Before IBM realised brand names sold machines…
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IBM had their own 8 year nightmare making a portable. Playing catch up initially with the Compaq Portable which was specifically created as the ‘first’ clone not competing with anything IBM sold, IBM rushed out their own 51-series PC (with CRT) in a sewing machine case - the 5155 and nobody liked it. A couple of years later they came out with the Convertible - dud. Then the P70 lunchbox - dud. Then within week of their own internal lab in Japan developing and releasing a proper black notebook - the PS/55 note, only in Japan, the international and main markets were served this - the PS/2 Model L40 SX.
Despite Richard Sapper hating it, the L40 was used as a lab rat for new case designs, better colour LCDs and the ‘new’ pointing stick trackpoint II.
Many people rave about its ‘proper’ Lexmark keyboard, which is supposedly the reason the machine is so big.
This example is one of mine and comes in a battle station carry case with its own Lexmark printer, so was probably used by a travelling salesman or engineer in its first couple of years. But that’s another story. Take in the angles!
istarian@reddit
IBM was almost aware knew that brand names sell machines, they just weren't known for personal computers.
RetroGamer87@reddit
Nice computer. But who made it?
algaefied_creek@reddit
My dad’s realtor had this, along with a bag phone in the 90s for some form of FAX or slow web connection.
My dad, stepmom, realtor all closed the deal on-site: she scanned their IDs, printed copies for them to sign, signed them for them to keep, she scanned copies for her, whatever the process was exactly idk I was literally a kid….
But it was one of those fascinating moments where I was like “wow I’m a movie”… Stands out in memory as seeming anachronistic in terms of work flow yet perfectly high tech contemporary.
And even today it’s not far removed from DocuSign.
invokes@reddit
I see you and your sexy pictures! Stop it! It's too naughty!
Once again you absolutely nail it! I need that mouse btw! 😂
itzyahmanjones@reddit
I need that mouse too. I have everything else.
solidpro99@reddit (OP)
Yes, it’s a very very naughty picture. Trackpoint 1, actually!
invokes@reddit
Details details! 😂
LousyMeatStew@reddit
That's the buckling sleeve keyboard. Not as famous as the buckling spring but it should be, IMHO. Very early Thinkpad models had this and it was used for the low-profile keyboard on the PS/2 E.
In case anyone wants to know what's on the inside, David Jones as got you covered..
vwestlife@reddit
It's not far to call the P70 a "dud" when it cost $8,000 (in 1989 dollars!). It was never going to be a mass-market machine.
solidpro99@reddit (OP)
It's a dud to bring out a 'sewing machine' red gas plasma display when the competition have moved onto greyscale, backlid (as in show lots of shades) clamshell laptops, for less.
You say it wasn't mass-market - it was IBM's consumer as well as corporate solution to mobile computing. They had nothing else.
vwestlife@reddit
The P70 competed with gas plasma luggables like the $6000 Toshiba T3100SX or $8000 Compaq Portable 386, not laptops.
The P70 was PC Magazine's Editor's Choice in 1990: https://books.google.com/books?id=AlnQ5OJS6XgC&lpg=PT160&dq=ibm%20p70%20t3100sx%20compaq%20portable&pg=PT140#v=onepage&q=p70%20editor's%20choice&f=false
TMWNN@reddit
Ridiculous. That's like saying that Cray mainframes were consumer products, because Cray didn't sell home computers.
Between the Convertible's failure and the L40 IBM only sold a portable computer (P70) designed for very high-end corporate needs. That's all.
FernandoMariscal@reddit
A beauty 😍🙌🏼
95blackz26@reddit
my first computer was a ibm thinkpad 310ed. through moving over the years it got lost.
solidpro99@reddit (OP)
My condolences. It wasn't a thinkpad because it was made my Acer... https://ret.rocks/index.php/ibm/300-series#thinkpad310
TMWNN@reddit
I've heard that the Portable PC was rushed out because IBM salesmen needed a product directly competing against the Compaq Portable.
The fact that IBM had to clone a clone wouldn't have been so embarrassing if the Portable PC is superior to Compaq's, but it isn't. It is heavier, and I believe also lacks Compaq's innovative video system that supports both CGA and MDA on the same hardware and display.
refuge9@reddit
I was gonna say the same thing. The P70 was fairly popular, but was 3 years older, and $1600 more expensive. The only benefit the L40 had was being more easily portable. The P70 was more upgradable. Otherwise their specs were mostly the same. Even today it seems like the P70 has a larger following than the L40. It certainly still goes for more money than an L40.
solidpro99@reddit (OP)
The problem with the P70 was that it was obviously competing with the Compaq Portable III but when they released it Compaq immediately countered with its LTE laptop which absolutely trounced it in reviews. Again IBM were playing the last battle instead of the present one.
refuge9@reddit
Compaq was kind of always ahead of IBM in innovation. IBM was considered the ‘old guard’ of computing and the personal PC space was an afterthought to them (until suddenly it was important and the were way behind).
But the luggables and laptops during that time had much different purposes. The luggables like the P70/P75 were meant for acting as something of a portable server or for doing remote technician work. (GE used a P70 painted black as a portable test station and controller for some of GEs Fanuc PLCs for instance, because it could take expansion cards).
As a portable workstation, the L40 was definitely much more portable, as much more usable for normal people on the go, but I feel their use cases are very apples to oranges.
camilatricolor@reddit
That numpad is so cool. It even comes with that protective case to ensure only authorized users can access it before launching the nukes
jurassic_junkie@reddit
The keyboards on those are one of the best ever made. Such a great feeling to type on.
nomnomonium@reddit
If you haven't watched halt and catch fire please do
solidpro99@reddit (OP)
Is that the series about Compaq?
refuge9@reddit
It’s about a fictional company, but IIRC, the first season was loosely based somewhat on Compaq. The later seasons deal with different eras of the computer age.
Visual-Sector6642@reddit
That's a great story!
wittywalrus1@reddit
Amazing composition - thanks for sharing!
morganstern@reddit
This is what I thought the future of computing would look like when I was a kid.
solidpro99@reddit (OP)
I still think it does!
Ok_Gas_7926@reddit
this is really cool
invokes@reddit
Backlit screen? I don't remember mine being backlit! I better test it tomorrow! Yours is so bright! So sexy! 😂
solidpro99@reddit (OP)
Yes, I also forget these all are backlit. You’re thinking of the original convertible screen isn’t. The reason this picture exists is because my other one had rotting caps behind the inverter, but this one had none….