Will the new Digg hold moderators in Digg sub communities accountable for going full authoritarian?

Posted by Amazonreviewscool67@reddit | RedditAlternatives | View on Reddit | 35 comments

Just curious,

Reddit allows its subreddits to run rampant by letting moderators of the subreddits ban whoever they don't like, even if the user didn't break any rules or even permanently banning people if they broke fairly small rules, even first-offenders.

It's become a huge problem and their excuse is: "Subreddit moderators can do whatever they like, it's their subreddit"

Does the new Digg address this? Does it also allow sub-community moderators to do whatever they want? Or can they be held accountable?

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Public-Rock-2943@reddit

Why do they remove non offensive posts or they have any criteria ? I am curious. Do they owe any explanation?

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Amazonreviewscool67@reddit (OP)

They do not owe you an explanation.

However, without seeing the actual post, I can't see what the reason may have been

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FearlessInflation92@reddit

How would you guys hold them accountable. What solution would you do.

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Amazonreviewscool67@reddit (OP)

Allow the platform admins to force removal of moderators/ban moderators from those communities if they are found to be abusing powers

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better_thanyou@reddit

How is that any different than literally every sites attempts at moderation. Do you think Reddit, or any website that exists for that matter, doesn’t have the power to ban mods they don’t like?

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Amazonreviewscool67@reddit (OP)

You realize you can't report mods for not following their own rules right? They literally have free reign over their subreddits.

You do realize Reddit won't ban mods for that right?

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Skavau@reddit

I mean one easy situation is to limit the amount of communities new members can moderate. Reddit plans to bring this in now, but with how embedded many users are in busy subreddits - this could be a bit tumultuous.

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kaesylvri@reddit

Digg has openly announced it will be using AI to auto-mod and selectively auto-filter posts to 'improve community standards' while basically confirming moderation will happen just like it does here on reddit.

It doesn't really get more straight up authoritarian than that.

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Delicious_Ease2595@reddit

Aren't they gonna use AI for mods?

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tunachilimac@reddit

From what I’ve read you can create a community then you configure the AI to do what you want. I won’t be using the site purely because the whole thing is an effort to boost Altman’s privacy eroding worldcoin company.

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Delicious_Ease2595@reddit

Oh is it confirmed they are going to use Worldcoin?

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tunachilimac@reddit

They’ve talked about having different tiers of access to the site based on how much personal info you give them to “prove you’re human” and they want you to go scanned by a worldcoin orb for full posting access.

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deus_deceptor@reddit

That's weird, since WorldID is a zero-knowledge-proof solution that doesn't want any personal info other than that you show yourself to an orb.

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hydroflame7@reddit

Oh jeez

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Delicious_Ease2595@reddit

Yikes 😬

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xThe_Moonx@reddit

I hope it's what people want. Im tired of reddit mods. Subs shouldn't belong to the mods, they should belong to the community members who elect mods or literally any other way than the authoritarian method reddit implements currently.

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Pipers_Blu@reddit

I am a moderator and 100% agree with you. The amount of blatant mod abuse I see is astonishing and it goes both ways.

The only thing I will say in defense of being a mod is that admin has cracked down hard and we don't even know what is being pulled by them.

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Pendulum@reddit

Reading the Modsupport subreddit can be horrifying. About 95% of the contributors are regular people, doing their best. But a very vocal 5% are the dictionary definition of Landed Gentry that Spez called them.

Some off the cuff examples, and excluding the gloating and pride in "we don't need a reason to ban them"; discussions on how to lure users into responding to modmails so they can be reported for harassment to try get them site banned, demands to be able to edit users comments, demands to be able to moderate comments and posts made in other communities than the ones they moderate, commitments to automatically ban anyone who turns on Reddit Profile Curation... Look, the short answer is ongoing tantrums and people with a slither of power over others and it going completely to their head.

And how much they lost their minds at the upcoming changes to limit the number of active communities they can be a moderator on.

Reading that subreddit has made me side with Spez. Let that sink in.

