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jujutsu-die-sen@reddit

Interesting that police haven't released the identity of the two men involved, so no confirmation that they were actually police (which makes sense based on their dress and behavior).

I hate to say it but I think people need to prep for the possibility of more impersonation attempts.

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JMurdock77@reddit

Wonder if they were some of those bounty hunters ICE has been subcontracting with. Unprofessional. Deniable.

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Mixels@reddit

If they keep refusing to show ID, I suspect this is going to happen to a whole lot more of them.

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Takemyfishplease@reddit

Yeah, it’s this exactly the type of situation 2A types have been preparing and warning us about?

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Yes. But the 2A types are overwhelmingly bullies and/or gun fetishizing consumers, so they don’t care about stuff like this until it happens to them. “I hate tyranny and I support the 2A” until minorities and strangers actually need it to defend themselves.

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bravoeverything@reddit

Or they are Ice

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Bitch_IM_TuviX@reddit

You should check out the r/liberalgunowners and r/socialistRA they are not all like you think and say they are.

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BlahajBlaster@reddit

Dont forget r/transguns and r/blackgunowners

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freedomfromthepast@reddit

Liberal gun owner here. I can confirm that liberal gun ownership appears to be increasing. GOOD! We are going to need them.

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Missing-Zealot@reddit

Those people are fake and bullies

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VideoAffectionate417@reddit

ROFL!!! No one is scared of blue haired punks wearing their sister's skinny jeans.

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GlobalEar8720@reddit

Check out my comment/post history. I’m well aware

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DesperateAmbition733@reddit

Yeah I always knew they were full of shit.

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DesperateAmbition733@reddit

Yeah I always knew they were full of shit.

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Own_Mode2025@reddit

It should. Really unfortunate that their bullet proof vests, weren’t.

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Smash_Shop@reddit

Inshallah

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bristlybits@reddit

i wonder how enthusiastic these guys are about going to their job breaking down doors and attacking people, after this

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HommeMusical@reddit

From watching America for a long while, here's what will likely happen:

Some incident will happen where a homeowner who is a citizen shoots masked, armed men who refuse to identify themselves.
Instead of going to the courts, ICE will descend on that house and kill everyone, claiming they resisted arrest.
And then ICE arrests will use deadly force for any resistance, pointing to that one case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Dorner_shootings_and_manhunt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing

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GlobalEar8720@reddit

Christopher Dorner? Know this guy knows ball

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Hero-Firefighter-24@reddit

Fuck the LAPD but also fuck Dorner. He murdered a basketball coach for being his attorney’s daughter.

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daviddjg0033@reddit

This sounds like a left-wing version of a Timothy McVeigh manifesto: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge_standoff https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff Let us not assume that right-wing elements will be docile during the inevitable part when fascists turn against each other in a purity showdown. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bolton Still wrapping my head around how Trump stopped Bolton's security detail as one of the first things he did in Trump 2.0s term AFTER Iranian plots to kill John Bolton were revealed and publicized on 60 Minutes.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/21/politics/john-bolton-security-detail-trump

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HommeMusical@reddit

I do not appreciate being compared with a mass murderer, nor do you make any coherent argument why.

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itsatoe@reddit

...unless this above story is in fact about imposters.
That would muddy the narrative a lot.

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HommeMusical@reddit

Wait, I'm confused. Aren't we fairly sure that yes, the above story is about imposters? Surely if they had actually killed two police officers the shit would have really hit the fan?

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itsatoe@reddit

From the story, I'm gathering that they were not local police. But it is unclear as to whether or not they might have been some of the federally-commissioned people that seem to be arresting people without identifying themselves.

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HommeMusical@reddit

I'm skeptical. If it were an official MAGA, we'd never hear the end of it.

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Iliketowork@reddit

Or theyll "orchestrate" severak incidates and then finally have a registration system for all firearm owners or just make guns illegal all together

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HommeMusical@reddit

I generally agree, but

just make guns illegal all together

That will never happen, nor does the government want that. A populace that is terrified of each other is grist for their mill.

