US sliding towards 1930s-style autocracy, warns Ray Dalio (Financial Times)
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Billionaire hedge fund boss says other investors are too scared of Trump to speak out
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Vdasun-8412@reddit
I suppose that in the next five years there will be a civil war...
neu8ball@reddit
While civil war isn't totally out of the equation, as an American, I'm looking around and seeing complacency. Off the top of my head:
1/3 of this country didn't even vote AFTER the insurrection.
The Democratic Party are syncopates who participate in political theater and roll over when push comes to shove.
The corporate, propagandized media sane-washes Trump and the GOP.
ICE now has a budget more than most militaries, including several branches of the US Armed Forces.
Millions are imprisoned by the unaffordable cost of living, bankrupted by healthcare (if they are even able to access care), and slaves to their wages.
No Kings is great and all that, but if real conflict actually broke out, protestors would be crushed, massacred, and imprisoned by ICE/MAGA supporters.
No resistance leader is coming to save us. No one is going to miraculously organize a coalition of "blue" states. No dissenting politician, judge, or soldier is going to stop the GOP. The time for action was after Trump's first presidency and attempt to usurp power.
I really, really hate to be doom and gloom, but Project 2025 has won. It's already over.
ambelamba@reddit
Don't forget that there are OTHER countries out there, watching how things are going in the US.
Collapse2043@reddit
I was listening to some predictions for 2050 from a group of remote viewers. They see the US still existing but the federal government has much less power. States and coalitions of states have the power. There are far fewer people worldwide. All coastal areas are under water, even parts of Los Angeles. Far fewer people live in cities. Most people are living in small communities that grow their own food. I can see that being a real possibility.
ZiggedShouldaZagged@reddit
FY24 Military budget... 842 Billion FY26 ICE Budget... 12 billion
Which branch is ICE bigger than?
neu8ball@reddit
So...you just totaled the FY2024 US Military budget (established under Biden's presidency) rather than FY2026, without breaking out by branch per my comment? Then, you looked at JUST the president's request for $11.3B without including any additional, guaranteed funds. Here are some actual figures for you:
With the BBB that just passed in July 2025, ICE now has an approved budget of $75 Billion spread over four years, roughly equating to $18.75B per year. For FY2026, the requested amount was $11.3B, plus a $30B LUMP SUM allocated through Congress' 2026 reconciliation, allocated towards new detention facilities, hiring 10,000 officers, and new deportation initiatives.
We're not even accounting for the $115.6B FY2026 budget request of the Department of Homeland Security, of which we can be certain SOME will go to ICE.
But let's ignore the DHS. I'll even do you a solid and divide that extra lump sum $30B by four, since technically they don't have to spend everything at once. So that leaves us with $11.3B + $7.5B, equaling $18.8B for FY2026.
The US Coast Guard has a FY2026 (requested) budget of $14.5B. This means that yes, ICE has more budget than a branch of the US Military. I will admit that my comment of "several" branches is not necessarily accurate (US Marines are next up at FY2026 $57.2B), so I have amended that for you.
Check out this article from Newsweek - it predicts that the real figure for ICE in 2026 is somewhere around $37.5B, which puts it at #16 in the world.
ZiggedShouldaZagged@reddit
Still on clear on the answer here, GPT. Can you clarify which branch of the military now has a smaller budget than ICE?
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neu8ball@reddit
Nice shade, bro. Curious, why do you think I wrote this with a GPT? I’m literally a professional writer, but all I actually did was google a few quick statistics and provide my math plus links so you could check my numbers and research.
Is this just the default now? Any bulleted argument must OBVIOUSLY be written by ChatGpT, because how could ANYONE possibly write a paragraph without the assistance of AI?
I even acquiesced to your point about my “several” comment and edited accordingly, but you were still butthurt enough to accuse me of using a GPT.
People like you are exactly why the world is collapsing. Get the fuck out of this sub.
Str0nkG0nk@reddit
Yes, alas, because most people are barely literate retards.
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OntologicalNightmare@reddit
When you're barely literate anything longer than 3 sentences is chatGPT.
JHandey2021@reddit
No Kings came out… twice? In eight months? Not exactly Tahrir Square. Not exactly the Wisconsin protests in 2010, or BLM in 2020.
AmericanVanguardist@reddit
It only takes one percent of the population to cause a civil war to happen. America will violently balkanize once the economy collapses due to the American dollar being devalued.
