ULPT: If you don’t like someone sign them up to get info from this website. They will call 100+ times a day and never take them off the call list.

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MouthwashProphet@reddit

This happened to me recently. It's beyond infuriating.

My mother thought she'd be doing me a favor by submitting my phone number to some random health insurance quote site. I literally started getting calls within 10 seconds, and they didn't stop for weeks.

At its worst, I counted 78 calls in 48 hours. No exaggeration.

Eventually I realized they weren't going to stop, so I started fucking with them & trolling the ever living shit out of every agent that called me. Some of them just hung up, but most would lose their minds (I recorded a lot of the calls and sent them to my friends, and they encouraged me to keep doing it).

I DID figure out how to make them stop though!

On the 3rd week or so, I started submitting the numbers they were calling from to the same health insurance quote site that my number was submitted to, like some sort of hellish telecommunications loop.

Within a few days, the calls stopped for the most part.

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Quixel@reddit

When I worked in call center software, we once had a debt collection customer that had a disgruntled customer who did something similar to this but even more devious.

He called into their call center either multiple lines, and when the calls got agents, he conferenced them together. He was likely using speech detection to do it.

It would go like this:

Agent 1: Thank you for calling Debt Collection Co. How can I help you?

Agent 2: Thank you for calling Debt Collection Co. How can I help you?

Agent 1: Yes, this is Debt Collection Co. can I get your name please?

Agent 2: Yes, you have reached Debt Collection Co. my name is Brian. How may I help you today?

Agent 1: What.

I was so happy. It was hilarious.

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bttrmilkbizkits@reddit

This scenario was an episode of Crank Yankers….just sub the businesses for pizza delivery

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Inevitable_Ride_3698@reddit

Man, I forgot all about that show. But now I can vividly remember that episode. It was hilarious

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bttrmilkbizkits@reddit

It was great

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HolidayFew8116@reddit

reverse uno

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jimmybilly100@reddit

right click, download gif

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CrashCalamity@reddit

Somehow I get saved to the comment maker's computer

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MouthwashProphet@reddit

I tend to see it as an ethical life pro-tip in that situation.

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Maleficent-Big-4778@reddit

Indeed!

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dianabowl@reddit

I actually have a separate email and phone number I use with my mother because she never fails to sign me up or expose my email to random sites despite me pleading for her not to.

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imlulz@reddit

I can’t imagine this. I mean I believe you, but what is she signing you up for?

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dianabowl@reddit

Health newsletters that have an email field to sign up for more info on some miracle supplement she read about, or she'll use the share this button on news articles instead of emailing me a link directly.

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shirleysimpnumba1@reddit

you email your mom?

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pixelated_fun@reddit

Oh shit! So they harvest those phone numbers and emails when you hit the share link?

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Lucky-Elk-1234@reddit

Mate basically every box you put your email address or phone number into on the internet is harvesting it for spamming. If you’re very lucky it will only be that company that sends you emails and texts, but it’s likely that you’ll be added to a list and sold/leaked at some point to loads of spammers.

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Quirky_Drawer_2865@reddit

Samsies

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DrinkingBuddy22@reddit

But like how do they know it's you that submitted their numbers? Are those caller IDs specific to just your phone?

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Tyzorg@reddit

How would they know it was you that did so.. and then stop calling you as a result? Not being a smart ass I'm legit asking.

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cuberhino@reddit

Omg genius, I’m sending all the spam callers to hell now

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vehicularimpediment@reddit

FYI Lots of times spam calls will come from spoofed numbers that actually belong to someone else. So you'd possibly be sending an innocent third party to hell.

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UnaZephyr@reddit

Ive had my own phone number call me before, and it was a spam/scam call.

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NicolasMage69@reddit

Yeah man some of them are so good they'll spoof the same area code as you and even one of a local business.

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Natharcalis@reddit

Good reason to get a number in another state. Got my number while out of state and whenever I see that area code I know it's spam.