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joeg26reddit@reddit

Gulag archipelago

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Martzillagoesboom@reddit

Florida?

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dyslexic-alien@reddit

VERY. There has been videos of them trying to bust a door open an at least in one case they did. Lucky for them the Hispanic guy moving inside wasn’t armed, and yes, they didn’t have any warrant, they just saw some brown person inside and busted the door open.

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Scary-Button1393@reddit

Americans with any kind of regard for the constitution will.bensad, but your run of the mill Trumper? They're going to feel like captain America

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Fark_ID@reddit

Dude they lowered the bar to becoming an ICE agent to literal zero, no age limit, no education or experience needed. No subcontracting needed.

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brianonanisland@reddit

This is EXACTLY what it’s for

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tonyta@reddit

Maybe it’s like spy agencies who disavow their own agents who are caught.

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Johnny-Unitas@reddit

That's the thing. Looking at this from Canada, I would be debating if I prepare to lawyer up or whether I am ignoring Canadian gun laws and going to sleep with something next to my head ready for a don't tread on me approach. It's terrifying watching what's happening south of the border.

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HommeMusical@reddit

One of the reasons I left the United States is that I started to feel I should be getting a gun to protect against the state and the neo-Fascists, and I lived in a state where guns are strongly restricted (as it should be).

The funny thing is that I went target shooting once, a long time ago in Canada, and my friend who took me said I was a natural, I hit the target from my first shot and got one bullseye - but I simply don't like guns. (Canadians are also very polite, he might have exaggerated.)

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40ozOracle@reddit

P.P. is back in Parliament and he’s going to lean into the villain thing. Just watch.

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steveosaurus@reddit

it’s surreal to go through every day as normal while all this is going on, a new hellish story at the start middle and end of every day 😓

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Danny_Raikkonen@reddit

You're ignorant as fuck

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bs2k2_point_0@reddit

Or they were police acting outside their official capacity and trying to do bad deeds.

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Danny_Raikkonen@reddit

Or they were common criminal ass thugs impersonating police. Which is what happened.

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bs2k2_point_0@reddit

Until they release the info, we don’t know for sure. You’re speculating at this point. I’m sure you’ll end up being right, but we shouldn’t jump to conclusions without the details.

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AlchemyAlice@reddit

How do you know, link please

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jclark77@reddit

Thats too bad.

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eurolatin336@reddit

Interesting how they not blasting this on legacy media , oh wait is trumps America never mind

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simpleisideal@reddit

Corporate media already ran the show long before T arrived, but otherwise I agree with your sentiment.

For anyone who cares, /r/ThePeoplesPress posted the OP 22 hours ago.

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dropbearinbound@reddit

They're just looking on how to throw the guy under the bus in full for shooting their masked, un identifiae, unbadged, silent, armed, kidnappers

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biolochick@reddit

Thank goodness guy had a Ring camera!

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BuffaloOk7264@reddit

Who were they?

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trefoil589@reddit

I hate to say it but I think people need to prep for the possibility of more impersonation attempts.

I genuinely only expect to start seeing more of this.

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FinsAssociate@reddit

There was another story (with video) posted 1-2 days ago. I thought this was the same one, but it's not

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shallal@reddit

People are prepping, the point is to incite a civil war with both civilians and police facing off from each other, and the pop off being Houston man...it is coming. May every person stay safe, protect their families, and remember there are other forces at work trying to incite violence in America. The point of ICE not identifying themselves was to have the discord begin between civilians and cops. Now roll that beautiful bean footage.

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Quick_Step_1755@reddit

Until they release the ID of the dead, I would assume they might have been off duty police. Most of the pro Nazi protesters in the Midwest appear to be off duty police. In one incident, a school security camera caught some of them coordinating with their on duty coworkers before driving a u-haul to a very well protected protest site. Your tax dollars at work, I guess.

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plan4change@reddit

Sources?

