To end the 30/31/28-day confusion with months, use only the absolute day.
Posted by urbanviking318@reddit | CrazyIdeas | View on Reddit | 78 comments
January 1 is day 1, December 31 is day 365 (or occasionally 356). Weeks can be counted this way too, for determining holidays that fall on an arbitrary date each year because it's "this day of this week of this month," it now becomes "the Monday of week N."
PrimaryThis9900@reddit
I only just realized that there are 52 weeks in a year and 26 letters in the alphabet, so in your scenario the weeks be lettered a-z twice, so it could be broken up into each half and make it easier.
The_Troyminator@reddit
Just have the weeks labeled a through z and A through Z.
FishDawgX@reddit
Alpha through Zeta for the second set.
havron@reddit
Unfortunately, the Greek alphabet only has 24 letters. Also, it ends with Omega, not Zeta, which is the sixth letter.
FishDawgX@reddit
Dang, then I propose the last 2 letters should be Я and ñ.
havron@reddit
Sure, why not.
BoysLinuses@reddit
Americans refuse to learn the metric system, yet you think we are going to learn the entire Greek alphabet?
axilidade@reddit
the nato phonetic alphabet would at least be easier to remember
BoysLinuses@reddit
M as in Mancy.
40hzHERO@reddit
Lol the guys at my work are obsessed with the NATO phonetic (we’re in a kitchen), so I’ll throw that one out when they start that shit up. Guess nobody’s seen the show, cause it’s goes down just like that scene… “WHAT DO YOU MEAN M AS IN MANCY?!? THAT MAKES NO SENSE!”
FishDawgX@reddit
You underestimate the influence of fraternities/sororities.
beardiac@reddit
So we could abandon months in favor of fortnights.
Training-Cucumber467@reddit
Let's meet at 18 hundred hours on the second Foxtrot Friday.
Ulfbass@reddit
The state of confusion when the first November Friday is in April and the second is in October
aardvarkarmour@reddit
This made me spit my coffee out 🤣
NativeMasshole@reddit
Whiskey Wednesday is a very dangerous day!
nalhedh@reddit
I'm sorry, I can't make it - I fly out that day for a conference on Foxtrot Saturday - but I'll be back on Gregarious Monday!
splotchee@reddit
Not all alphabets have 26 letters ...
ptolani@reddit
52 weeks is only 364 days though. What's the extra 1-2 days? Does the next year start on A1 again, even thouh it's a different day?
Jolly-Newt9192@reddit
I think they meant "week N" as in "week (insert number here)", but what you said is also a good idea.
tortoiseshell_87@reddit
Hey!
What are you doing this Week N ??
DoubleDareFan@reddit
Instead of weeks, we should have fortnites! 26 fortnites in a year. Fortnite A though fortnite Z. Come up with new names for the days.
onko342@reddit
It’s fortnight, not Fortnite. Fortnite is the game.
Nixinova@reddit
or dates can just end up looking like YouTube urls
britishmetric144@reddit
The Federal Aviation Administration already does this, in one sense.
For publication dates, aeronautical charts use the format YYDDD, where YY is the year and DDD is the number of days which have passed since the start of the year.
dm80x86@reddit
https://xkcd.com/927/
There are now 15 standards.
havron@reddit
I see you xkcd 927, and raise you:
https://xkcd.com/1061/
dm80x86@reddit
There are now 16 standards.
Jimxor@reddit
I think you're describing the ordinal date. Hewlett Packard minicomputers used to use it internally to make date calculations easier but I think they called it the Julian date back then.
Yes, "Julian date" has been deprecated. It's now called "ordinal date."
Right_Two_5737@reddit
I didn't know it had a new name! "Julian date" was a dumb name because the actual Julian calendar doesn't work that way.
xuanhu@reddit
Never seen any year with 356 days
Agitated-Ad2563@reddit
There's an even better idea.
Let's have 13 months per year. Each month is exactly 4 weeks, and exactly 28 days. 1st of each month is always Sunday, 2nd is always Monday, and so on, no variation here too. 13*28 = 364, so each year we'll have one (or two for leap years) day for the new year. That day is not a member of any month or week, it's just the new year day.
Ninja_Wrangler@reddit
As a computer person I would highly recommend we simply stop fucking with the calendar.
The obvious choice for date and time is clearly number of seconds since Jan 1, 1970
Agitated-Ad2563@reddit
Totally agree. We should correct for leap seconds though.
havron@reddit
I would actually argue that we should not. Leap seconds cause a lot of little hassles across various industries, and what do we really gain from it? It will take ages for the discrepancies to add up to anything noticeable, so why don't we just not do it all the time and wait until we've a whole leap minute to do?
Agitated-Ad2563@reddit
But the timing should be accurate, shouldn't it?
Also, obviously the Jan 1 1970 moment should be based on the local astronomical time.
havron@reddit
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.
It's all made up, really, isn't it? Sure, the day and year lengths do have direct meaningful correlations to astronomical phenomena, so they should be kept more or less synced. But the moment where we decide a day begins is arbitrary: in many cultures it used to be dawn, but nowadays we use midnight, which itself is an even more arbitrary time. So, what's a few seconds going to matter to anyone?
I agree that we should keep our calendar and clocks synced to the machinations of the solar system. My argument is simply that the little details are completely unnoticeable, especially since we have already divorced our clocks from being precisely tied to the sun at all (how often is dawn at 6:00 am?). So who are these fiddly leap seconds really benefiting? I would argue that it would be a lot less hassle to simply save up these tiny aberrations until they sum to a larger, yet still not terribly noticeable, discrepancy, like a full minute or even an entire hour. Adjustments of that size would be extremely rare, and in the hour case would probably not even touch most people within their lifetimes. I just think that our technology has gotten so precise at this point that it feels like we're making these leap second adjustments more or less just because we can. But who does it even help?
