You can make this case for the Westbank but Gaza hadn’t been occupied since 2005, with the IDF pulling out and forcably removing its own citizens.

Banning textbooks created and distributed by UNRWA, which dehumanize Jews and promoting jihadism would be a necessary step for any chance of future co-existence right? Well, unless your actual goal is to deny Israel its existence all together, then you certainly wouldn’t see a major problem with the education system.

Also, just like your accusations of Araphobia and Islamophobia, i never in my life defended the illegal Israeli settlements or the actions of the settlers there. I infact always said that these settlements shouldn’t exist and certainly not be expanded and if settlers commit crimes against Palestinians in the Westbank they should be held accountable in court and, since they are in a area under martial law, they should be judged by it just as Palestinians are. It’s always the same dumb shit, just because i am a Zionist people think i observe shabbat with crazies like BenGvir right after we beat up a bunch of Palestinians who tried to get some water. Get more creative for once.

I wonder if Zionist Jews are conditioned to think a certain way? Nah, can’t be. It would mess with your self-awareness…

Some probably condition their own kids domestically in a way but there isn‘t really a specific organized effort, besides general Israeli education, if you mean that.

Also that isn’t really necessary as Zionism has such low entry levels as „Should Jews have a right to self-determination and be able to have a country of their own.“ and i know this might sound weird to non-Jews but the majority of Jews really believes that we should have the same right of self-determination as any other ethnic group in the world. If something is self-evident you don’t really need to hammer it home i guess.

Abbas, as is tradition in the Palestinian leadership it seems, is mostly concerned with sustaining his own power base no matter the cost but atleast the Palestinian cause comes second or third for him unlike with jihadist fanatics like Hamas.

If not what exactly is Israel doing to meet him half way?

There were several agreements reached, for example Oslo I in which both sides recognized eachother officially and a agreed on a transition phase in which governance of the Westbank would be handed over step by step under the condition that the PLO would renounce terrorism.

Oslo II then was supposed to kick of the actual transition of governance to the PA, which already was fullfilled in Area A and partially in Area B even though there never was a full stop of terrorist attacks financed by the so called martyrs fund (or „pay to slay“ as it‘s also known) until earlier this year.

Why it didn’t proceed from there? Because there are still major points to be agreed upon, lile the question of Jerusalem, do the Jewish settlements get to stay or not, could settlers renounce their Israeli citizenship and become Palestinian citizens in a future state if they chose to? What are the final borders between Israel and the Westbank to be? Would Palestinians and their descendants who were expelled or fled be allowed to return to Israel as citizens or not?

Then the Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated by a right-wing extremist Jew and later Ariel Sharon walked onto the Temple Mount which kicked of the Second Intifada. You can imagine that constant suicide bombings kind of halted the political process and the sentiment of the population to give further concessions to a political entity that didn’t just officially represent but also finance the individuals and their families with the previously mentioned martyrs fund.

You support genocide. Because Palestinian are deserving of it.

You are lucky you are not in my country or you would get sued for diffamation.

Are you really so blind that you can’t see that you view the Palestinians as subhuman?

Again, pure diffamation or can you quote me on referring to Palestinians as „lesser“ in any way?

Where is any of that hasbara? Look up the official school textbooks the UNRWA hands out and tell me those aren‘t purposely agitating children towards anti-Jewish and anti-Israel sentiments.

And yeah, no shit children in Gaza are getting radicalized when they are regularly carted off to „summer camps“ in which they get hold and train with fire-arms and be taught that dying a shahid is the greatest honor one can achieve in this life. What the hell are we even arguing about here?!

[…]Like why do all your arguments break down when we look at the West Bank?

Because the PA might be a ultra-nationalist, rather corrupt governing body with no love for Israel but they aren’t religious fanatics who would sacrifice every last one of their people just so they might destroy Israel or why do you think they even coordinate raids on Jenin, the biggest center of Hamas activity in the Westbank, with the IDF? Even Fatah hates those batshit crazy jihadists some people in the West cheer on as „resistance fighters“.

Yes, i have spoken with several Palestinians over the years. Most diaspora-Palestinians were at first very reserved since i often was the first Jew they ever met and on top of that i even said i am a Zionist, so the enemy in their heads. Turns out they usually agreed on almost all points funny enough. Concerning interviews of Palestinians, it was a wide range of opinions. The dismantlement of Israel, or atleast the „Jewish“ part of it, either Muslims and Jews living side by side or Jews being expected to go. The unapologetic destruction of either just Israel, Jews and „traitor“ Arabs alike, or in following steps all Jews and then at later points the islamification of all the world (that would be the Hamas supporters i assume).

But also Palestinians who stated they just want a end to the violence, Jews get their state, Palestinians their own and that’s it for the time being, letting generational wounds heal for a while, building a house, raising families without fear of bullets or rockets and all that. And i think that’s a lovely opinion to have, which i would the closest to if i am being honest.

I never said or even thought that Palestinians are „mindless automations“. Just because a national identity leans towards something doesn’t mean that all who identify with it share every single point. Just like Jews and every other people Palestinians are individuals first after all.

Have you read the founding charta of Hamas? Have you read or seen what Hamas and yes, sadly also unaffiliated civilian combatants from Gaza, did to Israelis on Oct7th? The sheer uncontrolled violence on that day? Have you seen people cheering in the streets, not just in Gaza but also London, Paris and Berlin? How people danced and gave out candy?

Where is „antisemites want to murder all Jews“ a stereotype when people have orgsnization that literally state this goal?!

This isn’t even inherently a Palestinian thing, this is a global problem of the fetishization of violence in the name of „revolution“, of emboldened antisemitism, of a disproportinate demonization of the state of Israel and all its people. Extremist views all around world are on the rise and get whitewashed and glorified by those who are barely affected by it, for now atleast.