I was at least 1 Saturday detention in before I found out about this gem (class of '96). It still lives up. Is the dialog stale? A bit. Do these cliques still exist in school and at workplaces? you bet. Is Ally Sheedy underrated? you be the judge ;)
He begins by saying Vernon sees them in simple terms, then explains what THEY have learned, "that they're ALL a basket case, princess, etc.". Yet the visuals match up to the obvious suspects.
Is he saying they're all many things at once, or that, indeed they are as Vernon sees them?
I agree that some of the specifics did: my kids don’t stand for harassment and are all in on expression, to your stated points about Bender and Allison.
But they’ve also gone through all the same shared feelings (the point of the movie, I’ve always thought) of isolation, self doubt and fear. All the same archetypes seem to exist, though in slightly different forms.
So yes, shitty behavior is shitty behavior. Were it to be written today (if it could be) I could see the bender harassment being more directed at Brian as a classic (and still a problem) bullying (expanding beyond the duct tape story) and Allison’s transformation being her encouraged to whatever her true expression might be.
In both cases it would be the same core idea, but instead of the Claire/Bender romance maybe we get the bender/Brian mutual appreciation and Allison goes the other way, leaning more into goth, but finds her voice and goes out for the drama club (natch). Her and Andrew getting together was always gratuitous and could be dropped entirely.
Completely agree. And don't get me wrong, I'll always love this movie and watch it whenever I see it on the movie channel. It's still iconic in so many ways.
I love most John Hughes movies (except maybe 16 Candles for similar reasons, that one also aged very badly).
John Bender sexually harassed Claire (and she ended up falling for him somehow?).
The dreadful message that Allison needed a makeover to somehow fit in. Even Ally Sheedy was very uncomfortable with that.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/177JKmVZoW/
Yes. But I would argue some of that stuff actually happened. I remember when the film came out it was the first film that actually felt like my limited lived experience.
Molly Ringwald was on a podcast with Rob Lowe and was saying how when her daughter saw the movie she was upset that her mom participated in such a film.
An excellent movie that spoke to me on many levels.
The ending narration was perfect as it described everyone in life. It was a movie about all the different characters in school, who all had their own perceptions of themselves and everyone else when in reality everyone was the same.
Don't see many movies like this these days. These days everyone seems to like labels and they'll stick it on a character without any focus whatsoever on the why.
This movie makes me sad—though it’s really more nostalgia mixed with the oppressive sense of time’s relentless march. None of those actors have careers anymore, yet back then they were all big names. It’s hard not to think about how depressing it’ll be when the news starts coming that some of them have passed. And John Hughes] was a singular talent, and he’s already been gone a long while now.
I watched that movie every day after school. There’s a line missing. He says, “What we did was wrong” but we think you’re crazy to make us write an essay. Etc.
I've watched around once a decade, each time with different emotions. I caught it on HBO this weekend and had a cry since my youngest just started Senior year. Where has the time gone???
my friends and i, right around the same age as the characters, all hated this movie, thinking it the dumbest depiction of high school detention ever fostered. we all had done detention and we all did the same thing, the only thing your could do there, nod off or scribble. everything in that movie was contrived and antithetical to what actual high school kids wanted, to be left alone.
also, i bristle when people say that film 'defined a generation.' we NEVER listened to simple minds, they friggin' sucked. we listened to led zeppelin, the rolling stones, the beatles, pink floyd, the police, and it wasn't until years later that i realized why movies never had soundtracks that actually reflected what music we listened to.
Still one of my favourite movies of all time, but...
Beyond that, John Hughes movies pretty much raised our generation...
Molly Ringwald, Anthony Micheal Hall, Judd Nelson and Emilio Estevez to some degree...
Ethan Hawke, River Phoenix, a before Star Trek Will Whaton, Corey Feldman and those fantastic child actors of the day that Hollywood chewed up, used up, abused and spit out...
Also, just for another mindfuck, did you know that LOTRS (Sam) Sean Astin played Mikey in The Goonies?
My favorite movie of all time! (Reddit name checks out!) It might not holdup perfectly, but it holds up pretty well 40 years later. This post comes at the perfect time given the theatrical re-release next week.
The irony is that they ostensibly protested writing an essay on who they think they are, but actually wrote a decent essay about who they think they are.
TBC is a timeless classic. it's a perfect snapshot of high school life that still feels incredibly real and relatable, even all these years later. It's crazy how well it holds up.
Just retired, but had about 5 months of vacation time in a pretty large organization. I set my avatar in Outlook to be John Bender's fist pump about a week before finishing up. No doubt that hundreds, if not thousands saw that before my account was auto-deleted.
It was exactly what we all knew high school to be back then. All the different clicks and all the usual characters. I think about this movie every time I hear that song.
Leather_Hope6109@reddit
Name of the movie?
Fragrant_Ordinary905@reddit
I was at least 1 Saturday detention in before I found out about this gem (class of '96). It still lives up. Is the dialog stale? A bit. Do these cliques still exist in school and at workplaces? you bet. Is Ally Sheedy underrated? you be the judge ;)
corpus-luteum@reddit
I'm not sure I get it.
