Exodus at CDC as Director Ousted and Senior Leaders Resign
Posted by fruderduck@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 71 comments

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy3zjxy3dwo
uwgal@reddit
The good news is that Canada will get more scientists than ever before. We're about to be the centre of research in North America! Bienvenue a Canada, rational thinkers! We welcome you!
KateMacDonaldArts@reddit
If you’re concerned about getting the vaccine and close enough to the border, Canada is producing its own Moderna now
Ingawolfie@reddit
Frankly I’m surprised this took as long as it did.
When people are placed in these positions based on loyalty instead of competence, it never ends well for the institution.
CrimsonFox89@reddit
If we have anybody in the healthcare industry on here, how screwed are we with this? How can we prep?
Koraxtheghoul@reddit
Microbiologist. It's really hard to tell. The CDC with not enough funding and direction will struggle to handle a pandemic situation but pandemics with the pontential of COVID-19 aren't guaranteed. If we had the COVID situatiom now the death toll would be terrible.
The research the CDC has been doing is very much in a bad place. Jobs don't exist. The CDC is going to be mpre reactive than pro-active with not enough funding to be proactive.
Changing vaccination standarda will likely increase mortality. How depends on the results of the changes. If no one gets MMR (or even a minority stops getting it) then the measles will spread like wildfire.
The big question is can the CDC become functional again after RFK and without WHO support and decent US funding what can it do.
hera-fawcett@reddit
many in healthcare have been warning for months.
closing of rural hospitals, lack of care for the elderly, huge shake ups regarding vaccinations, supply chain and tariff issues regarding medications.
theres not much u can do to prep besides stock up on ur usuals or must-haves (tylenol, benadryl, cold medicine, etc.), and mask tf back up.
its finna be rough.
agent_flounder@reddit
Also Medicaid cuts, right? (Big Bullshit Bill?)
hera-fawcett@reddit
oh 100 100.
and wonky vaccine guidelines-- the new covid vax only for 65+ or 18 and under iirc.
sdb00913@reddit
That sucks because I work in healthcare and I’d rather have the shot than take the chance of getting sick. Truth told, if they make a vaccine for it (whatever “it” might be), I want it.
Accomplished-Bet8880@reddit
I’d say learn how to make penicillin. Maybe buy a book detailing how to make medicine but you’re right. Need to stock up on just basic meds.
CrimsonFox89@reddit
My household has been attempting preps. Other than stockpiling medicine, my girlfriend has been studying herbal remedies. Not that herbal helps much, but it might be all we get.
hera-fawcett@reddit
smart fr.
i think, aside from prescriptions (which is going to kill), the worst thing will be shit like contact lens solution and fiber lmao. both are necessary but like niche enough w high use and expiration dates.
techdan98@reddit
A friend who was a scientist at CDC until a few weeks ago says we're very screwed.
FormerNeighborhood80@reddit
All the many institutions the CDC reaches out to with scientific teaching will be crippled with Kennedy’s mental state running the show. He is a Lawyer and not a scientist.
techdan98@reddit
A lawyer with a brain worm.
Tight-Talk-7591@reddit
It's true. My dad knows the CEO of the CDC and said we're all going to die.
ContestNo2060@reddit
Former scientist here - yes, what is happening with public health will cause more harm and deaths than anything else this admin is doing. First undermining the public’s confidence will reduce vaccination rates allowing preventable disease. And second, reducing accessibility will further erode that uptake. Vaccines have been the single most effective health intervention EVER and has saved millions of lives. Billions of dollars have been saved in healthcare costs not to mention worker productivity and well-being. The funding removed for mRNA research is also detrimental to our readiness as the mRNA platform is being used to develop vaccines quickly to emerging threats and even cancer. mRNA has been one of the most effective tools to prevent disease in decades and all that is thrown out the window. Research can’t just be started and stopped at a whim and much of that effort is now lost. It will take literal decades to get any of this back. In the meantime, other countries who embrace evidence-based science will be better prepared. It’s sickening to public health officials who understand how much harm this will cause to the communities they have spent their entire career working to protect.
