats folded down I can fit a 4x8 sheet entirely inside.
1996 Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon
timmeh-eh@reddit
Even in more modern cars this is true, a VW golf wagon (not a big car) has ~30 cubic feet of cargo room behind the rear seats. An Audi Q5, a similarly sized (though more expensive) crossover has ~25 cubic feet of cargo space behind the rear seats. The fancy CUV has worse utility than the compact wagon.
Bi-mwm-47@reddit
Your 30 year old Roadmaster has a ginormous footprint, and holds 54.7 cu. ft. of luggage space behind the second row, and 92 cu. ft. behind the first row. They don’t quote a “behind the third row” figure, as use of the rear-facing jump seats almost entirely precluded carriage of any luggage.
For comparison, a Buick Enclave, which would be the closest equivalent vehicle in Buick’s current line-up, has 57.7 cu. ft. behind the second row, 97 cu. ft. behind the first row, and 23.6 cu. ft. behind the third row. It matches the Roadmaster’s 5,000 lb. towing capacity, if equipped with the optional towing package. With all this, the Enclave gets better EPA fuel economy than the Roadmaster; either 21 or 23 MPG EPA combined (for AWD and FWD, respectively), vs. 18 MPG combined for the RWD only Roadmaster. The Roadmaster is also short ~60 HP, at 260 HP, vs. the Enclave’s 328 HP.
The Enclave is nearly a foot shorter than the Roadmaster, despite having a five inch longer wheelbase, so I’ll grant it might have an issue with the plywood. It’s certainly also a much larger initial investment, compared to its depreciated 30 year old ancestor.
beipphine@reddit
Well I stand corrected.
The roadmaster also had an optional towing package that allowed for up to 7000 lbs as well as a roof rack for carrying additional luggage.
The Enclave is also short \~6 Ft-lbs of Torque 330 ft-lbs at 2400 rpm vs 226 ft-lbs at 3500 rpm, and the torque also peaks at a much higher rpm, with very similar weights, so the acceleration under most normal driving is likely to be similar. Both cars are also equipped with safety features such as dual front airbags and anti-lock breaks.
It's shocking how similar the two vehicles really are despite 30 years age difference.
Bi-mwm-47@reddit
The two models do, in fact, have similar 0-60 and quarter mile times, with curb weights in the same ballpark. The Enclave has an 8 speed automatic, to the Roadmaster’s 4 speed, helping its cause in acceleration and fuel economy, despite making less torque at a higher RPM.
What is perhaps more telling is that the Roadmaster got its performance via a slightly de-tuned Corvette engine, while the Enclave makes do with what is basically an entry level pickup truck engine, that in today’s GM truck line occupies the same market position the 4.3L V6 did, when the Roadmaster rolled off the line.
mikkowus@reddit
But if they made a suv with the same going coverage, but slightly taller.... Is buy that over a wagon
beipphine@reddit
They did, called the Suburban
mikkowus@reddit
Those are perfect. I'd like one with a tuned Chevy 350 and a more modern transmission.
mikkowus@reddit
So much truth here. I'll never go back to a regular car
RIPGoblins2929@reddit
My wife has some mobility issues and it's easy easier for her to get into her cuv than my car.
Damm thing is about as much fun to drive as a math test though.
coffeebribesaccepted@reddit
Yeah I'd much rather have a crossover than a fwd econobox. More useful as a daily, ground clearance and AWD for light off-roading or bad weather, and the handling has gotten much better on many of them.
f700es@reddit
Easier to load and unload.
friendIdiglove@reddit
Honda HR-V, Honda CR-V, Toyota RAV4, and Toyota Corolla Cross. There are no others.
Aggravating_Bag8666@reddit
The 3 base model is imo the best/most reliable car near 25k msrp. I'd rather a civic hybrid over a top trim turbo 3 though.
Kaatochacha@reddit
That's kind of the decision I made, based on the 50MPG
LevelInvestigator903@reddit
Until the CVT gearbox breaks. At that point they don't sell parts so you're looking at $5k+ for a new transmission. And it's happening *way* sooner than it used to.
__Bren__@reddit
The Honda CVT is super stout
Cool_Butterscotch_88@reddit
Just the gas cvt or hybrid too?
Nstraclassic@reddit
id be pretty concerned if the hybrids are already failing regularly
Kapurnicus@reddit
As an NA miata owner, your proclamation makes me happy.
jrileyy229@reddit
Uh no... Did you know Mitsubishi is still in business and selling cars in North America?
You want the cheapest and most boring car, go check out an 18k dollar brand new mirage... Even has a 100k mile warranty!
