Nintendo Switch 2 Has Sold 2 Million Units in the U.S., 75% Ahead of the Switch 1's Pace - IGN
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mkmckinley@reddit
Is it still really easy to scratch the screen?
Pillokun@reddit
it would have been such a better device if it had 1tb ssd at least. now they are capturing people in what I would call catch 22, with their push towards digital with only 256GB of storage(even less avaible for games) and forcing the customers to buy expensive sd cards. wth...
carl2187@reddit
Stick to physical cartridges only for Nintendo consoles. Never let them force you to digital. Solves the concern of space, enables resell, enables proper sharing of games. Sad world we live in where we own nothing unless we go out of our way and spend more. Of course there's no "vouchers" for physical copies either.
shoneysbreakfast@reddit
People in this sub just flat out do not understand that no one outside of hardware enthusiasts give a flying fuck about paper specs. Most people care about what experience a product can give them for the money and that's it. And honestly unless you are comparing individual components, like one CPU against another, it makes way more sense to look at products holistically instead of obsessing about numbers on a spec sheet.
If you spent $300 on a Switch in 2017 then you ended up getting an enormous library of games to choose from and are still getting new titles. Switch was built on old underpowered hardware but that $300 was one of the best values you could ever get in gaming. The investment paid off.
The same thing will apply to Switch 2 at $450. It's built on old hardware with an SoC on an old node that everyone here was complaining about but over the lifetime of the device you are going to get loads of games that you cannot get anywhere else in a tried and true form factor from a company that is guaranteed to provide years and years of strong software support. Unsurprisingly, most actual gamers care about games first and everything else afterwards. Owning a Switch was a great experience and owning a Switch 2 will be as well.
The prevailing attitude on this sub is like if you went to buy a new car and looked up the horsepower/torque figures and quarter mile times and chose based off of that alone, ignoring the interior or ride comfort or road noise or infotainment or stereo or any of the other things that cannot be quantified but are critical ingredients that culminate in the experience of owning and operating that car. Then you're sitting at a stoplight next to a person who bought the "wrong" car and judging them because they got less HP for more money and the only way anyone would do that is if they were an idiot or a sheep or a rube. They are smiling and unbothered and you are thinking about how epically you are going to roast them on the internet when you get home.
Aggrokid@reddit
Likely most of them just want to play their Switch games with better hardware. I am just as guilty of this with the PS5 Pro, which is widely considered a lacklustre upgrade.
Framed-Photo@reddit
I'm surprised it's selling well given the price and the current library available on it, not because of the specs lol.
I feel like nobody I know wants to drop that much cash just to play mario kart and a donkey kong game, and there's not really a whole lot else going for the console right now, yet apparently it's selling like hot cakes.
Was the switch 1 just not that successful until covid hit?
frumply@reddit
You can’t be serious? Console sales data is pretty readily available and tracked. By the start of COVID the switch had already sold 50+ million units worldwide. Sales did accelerate for 2020-22 but the switch was extremely successful at that point. Pretty much any sort of objective sales data will tell you that this past generation the Switch was the decisive winner.
ezkailez@reddit
It's also possible that they're betting games will come later. And so they're rushing to buy it before tariff increases the price
Rough_Buyer_2701@reddit
I've just wanted to be able to play switch 1 games at better performance. I imagine most are like that too.
Framed-Photo@reddit
Right now your best bet would be emulation on a PC, weather that be a PC handheld or an actual desktop or laptop.
Being able to play smash ultimate at 120 fps for example, made the game feel a LOT better for me than on a normal switch. You can also use mods to try and remove some of the pointless latency Nintendo tried to add to the switch as well. I think smash ultimate has 80ms of latency in an absolute best case scenario, and it's only down from there lol. So emulation can get things a bit better at least.
inyue@reddit
And also can't read 🤣
Framed-Photo@reddit
They replied and said they wanted to play switch 1 games with better performance, and I mentioned the best current way to do that lol.
I'm failing to see the issue. I'm telling someone inside the sub something about hardware lmao.
Front_Expression_367@reddit
It does kinda depends on the kind of computer the other person is having. For all we know they could be having an integrated GPU only intended to do workplace stuff, but they bought the Switch 2 to play Switch 1 games with their family.
YashaAstora@reddit
You can play the new Mario Kart on it. That's all it needs for casuals.
doodullbop@reddit
I know regular people don't care about paper specs typically. They care about games. The Switch 2 has basically no compelling exclusives so I don't know what the big draw is right now.
You keep saying "the same thing will apply and "owning a Switch 2 will be..." and you're probably right. It eventually will be worthwhile. It IS* not right now IMO, so I don't really understand why it's selling so well. People really want to play a worse Mario Kart game that bad? I don't get it, and just chalk it up to the blind consumerism status quo.