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beatenangels@reddit

I wouldn't say some of them I'd say most. 90%+ off my spams calls come from the area code the phone was registered under. It's immediately a tipoff that it is a spam call especially after I moved out of that area.

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MouthwashProphet@reddit

I just wanted to add that these health insurance calls came from actual business lines - before I started with the feedback loop, most of the representatives would let me know that I could call them back at the numbers they called me from.

With the random spam/scam call you get throughout the day, however? Yeah, they’re probably spoofed numbers.

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cuberhino@reddit

Damn ok. Any way to check numbers for this before I send them to hell?

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Filamcouple@reddit

https://www.fastpeoplesearch.com/

Try this.

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vehicularimpediment@reddit

Not that I know of, unfortunately.

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allthegodsaregone@reddit

Google them, often the true spam will come up with reviews of some kind

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HalcyoneDays@reddit

This is genius. I'm gonna start submitting telemarketers that call me to this

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TheGuyThatThisIs@reddit

The calls just stop after a while.

They use spoofed numbers.

You signed up the real people who have those numbers up for this phone spam.

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vickyizbeast@reddit

Oh that’s a good one…

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cleopatra4president@reddit

Genius

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ButterscotchNo7292@reddit

The last sentence is pure evil!:))) love it!

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NeetDaimyo@reddit

Health insurance quote infinite recursion

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ACboeing787@reddit

Could probably create a state by state / province by province directory of numbers people can use to sign up these pests. Great idea!

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AriBee22@reddit

This is awesome😂😂

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FakeAsFakeCanBe@reddit

I only answer calls that have the contact name displayed. Friends or legitimate callers will leave a msg. or text.

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jamielandon@reddit

Username checks out 🙄

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

Ok cool

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RipeBanana4475@reddit

My old, slumlord, landlord wants insurance I think.

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TsarFate@reddit

Lmao i just did the same thing. To bad i can't see his reaction

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Far_Gap_7734@reddit

Pffftt... Current here..

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Malteser23@reddit

You read my mind!

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african-nightmare@reddit

Just did the same 🤣

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Bananabean041@reddit

Scientology! There’s your revenge

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ghostwritten-girl@reddit

I don't see anything on their website to sign up. Can you share more about this please?

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Bananabean041@reddit

Sorry but I can’t seem to copy the url. I just googled sign up for Scientology and their Contact Us page comes right up

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Ill_Establishment406@reddit

I “joined” when I was in college. It was for a class on religion and we had to do a semester studying a religion and write a paper on it/present it. This was 1999. My professor said I’d never get in so I joined the cult. Cost actual money to join but it was fascinating (I was raised atheist) to be involved in organized religion. I also did this with Mormons. Another insane group.

For YEARS I got harassing mail and calls from the Church of Scientology. I changed my phone number and moved and they followed me. They are relentless.

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MGA76@reddit

I have been looking for something like this for the people who nail vague signs for their business to telephone poles. “Deck Repair 123-456-7890”

Caught one of them putting up a sign at 2 am with an extension ladder and a flashlight on my way home from work, obviously knowing they’re up to no good.

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GrdnLovingGoatFarmer@reddit

This happened to me years ago, except it was the official healthcare.gov website. Some dude entered my number instead of his and I got hundreds of calls a day. The calls eventually stopped but I still get texts occasionally. What a PITA!

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SmashTC1@reddit

Thanks, king

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shirleysimpnumba1@reddit

aren't there laws against this type of things

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Hidingjimmy@reddit

It took some effort on my part but I finally found a site that promised to call right away. Thank you!

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_CorpusDelicti_@reddit

gimme the link 😈

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FarquaadsFuckDoll@reddit

So congress members have telephones…

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ththrowrowawayway@reddit

And the ones who support legislation that allows this kind of predatory business practice should be at the top of the list

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MouthwashProphet@reddit

They do, but generally speaking the numbers that are public are for their offices.