ContestNo2060@reddit
I forgot to add how to prepare. First, be proactive and prioritize getting these vaccines from your doctor, if available. You may need to pay out of pocket as insurance may not cover it. Second, stay informed about circulating diseases. A lot of local state health departments still monitor and will have a good picture of what is happening. Follow their official communications. These entities are underfunded to begin with, but in reality this is where most of the boots on the ground public health work happens. CDC has traditionally been more of an advisory role. They rely on state/local public health for data and most interventions. Local public health workers aren’t going to intentionally give bad info as most are principled and care for their communities. Follow NYC public health communications especially as they are good at detecting disease and usually communicable diseases will first appear in large cities like what happened with Covid. They have a robust detection system. And third, become proactive in your preparations. Preppers learned a lot during Covid. Be able to pivot those efforts based on the risk circulating. If mosquito-borne, be prepared to purchase netting, change outdoor behavior, control mosquitos, etc. If respiratory, avoid crowds to lower risk. Wear masks, etc. and fourth- rely on evidence-based findings and trust real scientists for information.
If we all do our best and act in accordance with evidence-based practices, we as a whole, can offset to some degree the worst of the worst.
Accomplished-Bet8880@reddit
You don’t need to be in healthcare to know that the top respected individuals are quitting because of looney Kennedy. This isn’t good man. Not good at all. Better hope no new weird diseases pop up.
DrTrustMeBro@reddit
GuiltyOutcome140@reddit
Friend in vaccine work also says very screwed.
ChrisF1987@reddit
I've been hearing some rumblings that they resigned because they were afraid RFK's handpicked ACIP commission is preparing to outright ban the MRNA COVID vaccines at their September 18th meeting.
ChromedYouth@reddit
Oh nice! I wonder which celebrity doctor we get to install in her place. Dr who? Dr. strange?
Oh maybe Dr. Phil can take a break from hunting down brown people and maybe we can make him head of the CDC!
I know let’s ask BigBalls !! He will know who to put in charge!
fruderduck@reddit (OP)
Dr Oz
Prob_Pooping@reddit
Trump and his gang of dickbags want every single US citizen entirely dependent on them for their survival.
fruderduck@reddit (OP)
No, they don’t want us to survive.
Pontiacsentinel@reddit
this is going to be a generational brain drain for the United States and it will be a very long time before we even get to where we were last year.
McRibs2024@reddit
By the time we are in a position to recover it’ll be too late. We have over 3 more years of RFK.
Accomplished-Bet8880@reddit
No man. It’s cool. We’re allowing a bunch of Chinese spies to come here. All good.
cheongyanggochu-vibe@reddit
And Russian spies
Pontiacsentinel@reddit
We have a Russian Spy in Chief, we do not even need others.
J0E_Blow@reddit
Are they spies if they're welcomed in with open arms?
philbydee@reddit
The USA will never ever come even close to where it was last year. Sorry, but there’s just no way back from this- And there’s still 3 and a bit more years of this at a bare minimum
J0E_Blow@reddit
Unless we change drastically as a nation- yes.
agent_flounder@reddit
True. Although, first we have to have a majority of people grasp how bad things are so there is actual political will to start fixing.
Otherwise it will just flip flop between Republicans running through with a wrecking ball and democrats slow patching with spackle.
ContestNo2060@reddit
Slow patching with a spackle while getting the blame for it..
sin_loopey@reddit
Yeah I’ve been reading of people flocking to Canadian Universities (usually it’s the other way around) and I’m Canadian. Though I need to double check where my drugs are manufactured- thankfully my NP just approved 6 months worth.
DEverett0913@reddit
And we still have 3.25 more years of this (at least).
McRibs2024@reddit
One of the darkest roads we’re going down is this dismantling of the cdc and the embracing of absolute bullshit. We’re going from world leaders to crayon eating as an Olympic sport.
