The TPU review seems to back up what caselabs found. Compared to the go-to 47mm cooler it cant compete, even though it's 8mm taller.
I was pretty excited when they announced their pretty high tdp (something like 150W iirc) but clearly they only get that through a 3000rpm fan which apparently is at almost 60db.
gotta disagree there. with a 120mm fan you cant stay in the socket keepout zone, meaning you have to build higher. if you build higher you start competing with things like the L12 or AXP120.
also if they wanna build a cpu cooler with a vapour chamber as a USP then they cant build the fin array too high as the lack of heatpipes would lead to the heat not reaching the top of the finstack, making the added height useless.
I got that. But not every cooler needs to be trimmed for high performamce. If you wanna build an air cooled sffpc a tiny cooler that can dissipate 65-100w is all you need. there def is a niche for the C5. Its just already filled by other coolers.
A 120mm fin array would require something like a 50mm tall heatsink to get over the VRM heatsink and RAM sticks (unsure of the exact number). The purpose of this Cryorig is to fit it under 50mm for SFF cases that only allow about that much CPU clearance.
Oh really! I didn’t know that. The black ridge has been my least favourite cooler but I’ve loved every ID cooling cooler I’ve had (currently rocking the IS-55)
It depends on the allowed cooler height. For anything below 65mm in height, the AXP90-X47 Full Copper is by far the best cooler with thermals and compatibility in mind. It used to not be that expensive, but it's gone up in price. Still only about $35 USD. It's a full copper heatsink, so it punches way above its weight. Basically, at this height range, the AXP90-X47 Full Copper is the cooler to beat.
When you get to 65mm, you have some options such as the AXP120-X67 and the ID-COOLING IS-55.
The Cryorig C5 CU is a competitor to the AXP90-X47 Full Copper. I'm guessing the idea was to beat it using a vapor chamber, but the Cyrorig still gets significantly outperformed by the AXP90-X47 Full Copper.
Not sure but I’d be interested to hear. I always err on the side of overspending on cooling SFF builds, though maybe thermal throttling isn’t as big a concern as it once was.
It depends on what your case's CPU height clearance is.
For almost anything below 65mm in height, the only real option is the AXP90-X47 Full Copper. For anything above, there is the AXP120-X67 or ID-COOLING I5-55.
I'd guess the ID IS series, supports 120mm fans with screws allowing for full 25 width; if the mounting solution on the 77 XT supported push-pull, which I think it doesn't, it would be possible the best possible type in the space ATM.
The big question with all these low profile coolers is: Why no double decker fin arrays like the BQ TF2? Reimplement the Gladius in that shape and I suspect it might be a dominating design.
Yeah you sacrifice the ultra-low width market, but that isn't all of SFF and you can take potshots at the MP7 and Royal Knight segment as well as it could play with the big kids.
They largely abandoned the US market when the tariffs first took off under the current President’s first term. You could still find a few of their parts, but what little was available was grossly inflated.
I feel like you add a Thermalright AXP90-X53 Full Cooper and a few other commonly used SFF coolers to this review and make it a roundup so it provides some actual context. I'm just as in the dark about how the C5 Cu performs versus it's peers as I was before reading this review.
did they test it on an open test bench ?if not, then how can they get a standardized comparison with all those bulky coolers ? if they did, there is no point to this test then. The idea of this cooler is to fit in those sff case, where air circulation is heavily limited; 176W limit before throttle is simply fraudulent if it was achieved in an open environment lol
The writer of this article completely missed the point of low profile coolers
Exactly, looking at the cases available to buy from regular e-tailers, etc. The selection available works out to 99% support AIO or larger air coolers, mostly because GPUs are massive now, so to support them means more space. More niche offerings require specific knowledge of the company or case. It is a tiny market comparetively.
Well, a major problem with that conclusion is that techpowerup doesn't have any other low profile coolers in their comparison suite. So basically all this says is that it's worse than tower coolers. Great, but irrelevant to the only real audience for this thing - people who can't fit a tower cooler. Would have been far more useful to have a couple of popular low profile ones instead. AXP90-X47, Blackridge, Intel/AMD stock coolers, etc.
nd4spd1919@reddit
What an odd review. No comparison to other low-profile coolers? Putting in charts with AIOs? Strange choice.
luaps@reddit
Here is another review
The TPU review seems to back up what caselabs found. Compared to the go-to 47mm cooler it cant compete, even though it's 8mm taller.
I was pretty excited when they announced their pretty high tdp (something like 150W iirc) but clearly they only get that through a 3000rpm fan which apparently is at almost 60db.
Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)
They should have gone with a 120mm sized fin array and fan at the least. Probably optimized fin density for air flow too.
luaps@reddit
gotta disagree there. with a 120mm fan you cant stay in the socket keepout zone, meaning you have to build higher. if you build higher you start competing with things like the L12 or AXP120.
also if they wanna build a cpu cooler with a vapour chamber as a USP then they cant build the fin array too high as the lack of heatpipes would lead to the heat not reaching the top of the finstack, making the added height useless.
Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)
If you have to do that you've probably taken things too thin to be really practical for high performance IMHO.
luaps@reddit
well not every cooler has to be able to handle 200w chips, but there is need for tiny coolers for sff cases.
Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)
I'm saying that if you can't even accommodate a horizontal 120mm fan, you're sacrificing too much in name of footprint reduction.
luaps@reddit
I got that. But not every cooler needs to be trimmed for high performamce. If you wanna build an air cooled sffpc a tiny cooler that can dissipate 65-100w is all you need. there def is a niche for the C5. Its just already filled by other coolers.
99-Potions@reddit
A 120mm fin array would require something like a 50mm tall heatsink to get over the VRM heatsink and RAM sticks (unsure of the exact number). The purpose of this Cryorig is to fit it under 50mm for SFF cases that only allow about that much CPU clearance.
aj_thenoob2@reddit
What is the budget SFF heatsink right now, anyways?
logosuwu@reddit
Probably still an ID cooling low profile cooler, they're the OEM for Alphone Blackridge.
jonwatso@reddit
Oh really! I didn’t know that. The black ridge has been my least favourite cooler but I’ve loved every ID cooling cooler I’ve had (currently rocking the IS-55)
99-Potions@reddit
It depends on the allowed cooler height. For anything below 65mm in height, the AXP90-X47 Full Copper is by far the best cooler with thermals and compatibility in mind. It used to not be that expensive, but it's gone up in price. Still only about $35 USD. It's a full copper heatsink, so it punches way above its weight. Basically, at this height range, the AXP90-X47 Full Copper is the cooler to beat.
When you get to 65mm, you have some options such as the AXP120-X67 and the ID-COOLING IS-55.
The Cryorig C5 CU is a competitor to the AXP90-X47 Full Copper. I'm guessing the idea was to beat it using a vapor chamber, but the Cyrorig still gets significantly outperformed by the AXP90-X47 Full Copper.
Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)
TBH, I think the way to beat that involves a vapor chamber... but used like how the DC Assassin sporting one does.
The_Bukkake_Ninja@reddit
Not sure but I’d be interested to hear. I always err on the side of overspending on cooling SFF builds, though maybe thermal throttling isn’t as big a concern as it once was.
99-Potions@reddit
It depends on what your case's CPU height clearance is.
For almost anything below 65mm in height, the only real option is the AXP90-X47 Full Copper. For anything above, there is the AXP120-X67 or ID-COOLING I5-55.
Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)
Going overboard on cooling solutions is probably better then underdoing it, from the viewpoint of the reliability of the more expensive parts.
Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)
I'd guess the ID IS series, supports 120mm fans with screws allowing for full 25 width; if the mounting solution on the 77 XT supported push-pull, which I think it doesn't, it would be possible the best possible type in the space ATM.
kagoromo@reddit
Chances are Thermalright has a cooler to fit whatever your height limit is.
Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)
The big question with all these low profile coolers is: Why no double decker fin arrays like the BQ TF2? Reimplement the Gladius in that shape and I suspect it might be a dominating design.
Exist50@reddit
Would make it too tall, probably.
Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)
Yeah you sacrifice the ultra-low width market, but that isn't all of SFF and you can take potshots at the MP7 and Royal Knight segment as well as it could play with the big kids.
madn3ss795@reddit
That's super niche that only Thermalright is still releasing models (e.g. SI 100) because they can release a dozen models a month.
Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)
Eh, if you're using one of the SFF cases that don't demand a riser, I don't think it would be a problem.
rowdy_1c@reddit
I miss when you could get a C7 for like $20-30…
cyborgedbacon@reddit
I forgot Cryorig was still around, used to see them posted everywhere before Thermalright started to expand like crazy.
OverlyOptimisticNerd@reddit
They largely abandoned the US market when the tariffs first took off under the current President’s first term. You could still find a few of their parts, but what little was available was grossly inflated.
Exist50@reddit
Tariffs nearly killed them during the previous wave, iirc. Never quite recovered, especially in NA.
Gnerma@reddit
I feel like you add a Thermalright AXP90-X53 Full Cooper and a few other commonly used SFF coolers to this review and make it a roundup so it provides some actual context. I'm just as in the dark about how the C5 Cu performs versus it's peers as I was before reading this review.
hieuphamduy@reddit
did they test it on an open test bench ?if not, then how can they get a standardized comparison with all those bulky coolers ? if they did, there is no point to this test then. The idea of this cooler is to fit in those sff case, where air circulation is heavily limited; 176W limit before throttle is simply fraudulent if it was achieved in an open environment lol
SunnyCloudyRainy@reddit
The writer of this article completely missed the point of low profile coolers
PlatypusOrange00@reddit
Wow this thing got completely wrecked by pretty much every other cooler
With results this bad I'm surprised they're even releasing this.
Exist50@reddit
Well, a major problem with that conclusion is that techpowerup doesn't have any other low profile coolers in their comparison suite. So basically all this says is that it's worse than tower coolers. Great, but irrelevant to the only real audience for this thing - people who can't fit a tower cooler. Would have been far more useful to have a couple of popular low profile ones instead. AXP90-X47, Blackridge, Intel/AMD stock coolers, etc.
Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)
Not great showing against the AXP90 according to caselabs, more's the pity. I tend to suspect the fan and maybe a too shallow fin array let it down.
Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)
Though their... frankly mediocre... fan IP likely does not help.
SoTOP@reddit
This cooler is 55mm tall, the test simply doesn't have any other cooler from similar height class to provide context.
PlatypusOrange00@reddit
I didn't realize that none of the other coolers had a similar size
Well that's kind of unfair then, I agree