We are deeply saddened to hear the news that Major Maciej “SLAB” Krakowian, pilot of the Polish F-16 Tiger Demo Team, lost his life this afternoon during a rehearsal for the Radom Airshow. Our thoughts are with his family, friends and colleagues.
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Dry-Marketing-6798@reddit
I don't know what happenend. Maybe you thought you were ok and could make it out the loop. Maybe there was a fault with the plane. Who knows. RIP ❤️
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
This kind of mistake is unfortunately the most common way that jets crash at airshows. The last blue angel that died crashed exactly like this. Every single time this accident happens, the cause is because they didn’t set their altimeter properly.
AdAdministrative5330@reddit
get the f outta here. There's no way mil pilots are forgetting to set the altimeter
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
It has literally happened more than once. Why do you think it’s impossible for a military pilot to make a mistake? This guy is dead. What more proof do you need?
AdAdministrative5330@reddit
Maybe it's personal incredulity, maybe it's just a major checklist item that is impossible to skip unless you're actually retarded or don't give a damn about being a professional.
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
This guy is literally dead. What more proof do you need?
This mishap was 100% pilot error. He forgot to put in the field altimeter setting.
What experience do you have with aviation if you think mistakes are impossible?
Serious people don’t use that word. Only clowns.
AdAdministrative5330@reddit
It's practically impossible unless you're some kind of yokle with a private pilot's license. There must be another cause, because not setting the local altimeter is highly implausible - especially for IFR or aerobatics.
Obviuosly mistakes are possible, but not setting local altimeter is like an F-16 doing a gear up landing.
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
I literally just linked you a photo of a mishap where an experienced thunderbird pilot did exactly that. The last fatal blue angle mishap was caused by a similar mistake.
Wrong. It’s way easier to miss than that. Again, it’s literally happened more than once. Why are you ignorantly dying on this hill? What’s your aviation experience?
AdAdministrative5330@reddit
I'd like a link not to Reddit, but to the actual NTSB factual report. I'm an expert aviator, there's no way I'd miss a checklist item like this.
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
No one who’s actually a pilot would ever say “there’s no way I could ever miss something. You are not a pilot.
“Wednesday the 21st, the Air Force Accident Investigation Board held a news conference at the home of the Thunderbirds - Nellis Air Force Base - to announce what caused an F16 to crash last September.
According to the accident investigation board report the pilot, 31-year-old Captain Chris Stricklin, misinterpreted the altitude required to complete the "Split S" maneuver. He made his calculation based on an incorrect mean-sea-level altitude of the airfield. The pilot incorrectly climbed to 1,670 feet above ground level instead of 2,500 feet before initiating the pull down to the Split S maneuver.
When he realized something was wrong, the pilot put maximum back stick pressure and rolled slightly left to ensure the aircraft would impact away from the crowd should he have to eject. He ejected when the aircraft was 140 feet above ground - just 0.8 seconds prior to impact. He sustained only minor injuries from the ejection. There was no other damage to military or civilian property.
The aircraft, valued at about $20.4 million, was destroyed.
The difference in altitudes at Nellis and Mountain Home may have contributed to the pilot's error. The airfield at Nellis is at 2,000 feet whereas the one at Mountain Home is at 3,000 feet. It appears that the pilot reverted back to his Nellis habit pattern for s aplit second. Thunderbird commander Lt. Col. Richard McSpadden said Stricklin had performed the stunt around 200 times, at different altitudes during his year as a Thunderbird pilot.
McSpadden says Stricklin is an exceptional officer. "He is an extremely talented pilot. He came in here and made an honest mistake," says Lt. Col. McSpadden. But that mistake has cost Stricklin his prestigious spot on the Thunderbird team. "He's assigned to Washington D.C.," says McSpadden. "He's working in the Pentagon there in one of the agencies."
The maneuver the pilot was trying to complete is called the "Split S Maneuver." The stunt requires that the pilot climb to 2,500 feet. Investigators say Stricklin only climbed to 1,670 feet before he went into the spinning roll.
The board determined other factors substantially contributed to creating the opportunity for the error including the requirement to convert sea level altitude information from the F-16 instruments - to their altitude above ground and call out that information to a safety operator below.