I know that the congresspeople most deserving of 500 health insurance calls per week are also the congresspeople least likely to listen to their constituents, but having these lines open & available to the public is a good thing. Spamming these numbers to telemarketers will accomplish nothing but contributing to a full voicemail box & disconnected office lines.

Now, if you have their personal cell phone numbers on the other hand...

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KpopSniper_97@reddit

wait youre totally right about this. like jamming up congressional office lines just hurts the staffers who actually answer constituent calls (and theyre probably underpaid anyway). but lol the way you ended that comment... personal cell numbers would be a whole different story

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dopeyonecanibe@reddit

I’d like to add that it wouldn’t affect the congressperson at all, but would make the person who answers their office phone’s work life pretty shitty (or shittier than it already is cause congressperson)

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MidnightNo1766@reddit

One generally doesn't become congressional staff unless they espouse most of the same views do fuck them too.

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dopeyonecanibe@reddit

Hmm, I didn’t consider that. So when a new congressperson is elected do they bring in their own receptionist?

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MidnightNo1766@reddit

It's very common to staff your congressional office with people from your district (such as up and coming college students, particularly as an intern) and for the ones involved in policy, they absolutely want someone who is like-minded.

It's obviously not 100% across the board but it's a very common thing.

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dopeyonecanibe@reddit

Interesting, definitely puts a new perspective on the situation. Thank you for that tidbit!

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anon67543@reddit

True. Some already treat constituents as spam calls, so giving them real spam calls will push real issues even further down the queue

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hobobirdtx@reddit

Those abortion, dei, etc. tip lines they like to set up also have phone numbers.

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Kozak170@reddit

I hope you’ll feel real good about making a bunch of comparatively (for DC) minimum wage staffers lives suck more

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anynameisfinejeez@reddit

That is an interesting new piece of information.

Thank you for sharing.

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MotherOfVoidsOF@reddit

I think my ex husband did this to me after I told him to stop drinking and driving with our kids in the car. Yeah, he's a total POS. But now I know how to return the favor!

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goingfrank@reddit

Is it a blood donation center? Because they never leave you alone either

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

No health insurance info

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joy030@reddit

Wish this would work in germany

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Final_Curve939@reddit

Please guys something like that for Germany

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tristanbobistan@reddit

its pretty easy to sue these folks. i got $3k. you're entitled to $1500 per unsolicited text or phone call (so long as you're on the do not call registry @ ftc.gov - if you're not on the registry, get on it, cause you only get 500 per text of phone call if you're not on it) - ya its super easy to sue. the way you can prove their identity is pretend that you are interested in whatever bullshit they are selling and give them a card that does not work in the end. when they try to use that card, you will have captured the attempted transaction which is enough to sue. i went thru a lawyer which i regret doing cause i could have done it myself. you might want to check out donotpay.com they have a service called robo-revenge which kind of automates this whole process for you.

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Deep_Recover7541@reddit

Lmfao… this definitely works. Ex best friend called me saying she has over 60 calls!😂😂😂

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dangerzone117@reddit

Did this to a person I know in canada. I should know if it worked pretty soon

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azninvasion2002@reddit

If you are really petty and want to mess with someone, make an order for Dianetics and a donation of $20 to scientology.

They will be bombarded for years.

I hate scientology but they come in handy for petty people like myself sometimes

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Worthy-Of-Dignity@reddit

Extremely interested in this! Can you say a bit more about how to do this?

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DirtRoadDaughter@reddit

Just did this to current bf tbh. Lol. Thanks.

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

What did he do?! lol I need the story!!

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DirtRoadDaughter@reddit

It doesn’t work

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

Try it during work hours.

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blessedbethefruit4@reddit

thank you for your service 🫡

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ComplexTemporary4152@reddit

Just order a yard of gravel to be delivered to their driveway. I've done it twice, dirt yards don't gaf

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picklemechburger@reddit

What's this gravel delivery you speak of? Someone I know is curious.

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ComplexTemporary4152@reddit

Dirt yards, drop by and pay cash for them to drop off a cubic yard of gravel or sand on to "your" driveway for a flowerbed project.

