Polish far-right politician announces relationship with intersex woman and quits party
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PartySr@reddit
Far right are a bunch of hypocrites anyway. They fap all day to lesbian porn, and maybe even hentai, and they cry wolf about all sort of stuff that are harmless.
SleepyTonia@reddit
The popularity of trans porn basically never drops in conservative areas. Only the slurs used in video titles change over time. Gotta stay 'hip' when punching down, am I right? They live their whole life being told "gay bad" and it freaks them out that they could be, or already are attracted to some people that aren't of the opposite biological sex.
Pornhub did a lot of wrong, but I love their yearly graphs.
Reagalan@reddit
It is now that conservative areas banned porn.
20-something states and counting.
It's an assault by inhuman demons on two of the most precious human experiences; art, and sex.
NotStompy@reddit
Wait, 20 states have banned porn, like right now, already implemented? Or proposals do to do?
Reagalan@reddit
21 states as of 18 Aug 2025
When folks talk of the Republican Party as fascist theocrats, this is why.
pm_me_BMW_M3_GTR_pls@reddit
The "gay left" is less gay than the right
Old_Wallaby_7461@reddit
So much of the extremely antigay right really is gay and attempting to come off as straight as possible.
I'm not gay and I don't really care too much about gay people- let them have their rights, etc- and I cannot understand why anyone would care so much unless they're actually gay and desperately trying to deflect from it.
Irr3sponsibl3@reddit
If you're a gay politician and you're part of the Left you can pretty much continue to live your life as normal. But if you're gay and on the Right and have to espouse traditional values to appeal to your voter base, you're easy to blackmail.
Level_Hour6480@reddit
Speaking as a straight^1 lefty, I know what I'm aboot and am fully open to what I'm aboot. The right is ashamed of who they are and demonize themselves.
^1 heterosexual/aromantic, so my actions are completely straight, but my internal processes are different
Fearless-Feature-830@reddit
Honestly I’m a gay and I probably think about trans people less than right pies
bannedByTencent@reddit
Gay left are tops, while gay right are bottoms, lol.
shmackinhammies@reddit
Stereotyping homosexuals while on the moral high ground, are we? Bold move, Cotton.
Toldasaurasrex@reddit
Power bottoms maybe?
reddit_is_geh@reddit
Everyone knows lesbians aren't real bro. It's two straight chicks just waiting for the right D. So technically it makes it straight porn.
aaddaammoo@reddit
Wtf??
somewhataccurate@reddit
^ someone who doesnt know what sarcasm is
showerbridge@reddit
People really like to kick the latter... They got their rights and dont want to give it to others who have not gotten their rights...
We see it so much in far right circles where they are gay and are against trans... Those who are LGB and against trans....
Those who are LGBTQ but against migrants....
Thangoman@reddit
Tbh isnt Intersex not LGBT? Because unlike LGBT people who can be supressed, the existence itself of intersex people is zomething the right can do nothing about
LuxFaeWilds@reddit
... They absolutely do oppress intersex people with forced, non consensual surgeries.
Every single anti trans law contains an exception for forced surgeries on intersex people.
Not to mention the anti trans laws inherently screw all other intersex people. Not to mention are based on the idea thst intersex people don't exist.
And by the actual definition of intersex (someone who has sex atypical / dual sex characteristics) applies to all lgbt people. Trans people were actually categorized as intersex till psychriatrists said that conversion therapy could work.
NamerNotLiteral@reddit
Intersex people were widely acknowledged in most societies around the world.
And then the fucking Europeans rammed Catholicism down everyone else's throats — the single most queerphobic religion there is, and caused such a degree of social change that it warped every other religion in the area into queerphobia.
Did you know that Islam actually generally acknowledges Transgender and Intersex people? In Iran, under sharia law they actually dedicate funds for supporting gender-affirming surgery. For intersex people the islamic rule is just to ask if you're into men or women and treat you as the opposite of what you're attracted to (the enforced heterosexuality is still bad though). The fact most Islamic countries are still queerphobic to the extent they are is very much because of colonialist influences.