He begins by saying Vernon sees them in simple terms, then explains what THEY have learned, "that they're ALL a basket case, princess, etc.". Yet the visuals match up to the obvious suspects.
Is he saying they're all many things at once, or that, indeed they are as Vernon sees them?
spider3407@reddit
That scene where he puts her hand up her leg is sexual harassment. It shocked me how bad some of these 80s movies were, and I didn't realize it.
1blueShoe@reddit
These were all way older than me when I watched this movie and now they look so young… and I feel ancient 🤷🏻♀️🤣
fit2burn1@reddit
Now it would be the 4 pm dinner club with coupons
Testy_Coyote_@reddit
Next week this will be rereleased in movie theaters for the 40th anniversary. I'm going and bringing my adult daughter.
MirSydney@reddit
Do let us know what she thinks. We all loved this movie but it aged so, so poorly.
everydave42@reddit
I agree that some of the specifics did: my kids don’t stand for harassment and are all in on expression, to your stated points about Bender and Allison.
But they’ve also gone through all the same shared feelings (the point of the movie, I’ve always thought) of isolation, self doubt and fear. All the same archetypes seem to exist, though in slightly different forms.
So yes, shitty behavior is shitty behavior. Were it to be written today (if it could be) I could see the bender harassment being more directed at Brian as a classic (and still a problem) bullying (expanding beyond the duct tape story) and Allison’s transformation being her encouraged to whatever her true expression might be.
In both cases it would be the same core idea, but instead of the Claire/Bender romance maybe we get the bender/Brian mutual appreciation and Allison goes the other way, leaning more into goth, but finds her voice and goes out for the drama club (natch). Her and Andrew getting together was always gratuitous and could be dropped entirely.
Maybe I need more (or less) coffee this morning…
MirSydney@reddit
Completely agree. And don't get me wrong, I'll always love this movie and watch it whenever I see it on the movie channel. It's still iconic in so many ways.
I love most John Hughes movies (except maybe 16 Candles for similar reasons, that one also aged very badly).
Okaydokie_919@reddit
I've heard this. What way did it age poorly—I haven't watched it in forward because the sense of nostoaliga is just too ovewhelming.
MirSydney@reddit
John Bender sexually harassed Claire (and she ended up falling for him somehow?).
The dreadful message that Allison needed a makeover to somehow fit in. Even Ally Sheedy was very uncomfortable with that. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/177JKmVZoW/
no_talent_ass_clown@reddit
Yes. But I would argue some of that stuff actually happened. I remember when the film came out it was the first film that actually felt like my limited lived experience.
Okaydokie_919@reddit
Yea, I forgot about that part.
Olderbutnotdead619@reddit
I don't think it aged poorly at all
_namaste_kitten_@reddit
I'm so glad you brought this up! I used to get reminders from Fandango- but not anymore.
Luckily, they are playing it for 4 days in my area, so we just made a date for after work next Tuesday!
mayura376@reddit
Wow yes! I’ll see that on the big screen.
Giving_Dad_Advice@reddit
Thank you for bringing this to my attention!
StangRunner45@reddit
My favorite John Hughes film.
My favorite teen film from that era is Risky Business.
Miles: “Joel, every now and again, say what the f*ck.”
Danktizzle@reddit
Do we have another “unspooled” fan in here?
Effective_Device_185@reddit
16 and watched this at the Rideau Centre Theatre in Ottawa, Canada.
MargnWalkr@reddit
The movie that taught us being a dick is how you get the hot popular girl.
no_talent_ass_clown@reddit
I think it taught me that it's fun to know the "losers".
Glass-Marionberry321@reddit
Molly Ringwald was on a podcast with Rob Lowe and was saying how when her daughter saw the movie she was upset that her mom participated in such a film.
The_Great_19@reddit
I was in 8th grade when this came out and I adored it heart and soul.
Mountain-Art6254@reddit
My family knows Judd Nelson’s family. That’s it. That’s the whole story. I’ll try to do better next time. Viva Portland, Maine!!
Azerafael@reddit
An excellent movie that spoke to me on many levels.
The ending narration was perfect as it described everyone in life. It was a movie about all the different characters in school, who all had their own perceptions of themselves and everyone else when in reality everyone was the same.
Don't see many movies like this these days. These days everyone seems to like labels and they'll stick it on a character without any focus whatsoever on the why.
TroyMatthewJ@reddit
legendary
AdelaideMidnightDad@reddit
Timeless.
gumbysrath@reddit
The Easter egg at the beginning of Carl in the trophy case is such a slow burn when you realize he’s the janitor.
Okaydokie_919@reddit
I was today years old when I first learned this information.
Okaydokie_919@reddit
This movie makes me sad—though it’s really more nostalgia mixed with the oppressive sense of time’s relentless march. None of those actors have careers anymore, yet back then they were all big names. It’s hard not to think about how depressing it’ll be when the news starts coming that some of them have passed. And John Hughes] was a singular talent, and he’s already been gone a long while now.