MusicHound823@reddit
not necessarily, there are only a few power transformers in the country and [removed by reddit]
youaintnoEuthyphro@reddit
very much a "chickens coming home to roost" situation, huh.
I think there's a sizable cohort of individuals in this country who just fundamentally don't believe in fucking with the status quo. an argument I get into rather often with my immediate family goes something along the lines of "you can't bring up politics!" but when I broach the subject of individual responsibility for things like vaccines & herd immunity, how my household largely consumes vegetables in season from local farmers, or the fact that we bike & use public transportation, the response is generally something along the lines of "that's no more or less valid than anyone else's choices!" or "we're just Regular People^tm how could we possibly do anything?!"
it's an infinite loop & apparently I'm the asshole for even broaching the subject. the status quo is self-reinforcing to people who benefit from it.
transplantpdxxx@reddit
I’ve been telling people to flee but they just scream and cry. That’s your last move while the borders are still open
toastedzergling@reddit
Our last chance was Biden to use military tribunals to punish Trump and his ilk. Those levers of power are never being given back.
Vdasun-8412@reddit
I'm going to support Cascadia...
NoodleyP@reddit
Democracy will not die with a bang, but with a whimper I fear.
Everyone’s gonna act all high and mighty until the tanks come rolling in and it would be incredibly hard for a military of this size to organize a coup or revolt all together, especially with a lot of high ranking positions being given to Trump’s men.
25TiMp@reddit
We may discover that our Glocks are useless against military arms.
transplantpdxxx@reddit
I tell my maga uncle that drones and murderous robots won’t be stopped by firearms. They don’t care.
25TiMp@reddit
You can see lots of vids where Russians try to shoot drones out of the sky before they get hit. It does not always seem to work for them.
transplantpdxxx@reddit
100%
IMSLI@reddit (OP)
Per Clausewitz, war is a continuation of policy (aka politics) but by other means. Viet Cong in ‘Nam, Sunni & Shia insurgents in Iraq, and the Taliban in Afghanistan held off against the U.S. military with primarily small arms. These are just guerrillas conflicts against the U.S., so not counting the myriad others.
Domestically, in 2014 Cliven Bundy organized a weeks-long standoff against federal law enforcement in Nevada. All they had were rifles and pistols, not even commercial drones, and this resulted in the Feds withdrawing (retreating).
Str0nkG0nk@reddit
Surely you realize this was a policy choice and had nothing to do with their being actually unable to break that "standoff."
cathartis@reddit
It's really common for resistance movements to face a militarily superior government. That's the whole point of guerilla warfare - avoiding direct confrontation with a militarily superior enemy whilst attacking vulnerabilities such as the infrastructure the enemy force relies on.
Not that I'd recommnend anyone goes out and does that tomorrow - just pointing out that anyone if revolutionaries were scared by superior firepower then no revolution would happen anywhere ever.
AmericanVanguardist@reddit
That is the point of guerilla warfare.
IMSLI@reddit (OP)
Perhaps the President will look to spark one before the 2028 election, or latest before the 2029 Inauguration…
ManticoreMonday@reddit
Why wait that long?
Depending on how lackluster turnout is in 2025 November elections, We could be seeing a lot more aggressive actions from the executive branch.
AbbeyRoadMomma@reddit
There will be no 2025 elections. Or there may be a rigged one like in banana republics, which we are rapidly becoming.
fitbootyqueenfan2017@reddit
yep billionaires fighting over who gets to steal the last pennies from the people.
momochicken55@reddit
They can barely even use our pennies, they have so much money. It's insane and cruel.
Freud-Network@reddit
The places that are warring are cities and the surrounding rural wasteland. It isn't one state vs another.
Hilda-Ashe@reddit
Interesting! An ultra-capitalist admitting that the capitalist elites are starting to get really afraid of Trump. Perhaps the capitalist elites shouldn't have used their capital to pave him the way to presidency.
-Calm_Skin-@reddit
Leopards and faces.
Also, this was all so obvious beforehand. It’s been such an epiphany for me how stupid many prominent people are.
gxgxe@reddit
Realistically, we should absolutely expect them to be stupid. They're exclusively focused on a tiny few topics and have no breadth of knowledge nor any desire to learn anything contrary to their world view.