RiskDry6267@reddit
Iran funds gender surgeries because homosexuality gets the death penalty you donut. How is that progressive? To force gay people to be trans?
NamerNotLiteral@reddit
Where tf did I even use the word "progressive"?
I simply highlighted that being fanatically against everyone under the LGBTQ+ umbrella is a product of fundamentalist Christianity and Colonialism and various forms of queerness other than homosexuality used to be widely acknowledged by many societies.
crahamgrackered@reddit
Bruv you are trafficking some wild half-truths. Let me say I'm not here to defend Catholicism and you are correct about their role in reducing acceptance in places like the Americas and Asia. But I'm unsure why you'd move to (at least partially) defend Islam when in the modern world they are the epicenter of anti-LGBT sentiment today. The "opposite of who you're attracted to" bit is an oversimplification. Calling Iran supportive of trans people is a stretch when many of those "trans" individuals are in fact homosexuals whose only method of staying with their partner is to switch genders.
Thangoman@reddit
They can fix it aesthetically but intersex will NEVER fit into the conservative definition of man or woman.
I do agree that they are very opressed, but LGBT people are those people which reject traditional gender outlook while intersex people CANT fit into it
Oriin690@reddit
Neither will gay or trans people. Suppressing lgbtq people doesn’t make them not lgbtq it means they won’t be visible and if they are visible they can hurt them.
They suppress intersex people to fit into societies binary as much as they can and they suppress other queer people as much as they can. Neither ever disappear.
Thangoman@reddit
Yes, they can be forced into the narrow view of the right. They have been for hundreds of years
Im not saying that they are less harassed than the others, but its not really the same thing
Oriin690@reddit
I’m not sure what distinction you’re making here
LuxFaeWilds@reddit
Are you actually saying that changing a penis into a vagina is just "aesthetics" and isn't forcing someone into a gender norm?
Thangoman@reddit
If a woman was born with a penis avcording to the roght it cant ever be a woman. Tryong to hide it wont change that its how they think
averi_fox@reddit
They can be forced easily: "Interwho? There is only man or woman. Everything else is a mental disorder."
zanotam@reddit
Human beings cannot have "dual" sexual characteristics. You have to go back hundreds of millions of years in time ancestrally to find a species that we're directly descended from that could be hermaphrodites .
DINNERTIME_CUNT@reddit
r/confidentlyincorrect.
zanotam@reddit
Literally see my exit dumbass. Like, by definition intersex people are not hermaphrodites! They're terms which were historically used interchangeably but it's super incorrect to do so in modern times to the point that Wikipedia had to have a statement in their page for intersex (humans) specifically saying "not to be confused with hermaphrodite."
DINNERTIME_CUNT@reddit
You’re the only one talking about hermaphrodites.
overtoke@reddit
the ai just gave me a comparison. intersex characteristics (there's a list) are as prevalent as red hair in the global population.
LuxFaeWilds@reddit
Saying flat out that lgbti people don't exist is quite the claim.
zanotam@reddit
What the fuck are you smoking? Humans can be intersex, but their is a limit to the ways they can be intersex because of how human embryos develop.
Bauser99@reddit
Oh, you precious summer child... Please ask an actual doctor sometime whether or not there are people who are born with intersex sexual characteristics
(Spoiler alert: There are)
Socky_McPuppet@reddit
Oh, sweet summer child.
