CQB For Dummies | TheaterFire

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FL_Construction_Atty@reddit

He turned the gun sideways. That's a kill shot!

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datfreemandoe@reddit

Terrorists hate this one simple trick

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Driven2b@reddit

I talked to some Canadian soldiers once, and they said that something similar was part if their room clearing technique.

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I mean it actually has entered doctrine internationally for trench clearing. Mag dump blind or grenade around the corner, and aggressively push to the next corner. I feel like the cool operator surgical stuff isn't ment for a peer to peer conflict.

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Driven2b@reddit

From the outside looking in, I am not military let alone an operator. It seems like Russia v. Ukraine has thrown the last two decades of doctrine straight out the window.

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Parasite76@reddit

More like regressed but added modern weapons.

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Lakeshow15@reddit

Drones mainly. I also wouldn’t call this a near peer conflict.

If it were between to similar powers Russia would be getting hit a lot harder at home than they are. This conflict is a defensive conflict of attrition.

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StressfulRiceball@reddit

Kinda badfling they're still failing so hard to take out a nation that's a tiny fraction of their size.

Granted Ukraine is getting fucktons of Western support, but I feel like another non-nuclear nation can just start pushing in and reach Moscow easily with how utterly incompetent they've been lmfao

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Puzzleheaded_Card_71@reddit

They aren’t failing. They know the west is flowing arms so it’s efficient to just bleed out Ukraine until capitulation. Despite western opinions, Russia has no interest in western Ukraine and essentially holds the regions it wants most in the east, so it can afford to just bide its time.

Your belief that a nation can reach Moscow easily due to incompetence has been believe several times before by people far smarter than you. How did that turn out?

Russia is never as strong nor as weak as it appears.

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Sneekibreeki47@reddit

I mean a fucking Wagner colum got to within 150 miles of Moscow, lmfao.

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StressfulRiceball@reddit

Lmfao the amount of copium from your favorite dictatorship getting absolutely fucking clowned on by a SIGNIFICANTLY smaller nation.

Imagine the US of A struggling to conquer New Mexico or even California after... how many years for this "special operation"?

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treeofliberty-1776@reddit

Easily said when it's not your kid. I will send arms all day long before sending my sons to a fight that's isn't mine. There is no reason why a smaller nation is going to put boots on the ground unless they are in danger. And if they are the aggressor, there is no obligation for other NATO nations to jump in. Plus the more nations involved the more likely this turns into WW3.

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StressfulRiceball@reddit

*but I feel like another non-nuclear nation can just start pushing in and reach Moscow easily with how utterly incompetent they've been lmfao*

This does not imply a smaller nation SHOULD do that.

But they'd have my support if they did.

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secondsbest@reddit

The two decades required eyes on target to reduce civilian casualties among an insurgency. These guys aren't operating under those constraints.

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FL_Construction_Atty@reddit

Well, to be fair lots of what we have practiced for the last two decades was COIN. It's still for the most part good doctrine, just not for this type of conflict.

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iNapkin66@reddit

Yeah, the operator stuff was really developed for grabbing or killing a specific person, or for rooting insurgents out of an area with civilians. It was adopted for law enforcement as well, replacing the "wait them out" or "randomly chase a bad guy into a building" techniques.

That situation can definitely still happen in a peer or near peer conflict. But generally the civilians are fleeing the front line, so it should happen less often.

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alltheblues@reddit

The cool operator flowing into a room with precise shooting stuff is for target capture/hostage stuff. Everything else is ideally dropped ordnance, or grenades and accuracy by volume.

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YuenglingsDingaling@reddit

I read Russian accounts from Stalingrad. They weren't stacking up to breach rooms. Huck grenades and spray machine guns.

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M1CAustin@reddit

Grandpops said the same thing about his time in Berlin. 1-2 grenades in each room and shooting through floors and walls. Going in before doing anything short of that was suicide he said.

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iratethisa@reddit

That’s how the us did it in fallujah. I’m pretty sure spec ops and swat are the only ones that ever do the Hollywood style stacking

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YuenglingsDingaling@reddit

Exactly, it's dangerous and hard. If you don't have a civilian population to worry about and you have no need for stealth, you can just blast away.

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Dranosh@reddit

Shut, I didn’t know I was doing some operator business back in the day on planetside 2

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That-Beagle@reddit

God I used to have so much fun in PS2 back in the day…

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2Drogdar2Furious@reddit

Prefire for the win baby. Miss my T1 Cycler...

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jacktheshaft@reddit

I hear that's the strategy in Ukraine. No need to cqb if everyone in the room is an enemy combatant.

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ExplorerEnjoyer@reddit

Now they lob anti tank mines into the building

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HaddyBlackwater@reddit

No red to cqb if everyone in the room is ~~an enemy combatant~~ dead.

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Significant-Fish8075@reddit

Sir that was the room with the hostages

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Knot_a_porn_acct@reddit

I’ll dumb it down even more. Twist, pull, and underhand throw. Cover your ears.

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BenchmadeFan420@reddit

That's a spicy strategy when the walls are sheetrock.

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bHarv44@reddit

In his defense, he did state: Cover your ears.

Everyone knows if you cover your ears the direct passages to your brain can’t get hit with debris/shrapnel.

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38CFRM21@reddit

GBRS in shambles

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Technically_Tactical@reddit

Underrated comment.