Neat_Selection3644@reddit
Have you played Mario Kart?
Goddamn7788@reddit
People buy the Switch for its first-party game IPs.
surg3on@reddit
I get nobody cares about specs. What I don't get is that it's significantly more expensive and has a poor games driven reason to buy it at this moment. Good on em though
DidNotPassTuringTest@reddit
I'm not sure that people don't care. It seems one of the major sentiments are playing switch 1 games with much better performance.
Strazdas1@reddit
well, the experience has been horrible though. the screen issues alone should turn even the casuals away.
BighatNucase@reddit
You are in a bubble or are so hyper-sensitive as to be detached from normal standards.
Strazdas1@reddit
No. the screen lag issues were worse than original switch 1 and worse than even old cheap LCDs. Its one of the worst screens you can get. It was so bad normies were complaining about it looking funny without being able to tell what it is.
BighatNucase@reddit
You want to know how I know you're wrong? Not even the big tech channels reviewing the thing really pointed that out. I think the first real complaint I saw about it was John Linneman from Digital Foundry, all the other big reviews said the screen was great (for an LCD).
BighatNucase@reddit
Part of the problem is that a lot of people have been conditioned into thinking that pure data is the only meaningful review of hardware due to years of "run x benchmark" being the only thing reviews would do. It's why Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed are the most watched channels for this sub, despite both failing at doing much beyond simple benchmark videos (to be fair to HU, they are starting to branch out).
BrushPsychological74@reddit
Yes yes... Nintendo sheep are just like Apple sheep.
UtsavTiwari@reddit
Was this even a surprise? Redditors were having a field day with atrocious prices saying that no one would buy it or it would be a flop, but again it proved that reddit ≠ Average targeted consumers, and a product will be sold if there is cult or fans behind it, see nintendo, apple, nvidia. They all have atrocious prices yet sell the most in their own segment.
rabouilethefirst@reddit
In redditland, Steam deck + PC is the most popular console, android is the most popular phone in america, and AMD GPUs are top tier.
The only thing reddit was really right on was AMD cpus > Intel since the first Ryzen processors dropped.
Strazdas1@reddit
PC is the most popular platform statistically. Steam Deck did not have a lot of sales mostly by limited supply (not even available in my country for example).
Devatator_@reddit
What stats did you dream up where PC is the most popular gaming platform? I'm sure everyone here knows it's mobile in first position then consoles, then PC after that
Strazdas1@reddit
Mobile is larger than PC, yes. But consoles are definitelly not. Not even close.
soggybiscuit93@reddit
If Valve thought they'd enough sales in your country to justify the expense of bringing it there, they would've.
Strazdas1@reddit
I think it was more a case of limited production run. They only had a certain amount produced and saw they can sell all of it in markets they wanted.
soggybiscuit93@reddit
Limited production run was a business decision. If they felt the demand could support the additional production, they'd do so because it would increase per unit margins.
Strazdas1@reddit
I never said it wasnt a business decision. I siad that decks sales are limited because the supply was limited, not because demand was. they had to project the demand years in advance to buy the chips for it. Its not something you can just increase on the spot.
996forever@reddit
No it’s not, Q1 2025 Intel is still heavily outselling AMD massively in the consumer segment.
Darkknight1939@reddit
They still managed to be wrong about the last point. It took until Zen 2 for AMD to actually beat intel. Longer on laptops.
Dreamerlax@reddit
Still I wouldn't consider an AMD laptop, their idle power consumption is still higher than Intel's. More meaningful on a laptop then on a desktop.
DavidsSymphony@reddit
Zen 2 was nowhere near beating Intel in gaming. The only AMD CPU that has consistently beaten Intel's flagship is the 9800X3D. 7800x3D wasn't beating the 14900k, and before that it wasn't even close.
inyue@reddit
You're also wrong because gen1 ryzen were dogshit.
Valuable_Associate54@reddit
imo switch 2 is going to sell a lot less than switch.
~remindme! in two years
Ar0ndight@reddit
The irony of saying "reddit isn't reality" and in the next sentence peddling the usual reddit bullshit of "anyone who buys something I wouldn't is just a cultist".
UtsavTiwari@reddit
No I'm not saying that, I'm saying that reddit may yap all about but they aren't reality and anything that has fans or cult around it will sell regardless of what enthusiasts or vocal minorities say. In summary I'm not saying that anyone who buys something is just a cultist but rather that anything that is either good, targeted or has fans will sell regardless of what redditors think.