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Acrobatic-Hunt618@reddit

At this point im just trying to get banned by these “people”.

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FauxGenius@reddit

Gonna be unpaid mods for the mods, just you wait.

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DoncicLakers@reddit

moderating shouldnt be viewed as a job, it should be viewed as a privilege of service to the community.

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funkadeliczipper@reddit

Yeah but who mods the mod's mods?

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chesterriley@reddit

[Reddit allows its subreddits to run rampant by letting moderators of the subreddits ban whoever they don't like, even if the user didn't break any rules or even permanently banning people if they broke fairly small rules, even first-offenders.]

lemmy.world does this too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/redditalternatives2/comments/1n07owd/banned_from_lemmyworld_sitewide_for_agreeing_with/

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HTTP_404_NotFound@reddit

First, day on the internet?

No platform has the resources to monitor every single channel, sub, community, etc created on their platform, especially when anyone can create one.

This issue goes back long before the majority of redditors were even born. Even on IRC, someone can create a channel, get OP, and ban/kick whomever they want.

You can create a minecraft server, and powertrip to your hearts desire.

You can create a facebook group, powertrip all you want.

You can create a youtube channel, and again, powertrip all you want.

You can create a discord channel. Nothing stops you from being an asshat and banning whoever you want.

You can go create a lemmy instance, ban whoever you want from your instance. You can even ban entire other fediverse servers.

You can go create a phpbb forum. Power trip all you want.

I will state again. There is no platform, on the face of this planet which is going to keep someone from making a community/channel/sub/blah, and restrict this behaviour.

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Amazonreviewscool67@reddit (OP)

No platform has the resources to monitor every single channel, sub, community, etc created on their platform, especially when anyone can create one.

Who said anything about monitoring? There is no platform that can in real-time monitor that. That's what ticketing systems are for / reports. And yes, reddit of its current size absolutely has the resources for people to track tickets.

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deport_racists_next@reddit

That's what ticketing systems are for / reports. And yes, reddit of its current size absolutely has the resources for people to track tickets

I like your perspective.

Now, where do we send the bill for each ticket you want to open?

What's that? You don't think you should pay? Then who should pay for your discomfort? Reddits owners? Clearly, they don't want to. Oh, you don't like how reddit runs their platform?

Well, it seems you are free to go start your own platform and run it as you want.

The Golden Rule is and will always be, he who has the gold makes the rules for me and thee.

Welcome to adulting.

It would be interesting to see how a platform would evolve that charged per post or dispute or other usage factor. I'd pay to see that.

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Amazonreviewscool67@reddit (OP)

Now, where do we send the bill for each ticket you want to open?

You don't even have to pay to open tickets right now on reddit. You can literally make reports for free for reddit admins to see.

The Golden Rule is and will always be, he who has the gold makes the rules for me and thee.

You seem to have this idea of taking two steps backwards, but 0 steps forward.

Again, the discussion was not about how it will be implemented, but if so this is going off-topic.

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deport_racists_next@reddit

Once again, proof that we really should have issued licenses proving competency before opening the information superhighway to just anyone.

Now go find your adult and let them know how you feel.

In the meantime, I just want to welcome you to your first day online.

... at least that's how you are wailing.

No matter. You have proven yourself unworthy of future dialog.

Bye!

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Amazonreviewscool67@reddit (OP)

I like how you didn't disprove a single thing that was said.

I agree, definitely shouldn't open the Internet up to people like you who debate based on feelings rather than facts.

Reddit doesn't require payment to open reports. Thanks.

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HTTP_404_NotFound@reddit

And yes, reddit of its current size absolutely has the resources for people to track tickets.

It's not that easy.

Otherwise, I can go visit the sub of anything I don't like, and we can overtake the sub by mass reporting.

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Amazonreviewscool67@reddit (OP)

and we can overtake the sub by mass reporting

That would imply that every report gets accepted.

Again, I am asking if Digg has made any announcements into their new platform if they are looking into this as it's been a large problem and why a lot of users want to escape platforms like reddit.

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