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dangerzone117@reddit

Did this to a co-worker in canada. I will know in a few days if it works

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Ophelias_Muse@reddit

Is this based in America?

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tired_vegetable@reddit

Does anyone have examples that WORK in europe?

I always see this tip but no actual websites :(

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m1stak3@reddit

Sign up the office numbers for senators and members of congress. Watch how fast that company gets raided...

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AdRegular1647@reddit

I like the way that you think! Lol

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toolsavvy@reddit

fake story

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

Try it nerd

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toolsavvy@reddit

fake story

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

Give me your phone number and see how fake it is.

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toolsavvy@reddit

1FA-KES-TORY

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rkim777@reddit

When you talk to a live person who calls you, is it from a different country than the USA? I mess with them and have been experimenting with something that's borderline evil (according to others who I told about this).

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

Nope they all sound very American.

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MouthwashProphet@reddit

No, when it happened to me, every agent sounded like a 20-something American.

Judging by their reaction to being trolled, however, I suspect they deal with people doing borderline evil shit to them on a daily basis. They know they're hated, and they deserve whatever you have in mind.

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rkim777@reddit

I don't know if what I'm now doing is reducing the number of spam calls I get (yet) but it seems to change the way they treat my phone number.

I used to get a recorded voice asking me qualifying questions that transfer me to a live person speaking with a foreign accent if I gave the correct qualifying answers. With my new tactic, the recorded voice often transfers me to a disconnected phone number instead of a live person. I think it's because of how I now handle their live people. I want to keep getting these calls to keep experimenting with this. This is fascinating.

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MangeurDeCowan@reddit

What exactly are you saying to them?

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rkim777@reddit

What exactly are you saying to them?

I use my knowledge of their religious beliefs to try to persuade them to leave this world with the promise that they will be blessed with abundance in the next world. Some of them get very agitated, like one I spoke with today.

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MangeurDeCowan@reddit

This is hilarious. You have my full support and upvote.

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BaconGristle@reddit

I bet they're all victims of MLM insurance company scams. Both my fiance and my sister almost got caught up in this crap because they asked friends for job advice and recruiters came out of the woodwork to sell them on how easy it is to become an agent and make amazing money from home.

Fucking parasites.

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T-unitz@reddit

What’s the website?

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

It’s literally in the post

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T-unitz@reddit

Oh shit haha, my bad I just saw it finally lll.

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KpopSniper_97@reddit

so this is like when someone writes malicious code but for telemarketing lol. the scam insurance sites are basically running a denial of service attack on your phone. fighting fire with fire makes sense here... though part of me wonders if theres a way to automate blocking these numbers instead of creating more chaos

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DJSimmer305@reddit

FYI, the reason this happens is because you’re not just getting calls from people who work for that website. In fact, I doubt anyone who actually sells insurance does.

When you use that site and ones similar to it to search for health plans, they take the info you put in and sell it to dozens of different sales people and agencies.

So even if you do happen to get on the phone with someone nice who takes you off of their calling list, that does nothing for the hundreds of other people who have your info.

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FakeAsFakeCanBe@reddit

They should have someone to help, such as an insurance broker that can give you a quote on insurance from many insurance companies (and the exclusions). Many charge the Insurance Provider for the referral and you pay nothing. Such as a mortgage broker does.

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TheySayImZack@reddit

This happened to me once when I was just curious about solar for the house. Went to a website and plugged in my landline # that we don’t answer and the calls started within 30 mins and didn’t stop for weeks. One solar guy even somehow found my address and stalked me so that he’d catch me outside for the sales pitch when my kids got off the school bus.

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FakeAsFakeCanBe@reddit

Scary shit!

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Amplith@reddit

You have to call them…how did that work?

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

No I was googling for health insurance information and I came across this site, I gave them my email and phone number but after I spoke to them I was like cool, thanks but I’m not making any decisions today and the kids got super mad. I just hung up and they proceeded to call me over 100 times that day.