_skimbleshanks_@reddit
It's weird to me that your response almost seems to imply that those that bought from those companies, were wrong. If the price looks good to them, it isn't 'atrocious', it's perspective. From the outset the Switch 2 was offering the ability to tap the entirety of the Switch 1 library, with improved performance, and it's already sitting on two highly-rated games with more to come. There isn't anything else on the market that is going to play Mario Kart, that's why it's worth it to them. By all means, Sony or Microsoft are welcome to come along and produce the Mario Kart killer, and yet they don't, so clearly something else is at work here beyond "the consumers are just stupid".
I guess if it makes you feel better to discount it as 'cult or fans', you're pretty much determined not to see it from anybody else's view anyways. The value of the product isn't solely the hardware specs, because the hardware specs are not the only thing you contend with in using it.
127-0-0-1_1@reddit
Ironically they’re making the same kind of mistake the switch is doomed people were making: not being able to understand that other people, shockingly, have difference preferences and prioritize difference things to you.
Their solution is “well, they’re bad but everyone else is just brainwashed and dumb unlike me, an intellectual”.
JapariParkRanger@reddit
Redditors are very bad at understanding anything more than "my perspective good, anything else bad. "
got-trunks@reddit
It's just hobbyist subs that are too hyper-focused.
Darkknight1939@reddit
The entire front page is entirely detached from reality. Take virtually any position that is seemingly a concensus on Reddit, and it's almost guaranteed the average person has the opposite opinion.
got-trunks@reddit
ngl I haven't seen the default front page in like a decade. The thought alone causes discomfort.
inyue@reddit
It was pretty okay before the latest US election and pretty good before rus-ua war...
JapariParkRanger@reddit
It really wasn't. It's been bad since at least the 2016 election.
Warm-Cartographer@reddit
But this time switch hardware isn't bad, reputable reviewers like Geekerwan showed it's competitive with modern handhelds. So even Enthuasist will consider buying switch 2, not just average people.
UtsavTiwari@reddit
I think you're not getting my point, what I meant to say is that despite whatever redditors yap about, the ground reality is a lot different, people will buy what they like they won't care if the product has just got 10% performance boost or node shrink down only got from 14nm to 7nm, consumer will buy what they want, as for the cult I meant to say that the targeted buyers for the mentioned products are not enthusiast but your average joe that only sees experience and not tech specs. Hope that clears up.
RHINO_Mk_II@reddit
Any handheld PC at least as powerful as a Steam Deck can play every Mario Kart up to MK8 and I have little doubt that soon MKW will be playable via emulation as well. I realize that most people aren't willing to do the legwork to set that up, but saying it's impossible is misleading.
MXC_Vic_Romano@reddit
Do people really expect this to be true? Switch 1 cfw owes itself to a hilarious security oversight and an uncaring Nintendo for most of the systems life. None of which are the case with the Switch 2.
soggybiscuit93@reddit
4 player splitscreen MK docked?
Because if you can't easily get 4 people quickly playing MKW on a TV, then one of the main appeals doesn't work
RHINO_Mk_II@reddit
Yes, and there's even a fanmade mod to support 60FPS in 3-4p splitscreen which is not possible on Switch 1
ThankGodImBipolar@reddit
I was never able to get that shit to work on my Deck. I’d happily play 4 player MK8D at 60fps over 30FPS MKW on my Switch 2, but most of my friends wouldn’t agree….
N2-Ainz@reddit
Initial console release is never the problem, it's the long-term support that needs to be kept up.
Hardcore fans will always buy the product, but when they are saturated, who else will buy the console? The normal gamers and they aren't buying everything at high price tags.
Also most people complained about the game pricing and that is still a valid point. There's e.g. zero way that Kirby Air riders is worth 80€, that's honestly is just insane. We will see in 1 year what Nintendo will report about this topic, but I honstely don't see good sales outside of thw major titles like Zelda, Mario, etc... for their games with such high pricing
jm0112358@reddit
Consoles are normally sold out for the better part of a year after their initial release date. The Switch 2 has been out for less than 3 months, so the limiting factor for sales at this point should be supply, not demand.
The fact that the Switch 2 has outsold the Switch 1 at this point really just means that there were more Switch 2's available at this point. Maybe the Switch 2 will sell well in the long run, but that's still TBD.
MassiveBoner911_3@reddit
Reddit reality is not actually reality.
nWhm99@reddit
Actually, yes to everyone here. People keep calling it an overpriced spec bump that no one would want.
Dreamerlax@reddit
Guess no one cares about specs if the games are good, eh?
Strazdas1@reddit
the original wii sold to entirely different audience, at a loss, and came with free games.
Vydas@reddit
The Wii was not sold at a loss, past the early launch window.