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thisbliss7@reddit

Trust me bro. ACAB. /s

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electromage@reddit

If they were police, they'd be screaming about it.

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dyslexic-alien@reddit

Not really because the police department could be investigated and that would open a whole can of worms. It’s very VERY well known, Neo Nazis and gangs work inside police departments

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Big_Fortune_4574@reddit

Maybe not if they weren’t acting in their official capacity and were in fact abusing it

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Not_Campo2@reddit

There was a fairly recent active self protection episode where a liquor store owner was robbed by a guy pretending to be a US Marshal in Houston. His wife came out shooting and they sent the guy to the hospital but it’s absolutely getting more common

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EffortCommon2236@reddit

The police chief from that county said that the police does not wear ski masks like the two idiots did.

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Eziekel13@reddit

Generally can call 911 to confirm…

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SukaSupreme@reddit

It's already happening.

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Representative_Bell7@reddit

I hate to say it but I think people need to prep for the possibility of more impersonation attempts.

With the reports of multiple people pretending to be cops to kidnap women....yeah, it's only going to get worse.

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buttersofthands@reddit

I think we also need to prep for the reality that some impersonators might actually even be "law enforcement" due to the drastic lowering of hiring standards. Basically all you have to be is a racist bigoted piece of shit with a pulse and ice will hire you.

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F6Collections@reddit

Yup. Make sure your ammo can pen body armor.

Most 556 will pen, and you can even find 9mm that will go thru level 3A hard armor.

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Flux_State@reddit

I hate to say it but I think people need to prep for the possibility of more impersonation attempts.

So let's discuss pertinent preps.

I think a door that can't be kicked in should be the first priority. An intercom and closed circuit camera/display to vet the people at your door and allow you to interact with actual police without opening the door

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MuchWheelies@reddit

They weren't police, or you'd be hearing about charges against the home owner. They WEREN'T police.

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Equivalent-Buyer-841@reddit

Assuming these guys were shooting into the house this seems pretty justifiable. That said, this seems only the beginning.

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Rayvdub@reddit

You don’t have to be shot at to use lethal force against intruders.

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not_thebest@reddit

Not in every state. NY is a retreat state, even in your own home. You have to make every effort to retreat before you engage.

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Equivalent-Buyer-841@reddit

No. I’m not a lawyer, but have a basic understanding of rights and responsibilities of gun ownership.

So, them shooting first into an occupied dwelling - apparently through a closed door - makes it an open and closed case of self defense using castle doctrine - as opposed to the homeowner chasing them into the street and shooting them in the back as they flee. In any event cops initiating gunfire into an occupied house isn’t regular procedure. A refusal of suspect to surrender ends up with basically a hostage solution, SWAT, etc. - not some Bonnie and Clyde type shootout by the cops. This appears to meet the criteria for lawful use of a firearm in self defense by the householder as presented. Remember the stand your ground law in Texas doesn’t require the homeowner to retreat. They were in imminent danger and made an appropriate response. If there had been even a police car out front or they had called 911 who told them these were legit cops at the door it would be different.

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faillout@reddit

They weren’t claiming to be police, they were actively impersonating police officers to gain entry into a home. All the fear mongering the news does nowadays they can’t even get it right when it matters.

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Objective-Meaning438@reddit

This is such a good reminder to not panic even when someone saying theyre police are at your door, slowing down, bringing that logical side of the brain back online.

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bonobomaster@reddit

Yeah... they shot at the home owner through his closed door.

Perfect time to at least slightly panic and then kill those fuckers.

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iridescent-shimmer@reddit

I'm not a gun owner, but my husband is. All I know is that shooting through a closed door is usually not seen as self-defense in my state. But if someone shoots you through a closed door, I wonder if it then is okay legally? I know in that moment, you probably just react. I'm just curious about the actual legal repercussions to something like this.

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Wonderful-Impact5121@reddit

I’m not a lawyer, so take that for what it is I just like reading about legal cases here and there; and of course it depends on the location but people have gotten off for shooting someone in self defense who seemingly was facing the opposite direction in their yard after kicking in a door and then turning to flee when they realized someone armed was home.