_MadSuburbanDad_@reddit
You are 1,000 percent right and that was a huge oversight on my part. The Mirage has to be on that list, and is the literal definition of an appliance. I rented one in 2023 with something like 400 miles on it and it was absolutely terrible....:)
ImpliedSlashS@reddit
Could be worse. I rented a Jeep (Liberty or Patriot… don’t remember) in 2017. I gently applied the brake for a red light and the damn thing ripped the wheel out of my hands and tried to send me into parked cars. Looked it up online and it’s normal.
PlzBuryMeWithIt@reddit
They did ask for “best” I wouldn’t wish a mirage on my worst enemies
jrileyy229@reddit
Yes, it depends on how you read the sentence. Would have been far more logical to say "out of all the cheap and boring cars, which is the best?". You would also need to define 'best'
PerformanceDouble924@reddit
Plus one of the highest death rates of any car sold.
cat_prophecy@reddit
I drove a hybrid Camry a few months ago as a rental. It was just the LE model and while it wasn't thrilling to drive, it also wasn't bad.
If you didn't give a shit about cars, and needed a car that can comfortably fit four adults. It's almost certainly the best option. Also it gets 50mpg so there's that.
smegma-cheesecake@reddit
Camry is not cheap. That’s almost a flagship toyota and it’s 1.5 times more expensive than Corolla. I’d say Aygo and Yaris
SamoaDisDik@reddit
Mazda 3 and 6 are slept on
mekoRascal@reddit
Any of those in awd?
_MadSuburbanDad_@reddit
The GR Corolla is AWD but definitely not an appliance....
StarHammer_01@reddit
2025 update for the op's question: Corolla-cross, Rav4, CR-V, and HR-V
_MadSuburbanDad_@reddit
Not sure why your comment was downvoted. You're absolutely on target. CUVs are the new sedans....
alrightcommadude@reddit
While not cheap cheap, Tesla Model 3.
Tin_Can_739@reddit
It’s so bad I put a Maytag badge on mine.
I have put 30k miles and only had to put air in the tires. So boring /s
davidrools@reddit
1000%. And they're not even expensive. They just go, needing neary zero maintenance. The only downside is the stupid political shit around the company's figurehead. An objective, informed opinion is nearly impossible to find on the internet.
RicoViking9000@reddit
thats the opposite of a boring appliance car.
mirage on the opposite end of the spectrum more likely
BoldNewBranFlakes@reddit
Depends on your expectations. It’s quicker than the average cars on the road but besides the acceleration the Model 3 can be quite boring if you’re used to cars with dynamics other than 0-60 times.
jdmayhorn@reddit
Corolla Hybrid, hands down.
Mountain_Usual521@reddit
I think the Camry hybrid is one of the best deals going right now.
smegma-cheesecake@reddit
It’s not cheap. It’s basically a premium Toyota with leather interior and a large 2.5 engine.
Yaris and Corolla are more basic and much more popular cars, they are also the most popular pick for uber
Mountain_Usual521@reddit
"Best deal" doesn't mean "least expensive."
ElGrandeRojo67@reddit
Corolla, Civic, Mazda 3.
Intel_Oil@reddit
Dacia Sandero
Ejmct@reddit
At least if you buy a Honda or Toyota you bought a reliable car. Yes it’s an appliance but at least people are getting a decent reliable car with good resale value when they want to get rid of it. Buying an Altima/Rouge you get an appliance but probably just shopped on price and really didn’t put any thought into it beyond that.
Ejmct@reddit
The quintessential car for people who know nothing about cars and just want to get from Point A to Point B is the Altima or possibly a Rogue.
ImpliedSlashS@reddit
It’s the getting to point B where a Nissan will get you into trouble
Ejmct@reddit
Yes. But people see the cost of the Altima and Rogue compared to the equivalent Honda and Toyota and think they’re getting a bargain.
Decent_Study_8460@reddit
How bout a golf?
black-kramer@reddit
expensive upkeep.
smegma-cheesecake@reddit
Golf is super cheap and if you pick 1.0 engine it is also very reliable, fuel efficient and will be bulletproof even at a very high mileage
black-kramer@reddit
a new one is in the mid 30s. that's not cheap for most people. 1.0 engine doesn't exist in the united states.
smegma-cheesecake@reddit
I think people would still buy it even in the us. Majority of people don’t care, they want the cheapest option possible. That’s why it sells so well
black-kramer@reddit
trust me, they would not sell well. this is a country of freeway driving amongst larger cars with more powerful engines. 1.0 liter with 66 hp doesn't cut it for anything other than driving around town.
smegma-cheesecake@reddit
It’s 1.0 115 hp and it’s happy to do 140-160 km/h on highways over here so around 85-100 mph. It’s more than enough for Americans
facticitytheorist@reddit
Kia picanto
PhysicsAndFinance85@reddit
Toyota builds the most boring cars on the planet and has for decades. Honda being a close second. The occasional specialty model will bring about an ounce of personality into the mix, but that's about it.