They can (and likely will) put them on trains to the camps, and herd them into the showers. That is what the right will do about intersex.
blown-transmission@reddit
There is big overlap with intersex people and LGB and especially T people. Their struggles are also shared and come from the same source of traditional binary understanding of human gender and sexuality. It is often included in LGBTQ"I"A
showerbridge@reddit
There is LGBTQIA+, for me I don't see it as a "we only support our kind", LGBTQ festivals are usually where you will see all types of people from all walks of life, that's what we should be about
Thangoman@reddit
Oh I dont disagree with your point overall, I was just nitpicking the word ypu were using
MydnightAurora@reddit
Makes no sense, we're all in danger, huddle together for warmth
showerbridge@reddit
I don't understand
MydnightAurora@reddit
Meant that marginalized communities such as trans folk like me and immigrants should support each other, apologies for the confusion
Rociel@reddit
Even LG are sometimes against B. They just can't get their shit straight I guess.
CubedMeatAtrocity@reddit
True. I’d like to add that intersex and trans aren’t the same thing.
Oriin690@reddit
Also you can be both
CubedMeatAtrocity@reddit
True!
showerbridge@reddit
Ah yea, that was just an example because I have seen so much of people who are gay and against trans... Which is really weird in some cases where they end up in a crowd of people who are also anti gay
LastAccountPlease@reddit
Should be against migrants if you are lgbt. They aren't here to protect your rights and wanna take them away as well.
showerbridge@reddit
Ah yes, we support all minorities except this one... This is the bad one...
Bruw, are your institutions so crippled that some migrants with literal 0 political power can come and take your rights away??
I have yet to hear any real migrant political orgs who want to take your rights away.
You know who want to take your rights away??? The rightwing parties... Why do you think that the politician had to leave his party? The party is against intersex people...
How can you look at the news that is just in front of you and then blame something else.
Why did the politician find it necessary to leave the party?
LastAccountPlease@reddit
Yes, come to Berlin and get attacked a few times by migrants for being gay like I have, then you will realise they are trying to actively take away my rights. 🌹
medivhthewizard@reddit
Visit Marzahn to enjoy the tolerant and pure white culture for yourself. The biggest enemy of the queer rights in Germany are the AfD, but of course a Nazi wouldn't want to learn from what happened to Ernst Röhm.
LastAccountPlease@reddit
Its so dumb right? It's a shame there's no left party, who prioritises wanting healthy migration
showerbridge@reddit
There is nothing different between your way of seeing the world and the far right, you are gay so you can see how other white LGBTQ people experience are... You are not a migrant so you cannot see how their experiences are...
You will literally be in the same anti migrant protest as the far right, the next week the same person will be having an anti gay protest but you won't be there.
LastAccountPlease@reddit
This is circular logic. I don't want to be attacked in my country, for who I am. Therefore I don't want more people in my country, who want to attack me.
Ukrainian migrants aren't attacking me :)
showerbridge@reddit
Well that entails that none white people don't like gay people... And last time I saw the article it is a party full of white people who are against intersex people, so much that the politicians find it necessary to leave the party
vanillabeanlover@reddit
We’ve got a local trans woman who is against anyone underage being trans. She didn’t transition until her 30’s so that apparently means everyone has to wait until they’re in their 30’s.
Oriin690@reddit
Some people think being pick mes means conservatives will like them
They never do.
It’s kind of sad but also morally bankrupt and pathetic
Apart-Apple-Red@reddit
Perhaps, but at least he wasn't hiding anything and he left. That's some decency there.
I wish him well in his relationship although I'm not going to miss him in the party.
showerbridge@reddit
He is only not against it because it affects him. I hope he will be more open to other minorities.
Hopefully he won't get harassed by his party members and the people who voted for him
Apart-Apple-Red@reddit
I don't think he will be harassed because I'm from his party and I have no ill feelings towards him.
Besides, he is not against what?
And what do you mean about other minorities? Do you think being gay suddenly makes you like other minorities? That would imply that not being gay makes you not like minorities, which I hope you understand is nonsense, right?
alternaivitas@reddit
Is this false?
Apart-Apple-Red@reddit
That's absolutely true. But you have to go further and listen to what it actually means.
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but we are not planning to crucify anyone because of their religion, creed or sexuality.
