J24 Genoa on a Mirage 24!
Posted by CanadianStiggy@reddit | sailing | View on Reddit | 18 comments
After getting my mainsail fixed, I recently got the chance to try a j24 genoa on my boat! It works remarkably well, aside from being a foot short on the top. Even got some wing-on-wing action in! Might be buying a similar sail soon...
Last_Cod_998@reddit
Now you have a fractional rig.
CanadianStiggy@reddit (OP)
I suppose I do lol, although I could put the foot of the sail a bit higher to reach the top if I really wanted to.
Arkimede@reddit
the more air you have moving under that foot the more turbulence you will have on the backside of your sail disturbing flow and wind attachment. There's a reason there is a shelf built into jibs and deck sweeping genoas like you see on race boats.
CanadianStiggy@reddit (OP)
Hmmmm so a safer bet would be to do something about the lifeline, rather than move the sail up? (Keep in mind I'm racing the boat next year)
Arkimede@reddit
The safest bet would be to get a purpose made sail, or one closer to the dimensions of a sail that was made for your boat, thie high cut on that genoa, is not going to be as fast as the former.
The best way to make the best of the j24 genoa you have for your boat? Talk to a sail maker. Sometimes in situations like this, there isn't really a good answer, because sails are usually purpose built things. They aren't like car tires where the same size rims are on lots of vehicles of different makes and models.
CanadianStiggy@reddit (OP)
That's fair. But frankly, I've been tinkering with the idea of deleting the 2 front stantions and lifeline, keeping the lifeline from the middle of the boat to the back, strictly for this purpose. Of course it'd be reversible, basically adding a new clip-on point from the middle to the bow sprit. Generally speaking, I prefer to take the loss on the height department.
Public_Knee6288@reddit
Seems like a good idea to prevent wear on the foot and lifelines
CanadianStiggy@reddit (OP)
Yeahhhh that lifeline is not happy
CanadianStiggy@reddit (OP)
Definitely, I'd just need a small line of some kind to link between the clip at the base of the sail and the hook on the deck, but something easily removable so I can still use my 110% seamlessly
jonnohb@reddit
Small piece of dyneema with two eyes with thimbles spliced into it. Probably cost $20 or less to diy.
CanadianStiggy@reddit (OP)
Dyneema saves the day once again... I was thinking some chain with shackles on either end, but strength and flexibility wise, dyneema is WAY better
frontbutthole@reddit
Is that one of those weird 135% genoas they made for the 24s? I've never actually seen one before, only the 150%
CanadianStiggy@reddit (OP)
No it's a j24 genoa, not intended for a mirage. By my calculations it's about 155%? I wanted a mirage sail, but a triradial mylar sail for like, 500$ is not an offer I'd pass up seeing how well it fits.
frontbutthole@reddit
Right, I follow, I own and race a 24. The j24 club race genoa is 150%, but I don't think the laminate ever came in white. They also made a 135% that I've only heard about and never seen for the rare 24's with furlers, which I believe was white.
CanadianStiggy@reddit (OP)
Fair, this is a hank on sail, its a 155% for MY boats specs. I think for a j24 its a 150%, I could ask the guy who the sail belongs to. The sail I'll get is blue though
frontbutthole@reddit
Curious! You didn't happen to catch the manufacture name on it, did you?
CanadianStiggy@reddit (OP)
It's US sails
Last_Cod_998@reddit
Now you have a fractional rig.