Aside from that, look at almost anything electric. Yes, they can be fast. But any time you're not at full throttle is basically like driving your dishwasher.
magaketo@reddit
Chevy Bolt. The most appliancy appliance.
CumIsntVegan@reddit
I have a Volt, it's very appliancey and is good in between if you aren't ready for a full electric. 0-30 is surprisingly quick for an appliance car though. The downside being the generators in second gens have known issues and the first gens are aging out so maybe not the best option.
ImpliedSlashS@reddit
You seriously haven’t driven an i4.
RicoViking9000@reddit
what electric cars have you driven
PhysicsAndFinance85@reddit
Multiple tesla models since they were introduced, some little Kia suv a couple years ago, a Porsche Maycan, a Cadillac lyriq, and an F150.
I really wanted to get into something electric because it would be perfect for my commute. They're all just so boring. There's nothing to really enjoy in the driving experience.
MoistMonarch@reddit
Honestly that's the part I love about my Y. It's the complete opposite of my 500hp 6 speed M3. I can shut my brain off when I drive and go back to the F80 when I want something more engaging or not in stand/still traffic.
PhysicsAndFinance85@reddit
I get it. Everyone has their preferences. I have plenty of toys and I'm not at a point in my life where cost really matters. But for some reason I just can't get into them even though I want to. I think a good portion of it is my drive to work. I have about a half hour commute most days through windy country roads into the city. I feel like I'll be bored to sleep
MoistMonarch@reddit
It’s actually pretty fun to send a EV through windy roads, the center of gravity is low because of the battery and the 4WD grip is absurd. Worth a try
PhysicsAndFinance85@reddit
Tried a few. They just didn't do it for me.
w1ldSeraph@reddit
How is the Prius not top of the list?
Valedictorian117@reddit
Toyota Corolla
Toyota in general is kinda boring with how behind they are in tech and luxury features, but they’ll last a long time like a good appliance does.
ImpliedSlashS@reddit
“Behind in luxury” isn’t the way I would phrase it. I rented one a few months ago and it was [seriously can’t find a word for how cheap it felt]?
The_One_Who_Comments@reddit
I recently rented a mirage, then test drove a Corolla, and I was blown away by how cheap it felt.
The interior is nicer, and it can accelerate but... I couldn't even identify what made it feel so bad!
Valedictorian117@reddit
Lol I was being nice but yeah I totally get you
LethalBacon@reddit
Traded in my '16 GTI Autobahn for a '21 Rav4 XLE in 2024. Biggest drop in interior quality I've ever experienced, lol. The Rav4 is more practical I suppose, but man do I miss being in a more driver-centric car.
india2wallst@reddit
Omg no. Going from manual to CVT 😭😭🙂↔️
squatdeadpress@reddit
A rav is not a CVT, it’s an 8spd. Unless it’s hybrid then it’s “ecvt” which is not to be confused with a standard cvt
Tractorface123@reddit
I know cars really must have a screen now but can’t someone like Toyota just put it on a double DIN so I can immediately put something else in? Worst case I have to put it back in once a year for the MOT.
coffeebribesaccepted@reddit
How many cars have a double DIN now?
Tractorface123@reddit
I know cars really must have a screen now but can’t someone like Toyota just put it on a double DIN so I can immediately put something else in? Worst case I have to put it back in once a year for the MOT.
Liv4thmusic@reddit
Civic.
OverCorpAmerica@reddit
Mazda compact, Toyota Corolla, Chevrolet compact, ford compacts, etc
pooo_pourri@reddit
Hyundai Kona, the interior is best described as a plastic tub, the lane assist borderline drives for you. It is literally just there to get you from point A to point B with no creature comforts outside of car play
Familiar_Speaker_278@reddit
If you like your appliances to break all the time go with this suggestion.
pooo_pourri@reddit
The man said nothing about reliability, just cheap and boring
Familiar_Speaker_278@reddit
Lol, breaking down with 30k miles ain't boring.
ImpliedSlashS@reddit
That’s not “all the time.” Just one big one.
2009impala@reddit
Toyota Corolla
7empestSpiralout@reddit
Tesla model 3
yaboidabdaddy@reddit
If you want to literal about “appliance”, then any of the basic Teslas
rubenthecuban3@reddit
Definitely not. So much software in that car. They can even remotely turn it off
SteveTheBluesman@reddit
Terrible reliability ratings. They are always near the bottom of the barrel using any metric.
yaboidabdaddy@reddit
Oh don’t get me wrong, I hate Teslas and this was not an endorsement. Just making an appliance joke because they are the microwaves of cars
ShindoHaut@reddit
A Corolla, but definitely not the GR Corolla. lol
BoldNewBranFlakes@reddit
Honda Civic. The interior is pretty spacious, decent fuel economy, still boring to drive but motr sporty than competitors.