Every trial would be different but I can very confidently say that if someone is firing through your door/home and you return fire you’ve got an excellent case for legally doing so.

No guarantees, sure, but that’s most of these situations.

It’s a very reasonable response to defend yourself, “are you 100% certain you can hit only your intended target?” isn’t generally the legal standard.

Wouldn’t start lobbing pipe bombs through the front window but you’d have issues regardless there, lol.

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iridescent-shimmer@reddit

Yeah I'm assuming the state law matters a lot. I don't think we have the castle doctrine in PA. I mean, I'd rather live and face a trial than die. But still, gun laws are weirder than I'd expect sometimes.

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SunnySummerFarm@reddit

Live in a state with essentially castle doctrine, but that can’t be your garage or an out building- has to be your house - however you can shoot someone trespassing who won’t leave, standing outside from what I can tell. Laws are very specific and weird.

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iridescent-shimmer@reddit

Ohh interesting. That might partly explain the charges against a local drug dealer who shot people through the door of his little garage outpost. I mean, everything was illegal in that case lol, but might make sense why my sister said they mentioned it didn't have plumbing or a bed, etc.

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SoftlySpokenPromises@reddit

Everything about the castle doctrine says the homeowner was in the right. Let's see how long it takes for the administration to try going after that to let ICE act on their gang ideation.

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Cu_fola@reddit

They might have meant slow down and think about if anything seems off before doing anything like opening the door.

Some people get nervous and comply too easily, other people get nervous and get aggressive too easily.

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SlumLordOfTheFlies@reddit

Exactly, don't open your door whether they're real police or not.

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terrierhead@reddit

My friends have gone from not wanting guns anywhere around them to wanting to carry. I need to get out to a range and practice with what we already have.

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all-i-do-is-dry-fast@reddit

Nothing turns a democrat into a libertarian faster than guns

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terrierhead@reddit

We are lefties. Nothing makes a person embrace 2A like being subject to a tyrannical government.

Also, if you go far enough left, you get your guns back.

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Difficult-Village104@reddit

They're a trump supporting Canadian, there's no rationale behind their beliefs

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FloTonix@reddit

Based homeowner

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shallal@reddit

Prove to me you got some co or dination

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ChardPlenty1011@reddit

Did they name the 2 people who were pretending to be cops?

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DontCountToday@reddit

Hopefully off duty cops, double dipping as ICE agents, getting what they deserve.

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ocean_800@reddit

They shot into the home. Looks like gun ownership working as intended

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DukeOfGeek@reddit (OP)

But also awareness. They wouldn't show badges or a warrant, they were masked. So homeowner wouldn't open door.

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Critical_Host8243@reddit

They wouldn't show badges

"Police said the men were wearing masks, bulletproof vests and had badges around their necks."

-From the article

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rockycore@reddit

The homeowner told police that two men were at their door saying they were police serving a warrant. Police said the men were wearing masks, bulletproof vests and had badges around their necks.

Idk about the warrant but the article states they had badges around their necks.

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babathejerk@reddit

Which is exactly what ICE does.

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fastingslowlee@reddit

When enough agents get accidentally “hurt” they’ll have to change those rules.

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YouIsTheQuestion@reddit

When one agent get hurt it'll be used justify sending in the military. They're already trying to occupy cities.

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HommeMusical@reddit

I upvoted you, but I totally disagree. When agents get hurt, they'll up their firepower and move right to deadly force at the slightest sign of resistance.

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Ape_Rebel@reddit

Exactly, they will not face accountability. That is when they will declare martial law

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Equivalent-Buyer-841@reddit

More like the physics of high velocity metal working as intended. Gotta love science.

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PlanetOfThePancakes@reddit

2nd amendment says what

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trefoil589@reddit

Well Organized Militia.