It means we do not agree to what Jews are doing, that includes current genocide in Gaza. We are not going to promote homosexualities or overrepresent them because they feel opressed when they are not. We are definitely one hundred percent against killing children in abortion. We do not want to burden society with unnecessary taxes and we will look closely at EU because we don't want to lose our sovereignty and we were part of one union already, which didn't end up great.
I bet you'll stay on your entry-level of understanding of the 5 because that allows you to hate us easier. Would you disagree?
showerbridge@reddit
This is so crazy
Apart-Apple-Red@reddit
So far you implied that not being gay makes you dislike minorities more and now you say that not planning to crucify anyone is crazy?
I'm not entirely sure you are aware what you are saying.
showerbridge@reddit
Does it say we don't like gay people?? It says WE STAND AGAINST... Literally other word for oppose.
Your party oppose Jews... Now what does that mean? It's up to interpretation, vague on purpose. So people who are less racist and Nazis can hold hands together and have different interpretations of it.
What does it mean to oppose homosexuality? What do you do when you oppose something as a political party?
Apart-Apple-Red@reddit
So basically you admit that your wish for him to like more other minorities because of his sexual preferences is baseless and therefore dishonest?
Oh well, I wasn't expecting much anyway.
To the rest, my comment was specific enough as my point was exactly, that you ought to go beyond the headlines of the 5 things mentioned.
Only then you will know what dies it means and you will not have to ask those questions you did.
But for people like you it is easier to hate what you don't know and what you don't understand. That's why you are so stubbornly ignorant I guess.
showerbridge@reddit
What? I say that intersex people are minorities, and now he knows what pressure they feel from the polish society, and he can expand his views that all minorites feel this pressure, and he should support all minorities and not just intersex people.
It is litterally a political party who is specialised in how to use words to spark feelings... the wording means something...
Also it is so crazy... you sound like a liberal but is protecting a far right party lol...
This is so bizar... your party is build on hating minorities.... You litteraly had an anti migrant protest where people
Apart-Apple-Red@reddit
I agree with one thing with you - the words have meanings.
And yet you can't understand that you contradict yourself with your words and you expose your own hypocrisy.
You do understand the power of short slogans, and yet you don't understand that you are unable to go beyond them only because it is easier for your hatred and bias this way. It is fascinating in a way, I admit.
You did rightly notice that my party had an anti immigration protest and yet you weren't able to comprehend what immigration was it about and on what grounds.
It is astonishing that you have the same voting rights as me (assuming the same jurisdiction, of course).
Honey, being against migration pact or against illegal immigration or even against mass immigration, isn't equal to being against immigrants. You have to stop making such naive assumptions because it hurts your understanding and political awareness.
jc_al@reddit
Mate, the effort of brainwashing and gaslighting in all your comments and replies is astonishing, not sure if you're trying to convince us or yourself that your party isn't racist, homophobic, xenophobic and so on, but you do you and hopefully you (party) never amount to anything more than the irrelevant portion who will eventually fade out from human values..
DrieverFlows@reddit
I'm not entirely sure you get the point of your own party. Your whole interaction reads like a delusional schizo. Stay out of politics for the sake of the rest
Apart-Apple-Red@reddit
I'm sure I understand the point of politics as a whole much better than you and I was a politician for many years. And yes, my country is better because of my activities.
Several_Leader_7140@reddit
If it was for your party the Nazi would still be in charge
Apart-Apple-Red@reddit
I do not support Netanyahu and I don't support the genocide Israel is currently conducting.
Several_Leader_7140@reddit
So why then hate all Jews
SaulsAll@reddit
Jews are not doing anything. A nation's government is committing genocide, and you could argue the nation itself is a detrimental colonization.