Why we think they should be in charge instead of scientists and dedicated public servants, I will never know.
psycubi@reddit
They are not stupid or unique. We don’t have to excuse them- but we can understand. Understanding does not mean accepting or diffusing blame. In this case- it’s not strange for individuals amassing wealth to spiral down that path of greed and indifference. This is not entirely unlike a child left alone with the Cookie jar. Do we blame the child for getting a tummy ache? This is society at large that has left these people with too many cookies. Philanthropy is a great example of how society fails itself.. why the hell do people amass such wealth? That money should not be in one persons control. It should be in the coffers of the state- to care for roads, social programs, etc. It shouldn’t be up to one a hole to decide what’s important for their surplus- it should be in the hands of democratically elected officials of the people.
gxgxe@reddit
The kind of people that go down that road to extreme wealth are stupid in the sense that they cannot connect the dots that show them amassing great wealth is a bad idea for the whole of humanity.
They aren't stupid in their specific area of expertise or personal finance, but for them to assume they are capable of leading other people or have any good ideas for running a country is sheer stupidity and the height of Dunning-Kruger. Their way only works for them because they are parasites and not everyone can be a parasite. The rest of us are hosts, so their belief system requires a hierarchy in which they are superior and deserving while the rest of us deserve poverty.
When other people hoard items instead of money, we recognize it as a severe mental health issue and respond accordingly, but if it's money...
Frankly, we are doomed as a species because we keep letting bad, stupid, short-sighted people run things. We need to find a better way to choose leadership. I still like Vonnegut's idea of a nationwide lottery that can't be gamed. At least then you have non-moneyed people making some decisions.
psycubi@reddit
Oh yes the lottery thing is really interesting.. Here they all it sortition;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition
I’m not sure Id demand that an individual should care for the benefit of humanity. I care for others - I’m kind- but a lot of my friends have expressed I’m suffering fools- and that’s ok. It’s ok for others not to care about the whales and other countries etc. That by itself should not rouse disdain. We can cultivate and promote compassion and mindfulness. This is thinking aloud on my part not argument in opposition to anything stated. Thank you.
NoseyMinotaur69@reddit
Lol, id take a hippy over a scientist. Science often inherently lacks moral or ethical principles
psycubi@reddit
Scientists did not choose to actually pour money and resources into nukes- scientists did not press the button- scientists did not decide to drop the bomb on innocent people.
Chet_Ripley01@reddit
100%. There are soooo many stupid, gullible, and selfish people.
psycubi@reddit
That’s excusing them. It’s neglect and apathy- irresponsibility- some would argue it’s outright sociopathy.
VolitionReceptacle@reddit
"Humans are simple and profoundly confused. Weak of mind and spirit and body." frfr
onionfunyunbunion@reddit
Yeah turns out intelligence is only one of many factors that can contribute to attainment. I’d guess that compliance is far more important than intellect. P
Glancing-Thought@reddit
Part of the paradox is that the best people to have in charge of things are the very people who don't want to be.
grahamulax@reddit
It’s made me feel more confident in how I think though! I know we have smart people out there way above me, but we did not choose them and instead now I feel incredibly smart when I see them yet that’s not how it should be hahaha
gobeklitepewasamall@reddit
Dalio is something of an idiot, if you haven’t realized this already.
His books sold because of the association with some perceived prestige, and because we still mistakenly associate wealth with competence in a bizarre hangover from the Protestant work ethic.
The actual ideas he laundered were just old school braindead Austrian business cycle theory, as peddled by mindless mid century Chicago economists.
Eradicator_1729@reddit
These guys think they’re geniuses when the reality is they’re all just lucky assholes. And once they get enough money it becomes easy to rig the game so they make more and more and more. But that necessarily destabilizes society, and then you get strong-arm autocrats.
If they had just been happy with tens millions then maybe a more robust middle class and social safety net could have been built, which would have actually worked in their favor.
