The storm that crossed Corsica yesterday in the late afternoon caused the displacement of an ATR from Air Corsica on the runway of Calvi's Sainte-Catherine airport.
Posted by charlieruban1@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 55 comments
LevelThreeSixZero@reddit
That’s not the runway.
Unsurprisingly, vehicles that move fast through the air to lift themselves up have a tendency to get lifted up by air moving fast.
photenth@reddit
In MS Flight Simulator you can set the wind to something like 150 knots and just take off by pointing the plane into the wind. Not that it's a perfect replication of reality but still fun.
Publify@reddit
So you’re telling me I can fly backwards if I set it up right?
-burnr-@reddit
Some of us have done this IRL.
old_skul@reddit
At 150kt, you would definitely be flying backwards, because in level flight a Cessna 172 has a top speed of around 130kt.
Blackhawk510@reddit
Unironically yes, there's videos of Cessnas hovering or even flying backwards in very fast winds at altitude.
halfty1@reddit
Also a large flat vertical surface, such as I don’t know, a vertical stabilizer, is shockingly quite effective as acting as a weather vane.
Hodgetwins32@reddit
Well when you put it like that
nighthawke75@reddit
Don't get close to a 30 ton aircraft being pushed about like a toy.
Pitiful_Special_8745@reddit
LET ME JUST EDUCATE PEOPLE WORKING FULL TIME IN THIS INDISTRY. THEY MUST BE COMPLETE MORONS WHO DONT HAVE DECADES OF EXPERIENCE AND TRAINING.
I HAVE 0 SECONDS OF EXPERIENCE OR TRAINING BUT I WILL TELL YOU HOW TO DO YOUR JOB.
---AVERAGE REDDITOR
galvanized_steelies@reddit
This is why we moor aircraft before the winds hit
ATCOnPILOT@reddit
Does LFKC has mooring points on Stand 5? Couldn’t find anything in the AIP.
AceNova2217@reddit
I was thinking if I was in that tug-thing, I'd be getting away from the plane the moment I realised it was moving like that.
Funkytadualexhaust@reddit
I think its like 10 ton empty, so totally fine.. ;)
Daminica@reddit
I don’t think the outcome will be any different.
ttystikk@reddit
So the plane weather waned and likely prevented being damaged.
obscht-tea@reddit
Why doesn't this happen all the time? I mean aircrafts are built to react as well as possible to the wind and the wings provide lift due to their design. I don't understand how they stay on the ground in windy conditions while roofs get torn off even though they weren't designed for flying away. Huh?
geteavajsiti@reddit
They get tied-down to ground
obscht-tea@reddit
Like Zeppelins or Boats? That makes sense
proscriptus@reddit
Boats is an odd comparison.
agha0013@reddit
It happens often enough in major storms.
Planes are still quite heavy, obviously the bigger ones get heavier and harder to push around
Small GA planes need to be tied down almost all the time because even small storms or just a generic windy day could cause damage.
A lot of times on certain types, the controls are meant to be locked in such a way as to discourage wind from trying to pick the plane up.
Most planes also require thrust to counter the winds otherwise they just get pushed back, or any lift they get dissipates quickly if there's nothing holding the plane in place or pushing it against the wind even more. Small planes can be picked up but they don't stay in the air very long without thrust to hold them into the wind.
Designer_Buy_1650@reddit
An excellent example of weathervaning. 😀
wolftick@reddit
Weathercocking.
Designer_Buy_1650@reddit
I tried to be socially polite. 😀
wolftick@reddit
Weatherc**king 😀
Adventurous-Ad3301@reddit
Can aircraft of that size be tied down in case of a storm like this rolling through?
imjeffp@reddit
More right rudder.
notneeded17@reddit
Replacement
Monster_Voice@reddit
Gotta keep that upwind wing down when crosswind parking.
HandyBlueHedgehog@reddit
Ah yes the runway, where planes park and ground vehicles roam
Annoyingly-Petulant@reddit
Well it is the runway. If they took off for it wouldn’t it be called the takeoff way?
Tavreli@reddit
Imagine LoTR but instead of medieval fantasy its Airport fantasy
j_alfred_boofrock@reddit
The ATR is more susceptible to this with its high wings. I got blown around (not this bad) on a taxiway during a storm in one; we had to keep turning into the wind to keep it on pavement.
Benniisan@reddit
Storm refueling where? And I'm not sure it was properly cocked, but that's hard to tell...
BeachHut9@reddit
Ghost in control of the aircraft.
SeaworthinessEasy122@reddit
Whoa, that’s kinda spooky …
redditistheway@reddit
There are procedures to tie down aircraft using weights and straps to prevent this sort of thing, but it looks like they either didn’t have the required straps/ballast or enough warning or didn’t anticipate the intensity.
captainmongo@reddit
Sure, aeroplanes these days practically fly themselves...
Frequent-Occasion-87@reddit
Sir made an unintended left hand turn. In a moment, he'll move parking spots 😆😆😆
Crazy__Donkey@reddit
Shouldnt they prepare for such event by deploying air breaks, tieing the plane to the ground, trimming it all the way to nose down, and, if possible, securing the yoke to jose down position?
CharAznableLoNZ@reddit
No, you want the plane to be a clean and slippery as possible to the incoming wind. Controls, especially on small planes, are locked in a neutral position so they do not allow the wind to catch any of the control surfaces. You then tie the plane down in at least three locations. Most parking spots have one for each wind and one for the tail. This is usually enough to secure most planes in most conditions. Stuff outside the norm though could break a tiedown or buck a plane around enough it could damage a control surface or break the tiedown point. I've seen it happen when someone didn't tie down their plane well enough. It was jerking around going from loose to taught on the ropes until one of them gave way and it flipped over.
A nose down position or trim would create lift on the rear of the plane allowing for the possibility the tail could lift damaging the aircraft.
Crazy__Donkey@reddit
Ok, thank.
So, why not transfer them to a remote airfeild and bring them back after the storm passes? .. a short flight of 1-2 hundred miles can be sufficient to stay far from the heart of the storm.
zwd_2011@reddit
Weathercock effect.
anun4h@reddit
On the runway? Was that plane considering taking off in that wind? The engines looked off and there are cars around was it possibly parked? I wonder if people were inside.
If I was in a plane and I got wind-sheer on the ground I would be shitting bricks.
ATCOnPILOT@reddit
It’s definitely parked on Stand P5 The props are tied with a rope thingy.
I guess they would have removed that as part of their preparations even before the pax would board.
Daminica@reddit
I would question any officials allowing us in the planes in the first place.
But it looks like all the beacons/lights are off so I’m assuming it’s empty.
Gaspuch62@reddit
They forgot the Gust Lock.
YuushaFr@reddit
"I don't remember parking it like that !" - Probably the captain
Joke aside, surpised they didn't secure the plane to the ground knowing the storm was coming
galvanized_steelies@reddit
Maybe they were going for their vtol rating
MythicJerryStone@reddit
Damn they rotated the wrong way…
Illustrious-Neat5123@reddit
OH PUTAIIIING
thvice564@reddit
Due to the visibility and livery it looks like the storm took a bite out of the tail too
KhaltoTheHusky@reddit
Get rotated, idiot
jmtucu@reddit
Sustainable pushback
Crazy__Donkey@reddit
Renuable pushback.