But it is blatantly wrong and VERY anti-Semitic to think or say that "Jews are doing it."
cultish_alibi@reddit
Those are basically the same opinions the Nazis had, and the Nazis murdered millions of people. Do you understand why people might not trust you, or is it still too hard for you?
catchcatchhorrortaxi@reddit
You’re not even original with this weak sauce pseud nonsense. When /pol/ would cringe at your attempts to whitewash your shittiness, you need to take a look in the mirror.
ary31415@reddit
That's not how logic works
Reserenssi@reddit
Wait until you find out about most of humanity.
showerbridge@reddit
In the history of humankind we have moved towards a more democratic and more just systems and I think we still will... Maybe there are some bump in the roads and maybe some systems last longer than they should but the clock is ticking
Reserenssi@reddit
The clock is ticking both ways.
Zenokh@reddit
What kind of clock you got ??? Mine only goes forward with time ??? Thats how clocks are supposed to work ???
carlitos_moreno@reddit
My clock makes circles
nigl_@reddit
Smartass.
Speed231@reddit
Most people are like that, it always makes me sad. My mom was always against euthanazia because of religion and I always discussed this with her, that it should be allowed in some cases but she was always against it. Until my schizophrenic uncle got completely paralyzed, couldn't even breath without machines because of a tumour in his brain that never got caught. He suffered a lot until eventually he passed on from a virus he got at the hospital. From that point on she started to agree with me.
I wish everyone could feel empathy without having to go through stuff like this is their personal life first.
The-red-Dane@reddit
I mean, better he's not against it because it affects him, than him being against it, right?
showerbridge@reddit
Sure, one less bigot is always a good thing... And this is how most people are, very individualist where it is only a problem when it affects them.. Solidarity is only in their own backyard
SongFeisty8759@reddit
Maybe he will evaluate his life and choses another path politically ? I'm a foolish optimistic, I know...
genasugelan@reddit
Completely different topics, but ok.
showerbridge@reddit
It is about solidarity for everyone and not only for white trans people, white gay/bi/lesbian/queer... It is solidarity for all people no matter where you are from.
genasugelan@reddit
"Against immigrants" can be a far-right opinion of hating any immigrants, but it can also be a moderate position when you are against illegal immigration.
Saying "against immigrants" is incredibly reductive and broad.
showerbridge@reddit
There are no illegal migrants, people are not illegal.
What do you mean by illegal migrants?
genasugelan@reddit
People who enter a country unlawfully are illegal immigrants. Get out of here with this far-left narrative.
SirLadthe1st@reddit
Reminds me about one of assistant's to Geert Wilders (?). He started reading Quran to use it against Muslims, ended up announcing he is converting to Islam and leaving the party.
And im pretty sure there was a Hungarian neo nazi who discovered he had Jewish ancestry and moved to Israel lmao.
Special-Remove-3294@reddit
There is a Hungarian neo nazi who moved to Israel yes.
There is also a Hungarian anti LGBT politican who was caught fleeing a gay orgy
showerbridge@reddit
To be fair neo Nazis want what Israel have, a ethno supremacist state
Morpherman@reddit
I hate myself for this, but you mean ladder, latter means secondary or near the ending, as opposed to former.
Example: Bill was asked if he wanted the tall ladder or short ladder, he replied "I'll take the latter ladder."
Bill is given the short ladder.
showerbridge@reddit
Fuck me, are you my English teacher that made me hate myself? There were more red words than black in my assignments after i got it from her
meister2983@reddit
Question to understand this. Who do conservatives think intersex people are supposed to be in relationships with? To me, this reads like a woman in relationship as a man = traditional = therefore who cares?
Bauser99@reddit
Your question is based on a false assumption. In reality: conservatives think intersex people should be dead.
SleepyTonia@reddit
Or they just straight up deny their existence.
Oriin690@reddit
Those are the same thing, the best way to deny someone’s existence is to kill them
blown-transmission@reddit
Intersex women can be infertile, have ambiguous genitalia, or have nonfemale sexual characteristics. This is why they often do not fit into trad wife stereotype.
