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mlee0000@reddit

Is this the same Venezuela that has the world's largest oil reserve?

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No-Fail7484@reddit

He’s looking for rare earth materials. We have been cut off. He has finally realized his mistake and why we need the stuff

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SqueezedTowel@reddit

Gonna be pretty hard liberate all that oil with ICE having a bigger budget than the military.

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Effective-Ebb-2805@reddit

Funny... smells just a little bit like bullshit to me... So, yeah... I must be standing downwind from American freedom.

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Feylin@reddit

Oil isn't even the lowest cost energy source anymore. Solar and onshore wind is cheaper than fossil fuels.

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NoOneBetterMusic@reddit

Until the wind stops blowing and the night comes.

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4HobsInATrenchCoat@reddit

Yes, but Trump and is friends are more heavily invested in fossil fuels.

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Yet we will continue using fossil fuels principally. Crunched interest will not be easily shunted aside in today's day and age I'm afraid. Especially not with the recent further tilt of our governments across the West.

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32getreddit@reddit

Solar and onshore wind- wtf are those, futuristic alien tech?

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BeardedDude5@reddit

It's probably not the oil we're after though. Guyana has light sweet crude and we're probably more so interested in that not becoming Venezuela's oil.

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No-Fail7484@reddit

Drones have changed things. Look at Russia’s mess. Now they got donkeys on their battlefield transportation. 😆😆. We don’t want to wind up like them.

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FormerNeighborhood80@reddit

I can’t help but wonder about American safety. We have ships off Venezuela, the guard pulled to pick up trash in big cities, ships in the Middle East and soldiers asked to leave the military due to sexual/gender preference. If someone attacked the US right now I think we might be spread a little thin to be able to protect ourselves.

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Mosso3232@reddit

The USA is a paper tiger

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Raven_Photography@reddit

All US destroyers have guided missiles. That’s their mission. To deliver ordnance on target.

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NoTerm3078@reddit (OP)

All US destroyers have guided missiles. That’s their mission. To deliver ordnance on target.

It's the title of the linked article.

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Raven_Photography@reddit

My point is the stupid redundancy. It’s like saying nuclear submarine. All US submarines are nuclear powered.

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Big_Fortune_4574@reddit

Not everyone knows what a US destroyer is equipped with

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werealldoomed47@reddit

Goddamnit as an American I'm sorry

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Afraid_Garage_9941@reddit

Como latino, les felicito por estar cerca de liberar a Venezuela de su dictador

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Big_Fortune_4574@reddit

If we do that I doubt you’ll like the result any better than all the other countries we’ve freed from their dictators.

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NoOneBetterMusic@reddit

For what? For sailing ships near Venezuela?

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Theone2324@reddit

Low T

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werealldoomed47@reddit

It ain't low t to regret the actions of your country.

It's called empathy. At your reading level I think they just call it "don't be an asshole to people you don't know"

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Theone2324@reddit

Yea yea man it’s just weird how you people are always so empathetic to dictators and the like, lol

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DOLCICUS@reddit

The people of the country are the ones that suffer.

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Theone2324@reddit

I agree, we should just let them continue to live in severe poverty and to attempt to flee that country for ours

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Th3_Admiral_@reddit

I'm sure bombing them will stop people from fleeing the country. And every bomb will help lift them out of poverty too.

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Theone2324@reddit

This is a good point because I’m not exactly sure what to do myself. Maduro didn’t have free and fair elections (it’s why he was sanctioned in the first place) so do we sit back and let him persecute his own peoples and send criminals (Tren de aragua) here? Politics is tough

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Th3_Admiral_@reddit

Well, there are a lot of oppressive regimes around the world. America only seems to care about that when they have an ideology we don't like (communism or radical Islam) and resources we want (oil). We've supported plenty of countries ruled by dictators and despots if they align with our geopolitical interests.

So I'm going to need a way better justification than that before we start yet another war.

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DOLCICUS@reddit

You know most of the people that come here are from countries the US has bombed or influenced with the dictators they install. You must be ignorant if you think America does any liberating with its armies.

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Theone2324@reddit

We have done liberating with our armies, and “most” of the people that migrate here are not due to our own hand

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-Calm_Skin-@reddit

“Empathy’s evil” now, we know. You’re so easily played.

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Theone2324@reddit

Not what I said lol

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Ricky_Ventura@reddit

That's literally a reference to a Vance quote, who was in turn referencing the book by Joe Rigney.

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Theone2324@reddit

I’m not here to get lost in semantics or get convoluted references, I just don’t feel bad for dictators. He (Maduro) lost a chance at empathy with his failure to carry out free and fair elections

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Snoo-72988@reddit

You realize other people outside of Maduro live in Venezuela right?

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Theone2324@reddit

Right … the people being persecuted by the regime reside there. You realize he’s the one in complete control there right?

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Snoo-72988@reddit

And so what? You think America should instigate a regime change? History shows regime change is a violent process with little positive results.

Examples: Iraq 500k dead, Vietnam 1.3 million dead, Guatemala 200k, chile 3k dead.

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Th3_Admiral_@reddit

Keep saying "lol" in every comment. It seems so sincere and not at all like you are trying to pretend this is no big deal.

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Ricky_Ventura@reddit

No one is empathetic to Trump except other sexual predators

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Theone2324@reddit

Rightttt

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Ricky_Ventura@reddit

It's true. 34 felony fraud convictions and a rape judgement. If he were in a 3 strike state that would be life with no possibility of parole.

No one likes felons except other felons, and thugs that wish they could be felons.