But the Air Force has now changed that as a result of the crash. Thunderbird pilots will now call out the MSL (mean-sea-level) altitudes as opposed to the AGL (above-ground-level) altitudes.
Thunderbird pilots will now also climb an extra 1000 feet before performing the Split S Maneuver to prevent another mistake like the one on Sep.14, 2003 from happening again.
Captain Chris Stricklin has been in the Air Force since 1994 and flew with the Thunderbirds for the first season now. He has logged a total of 1,500+ flight hours and has received numerous awards. He served as a flight examiner, flight instructor and flight commander.
The Thunderbirds will again take to the skies this year. They have 65 air shows scheduled.
The September crash was the second involving a Thunderbirds jet since the team began using F-16s in 1983.
Pilot error was blamed for a Feb. 14, 1994, training crash involving in a maneuver called a spiral descent at the Indian Springs Auxiliary Airfield, northwest of Las Vegas. The pilot survived, but the maneuver was discontinued.
The worst crash in Thunderbird history, dubbed the "Diamond Crash," came when four pilots crashed Jan. 18, 1982, during training at Indian Springs. A malfunction in the lead plane was blamed.”
AdAdministrative5330@reddit
This is adding nuance. Setting the local pressure is completely different from calculating AGL from MSL. But I stand my my point, simply forgetting to set the altimeter is impossible because professionals must use checklists and setting altimeter is always part of the checklist before departure, enroute, and arrival, especially IFR.
Sure, us pilots are human and can make mistakes, like putting in the wrong pressure setting by accident, but simply forgetting to run through the checklists is impossible.
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
No, that’s you not understanding what you’re reading. The procedure is to set the altimeter to read 0 ft on the runway. He didn’t do that.
Then you’re out of your element because when you’re doing aerobatics in jets, MSL is the only reliable altitude reading you have. What do you fly? Are you a student or something?
No actual pilot has ever uttered the phrase “it’s impossible to miss a checklist item.” Tell me what you fly. And for how long.
Why are you talking about “entire checklists” now? We’re talking about one single item.
Regardless, this guy was the most experienced airshow pilot in US history and he died because he didn’t do a before takeoff checklist.
So how much longer do you have before your first solo?
AdAdministrative5330@reddit
OK, that must be a special procedure for aerobatics. I don't do that, so I have no idea, but if it's in a checklist, and you don't do the checklist, you're a reckless imbecile.
No, you're not understanding, AGL is what you care about for avoiding terrain. I care about my absolute hight above a tower or mountain - which makes sense that aerobatic routines would set their altimeter to zero. It's nuanced, but you can learn more about it if you wish, there are like 4 types of altitudes.
Checklists are written in blood. That's why there are tools to literally "check off" each item, either by pressing a button, or calling it out to your other flight crew. It's virtually impossible to just "skip" an item.
Well, if that's actually what happened, the guy skipped a checklist item, then he's a fucking retard and got complacent and unprofessional.
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
Why do you keep conflating “doing an entire checklist” with missing one single item?
I’m a former fighter pilot. I don’t need to “learn more about it.”
So when is your first solo? Why aren’t you answering that?
Well you have less than 10 hours so you simply haven’t had enough time in airplanes to ever miss a checklist item.
AdAdministrative5330@reddit
Maybe it's personal incredulity. I just have never skipped a checklist item because I literally push a button to check it off. I can't imagine US part 121 carrier guys forgetting a checklist item - ever. I mean, yeah, the more time you fly, statistically the chances go up. But after thousands of hours, I've never simply forgotten a checklist item - especially when flying with passengers.
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
Stop dodging. How much flight time do you have? “Push button checklist” screams PPL… So ALL of these advanced operations are totally foreign to you.
blucke@reddit
Was agreeing with you, but him dying isn’t proof when you are arguing the cause of the crash
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
I wasn’t unconscious, so it’s 100% pilot error. There’s literally nothing else it can be.
blucke@reddit
Maybe, but saying this with such certainty in the immediate wake of the crash when all we have are videos is shortsighted
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
Not when this isn’t my first rodeo. There is no conceivable mechanical error that can lead to this. He was obviously conscious. That only leaves pilot error. This isn’t complicated.
Expensive_Dig_6695@reddit
To err is human… that is why there are checklists.