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reddituser6835@reddit

I am wondering how signing up others caused any reduction in calls to you?

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

Because they are calling other people. How are you this dumb?

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60sStratLover@reddit

Why not just block the number?

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

That’s genius! I’d never even thought of that!!! You are so smart! Lmaoooo maybe because they spoof numbers and call from a different one every time.

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60sStratLover@reddit

User name fits

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

Why did you delete your comment? You think I’m gonna be dead soon? Guess what hoe I beat cancer and I’d beat you too. If you’re going to say shitty things say with your whole chest coward.

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

That would have been so funny I’m 2016!!

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60sStratLover@reddit

Well, looks like you’ll be dead soon, but good luck with shitty personality

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Disc-Snow@reddit

Fun fact. Years ago I had a coworker that I thought I was good friends with. I’d give her rides home any time we worked together, her house was on my way home. A couple years into this she invites me up to her place in a round about way. I was tired and picked up on that fact later. This friend also was in charge of assigning sections at the restaurant we worked in. I went from making hundreds a night to maybe 40 a night. Just signed her up for this. Best served cold.

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Mental-Vegetable3701@reddit

Lol what's the website ?

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

It’s in the post, can you not read?

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Fabulous-Educator447@reddit

Asking for a friend, is that address with a - or without? I had my finger on the button but I worry it could be traced to me and it would be bad for a pending legal case. What a debate

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

Send me the number and I’ll do it. It’s a call center not the CIA.

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eliktroniq@reddit

Buy a used laptop/phone/tablet, use it on public wifi, erase afterward

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Fabulous-Educator447@reddit

I worry more about my IP being traced somehow to my state, which would be a dead giveaway. I’m tucking this away for when I’m on the road 👍👍

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oisiiuso@reddit

vpn bro

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Fabulous-Educator447@reddit

I’m a GenX get off my lawn aged dumbass and I don’t really even know what that is.

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OkBrilliant8092@reddit

This is awesome - I need something like this for UK ;)

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becca7777@reddit

Plssss

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That_Calligrapher869@reddit

Did we all just type in 90210 for the postcode then?

I thought I got away with it until it asked for the actual number.

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Peachysum68722@reddit

100%

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06p087@reddit

Following 👀

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Joshooaahweb@reddit

Also keeping tabs on UK alternatives

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CreepaPlays@reddit

Just signed up my old shitty boss up for it thanks.

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Leofleo@reddit

I'd do the same, but the phukr got demoted because he never stopped being shitty after I left.

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Trickassfoo@reddit

I wonder how they're all doing right now 😄

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WhlteMlrror@reddit

Does this work internationally?

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Mr_Original_II@reddit

I made this mistake more than a year ago. I still get up to a dozen calls or texts a day from them.

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dangerzone117@reddit

At that point, why don't u change your number?

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MouthwashProphet@reddit

Pro-tip: register your number on the national do not call list (or re-register if you already did so at some point).

It takes 30 days from the request to remove your number from these databases, but it should drastically cut down on the calls you receive. I can't imagine having to go through that bullshit for over a year - it made me nearly lose my mind after just a couple months of it.

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PS3ForTheLoss@reddit

Or help them convert to Google Voice. Same spam calls, without the spam-register hassle!

Google takes care of spam-register for you.

I'm just fretting because of periodic local-number spoof calls that state a business under me is not registered so to press a key and speak to a live representative for assistance. A recent regularity!

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JazzFan1998@reddit

Is there any way to trace where the info came fro.? (Like an IP Address etc.)

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

I mean yeah but this are bottom tier telemarketers not the CIA.

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JazzFan1998@reddit

I meant trace that someone (like you) gave these "bottom tier" marketers some else's information.

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

And I answered your question, or course they can. What was unclear?

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TheNipplerCrippler@reddit

Username is accurate

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

Man that joke would have been fire in 2016!!!

