Unless you're believing in, and waiting for Digg - The Fediverse has clearly won the alternative to Reddit game.
Posted by Skavau@reddit | RedditAlternatives | View on Reddit | 42 comments
It should be self-evident now. It's by far the most active alternative now. It peaked when it began but its now settled into a stable environment. And if it looks like there's a slow overall activity decline (and there is in terms of Lemmy iself due to the slow decline of lemmy.world and the collapse of lemm.ee) - you'll want to also add Piefeds numbers and Mbins numbers into the mix as two alternative software alternatives that speak with Lemmy instances.
Even as Lemmys own development is now slow, they are by far the most developed alternatives with features way beyond any provisional centralised alternative betas that pop up on here. I'd also argue that they are better served for building new communities than Reddit is. Almost every community name on Reddit now is taken, and controlled by others. If you had communities in mind you want to help develop or support, you likely can't. It's all a closed shop. And some of these subreddits are run poorly or flat-out maliciously. Nothing you can do. They have ownership of the name.
The Fediverse doesn't work like this. It's a federated structure. So if a community is poorly run or half-abandoned by the moderators on one instance, it can be ran out of town by simply building it on another instance. This has happened a number of times on-site. I'd also add that the youth of the Fediverse also means there are many more communities up for-grabs by anyone who wants to build them there. There are various support advertisement communities across the Fediverse designed for helping you to promote them. Piefed itself has access to public topics and feeds that allow people to group communities by theme and then get notifications whenever posts are shared to them. Piefed also has post scheduling, flairs, hashtags for promotion purposes. It's just beyond any small alternative that might exist. It is quieter than Reddit, much quieter, but it's by far more active than any other alternative that might pop up on here.
I suppose one caveat here is if you are right-wing, or reactionary and primarily argue politics then the Fediverse is not for you.
Valiantay@reddit
Until the average user knows what the "Fediverse" is, it hasn't won shit.
Digg is likely going to be the best Reddit alternative.
winterwulf@reddit
only if they add fediverse protocol
Hug_The_NSA@reddit
I know what it is, but I don't know how to use or install it lol.
Skavau@reddit (OP)
Are you interested in it? You don't install anything, you sign up.
Hug_The_NSA@reddit
Isnt the point of it being federated, that it's like matrix where anyone can host their own server and such, but they all communicate?
Skavau@reddit (OP)
Yes.
Embarrassed_Fan7405@reddit
There is no reason why Digg wouldn't fail again
Skavau@reddit (OP)
Won as compared to the other alternatives.
Digg may well "win" but I don't see how it doesn't fall to rapid enshittification.
AppendixN@reddit
Those numbers don't look good at all for the Fediverse.
Reddit gets over a billion monthly active users.
Fediverse traffic is flat at best, possibly declining. If a miracle happened, and it doubled its traffic every year, it would take 14 years to catch up to where Reddit is today.
TankieTanuki@reddit
I don't care if Lemmy has only 100 users. Reddit is a psyop infested with feds.
winterwulf@reddit
ditto
Flamekebab@reddit
Reddit was considerably better when it didn't get over a billion monthly active users. Trying to get everyone on one platform was an awful idea.
whirled-news@reddit
Unfortunately many people still believe a larger userbase equals a better platform, which of course is total bullshit.
Embarrassed_Fan7405@reddit
Mostly bots on reddit
Skavau@reddit (OP)
Right, it's nowhere compared to Reddit. But it's by far better than any other purported Reddit alternative.
Die4Ever@reddit
Don't forget NodeBB which recently became compatible with Lemmy/PieFed/Mbin/etc, also WordPress
Pamasich@reddit
Also Mastodon.
habarnam@reddit
Out of curiosity, how many years do you think it took reddit to get where it is today?
Tetop@reddit
I used to worry about the numbers, but it's now at a point where there's enough traffic that I like it there, the other people who are there also seem to enjoy it, and we are not going anywhere else any time except possibly other federated services.
Growth is fun, but as the fediverse isn't a venture capitalist start-up, it doesn't need it. That's part of the reason why it's more robust than the alternatives - we're there if you want to join us, if you don't... well, we're there anyway, living our best lives.
BlazeAlt@reddit
A few more active posters wouldn't hurt https://lemmy.zip/post/47200831/21067368
Skavau@reddit (OP)
Yeah, Lemmy has major growth potential - but the endgame doesn't need to be infinity numbers. That sort of population on a platform is never healthy anyway.
TraumaJeans@reddit
We don't need everyone to migrate, only those who diskile reddits current issues. those content with it, can continue posting predictable jokes and repost old unfunny memes
h4y6d2e@reddit
Digg was Reddit before Reddit. Digg pissed a lot of people off and everybody migrated to Reddit. Reddit has pissed a lot of people off and they will hopefully migrate back to Digg.
Hopefully Digg learned from its mistakes and will burn Reddit to the ground.
Apollo’s app creator is there. fuck u/spez
love_is_an_action@reddit
At what point does everyone migrate back to LiveJournal?
habarnam@reddit
I feel like no "fuck /u/spez" is balanced without a "fuck /u/kn0thing" alongside it. Ohanian had his share of assholery in reddit history before now trying to resurrect Digg.
Stunning_Repair_7483@reddit
I don't know why Kevin Rose or whoever is responsible hired Ohanian. It's bizarre.
h4y6d2e@reddit
you’re not wrong. But I have more of an axe to grind with that fuckstick spez
HTTP_404_NotFound@reddit
If, you say so.
But, just saying, you are posting about it here on reddit.
Embarrassed_Fan7405@reddit
So what? It's the reddit alternstive sub?
Skavau@reddit (OP)
I meant in the context of all the other alternatives to Reddit.
HTTP_404_NotFound@reddit
I'd agree with that.
Sheesh though, I'm really not a fan of the devs. I jumped ship after they ROYALLY screwed up their response to the flood of CASM content, and even caught them deleting/editing their response on the github comments. Screw that. I don't have time for them. Development of lemmy moves at an absolute snails pace.
Electronic-Phone1732@reddit
There's also mbin (joinmbin.org)
rimu@reddit
PieFed recently added some pretty effective image moderation features with that scenario in mind - https://piefed.social/post/751901
Tetop@reddit
My only reason I haven't deleted my Reddit account is to occasionally chime in to promote the Fediverse, and I only heard of this thread through a discussion on Lemmy.
Yet I've never used Lemmy myself, for concerns similar to yours. I've used mbin in the past, now I'm on Piefed. It's pretty great. Worth checking out. :)
Skavau@reddit (OP)
That's why there's also Piefed now.
HTTP_404_NotFound@reddit
hunh. looks interesting. shall take a deeper look later.
BlazeAlt@reddit
Feel free to share feedback, curious to hear what you think.
privinci@reddit
Lol keep dreaming 😂
Skavau@reddit (OP)
Dreaming what? Out of all of the alternatives, what one is close to the Fediverse?
master_prizefighter@reddit
What I like is if you're banned from one instance (which is difficult from what I've been told) you're just banned from the instance and not running the risk of the entire site/app if you log into an alt acct. There's some subs here I've been wrongfully banned from and been warned about joining from another account. At this point I just unsub, mute the channel, and move on.
WanderingInAVan@reddit
I agree with you in general. Especially when if someone it already running their own WordPress or Drupal or other CMS with an ActivityPub module they can join in easily.
We really should be trying to encourage people to take part in the open web and to enable ActivityPub where possible.
Delicious_Ease2595@reddit
The fediverse is the real alternative if you want to avoid dystopian tech like digital id requirements. It won't take the huge user base of Reddit but like other open source free speech alternatives we have the right place to go.