Strazdas1@reddit
the Wii is famously the only Nintendo console that sold at a loss overall.
mijal_sunshine@reddit
1) Are you seriously telling us that Nintendo was losing money on an overclocked Gamecube in 2006 ? 2) The Gamecube and 3DS after their quick price drop would like a word
Goddamn7788@reddit
Those who get upset seeing Nintendo use 8nm technology simply don't understand what Nintendo's true strengths are.
Strazdas1@reddit
Litigation and glue eating fanbase?
DearChickPeas@reddit
Why did you say glue eaters twice? The balls on pirates, emulating and ripping games on release day, during the console's active lifecycle deserve everything they get.
Strazdas1@reddit
i was thinking more of things lie suing youtubers for mentioning their games in reviews.
theQuandary@reddit
I bought a Switch 2 and if you want to use one on the go, you are WAY better off with a Switch OLED because the S2 battery life is abysmal. The screen also undeniably sucks with over 45ms response time (around 30-35ms average while normal IPS screens have around 8-9ms worst and 5-6ms average response time). The result of these two is that my S2 mostly just stays docked.
Nobody would be praising Valve if they made a Steamdeck 2 that increased the price by $160 while giving you terrible battery life because it used a 10nm manufacturing process from 2016 (yes, GeekerWan showed that t239 lacks the smaller structures found in Samsung 8nm meaning it's on 10nm+ at best).
I also don't know why the guy below me was getting downvoted. Nintendo is infamous among game companies for their litigation and their constant takedown notices over gameplay footage (obviously fair use) is outright evil.
MrMichaelJames@reddit
So strange to me the numbers on this. Maybe my circle of people I have has simply moved on but they were all super excited for original switch and no one I know has bought a switch 2. When original came out everyone was talking about it but now it’s silence.
Strazdas1@reddit
Same, everyone i know in real life that owns switch 1 said they arent buying switch 2. And thats mostly them buying a console for their children (most of them dont game at all).
saurabh8448@reddit
You know that most people don't buy a console at launch. If they did, it would have sold 100 million in a year.
Strazdas1@reddit
Launch is when the sales are most intense, but traditionally consoles are supply constained a first year.
Sopel97@reddit
people around here don't even know what a nintendo switch is
Doragon_Central@reddit
It’s been 8 years to be fair
Sopel97@reddit
no one gives a shit about ownership these days :(
ithinkitslupis@reddit
So it sold 1.1 million in the US in the first week (same source) and since then has sold 0.9 million over \~3 months while being fairly well stocked? I'm not sure this is out of the woods from Switch 2 just being better stocked and not higher demand. It'll be interesting to see how it looks after a year or two to get a real idea.
Username928351@reddit
Monster Hunter Wilds also broke all kinds of records on release, but then the sales nearly flatlined. We'll see.
DannyzPlay@reddit
Yep, strong start, but given what's currently available and not too many big names on the horizon for titles, it will be interesting to see how sales carry forward.
saurabh8448@reddit
You have pokemon, Kirby and Metroid releasing this year.
Strazdas1@reddit
are they going to make another rehash of 90s game with zero improvements for pokemon?
saurabh8448@reddit
Never said it is going to be good. But it's a big game. They bring tangential argument is the discussion.
-WingsForLife-@reddit
are people going to buy it or not?
jm0112358@reddit
Consoles normally take the better part of a year for supply to match demand (with the PS5 and Xbox Series X taking nearly 2 years). So the sales of the Switch 2 now (less than 3 months post release) really only speaks to the supply, not demand.
TophxSmash@reddit
its saying by the end of july it sold 2 million units in the US.
Confident_Limit_7571@reddit
who cares about only US sales? Give us global data
ScorpionMillion@reddit
What happened with your claims that you will not buy the console. What happened? Your balls drop off? 😀
ScorpionMillion@reddit
Fake numbers, probably. It probably sold 100k.
moochs@reddit
I'm honestly surprised. The console is quite expensive.. I'm wondering if the staying power will be anywhere near the OG switch, considering the economic situation worldwide. Perhaps what we're seeing is front loading of purchasing due to better supply at launch. It's still very possible sales slow down
Geek_King@reddit
I was thrilled about the big jump in prices of games, but I'm really holding off to see if they make a Switch 2 OLED edition.
dabocx@reddit
Its just a matter of when they can get costs down enough to do that. At this point a switch 2 oled would probably cost 550-600.
The switch 2 is 450 and they didn't raise the price with the recent tariffs even though they raised all the accessories and switch 1.
yeshitsbond@reddit
see if? they 100% will, they always make new editions of their current consoles, usually 3 years in
FormulaLiftr@reddit
Will likely follow the same path as the OG switch and release the OLED in a few years time.