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Theone2324@reddit

Yea the millions of people that like him are felons and sexual predators get real man

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FuckElonMuskkk@reddit

Stfu, lol

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Theone2324@reddit

I would destroy you in a halo 1v1

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Astral-projekt@reddit

Ironic statement considering how many Magats want one

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Comfortable_Goal9110@reddit

Thanks for letting us know. Hope it gets better big dog.

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-Calm_Skin-@reddit

You can get treatment for that.

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BmacSOS@reddit

Are we at war with fucking Venezuela now?!

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sludge_monster@reddit

Only the parts with oil.

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AmsoniaAl@reddit

It's been heading this way since Venezuela announced plans to annex Guyana a year or two ago

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Bozhark@reddit

Well who else is going to steal potentially the largest untapped field?

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lemaymayguy@reddit

We've always been at war eastvenezuela

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Gygax_the_Goat@reddit

Have a gin..

😔

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CeeArthur@reddit

Doubleplusgood comrade

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This_Loss_1922@reddit

I kid you not, some venezuelan reporters are saying this is to stop the traffic of fentanlyl FROM venezuela to the US

Fucking venezuelan fentanyl.

Like you have a ton of valif reasons to oppose the maduro dictatorship but you choose to fucking lie.

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NarcissisticTyrant01@reddit

Yeah, certainly not fentanyl but cocaine. I am not saying the US actions are justified, but you're not being lied to when you hear about drugs coming from Venezuela to the US.

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This_Loss_1922@reddit

https://revistaraya.com/daniel-noboas-family-business-president-of-ecuador-is-involved-in-cocaine-trafficking-to-europe

https://www.eurogroupforanimals.org/news/45-tonnes-cocaine-found-ship-carrying-1750-cows

This stupid clown show of a deployment is not a cost effective way to stop the drug problem.

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pattydickens@reddit

Trump is such a giant vagina.

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Bozhark@reddit

Vaginas are amazing.

Trump is not.

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hectorbrydan@reddit

More of a dicktaster.

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grownask@reddit

Do not offend vaginas, please.

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Beautiful-Point4011@reddit

He doesn't have the warmth or the depth of a giant vagina

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AmsoniaAl@reddit

The only way this is justified is if Venezuela moves on Guyana

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NoOneBetterMusic@reddit

The only way sailing ships near Venezuela is justified is if Venezuela moves on Guyana? We can sail wherever we want…

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AmsoniaAl@reddit

We can sail in whatever international waters we want, yeah. When I say "move on" I mean kinetic military action though

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NoOneBetterMusic@reddit

Ah, so you’re not freaking out about this like everyone else seems to be.

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AmsoniaAl@reddit

Not really. I don't want to go to war, and I'm not looking forward to the inevitable terror attacks in the US, but I believe very firmly that those in positions of power to do so are morally responsible to protect victims of aggression.

People forget / are ignorant of the fact that these geopolitical issues predate Trump, and that there are in fact worse people in the world than Trump.

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NoOneBetterMusic@reddit

Whattt? But Trump is literal Hitler reincarnate! He was born 13 months after Hitler died, so obviously he is Hitler reincarnated. Did I mention he’s a fascist? The fascistest of all!

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AmsoniaAl@reddit

Trump is a fascist. He is actively consolidating power, deploying the military to the US, and dismantling government institutions.

In addition to being a fascist, he's a felonious, conniving, rapist piece of shit.

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NoOneBetterMusic@reddit

A fascist is a national socialist. Where’s the socialist part?

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AmsoniaAl@reddit

Fascism does not necessarily equate to Nazi style national socialism, but for socialist tendencies in the trump admin look no further than the government acquisition of 10% of Intel, and the vast influence trump has exerted on a multitude of companies

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NoOneBetterMusic@reddit

Buying part of a company doesn’t equal socialism. Redistributing wealth via government does. All historical fascism is national socialism. Be it Germany, Austria, or Italy…

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AmsoniaAl@reddit

You are incorrect on both accounts. Enjoy your evening.

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hectorbrydan@reddit

Is it Justified to get involved in bad faith military engagements because we have a pretext like that? Maybe if we just pushed Venezuela back over the Border. There is no way they would not gratuitously bomb Venezuelan infrastructure in the process though.

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AmsoniaAl@reddit

Yes, it is justified to defend a state when another state invades with the intention of occupying territory. Destroying infrastructure both A.) serves as a deterrent and B.) limits the future offensive capabilities of the aggressor

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hectorbrydan@reddit

Not in the manner that the United States government would do it right now is not justified.

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AmsoniaAl@reddit

Ok buddy

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hectorbrydan@reddit

Anytime pal.

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Ricky_Ventura@reddit

Trump doesn't care. If he invaded it will be to secure the disputed oil. As he's do fond of saying, he'll "move on her like a bitch"

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AmsoniaAl@reddit

You are absolutely right that trump doesn't care about the Guyanan people

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AuraOfTwilight@reddit

Goddamn make it stop. We want peace dammit not war with our neighbors! Enough of the senseless war and bloodshed. The Trump Administration may have a boner for destroying things and causing chaos but jfc not all of us want it. It's hard enough living nowadays...I am so sick of little rich men with big egos ruining life for everyone because they have the mental maturity of a first grader and fear any sort of progress.

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hectorbrydan@reddit

There will be no invasion in occupation of Venezuela. At most they will bomb it. That is unless they can seduce affection of the army to initiate a coup, or find a pretext with one of their neighbors like Guyana to get involved and even then occupation would be a major fuck up and even they are not that stupid, yet.

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Sad_Math5598@reddit

“They’ll just bomb it”

Yeah and Venezuela and other countries will just be fine with that? That’s an act of war and there will be retaliation, followed by counter-retaliation and then further escalation.

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