NellieBean@reddit
If you are in Chicago- not the same movie - 16 candles is being shown at Retro on Roscoe Friday
Olderbutnotdead619@reddit
Still love it!!
Ratxat@reddit
🤘
wtfw7f@reddit
I watched that movie every day after school. There’s a line missing. He says, “What we did was wrong” but we think you’re crazy to make us write an essay. Etc.
Blkgurlsmuse@reddit
Every time I see that I fall in love with John/Judd all over again.
mayura376@reddit
He grew up in my hometown Portland Maine. Lived a few houses down from one of my friends.
elliotsilvestri@reddit
Hasn't been 40 years. I'm still 17.
...or not.
IntrovertInHiding@reddit
Cold chills when I see this
discussatron@reddit
I'm from the class of '85 and that movie rang so hollow with me.
The Simple Minds song fuckin' killed, though.
Mysterious_Row_@reddit
Innovictos@reddit
The narration plus the song is like a nostalgia dagger to the heart.
BlueProcess@reddit
Time flows like a river, and we are all caught in the current
SaltyBlackBroad@reddit
Hey, hey, hey, hey!
churros4burros@reddit
I've watched around once a decade, each time with different emotions. I caught it on HBO this weekend and had a cry since my youngest just started Senior year. Where has the time gone???
Broken_Wing7@reddit
One of my favorite movies!
ixnine@reddit
Younger generations will never understand how important this movie is to us, like so many others during the ‘80s
Critical_Seat_1907@reddit
Bender walking triumphantly across the field in the sunset is peak 80's.
Feline-Sloth@reddit
I am still salty how they did the dirty on Allison
Unconscience@reddit
my friends and i, right around the same age as the characters, all hated this movie, thinking it the dumbest depiction of high school detention ever fostered. we all had done detention and we all did the same thing, the only thing your could do there, nod off or scribble. everything in that movie was contrived and antithetical to what actual high school kids wanted, to be left alone.
also, i bristle when people say that film 'defined a generation.' we NEVER listened to simple minds, they friggin' sucked. we listened to led zeppelin, the rolling stones, the beatles, pink floyd, the police, and it wasn't until years later that i realized why movies never had soundtracks that actually reflected what music we listened to.
Calaron85814@reddit
Hey! You’re not urinating in here man!
Good_With_Tools@reddit
This felt like it was telling our story. Ferris Bueller was aspirational.
Mk1Racer25@reddit
My favorite of the John Hughes movies.
funwithtentacles@reddit
Still one of my favourite movies of all time, but...
Beyond that, John Hughes movies pretty much raised our generation...
Molly Ringwald, Anthony Micheal Hall, Judd Nelson and Emilio Estevez to some degree...
Ethan Hawke, River Phoenix, a before Star Trek Will Whaton, Corey Feldman and those fantastic child actors of the day that Hollywood chewed up, used up, abused and spit out...
Also, just for another mindfuck, did you know that LOTRS (Sam) Sean Astin played Mikey in The Goonies?
Whatever happened to movies since those days???
Shermer_60062@reddit
My favorite movie of all time! (Reddit name checks out!) It might not holdup perfectly, but it holds up pretty well 40 years later. This post comes at the perfect time given the theatrical re-release next week.
mfigroid@reddit
Does Barry Manilow know you raid his wardrobe?
Shermer_60062@reddit
Give you the answer to that question, Mr. Bender, next Saturday. Mess with the bull, young man, and you’ll get the horns.
aimwitt@reddit
My favorite movie!!!!
HiervoorNatkaa@reddit
Great i related to this movie when i was at highschool myself, good vibrations
Dense-Consequence-70@reddit
The irony is that they ostensibly protested writing an essay on who they think they are, but actually wrote a decent essay about who they think they are.
MaximumJones@reddit
Freepi@reddit
Two months, I got ya. Don’t mess with the bull young man or you’ll get the horns.
Bobby_Globule@reddit
https://i.redd.it/5qewf3xg80nf1.gif
WKRPinCanada@reddit
Knew the song but never watched the movie till well into the 90s
For sure a must watch wherever I see it on the menu
Often ended my online radio show with this song too
🎶 Don't you...forget about me 🎶
https://i.redd.it/bazeisbaxzmf1.gif
funsized43@reddit
Claire's suede skirt still is to die for.
70sLiteRock@reddit
TBC is a timeless classic. it's a perfect snapshot of high school life that still feels incredibly real and relatable, even all these years later. It's crazy how well it holds up.
AdAggravating8273@reddit
Just retired, but had about 5 months of vacation time in a pretty large organization. I set my avatar in Outlook to be John Bender's fist pump about a week before finishing up. No doubt that hundreds, if not thousands saw that before my account was auto-deleted.
Missanthope@reddit
🤗💖🥳🙌
Rwhite5440@reddit
It was exactly what we all knew high school to be back then. All the different clicks and all the usual characters. I think about this movie every time I hear that song.
arsebiscuits71@reddit
I don't want to think about the number of times I've watched this film. There were so many good films back then, but this stands above a lot of them