Fucking idiots.
psycubi@reddit
Honesty I don’t know for sure how many of us would behave differently. It’s like the person who says hey sure I can try shooting up heroin once or twice- maybe and maybe not- the numbers don’t look good. How many people amassing wealth just kinda wake up one day and say .. wait a minute.. this is not good for humanity as a whole!!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2215151/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk
Eradicator_1729@reddit
That’s the point. No one should be able to amass that much wealth to begin with.
psycubi@reddit
I think that doc/opinion movie helped me narrow down some ideas. Like the wealthy guy explaining he buys very nice jeans but he really only needs a few pairs- and so past a certain money point- it’s wasted on him to have that wealth.
okmko@reddit
Money and people amplifies the best and the worst in the person. But I personally feel like it induces sociopathy in everyone. You become a minority of sorts and that just nurtures further self-isolation, mistrust, misanthropy, elitism, and loniness.
psycubi@reddit
That last part about “membership in the number of ..” would love to see arguments about that- sounds very interesting. Thank you
okmko@reddit
There is a specific model that I'm referring to but I don't recall the formal name (usually named after the authors)
But, as I understand it, for Sociology, minority groups are defined by power and not strictly (but often are) by ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc. And a person belongs to a mix of majority and minority groups. That distinction is lost in the common usage of the word "minority" unfortunately.
Top_Hair_8984@reddit
Not only lucky fking idiots, but slimey cheating a*sholes who'll do everything they can to get $$. Anything.
Careful_Ad8933@reddit
Well said!
grahamulax@reddit
And now I don’t want to give any capital to those companies anymore. We all shouldn’t. This shouldn’t have been allowed where mega corps can influence an election.
psycubi@reddit
If anyone isn’t acquainted…
https://youtu.be/_xxiIejOmSo
Templar388z@reddit
Hopefully rich people start falling out windows.
Xillyfos@reddit
I don't think they are that scared. They really don't need to speak up, because the fascism and dictatorship doesn't really affect them much, so not speaking up is not really a problem for them. They will be fine.
Collapse2043@reddit
The Russian Oligarchs weren’t.
SomeGuyWithARedBeard@reddit
They only reason the ultra capitalists would ever turn on Trump is if he's not effective in strong-arming the world in favor of their unipolar capital advantage. The US government is the armed corporation of America that is given orders by Wall Street, like a well fed loyal dog to sic on enemies. Capitalism in the US is not about fostering competition and giving everyone a chance at a piece of the pie, it's about forging winners who monopolize the world and they can't tolerate a multipolar world where anybody is allowed to exist who isn't indirectly taking orders from the winners. So we lie, cheat and steal until everybody is under our Al Capone boots. That Trump is being called out by ultra-capitalists is like people in gated communities calling out the local sheriff for being too hard on minorities - it's not because they care about the minorities.
AlimonyEnjoyer@reddit
You can thank Trump for that
psycubi@reddit
It didn’t sound from the article that this person is qualified to judge. It’s simply opinion. There are however, actual professionals in the field.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/23/magazine/robert-paxton-facism.html
Some of these scholars made statements, or left the country.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/26/yale-professor-fascism-canada
Would love to see what else they have to say right about now.
meatspace@reddit
Too bad he can't help stop it. He's only a billionaire regarded as a financial wizard. It's not like he can help or anything.
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
You would think an autocrat would know how!
cruisingforapubing@reddit
YAH NO SHIT ASSHOLE LOL
arealnineinchnailer@reddit
does that mean we’re in a 1920’s depression currently
KernunQc7@reddit
Thank you Ray, we've noticed that with fossil fuels quality decreasing, that democracy is degrading.
dolphone@reddit
It's been sliding for a while, it has momentum and quite a bit of track record by now.
HousesRoadsAvenues@reddit
Slipping, sliding away...sort of a Paul Simon quote. I feel we slid and slipped many years ago, IMO in the 1980s.
Xillyfos@reddit
Yup, it started to go really downhill in the 1980s with Reagan. We all watched and thought that this was going to end badly. It was so obviously all the wrong values that were being celebrated. Low taxes is certainly not the way to a healthy society and never has been.
Collapse2043@reddit
Yeah, I had such a sinking feeling when Reagan was elected. I hoped things would swing back but they never did.
HousesRoadsAvenues@reddit
When Reagan was elected I was 11, going on 12. I wasn't quite sure what it all meant. By the time 1982 hit and Lackawana Steel in Lackawana NY closed its plant, not to mention Chevy, Ford and Westinghouse in WNY - I understood it.
HousesRoadsAvenues@reddit
True. On and on and on about LOW TAXES and how they "save" the US taxpayers money. Low taxes have gotten us...what exactly? IMO more cruelty and more billionaires.
25TiMp@reddit
This would seem to imply that we are headed toward a 1940s-style war.
SomeGuyWithARedBeard@reddit
A lot of people want/wanted war with China, they can't tolerate geopolitical competition so they want a military buildup similar to what happened before both World Wars in order to galvanize their allies' wealth in their hands and prepare for a big shooting war.