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Constant_Presence940@reddit

Well done. Gold star ⭐️

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monkiram@reddit

I’m pretty sure they’re asking if the prankee has a way of finding out if which IP address gave their number to the telemarketer, not the telemarketer themself

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

No fucking shit Sherlock

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dirtymoney@reddit

Use a VPN? Or have someone on reddit who has a vpn do it for you

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RespectfullyBitter@reddit

Go use a computer at the library and pull up the duck duck go browser to access the site. Clear it afterwards.

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merc123@reddit

Of course.

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WhyWontThisWork@reddit

How would they know it was you submitting their numbers?

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monkiram@reddit

My understanding was that they got so many new numbers inquiring that they didn’t have time to keep calling the same people over and over daily. I don’t think they knew who was submitting them

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WhyWontThisWork@reddit

I'm sure they have an auto dialer

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ExtendedArmGesture@reddit

Yeah that part is weird

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Prudent_Finance_244@reddit

So um. If I wanted to sign up for a super psycho ex friend for this list, how would I do so? First time for me, lol

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

Go to the website and fill out the information

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shoobawatermelon@reddit

How did you signing them up for a bunch of stuff get them to stop calling you?

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Kinda_cunty@reddit (OP)

Because they’re calling other people, I’m starting to worry about some of you all. Like how do you function in real life being this slow?

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PoolMotosBowling@reddit

Meh, Pixel call screening. Never even see it.

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NovelTAcct@reddit

Freewill.com (offers a packet of documents for writing your last will and testament) called me 10-15 times a year for four years despite me constantly telling them to stop, and did not stop until I reported them to the FCC. I recommend.

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Trickassfoo@reddit

This is hilarious, I just signed up 3 idiots in my cul-de-sac while im in the airport heading out on vacation 🤣

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gabbbbaayy@reddit

It’s illegal draft a demand letter and get that bag! Answer and document all the times they call, times you’ve asked to be removed. Ask them if they keep client notes everytime they speak to you and ask for the transcripts. Additionally ask for their corporate address, phone number, fax, email, manager, supervisor, ceo literally anything you can get and send it out certified so there’s proof they received the demand. And report it to the FCC you can get up to $500- $1500 per illegal phone call

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thrftybstrd@reddit

does blocking the number not help?

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MouthwashProphet@reddit

No. As another comment pointed out, when you give your number to this site, it instantly appears in the database of dozens/hundreds of insurance salesmen, and there's no way to instantly remove yourself from it.

You'll be able to block each individual salesman, but that won't stop the next one from calling.

The only thing you can do is register your number on the national "do not call" list (which takes 30 days to kick in), and continuously block every number that calls you.

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thrftybstrd@reddit

Missed that comment, thanks for filling me in.

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reddituser6835@reddit

I would guess that like most companies like this, they use many numbers

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CttCJim@reddit

Someone tell kitboga. He'll destroy them.

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dirtymoney@reddit

To get them to stop.... renove your voicemail greeting and and answer the phone pretending to be the desk clerk of a police station.

I had to do this to get scammmers to stop callinh me 30 times a day for over two months. And it worked when nothing else would

Be sure to act professional like a police station phone answerimg operator would.

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Scared-Hope-868@reddit

I have a phone with an old area code number. Whenever someone calls from the old area code, I know it's a scam since I haven't lived there in 15 years, and I know all the legit numbers that call me.

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Pophavinfun@reddit

Neighbor had to change number because scammer used it. 3 months of hell

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WhysTheUsernameGone@reddit

If OP or anyone else has other websites that do something like this, please let me know. Thanks!

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ChrisCalifornia97@reddit

I made the mistake of requesting a Kelly Blue Book price for what they’d pay for my car. That resulted in bout 100 combined calls from 5 different dealerships

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Macster_man@reddit

my sister is going to HATE me!

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BJntheRV@reddit

Healthcare.com is the one that got me. My phone rang non-stop for the first few days. 8 years later I still get an uptick in calls during open enrollment. The funny thing was the one person I actually talked to said they couldn't help me (because pre-existing conditions) and I should look at the ACA - which was my intent

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