AdAdministrative5330@reddit
Exactly
rhineauto@reddit
That's not what happened with the last Blue Angel crash, though. The report said that even if the altimeter hadn't been set properly, the displayed altitude would have still been too low to execute the maneuver. He was also travelling too fast, with afterburners on.
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
He screwed up more than one thing, but if he had switched his altimeter properly, he wouldn’t have died. That’s the single biggest mistake he made.
We can get really technical but the reason they’re supposed to come out of afterburner is because the recovery from this maneuver isn’t supposed to be anywhere near max performance. It’s supposed to be a moderate pull, with the aircraft accelerating towards the show line.
Now in his case, he needed to be doing a max performance pull, with full afterburner to maximize pitch rate and minimize time spent nose-low.
So don’t confuse what reports like that are for. They list everything he did wrong. They do not pontificate on ways he could have salvaged it.
So if he has changed nothing else, but had his altimeter switched properly, he would have cleared the ground. He would have shit his pants, but he’d be alive. That 300 foot difference sealed his fate.
Timely-Annual-1673@reddit
The altimeter set was not likely the issue for such an experienced pilot. He has done this same routine at various air shows for some time now and it is fierce. He seems to have had a short g-loc/throttle lock at the highest point of this loop, causing a very slight delay in descent and due to the whole manoeuvre having the afterburners on, his accelaration continues through that flattening delay, just that small bit too far for him to have the height to recover. He will surely have known he was not going to make it at some point on the way down, but just kept making the effort. A thrilling pilot and a deeply saddening accident. Rest in peace Slab. You will be remembered.
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
How can you say that? That is what this entire maneuver is predicated on…
That is nonsense. This is not a high-g maneuver. Especially at the top of the loop. It is obvious to anyone who has any professional experience in this field that you are making shit up now.
SuperMarioBrother64@reddit
Yeah, I think you are correct. Look at the Thunderbird crash at Mountain Home some years ago, same maneuver, same result. The difference is that the pilot ejected milliseconds before impacting the ground. The cause? The altimeter was incorrectly configured. Thunderbirds just dont hire rookie pilots. Most of them have thousands of hours of flight time.
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
That thunderbird jet had more altitude than this pilot had. This pilot couldn’t have ejected.
SuperMarioBrother64@reddit
How do you figure he couldn't have ejected?
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
I’m just eyeballing how much vertical speed he had on impact, especially when you compare to that famous Thunderbird ejection. Go watch that video. He has almost no vertical speed by the time he impacts. And that’s what allows the ejection to happen safely. If this pilot had ejected, he would have plowed into the ground with his chute un-inflated.
SuperMarioBrother64@reddit
True. Or at the very least, severally injured.
rhineauto@reddit
As you acknowledge, there were a multitude of things that went wrong. You can't just dumb it all down to 'every time there's an airshow crash it's because an altimeter was set wrong'.
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
I can when one common mistake leads to the same outcome every time. That is the only single mistake that, if corrected, changes the outcome. If he’s 50 knots slower, he still dies. If he comes out of afterburner, he still dies. If he pulls harder through the maneuver, he still dies. If he references the correct altitude, he’s 300 feet higher and he doesn’t die.
He had the radar altimeter giving him incorrect information. He failed to switch to his baro altimeter. The jet wouldn’t display the barometric altitude if he had RALT selected. That why their SOP is to deflect RALT right there.
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CommanderCorrigan@reddit
Fly high
damianxyz@reddit
Thoughts and prayers
ScienceMechEng_Lover@reddit
He'd still be here if he remembered this.
seaalon@reddit
I hope you never have to hear anyone say something like this about your relative or friend
Gratedpotaters69@reddit
What did he say?
SerowiWantsToInvest@reddit
Well the guy he responded to said fly high and the pilot died from crashing into the ground so probably made a scummy joke about the 2 things.
CommanderCorrigan@reddit
Pretty much
smbgn@reddit
I hope they do hear it, to remind them of how much of a cunt they are.
PDXGuy33333@reddit
Has anyone heard a reason why he stayed with the plane instead of ejecting?
ZealousidealWorth690@reddit
From the moment he starts to pull out of the dive, he knows its gone wrong when the jet is fairly level but still falling fast, you can see he really pulls hard to try and get it nose up, (this is where he knows hes in trouble) from this point and until impact there is about 1 second. He was always going to try and get it out instead of ejecting, there just wasn't enough time to compute that he wouldn't make it and instead eject.. RIP SLAB. Your RIAT appearance this year was the highlight of the day..