25TiMp@reddit
WW3 will certainly be exciting!
cathartis@reddit
Are you making the error of assuming that the only country that slid into fascist authoritarianism in the 1930s was Germany and therefore concluding that every country sliding towards fascist authoritarianism must behave exactly like 1930s Germany?
Can't help thinking that's a result of the bad US education system and people being unaware that a whole bunch of countries took that route historically and many did not go out of their way to start external wars, the most well known being Italy and Spain.
There are reasons to expect conflict in the future, but they won't be the same as Nazi Germany. I'd instead wonder how well this regime will be able to hold itself together if the economy plummets, and public support takes a nosedive.
BigBubblesNoTroubles@reddit
Sliding? Bitch we here.
psycubi@reddit
No. We are inside a fascist dictatorship since Jan 20 2025. We are not in danger of anything- our worst fears are realized. The nightmare will not unfold all at once. But it is here now. Anything ‘warning’ about possibilities is incorrect.
ByTheHammerOfThor@reddit
We are not sliding. We are in the pool at the bottom of the slide.
lgodsey@reddit
In 50 years, conservatives will be amazed and will wonder what happened. They will be totally surprised at what horrors were wrought, just like they will be about the next fascist despot they bring into power.
bipolarearthovershot@reddit
We don’t have 50 years…
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
Exactly.
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
Sliding? Toward?
What astroturfing nonsense is this?
It's THERE. Now.
Queasy_Command_1876@reddit
Unfortunately the real story isn’t just Trump, it’s that collapse requires command and control, and Trump is merely the vessel the U.S. system has produced for that shift.
A democratic U.S. can’t enforce sacrifice on its population when climate-driven shortages and multi-crises hit. An authoritarian U.S. can. Trump isn’t the end goal, JD Vance is, and Peter Thiel made sure of that by funding him when he was still a nobody.
It’s the same pattern we’ve seen before: Lenin destabilizes, Stalin consolidates. The vessel changes, but the structural need for command during collapse is the constant.
IMSLI@reddit (OP)
US sliding towards 1930s-style autocracy, warns Ray Dalio
Billionaire hedge fund boss says other investors are too scared of Trump to speak out
https://www.ft.com/content/b86bd33b-b3e7-4485-8b1c-6f01e639dd04
Hedge fund billionaire Ray Dalio has warned Donald Trump’s America is drifting into 1930s-style autocratic politics — and said other investors are too scared of the president to speak up.
The Bridgewater Associates founder told the Financial Times that “gaps in wealth”, “gaps in values” and a collapse in trust were driving “more extreme” policies in the US.
“I think that what is happening now politically and socially is analogous to what happened around the world in the 1930-40 period,” Dalio said.
State intervention in the private sector, such as Trump’s decision to take a 10 per cent stake in chipmaker Intel, was the sort of “strong autocratic leadership that sprang out of the desire to take control of the financial and economic situation”, Dalio said.
His comments to the FT mark a rare criticism of Trump by a prominent financial figure, despite mounting private alarm at the president’s policies among some Wall Street’s investors.
“I am just describing the cause and effect relationships that are driving what is happening,” he said. “And by the way, during such times most people are silent because they are afraid of retaliation if they criticise.”
Dalio, who is among the US’s best-known macro hedge fund investors and turned Bridgewater into a $150bn powerhouse at its peak, also warned about the threats to the Federal Reserve’s independence days after Trump launched an unprecedented move to sack one of its governors.
Trump also recently nominated a close ally to fill a vacancy on the Fed’s board, a critical step as he pushes for fast and deep cuts to borrowing costs.
Dalio said a politically weakened central bank, pressed to keep rates low, “would undermine the confidence in the Fed defending the value of money and make holding dollar-denominated debt assets less attractive which would weaken the monetary order as we know it”.
International investors had started shifting out of Treasuries into gold, he added.
Dalio said he also believes many years of big deficits and unsustainable debt growth had brought the US economy to the brink of a debt crisis, although he noted “presidents from both parties” had overseen a worsening situation before Trump’s latest fiscal plan.
“The great excesses that are now projected as a result of the new budget will likely cause a debt-induced heart attack in the relatively near future,” he said. “I’d say three years, give or take a year or two.”
Dalio, the author of Principles for Dealing With the Changing World Order and How Countries Go Broke: the Big Cycle, has long been vocal in warning of the debt threat posed to western economies. He likened the US to a body’s circulatory system clogged with plaque as the debt service payments squeeze out other spending.