And you know, right wingers obsess over genitalia and fertility.
They also do not really want to think intersex people exists. Even if they exist, they must be "corrected".
Vassago81@reddit
All those internet stupidity are funny here in Quebec, where the leading Right Wing leader is a very openly gay man, treated like Hitler by the commies media because he want less taxes.
Reagalan@reddit
Yeah, sure, that's the reason.
Vassago81@reddit
What the fuck do you know about Eric Duhaime then, dear homophobic regarded Redditor?
imunfair@reddit
Probably depends on what the person looks like since intersex encompasses a huge range. In this case "intersex" seems to be functionally indistinguishable from trans - raised as a boy, looks mtf, talks about their genitals being male which is likely why they were raised as a boy. If Michalina can get pregnant that would likely change the minds of some people but I'd put the odds on that not being possible.
PMmePowerRangerMemes@reddit
Don’t try to find the logic. There is none. Anti-queer conservatism is just babies politicizing their ick.
PreviousCurrentThing@reddit
The base logic is evolutionary. If your child is non-hetero and allowed to pursue their desires, you're probably not getting grandchildren from them.
In hunter-gatherer and agrarian cultures, those groups which shunned homosexuality out-competed groups which did not. We descend from the winners of that competition.
In an industrial/technological society like we have today, where more than half of children do live past the age of five and high fertility rates are less crucial, shunning homosexuality confers less of an advantage, and most societies soften or eliminate the taboo as they develop.
Homophobia can be seen as vestigial—a biological and cultural adaptation that was once useful yet less so now—but it's ignorant to pretend it has no logic.
Reagalan@reddit
Counterhypothesis:
The birth-order effect.
Being born later results in a greater chance at having the gay.
All sexual organisms fuck like mad when food is abundant and predators irrelevant (see white-tailed deer).
When the food is not abundant, starvation happens. Starvation is bad, people die.
A population that booms-and-busts like this is subject to vulnerable low-pop periods and possible genetic bottlenecks (classic Lotka-Volterra effect but with the "predator" being food insecurity.)
How to solve that? Make some of the kids not have kids.
This dampens out the growth rate during periods of abundance, and the resulting lower number of mouths means less strain on existing food supplies during periods of scarcity.
Thus, homosexuality is an evolved inherent soft population control measure that stabilizes the species' numbers.
SapphicProse@reddit
This is just baseless speculating and pretending its fact
RegalBeagleKegels@reddit
You haven't read all the latest groundbreaking works in evolutionary anthropology that PreviousCurrentThing has authored?? Well that's on you!
Inprobamur@reddit
This seems overly reductionist, there were ancient cultures where homosexuality was a taboo and others where it was widespread.
PMmePowerRangerMemes@reddit
Sounds like pseudoscience.
jmsy1@reddit
do conservatives even think these people have rights? let alone the right to a relationship?
PreviousCurrentThing@reddit
I don't think most average conservatives really care except maybe in the sports context. The far right care because they make a big deal about everything.
I could read the resignation as just wanting to protect his partner from the latter.
Inprobamur@reddit
The sports context is also massively over emphasized by the media considering how few trans athletes there even are (and seems more like a job for the individual sports leagues).
PreviousCurrentThing@reddit
Agreed, that's why I said maybe.
Intersex issues are much more invisible, and there hasn't been anything like the push for trans visibility. Most conservatives never think about intersex, and I wouldn't be surprised if close to half couldn't even tell you what it means. (US context, not sure how it is elsewhere)
Bolf-Ramshield@reddit
They care because the far right in almost every country avoid talking about interdex people like the pmague because their sole existence proves that gender is not binary and thus, harassing trans people is not right.
pm_me_BMW_M3_GTR_pls@reddit
?????
Poland is NEVER beating the allegations y'all. The pipeline is real
^(Poland is NEVER beating the allegations y'all. The pipeline is real fuck automod also)
OGM2@reddit
fuck automod