Forgotthebloodypassw@reddit
Nose up and hoping, wish he could have pulled it off.
rivermaster22@reddit
…nickel on the grass
Shawon770@reddit
A tragic loss for aviation and for Poland. Major Krakowian gave his life doing what he loved lying with purpose and pride. Deepest condolences to all who knew him
atheistchristpuncher@reddit
Small anecdote. I knew Bob Odegaard a bit and attended his funeral. Years before he crashed, he said, referring to his potential... departure at an airshow, a bit tongue-in-cheek, "I hope no one says, 'He died doing what he loved.' Because I'm pretty sure I wouldn't enjoy crashing."
I've thought of that a lot over the years. I had planned on photographing him in Valley City that weekend. One big regret is not taking a day off work to get to that practice session like I wanted. Devastating.
ChameleonCabal@reddit
Sorry, but I can't listen to this f'king bs.
Millions of bucks are lost (Pilot training, Fighter jet) and after recent crashes not long ago... pilots still perform this dangerous split-s/loop at low altitude. It's the tax payer who got f'kd two times. Active-duty pilots and assets should not participate in such shows because every loss is one too many; especially for Poland and their limited amount of planes!
If someone hands me something worth of millions, I keep it safe!! A low altitude stunt is not how I keep it safe KNOWING, that lots of crashes ended up exactly like this after performing this maneuvre.
slothman-sleuth@reddit
Ya let’s all take a moment for the tax payers.. fuck off
glizzytwister@reddit
No one is handing you anyening worth millions.
SoftBreezeWanderer@reddit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_air_show_accidents_and_incidents_in_the_21st_century
glizzytwister@reddit
Hey, I know pilots love bullshitting, but this is a bit much.
Feeling-Attempt7962@reddit
flying*
xsteffz99@reddit
I bet the image of an asshole always appears when you pass by a mirror
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Aggressive-Muffin157@reddit
Did he misjudge the distance of the climb for the loop? I remember one of the thunderbirds had an accident like this, pilot ejected…
Randomreddituser1o1@reddit
At least he died in such a beautiful Livery on a f-16
NewHope13@reddit
RIP, bracie 🇵🇱
Dear-Breath8075@reddit
Blue skies, RIP.
Antekcz@reddit
very sad, I wonder if I saw him and his f-16 flying over Warsaw during the recent airshow.
Magog14@reddit
Maybe it's time we stopped burning hundreds of thousands of pounds of jet fuel over bystanders for the sake of entertainment. I'm not sure if anyone is aware but we are headed to an extinction level event because of greenhouse gasses.
glizzytwister@reddit
What does this have to do with Taylor Swift's plane?
Magog14@reddit
Her plane as well as airshow planes both contribute unnecessarily to greenhouse emissions.
NoGas3055@reddit
Genuine as your thought might be, youre in the wrong sub brother
Magog14@reddit
Maybe people in this sub should wake up to the dark reality and re-examine their priorities.
battlecryarms@reddit
Rest in peace. Seemed like a true aviator from the interview I watched with him.
modellingben@reddit
I saw him at RIAT 25 . R.i.p
Ragazzocolbass8@reddit
Ban airshows.
streetlegalb17@reddit
Ah yes, another one of those creatures who would rather force everyone to trade away things to live for and embrace, just for a little more “safety”…
Electronic_Emotion63@reddit
ban pilots like SLAB .
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JoeByeden@reddit
What sort of ridiculous logic is that
Froggyshop@reddit
When actual military pilots fly in demos and crash the most expensive planes needed for a future war with Russia, something is very wrong. American Blue Angels focus entirely on demos, unlike Slab.
Electronic_Emotion63@reddit
but how can he do a loop at such low altitude with full reheat , BIG mistake from a experienced pilot .
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
You have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about. In that regime a flight, full afterburner gives him maximum pitch rate, which gives him minimum altitude loss.