He said Washington is spending about $7tn a year while raising only $5tn in revenue — an imbalance that would force massive new debt issuance just as investors question whether Treasuries are “good storeholds of wealth”. He added: “The demand for debt will unlikely keep up with the supply.”
The Fed would face a stark choice as the market began doubting the US’s fiscal credibility, Dalio added. “Allow interest rates to go up and have a debt default crisis, or print money and buy the debt that others won’t buy.” Both paths would hurt the dollar, he said.
IMSLI@reddit (OP)
The veteran investor also took aim at a rising impulse towards state control under Trump. Dalio resisted calling the president’s model authoritarian or socialist, but described the mechanics bluntly: “Governments increasingly take control of what is done by central banks and businesses.”
Asked about Trump’s Intel stake and export tariffs imposed on Nvidia and AMD, Dalio referred to his own concept of “the big cycle”, when during periods of great conflicts and risks countries’ leaders are more controlling of the markets and the economy.
“Classically, increased wealth and value gaps lead to increased populism of the right and populism of the left and irreconcilable differences between them that can’t be resolved through the democratic process. So democracies weaken and more autocratic leadership increases as a large percentage of the population wants government leaders to get control of the system to make things work well for them.”
HSHallucinations@reddit
he says it's worried about "autocracy" but then he says stuff like
and
so i guess he's mostly worried about the end of unregulated capitalism because that's how he makes his money
Barabbas-@reddit
On the contrary, Dalio is in the hedge fund business. He makes his money by *hedging* (betting against) the market. That's why he is always peddling his "the sky is falling" narrative: traditional investors losing confidence in their positions contributes positively to his bottom line.
Dalio is prolifically outspoken within the investment world because being perceived as a modern-day Nostradamus is all part of his marketing strategy. When he's right, he makes sure everyone knows what a genius he is, and when his predictions don't pan out, he shifts the goal posts and/or retcons his statements to fit the updated narrative.
You may also notice that much of what he says can be characterized as incredibly obvious, reductive, and/or un-actionably broad in scope. The US has been sliding toward autocracy for the last quarter-century... This is not news to anyone with half a brain. Nevertheless, recommend taking whatever he says with a heavy grain of salt.
HSHallucinations@reddit
yes you just described some of the issues with unregulated capitalism
Barabbas-@reddit
Let's be clear: while the US may be slipping politically and socially toward autocracy, there is nothing "autocratic" about this Intel deal. The 10% US stake consists entirely of equity shares, which means they do not have any voting privileges (eg: control over the company). This is more akin to a bailout than an autocratic takeover.
So why the false parallel? Because Dalio wants to undermine investor confidence. If enough people believe the government is taking control of the market - regardless of whether it's true - they'll liquify their positions, causing a dip (or better yet, a crash) which directly benefits Dalio.
Dalio and Bridgewater aren't "worried" about recession/collapse, they're actively trying to hasten its arrival by planting ideas in your head and constructing an easily digestible worldview narrative. In short: it's a psyop.
96-62@reddit
Ohh, that's why the value of my gold coins is surging.
BigJobsBigJobs@reddit
he's a billionaire - part of that slide to autocracy.
he's very disingenuous.
cabalavatar@reddit
I'm glad he's admitting it, but I'm much more prone to listen to the experts on fascism and dictatorship who've affirmed that the US is already mere steps away from a fully fledged fascistic dictatorship. Many of them have even fled the US.
jedrider@reddit
Anyway, it does appear that one party now controls the federal government and it is still in question whether there will be a successor to Donald Trump that can threaten their way to keep that unity? Trump has been masterful at disassembling our empire abroad and our institutions at home. Putin is smiling and Xi knows an opportunity when he sees it.
AmericanVanguardist@reddit
America will balkanize. A 1930s style regime wouldn't be able to hold the country together.
Able_Investigator725@reddit
My reaction to reading this was, and what actions are you taking to correct the wealth imbalance MR BILLIONAIRE?
taez555@reddit
Rolling like the steam roller in Austin Powers.
DisingenuousGuy@reddit
At least in Austin Powers, the poor guy was screaming. Here it seems most of the wold-be squishees are actively cheering for the steamroller as it inches slowly towards them.
taez555@reddit
Well, it's been 40 years. I can only scream so long.