Cushman56@reddit
We are in Dark Ages again.
fruderduck@reddit (OP)
I’m wondering now how often BBC changes the title and rewrites articles, while reusing the same link.
I posted this using the same title it was under and thats a screenshot of the original article. The link obviously doesn’t lead to it anymore. I can locate the original on a couple other sites.
DWebOscar@reddit
It’s called a content management system. They enter several different titles and are constantly A/B testing which gets more clicks and the system serves the one it expects you’ll click on based on all the data they’ve collected and bought about you.
fruderduck@reddit (OP)
Thanks for the info!
nycdiveshack@reddit
The articles shows up for me right now
Playful_Possible_379@reddit
This will hurt the world in so many ways. Russia and it's assets must pay
SpaceMonkey_321@reddit
Lol. That ship has sailed and we helped to dismantle the port.
Playful_Possible_379@reddit
What's this we. It was a Russian assets not us. I want a proper set of grown ups leading.
SpotResident6135@reddit
Russia? This is just capitalists with power.
agent_flounder@reddit
You realize it can be both, right?
SpotResident6135@reddit
Yes but blaming Russia takes agency away from our own capitalist class.
J0E_Blow@reddit
Very Marxist of you to say.
SpotResident6135@reddit
And?
J0E_Blow@reddit
Is the weather in Moscow good?
SpotResident6135@reddit
Liberals will never tire of the Russian canard.
Grow up.
rojira1@reddit
Uh. Her name ends in -ez. So she’s obviously not American!! /s
MezcalFlame@reddit
With RFK Jr. involved, can you trust anything they put out now?
fruderduck@reddit (OP)
Difficult to believe anything anymore.
EscapeFacebook@reddit
Anyone who resigns is complicit themselves ,stay and fight
cecirdr@reddit
I wonder what they plan to do to earn a living now. Maybe they've got a way to leave the country. I wish them the best and hope that one day we'll be able to use their talents again. Every day I mourn more. I'm scared.
J0E_Blow@reddit
They likely have enough to retire and are well enough known and qualified that finding a job elsewhere- internationally or domestically won't be too hard.
Conscious_Avocado225@reddit
Insert Steven Miller as Emperor Palpatine "Good, everything is going according to plan" gif.
viper3k@reddit
The Exodus is going to be scientists of all types... Out of the USA.
Amazing how they get all bent about Ayn Rand inspired fears causing an exit of talented people when in reality it's them, they will cause it with stupidity and tyranny.
OralJonDoe@reddit
Unclear? She refused to rubber stamp rfk decision on vaccines. Journalists suck ass.
Biotic101@reddit
It almost looks like they want another pandemic. The huge amount of dead saved SS over 200B while billionaires significantly increased their wealth.
All those cuts lately will kill a lot of people, many of them Trump supporters. No surprise they don't want any free and fair elections in the future.
Effective-Ebb-2805@reddit
Journalists are afraid to speak the obvious. I'll help them. She was fired for refusing to kiss Trump's fat ass by, as you correctly pointed out, refusing to follow rfk jr.'s moronic decisions.
philbydee@reddit
This is what happens when you appoint a necromancer to be chief of all medical regulations in the USA.
EastTyne1191@reddit
Radagast the Brown tried to warn us.
Life_Significance643@reddit
Those of us who work in drug discovery or healthcare tried to warn this country about the very real threat Trump and RFK Jr posed. Nobody wanted to listen. It was all a hoax or some ploy to pad pockets of drug CEOs. Well now we all get to suffer the consequences of such stupidity.
Herban_Myth@reddit
When is the WH clearing?
Effective-Ebb-2805@reddit
And, they will be replaced by thoroughly unqualified personnel. Those whose qualifications all relate to their penchant for kissing Trump's fat ass. An administration by the incompetent... top to bottom.
This is, indeed, the time to take your preparations seriously. Even FEMA is being destroyed, as we mive into the peak of hurricane season. We are, more than ever, on our own. All we have is ourselves and each other. Prepare accordingly.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Doctor Monarez is fighting the illegal firing, per her lawyers, not stepping down.