FordF150ChicagoFan@reddit
Civics are Corvettes compared to Corollas.
Nstraclassic@reddit
type r sure is
AnotherDrone001@reddit
Corolla hybrid or Civic hybrid
cat_prophecy@reddit
Mitsubishi Mirage and Nissan Versa.
Thatnewgui@reddit
Chevy spark
InnocentToddler0321@reddit
Mirage
kl2342@reddit
Mazda CX-5
Necessary-Score-4270@reddit
Everyone here is wrong.
The true answer is the Mitsubishi Mirage. You can have a 4dr sedan, or if you're feeling frisky, go with the 5dr (no so)hot hatch.
smegma-cheesecake@reddit
Dacia Duster, Sandero, every Dacia. Clio, Yaris hybrid, Fabia
Other_crisp@reddit
Gotta be honest, Dacia
jeepsies@reddit
Corolla
zeilstar@reddit
All I really want is a double DIN hole in the dash. No one called me up yet for a consumer survey though.
Firm-Rest1860@reddit
Avoid: Turbocharged Toyotas or Mazdas, especially turbo and hybrid ones, Subarus in general, pretty much everything else
aquatone61@reddit
Anything made by Toyota.
captaincheem@reddit
Peak consumer "appliance" car is 100% the prius imo. But with 57 mpg combined, 6 second 0-60, plenty of space, and theyre not ugly anymore with that toyota reliablity i feel like there's not much more you can ask as a regular person. You can get a good one for around 30 which isn't the cheapest out there but a really good deal for all you get.
SP92216@reddit
Depends. Brand new? They don’t make cars anymore only SUV and Truck. Used. I’d say a Chevy Cruze or a Versa are cars I would call appliances.
ManyInterests427@reddit
One little opinion here. I recently drove a '24 Toyota Corolla Hybrid. It was surprisingly nice- smooth, quiet, powerful enough and nicely appointed inside. It felt and looked better than an appliance. Its owner stated it gets 55mpg too! Impressive!
FrankCostanzaJr@reddit
depend on how old you want it to be, what type of car you like driving?
if you want "New" i'm seeing 2025 corollas and camrys with like 10k or so miles for around 25k.
but if you're like me, and want a GREAT deal. i've seen plenty of camry 5 speed's with around 100k miles for waaay less than 10k. same with accords and they have the K24 or a V6 with a 5 speed, and personally i think they look way better and more sporty than the camry. but i the camry is probably a tiny bit more reliable.
if you want something sporty, pre turbo Civic Si's with low miles go for around 12-15k in basically perfect stock condition.
if you want something more luxurious, but still sporty like the Civic si, with a fun engine, the Acura ILX is pretty nice. kinda boring looking, totally blends in, but same exact engine as the Si of the same year around 2015ish and relatively inexpensive.
Twogens@reddit
Any compact economy SUV or sedan.
They’re all hybrids or turbo charged 4 bangers with a CVT or 9-10 speeds tuned for fuel economy and gentle acceleration.
Dogshit.
TunakTun633@reddit
A $24K Corolla LE Hybrid is $5K cheaper than the other hybridized Japanese econoboxes, and it's both the most reliable and the most efficient. If you're looking for an appliance, there's your answer.
Civics, Camries and Accords are nicer. But you pay for that.
SteveTheBluesman@reddit
New? The normally aspirated Civic or HRV with the 140hp 2.0.
Slow and boring but will outlive the cockroaches.
Maddad_666@reddit
Most Nissans at this point too.
havnar-@reddit
Dacia duster
Aromatic-Leopard-600@reddit
Add a Malibu to that.
whoooootfcares@reddit
Current gen Nissan Versa manual. Simple, small displacement naturally aspirated engine, non complex suspension, non CVT transmission, and a starting price a ways below 20k new.
It was designed so a home mechanic with a good set of hand tools could work on it like we all used to.
It is the only current production car I'm aware of that has this philosophy.
impreza77@reddit
Corolla hybrid
mattynmax@reddit
The Corolla is still pretty affordable
chibicascade2@reddit
Probably one of the hybrid sedans from Toyota. Prius, Carrolla, Camry, whatever.
hatred-shapped@reddit
Crv/RAV4.
xXCodfishXx@reddit
Same as it's been for the last 30-40 years, Corolla, Camry and Civic. Accords obviously pretty boring too, but the latest model got a glowing review for it's handling and performance in car and driver.
Total-Improvement535@reddit
Subaru Crosstrek