Elephant extinction could threaten everything from rainforests to musical instruments. "Forest elephants are a keystone species that disperse the seeds of both large and small rainforest trees. If they go extinct, we risk losing the ecological processes that sustain rainforests."
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gaunernick@reddit
Yeah, but they are not going extinct. Namibia e.g. has an elephant pest problem. There are too many elephants for the country to support, so they are planning to cull 700 or so.
survive_los_angeles@reddit
last i looked americans pay money to fly there and shoot them dead
indiscernable1@reddit (OP)
The dumb ones. Do you think a Continental Republic with 350 million people all think the same. If so, please revise your summationist delusions. Why dont we just sum it all up to humans being the plague of the Earth. We dont have to discriminate.
survive_los_angeles@reddit
i dont see anyone from madagascar flying there to kill elephants.
indiscernable1@reddit (OP)
Please provide evidence for your extensive analysis of this situation. Otherwise, your comments are just an insane waste of time.
gomihako_@reddit
“We can automate it with ai” whoever says this doesn’t realize organically generated entities (in this case totally organic) have been “trained” over millions of years to perfect the task they are best at
Lion-Hermit@reddit
This is the environment they created simultaneously. Both the animal and the environment create one another so there is no possible equivalent replacement
PsudoGravity@reddit
Ah, but not too perfect at surviving in our new geoengineered environment now are they! Looks like a gap in the market if you ask me! /s
indiscernable1@reddit (OP)
As the elephants become extinct the forests dont have the ability to spread seeds to keep growing. As everything dies, everything else dies too. Everything is dying. If you live in an urban area and cannot see the speed at which natural ecology is collapsing I am sorry. It is happening. Sadly. We need to dramatically change right now and instead we are just watching Trumps ankles swell.
PsudoGravity@reddit
If the forests burn first, what's the point? Chicken or egg scenario.
boomaDooma@reddit
"If you live in an urban area" you are probably oblivious to natural ecology and also want to stay that way.
NyriasNeo@reddit
From google, "No, there are no elephants native to the Amazon rainforest" and yet the threat to the Amazon is human logging, not the lack of elephants.
indiscernable1@reddit (OP)
Nowhere are we talking about the Amazon. How illiterate are you?
NyriasNeo@reddit
"Are you not aware of rain forests in Africa and Asia?"
You are telling me that the rain forest magically needs elephants and the Amazon does not? That is just stupid.
indiscernable1@reddit (OP)
No. I am not saying that. Those ecosystems in South America rely on other species to spread seeds. Like various birds and other mammals.
Ask Google how the rainforest in south America have their seeds spread. It is not from elephants.
What are you arguing about? Are you really this stupid?
ThePositiveMouse@reddit
Misleading title. Its not about elephants, its just about large invertebrates in general.
indiscernable1@reddit (OP)
For example.... elephants. Which are large invertebrates that spread seeds. So the article was totally about elephants.
ThePositiveMouse@reddit
The article title suggests that rainforests are entirely sustained by Elephants. That's not what the article says.
ChromaticStrike@reddit
Music instrument is an oddly specific pick. I think we would lose way more vital things there.
erstwhileinfidel@reddit
Maybe the entire human adventure has been just another chapter in a millennia-spanning human-elephant war.
And we're winning!
AbominableGoMan@reddit
Elephants are nearly human in their empathy and humour. If you've ever interacted with them, you know that our treatment of them is a mortal sin.
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As the elephants become extinct the forests dont have the ability to spread seeds to keep growing. As everything dies, everything else dies too. Everything is dying. If you live in an urban area and cannot see the speed at which natural ecology is collapsing I am sorry. It is happening. Sadly. We need to dramatically change right now and instead we are just watching Trumps ankles swell.
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