—Former fighter pilot
QuaintAlex126@reddit
Mistakes are made by all pilots, regardless of their skill level. Dale “Snort” Snodgrass, known as the “The Real Life Maverick” and the greatest F-14 pilot to ever live, tragically lost his life because the aircraft he was taking off in had its controls still locked. Such a simple mistake would have never been made had Snodgrass had gone through takeoff checklist properly and fully.
There are countless more examples from other demo teams like the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds. In fact, this isn’t the first time an F-16 has crashed during a flight demo in this exact same fashion.
cat_prophecy@reddit
It's complacency and being becoming to comfortable with danger that kills people so frequently, regardless of the job.
Electronic_Emotion63@reddit
fool me once , shame on you
fool me twice , shame on me .
thanks .
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Solid-Ad-7236@reddit
Sad to hear this, my condolences for the loss
Saw a youtube reel on it, it stated that the crash happened while practicing for an air show, personally I don't know anything about aviation and would rather wait to get official news of what MIGHT have happened but is there any visual cue to determine that it was a pilot error just from a short video
RhubarbLive9584@reddit
the maneuver was succeeding, he simply miscalculated the distance from the ground at which he had to start it. it can happen, unfortunately
Electronic_Emotion63@reddit
downvoting me won't bring him back .
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IBoughtAllDips@reddit
Oh no, we are just letting you know you not the sharpest knife
Squeebah@reddit
No one thinks it will. It's just to show you that your statement was stupid and added nothing to the world.
VHSVoyage@reddit
And why didn’t or couldn’t he eject ?
imbasicallycoffee@reddit
Air show, high G, limited response time. It’s really hard to move your hands to the exact position to eject under 5gs quickly. Maybe he thought he could save it.
tomhanks95@reddit
Most probably passed out from the G forces
Objective-Holiday-57@reddit
Most probably? Damn the NTSB needs to hire you
tomhanks95@reddit
No need to be a dick
Objective-Holiday-57@reddit
You can see the plane pitching up. Not sure that if anyone blacked out, they’d still give control inputs.
VHSVoyage@reddit
Solid theory yeah
QuaintAlex126@reddit
The reason that most pilots die these days is not because of their ejections seats failing but because of their failure to eject.
The belief to “stay with it” for just a little longer kills any hopes of survival. In most cases, it’s because the pilot believes they still have a chance of saving their aircraft and, like any dutiful aviator, they stick with it for just a little longer - only to realize too late that they should have ejected.
However, in other situations, pilots sometimes choose not to eject because they know their fate may already be sealed and are just trying to minimize the collateral damage. I have yet had a chance to look into the mishap further, but it’s likely the area SLAB was flying around was well populated. He may have chosen not to eject so as to remain in control of his aircraft and prevent it from crashing into onlookers on the ground.
roasty-one@reddit
From the short video I saw it looked like it was still on the runway. A similar thing happened to a U.S. Air Force Thunderbird pilot doing a split S. His plane impacted the runway but he was able to eject.
Build_Blox@reddit
This post is about paying our respects, not critiquing how things were done. Let’s keep the focus on honoring him.
Jay_6125@reddit
Sad loss.
But what made him not realise his position and altitude were nowhere near favourable for such a manoeuvre.
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
If you don’t set your altimeter properly on the runway, you have no way of knowing you’re too low until you’re already committed to the maneuver.
EurofighterLover@reddit
Go show heaven what they were missing out on king, keep the skies filled with🐅😢🕊️❤️
BrewCityChaserV2@reddit
Not saying he doesn't derseve one or anything but he already has a eulogy thread over here. No need to spam this subreddit with this stuff.
https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1n2kb0l/rip_maj_maciej_slab_krakowian_lost_today_during/
PureZookeepergame439@reddit
For me the best pilot at RIAT this year.. Sorry to hear of his passing..
Dr-N1ck@reddit
Honor y gloria
h3ffr0n@reddit
Blue skies
Tonkalego@reddit
Rip
pyrobat@reddit
Saw him at RIAT 25, very saddened by the loss.
ScienceMechEng_Lover@reddit
The pilot's callsign should be changed to "SLAM" after that skill issue./s
PresentationJumpy101@reddit
Genuinely saddened by this. Condolences to his family. Sooo so so so sorry.
MissionFar8560@reddit
Captain, I hope you landed somewhere safe.
HumanTorch23@reddit
Once a tiger, always a tiger
Ammesamme@reddit
Godspeed
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