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dragon_sack@reddit

So is that wall

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ToddtheRugerKid@reddit

"Hey shitass" (Tosses entire brick of C4 with a grenade fuse punched into it)

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ureathrafranklin1@reddit

Just a guess but I don’t think that would necessarily set off the c4

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ToddtheRugerKid@reddit

I went looking for the video, but it appears to have been deleted from the channel. I have it on pretty good intel that boring a hole into a brick of C4 for a standard fuse from a grenade and shoving said fuse into said hole then securing the fuse with some tape is an effective solution to the problem of having Russians in your basement or wherever.

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ureathrafranklin1@reddit

Standard fuse from nade: probably.

Nade: probably not

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benjamankandy@reddit

Army engineer here. I would say probably, but it’s not a 100% guaranteed. That being said, we’ve usually got enough c4 that if we really wanted to, why not try it

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ChevTecGroup@reddit

Let's ask someone who would know u/wcgs

A real m67's grenade Fuze has a blasting cap that can set off comp B. So maybe it can set off C4

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Judoka229@reddit

This is the "harassment" phase of CQB

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B1893@reddit

The two dudes in the corners need to buy lottery tickets...

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The_Montanistani@reddit

They are probably concussed, at least.

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L-V-4-2-6@reddit

WHAT?

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ReverendReed@reddit

MAWP

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LargeMachines@reddit

You know there are 9 dudes tucked in that left corner…

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BoxofCurveballs@reddit

Thats where the grenades come in

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le-churchx@reddit

Someone didnt want to carry the load

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A_Queer_Owl@reddit

if it works, it ain't stupid.

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themarmalademaniac@reddit

That's also how defend a trench line

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PwNAR3S@reddit

“When in doubt, FRAG OUT!”

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610Mike@reddit

I mean there’s “spray and pray” and then there’s that.

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LiquidC001@reddit

The ol' "spray n pray"

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aggie113@reddit

No prayer required with a room that small!

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AverageJun@reddit

If grenades are available

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SouthernStatement832@reddit

Did that a few times as OpFor for Royal Marines. I was given a SAW and told to cause chaos.

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singlemale4cats@reddit

At that point just chuck a handful of grenades in there

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ChevTecGroup@reddit

So one? How many is a handful Tim?

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singlemale4cats@reddit

Some hands are bigger than others.

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Patient_Ad4878@reddit

Think you missed one.

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SterBen3022@reddit

That’s one way to deal with a hostage situation

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CrimsonxAce@reddit

If someone was there, they sure aren't anymore lol

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demotivater@reddit

Fuck those ricochets. Frag that bitch first.

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Feisty-Tadpole-5127@reddit

Clear

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onebatch_twobatch@reddit

Queer

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8BitRes@reddit

Except the entire left corner on the wall the door is on 😂

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YoimAtlas@reddit

What the camera didn’t show is his team mates shooting into the wall aimed at that corner, checkmate.

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Best_Rent_9112@reddit

Actual cqb 😂

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Flabbergasted_____@reddit

Me with a super safety and 100 round Surefire when I hear a leaf hit the roof.

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EyesSewnShut@reddit

*acorn

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JohnBrownGC@reddit

Officer down!

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wisockamonster@reddit

Me trying to teach my joes lsgo bd6

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GiustiJ777@reddit

HEY !!! No full auto in the biulding !!!!

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rockit_jocky@reddit

I see nothing wrong with this.

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ciniseris@reddit

Can't you just throw a P320 in the room and get the same effect?

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59Diesel66@reddit

Ironically this is also Russian hostage rescue.

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JPLEMARABOUT@reddit

Officer. Room cleared! (Also works with grenades)

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gijoeusa@reddit

Missed that corner tho

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jasont80@reddit

"You killed the hostage."

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FarIllustrator535@reddit

Hes using my nuke town strategy

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Stormdove216@reddit

You only have so much ammo and physical ability to carry it even with a vehicle. Use it sparingly

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PdoffAmericanPatriot@reddit

Ummm ...private?!? The hostages were in that room...

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ByornJaeger@reddit

Not anymore!

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FalloutLover7@reddit

It’s all fun and games until the hostile is on the left side of the door and none of those rounds touched them

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Thansungst22@reddit

You act like they ain't gonna throw a couple bangs and HE in there for good measure

Cause that why my bro said they always do

Two bangs minimum per room couple with spray and pray

The cool guy "slice the pie" shits isn't that relevant when it comes to peer to peer combat with no civilian presence which usually is what most gunfights are

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FalloutLover7@reddit

They could’ve also called an air strike on the house but they didn’t… I’m just going by what we see in the video

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Thansungst22@reddit

This is obviously training going by the target

Who say they don't call airstrike normally lol

Nowadays probably just send in disposable drones with a daisy chain nades though

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DistributionMajor214@reddit

I like your funny words magic man. Well said.

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Cdwollan@reddit

That's a lot of ammo when you could have used one grenade.

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GeorgeSPattonJr@reddit

That’s definitely a way to do it

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joelingo111@reddit

One of my friends did a pre-deployment visit to NTC and was given a mission to enter and clear a building. He shrimply took the SAW gunners, himself one of them, and they marched through the whole building going cyclic, Jin Roh style, until all the OPFOR were dead. Much to the chagrin of the evaluators/cadre

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Yanrogue@reddit

As a POG when we did room clearing they told us just to toss in grenade.

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Cynical_Tripster@reddit

u/savevideo

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SaveVideo@reddit

View link

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VacuumHamster@reddit

Don't forget their party favors!

1-2 grenades, season to taste.

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