Kowlz1@reddit
Sliding? Baby, we’re already here.
AbbreviationsGlum709@reddit
With Trump Being dead - are we closer or further from this now?
Southern_Classic6027@reddit
It'll stay the same, as JD Vance takes over, who is in the pocket of Peter Thiel.
IMSLI@reddit (OP)
When Bret Baier (Fox News) asked Trump about Shillbilly Vance potentially being his successor in 2028, he responded “NO but he’s very capable … It’s too early.”
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6368618661112
raven00x@reddit
Guessing he sees the writing in the wall and doesn't want to be in that group.
Hazzman@reddit
What a load of nonsense.
Billionaires aren't afraid of Trump, they don't give a shit about Trump... they are very happy with Trump's performance.
HumanBarbarian@reddit
We're not sliding, we're in freefall.
hostilemf@reddit
Has slid, past tense. A little late to point out the obvious, Dalio. Fuck this guy.
trexhatespushups42@reddit
He didn’t say much until it started potentially impacting the Fed. I mean, points for trying to reach a more cocooned audience, I guess?
Must be nice to sit around, post random “tenets” on LinkedIn, and have your underlings scramble around pushing forth late stage capitalism.
LastCivStanding@reddit
trump derangement syndrome always was dictator derangement syndrome.
gxgxe@reddit
He should know; he's part of it with his hoarding.
LocusofZen@reddit
It doesn't have to. If those who aren't already will get off their ass, stop hiding behind their families as an excuse for cowardice, and join the rest of us organizing, rallying, protesting, and planning... we can figure this shit out before we become 4th Reich Americana. Unfuck yourselves.
Malcolm_Morin@reddit
But that's impossible! /r/doomercirclejerk promised me America was gonna be better than ever! Surely, they wouldn't lie to me, would they?
WOULD THEY???
BadAsBroccoli@reddit
jfc, Everybody has a diagnosis. Everyone talks and talks. Lots of "experts" explaining and explaining how America is falling. Enough!
If no one is willing to stand on the truth of their opinions, to use and possibly endanger their positions to be leaders, to take their expert diagnoses to the streets and head a citizen's charge against Trump, to stand at the forefront so We the People can rise up in an organized and truly effective way....
Then all the talk and diagnosing and explaining, explaining, explaining does absolutely nothing to stop Trump.
hang10shakabruh@reddit
We’ve become completely bereft of integrity as a nation. And I know exactly how it happened:
Greed is a parasite that consumes integrity.
AnAncientOne@reddit
It's been interesting to see how easy it's been to strip the US of its last vestiges of democracy. Guess that's what happens when so many people bury their heads in the sand, hoping it will all go away.
ellsammie@reddit
And the other half is openly courting the slide. Mostly because they believe that it won't affect them.
AnAncientOne@reddit
Yeah and some of them see it as an employment opportunity, truly bizarre.
delusionalbillsfan@reddit
Dalio's an annoying goldbug whose always predicting recessions and collapses. He's not a reliable narrator.
daviddjg0033@reddit
the US has had rolling recessions in various sectors since 2022. He is not the only one talking about a debt-fueled bubble. If the Fed loses credibility than the rate cuts will not decrease borrowing costs.
The Fed only has a few tools - it cannot tell the government to spend less money - it can purchase bonds or other assets and cut or raise short term rates.
People keep talking about US and western countries inflation and we see people buy gold when they expect inflation or the rate of inflation to continue. China is experiencing deflation and has done things lately like putting a bottom on coal prices.
The US was not able to meet 2% inflation targets for years but has been at or above 2% for a while. The one thing keeping inflation in check has been low energy costs in the US. The peakoil crowd thinks that we have drilled the best natural gas wells and since the Hubbard curve on natural gas is steeper than oil the US could be at peak fossil fuel extraction. Higher energy costs are a tax on low to middle wage earners through higher fuel and food prices.
Due-Dot6450@reddit
Sliding? It's already there.
ScoTT--FrEE@reddit
Captain obvious.
Nicodemus888@reddit
What an idiotic asshole
Why TF do I want to listen to anything he has to say
IMSLI@reddit (OP)
Why do we listen to you?
Nicodemus888@reddit
He’s a hedge fund billionaire. Yeah you really should listen to people like him. God forbid the government actually do something. Jesus, these are the kinds of ghouls who fantasise about libertarian paradise, free from the shackles of government telling them what to do. Fuck this clown
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