Flight Numbering?
Posted by Begrudgingly_Waluigi@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 15 comments
Is there a rhyme or reason behind the flight numbers? They seem completely arbitrary, even different number of digits. (WN 2484, 178, 2249 are all LAX-SMF). I thought it might be related to crew or aircraft schedules, like one crew works a multi leg piece of work under the same number (WN 178 is ABQ-LAX-SMF), but that idea was squashed when my connecting flight was coincidentally on the same plane with the same cockpit and cabin crew.
I’m sure different airlines have different theories, I’m wondering about Southwest but I’d love to hear about other carriers!
britishmetric144@reddit
Most airlines use some variant of this system.
mmaalex@reddit
This. Theres also some flights that are numbered as a fun message like AA1776 BOS-PHL (In 1776 a certain event in BOS kicked off a response in PHL), and some flight numbers that are retired due to past incidents.
Every airline has their own scheme, but most US airlines follow these general rules.
FlyingSceptile@reddit
I’m thirsty. I could use some tea (looks towards Boston Harbor).
A lot of spectral numbers though. 777 usually is to/from Vegas (think slot machines), some airlines use area codes as their number to a city (Alaska 412 to PIT comes to mind). Always fun to see those in the wild
AdIcy1690@reddit
Turkish airlines’ flight from Istanbul to Thessaloniki is TK1881, since Ataturk, the founder of the Turkish republic was born in Thessaloniki in 1881. Pretty cool fact imo
MaddingtonBear@reddit
Some airlines will have little systems, but it's usually fairly random. Couple of examples - United 8xx are transpacific flights; UA 9xx are transatlantic (international flights under 200 were legacy Continental numbers). For a while Delta at JFK was mostly adhering to a system where 2xx or 2xxx was a Terminal 2 flight and 4xx was a Terminal 4 flight.
Internationally, Emirates uses the first digit by region - 0-199 is Europe, 2xx is the Americas, 3xx is Asia, 4xx to Australia, 5xx is India, 6xx is the rest of the Subcontinent, 7xx is Africa, 8xx is GCC, 9xx is the rest of the Middle East (might be some edge cases I'm not remembering). Even flights go east, odd flights to the west.
And then sometimes you have one-offs for certain destinations (lots of xx711 into Las Vegas, xx1776 to Philadelphia, etc...)
Flat_Championship548@reddit
My favorite from that last category was AA1492 from DFW to Columbus.
Legitimate-Royal3540@reddit
The first KLM flight, from London to Amsterdam in 1920, had flightnr 100. The flight from AMS to London was nr 101. I believe these numbers are still in use. Possibly the worlds oldest flightnr.
BRUNO358@reddit
Think of it like the numbers for public transit lines, just more complex. For example, in my city the bus routes are generally single or double digit for the inner city while triple digits are reserved for more niche/specialized routes. We just added the 500 which is a direct nonstop connection from downtown to IAH, comes every half hour and is $4.50 each way.
saimen54@reddit
LH has a flight LH2222 from Munich to Toulouse.
"Flight Lufthansa two two two two to Toulouse" 😄
It also starts in Terminal 2.
jakerepp15@reddit
Probably doesn't have the same inpact in German or French though
saimen54@reddit
In Munich the flight is announced in German and English. Of course English is way funnier.
BandicootOnly4598@reddit
American puts low numbers on very important or historical routes; AA 1 is a daily JFK - LAX, and has operated that route (or the reverse) for nearly a century. Incidentally, AA 2 is the reverse of that. 9xxx is typically repositioning or maintenance at most airlines; high thousands are regionals, and everything else just kinda is what it is.
I’ve noticed that United in particular will sustain flight numbers for a very long time, such that regulars start learning them. United 689 is the late night Dulles - Orlando run, and has been for a hot minute, across multiple types that have flown it over the years.
IncapableKakistocrat@reddit
Qantas has a fairly solid system - though it does seem to be changing slightly as they rejig some of their routes with the big fleet refresh that's underway.
QF1-199 are used for international flights, odd numbers depart Australia and even numbers are returning flights. Lower numbers tend to be used flagship ultra-long haul routes (e.g. QF1/2 is used for Sydney-London; QF3/4 is Sydney-New York; QF5/6 is Perth-Rome, etc.)
QF400-1399 are domestic flights (and some QantasLink flights)
QF1400-1499 and QF2000-2899 are QantasLink Dash 8 Flights
QF1500-1999 are QantasLink flights using jets
QF200-299 are Jetstar operated codeshares.
Codeshares operated by other international airlines are from QF3000 and higher.
RobThree03@reddit
Not really. At one point back in the late 90s Continental asked their employees for suggestions about numbers related to their cities to tie to flight numbers. 777 or 711 for Vegas, 1776 for Philadelphia, 1492 for CMH. I don’t recall if there were any others that were changed. Otherwise odd numbers are for flights that terminate west of their origin station, and even for eastbound. 30xx are charters. Regional airline operated flights usually have high numbers eg 35xx-70xx.
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