Like I said, the majority of us already deal with our clocks being off by whole hours for much of the year, and even for those of us not practicing DST, time zones inherently place many of us up to a full hour or more out of sync with the sun year-round. A great many people are used to their clocks being around an hour off, all the time. So why not just do the occasional, super rare leap hour instead of all these silly leap second shifts?
But yes, you're right, this is r/crazyideas. Perhaps my idea here isn't crazy enough.
ZealousidealPound460@reddit
EXCELlent idea.
Pelzklops@reddit
This idea is always proposed and they always forget that most of the people really don't want to have their birthday on a Monday or Wednesday for the rest of their life
Agitated-Ad2563@reddit
Well, most people won't have their birthday on a Monday or Wednesday according to this calendar.
Tightestbutth0le@reddit
Even better idea is that the new year day should still be a day of the week, otherwise your birthday could always fall in a Tuesday or something. It’s better to keep the day of the week rotation from year to year.
Agitated-Ad2563@reddit
Nah. Once a Tuesday man, always a Tuesday man. Just know your place and envy those lucky Sunday men.
ground__contro1@reddit
Are they lucky or do they never actually get a “day off” since it’s already a weekend
CornucopiaDM1@reddit
Sounds like Tolkien's Hobbit calendar.
samsunyte@reddit
Can’t wait for the inevitable astrological categories that will spawn from this
RepairBudget@reddit
But we only want the day of the week to change once per year, so New Year day counts as a weekday, but for leap years, the extra day doesn't count and is used for the Purge.
Tightestbutth0le@reddit
Exactly
thunder_y@reddit
You lost me at the New Year’s Day. That’s gonna be a nightmare for all it professionals
dinution@reddit
Doesn't sound very crazy
Burning_Toast998@reddit
I'd rather have 12 months, 28 days each, and "the rest" as a worldwide end-of-the-year holiday. That gives about 4 weeks for Christmas/similar holidays, and New Year's celebration.
Agitated-Ad2563@reddit
Or maybe even just 10 months of 28 days each and the rest of the year as the new year holiday.
Burning_Toast998@reddit
fuck it, let's just work one day every year, and the rest is a holiday.
sexwiththebabysitter@reddit
28x13=364. Missing a day.
BearAndDeerIsBeer@reddit
I’ve never liked this idea for the sake of that every year you’re guaranteed something is going to happen on the same day. Imagine someone is born on a Monday, and someone on a Saturday. One is going to have an objectively better time on their birthday every year, and the other will always be going back to work.
ChaseballBat@reddit
Great my birthday is a Monday for every single year for the rest of my life...
747ER@reddit
You had me until the “New Years’ Day” part. Are people supposed to buy calendars with this day omitted, or just a blank page with one day at the end of it? If you’re making a reservation or booking a flight, how does the booking system let you book a date with no month? Every drop-down box ever created will be difficult to use. Surely it’d be easier to just tack NYD onto the end of the last month.
Aggravating_Branch86@reddit
What’s the consensus on people whose birthdays fall on days that would no longer exist? Would their legal birthday still be January 31 or would it be retroactively converted to February 3?
Agitated-Ad2563@reddit
Yes.
kiwipixi42@reddit
has always been the calendar I wanted
fluffynuckels@reddit
Smarch
RepairBudget@reddit
Lousy Smarch weather
Knowbeard@reddit
Heard the weathers lousy that time of year
Agitated-Ad2563@reddit
Added points for 13th always being a Friday.
skiptracer8@reddit
Always surprised that people are confused by how many days are in each month when it's something you deal with like, constantly throughout your lifetime. To me it's like not remembering how to tie your shoes.
ack1308@reddit
I will on occasion mumble, "Thirty days hath September ..." to remind myself.
Zebraphile@reddit
Months are useful because of the passing of the seasons. January is always going to be different to July in ways that are predictable.
The more interesting calendar question is what you do when people are living on Mars. Obviously you can create a local Mars calendar based on the Martian day and year, but would a common calendar for the solar system also make sense? How would you construct that?
Any_Kaleidoscope8717@reddit
Fuck it! Let's take it further: get rid of years. January 1 is day 1, December 31 is day 365, January 10th of the following year is day 375, June 9th 10,000 years from now is day (someone else do the math, I'm not that committed to the bit).
Great idea OP, I love it!
martifero@reddit
you say it and get upvoted, I say it and I get downvoted into oblivion and my post gets removed https://np.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/1mfznxn/dates_dont_need_months_year_and_day_of_the_year
tortoiseshell_87@reddit
On Planet Earth
December 31 is Never Day 356.
So, this post is not ending confusion. Its causing confusion.
Long Live Months.
irlcatspankz@reddit
Thirty days have September, April, June and November
djfdhigkgfIaruflg@reddit
Or. Use a sane representation, like the rest of the world does
Morall_tach@reddit
Not a great start that you miscounted your leap day by 10.
Piggybear87@reddit
And in the wrong direction.
FishDawgX@reddit
I’m starting to think he’s not the best person for the job of making new calendars.
CassetteTapeCryptid@reddit
Julian Calender
derping1234@reddit
We already use week numbers
shotsallover@reddit
Cool. And the absolute day system breaks in leap years, which we'll still need in some form or another.
caleblbaker@reddit
I have an even crazier reworking of dates and times that I worked out a while back:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mHaeEYCgfKYa5_aeO7pNc9MvVhKaeq7Jk-j0zoJGdRY/edit?usp=drivesdk