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Flux_State@reddit

So your saying Manpads aren't unreasonable

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TaterTot_005@reddit

Manpads are necessary to the security of a free state

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Equivalent-Buyer-841@reddit

I’d just rather have an Abrams out in the barn, but to each their own

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TaterTot_005@reddit

Maintenance on the Abrams is a bitch, better get you a boat instead

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Flux_State@reddit

Or especially a free stateless society

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Dirty-Dan24@reddit

Regulated means trained and militia refers to able bodied military age men. That clause is also separate from “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” as determined by the Supreme Court.

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Flux_State@reddit

Regulated means the militia doesn't get to start wars with whomever they please. The people at large decide.

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Dirty-Dan24@reddit

Regardless of how we define “well regulated militia”, individual Americans still have the right to keep and bear arms

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Flux_State@reddit

Correct. The Nation Guard are an army, not a militia

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F6Collections@reddit

And to have the possibility of that occurring, citizens need the ability to bear arms and practice with them freely.

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Altruistic_Key_1266@reddit

Chefs 💋

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-heatoflife-@reddit

Fella seemed well-regulated enough to protect himself and his home without hurting anyone undeserving.

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Awkward_University91@reddit

I don’t see a problem

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Ricky_Ventura@reddit

There shouldnt be, but ICE is using the same tactics as burglar-- claiming police while armed, trigger happy, masked but refusing to ID or show warrants.

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Hunter1127@reddit

That’s what makes this even better news. This should be the end result for that behavior

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dmtwhittling@reddit

i’m not too sure what to expect. we know that the trump admin is gonna spin that “shot heard around the world” in a negative light. but yeah i agree, i don’t understand why current crimes are not meeting this punishment

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Hunter1127@reddit

Yeah agreed. It’s a super messy situation that is not going to go well. It’s really shitty but I don’t see us not going through a rough patch pretty soon here

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Awkward_University91@reddit

I uh still don’t see a problem. Do what you have to.

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HDauthentic@reddit

This is why the whole name and badge number thing is important, if you try to enter a house without a warrant or ID this is what happens. This will eventually start happening to real cops as people lost their trust in the system

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EffortCommon2236@reddit

This will eventually start happening to real cops

Real cops don't wear ski masks, and they do identify themselves before opening fire.

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HDauthentic@reddit

Not always

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HDauthentic@reddit

Do you count ICE and Border Patrol as real cops?

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orbital-technician@reddit

There was a real opportunity for collaborative police reform during the BLM protests.

It would have been as easy as "While we as a police force feel we have statistics on our side, that does not change the fact that for many we have a problem with the image of our policing. We as a police force will do better to serve ALL communities with dignity and respect. We are working with cities to form citizen review panels. If the police and panels are in alignment, we hope the community can come back to viewing us and our role as serving the people."

Instead it was "We never do anything wrong and you just hate cops."

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Adventurous_Bit1325@reddit

2 is how it’s done, however with ICE involved now I’m not sure that applies to how they operate.

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Roo10011@reddit

In Canada the homeowner would be charged

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Adventurous_Bit1325@reddit

Same in the US. This is probably going to be a frequent occurrence. There are a lot more residents with guns than what is officially reported. If someone polled they would say no even though they may or may not have several weapons at their disposal. Things have changed and people are more defensive than ever especially since official ID, warrants and even recognizable clothing are no longer required.

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ctilvolover23@reddit

As they should!

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SolaVitae@reddit

At this point i'm assuming the plan from the government is to have this happen to an actual cop to justify some sort of ridiculous authoritarian nonsense under the guise of protecting the police. This is just such an obvious inevitable outcome that i can't believe it isn't planned.

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Document-Numerous@reddit

Hasn’t this already happened?

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SolaVitae@reddit

Not that I can remember

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MountaineerHikes@reddit

Exactly this! Also, no names were mentioned so it’s probably just basic Fox News rabble rousing anyway

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SubstantialPressure3@reddit

That's typical Houston. That's been a thing with people doing home invasions for at least 10 years that I know of.

Even 20 years ago when I was bartending I had a bunch of guys dressed all in black banging on the door of the bar I worked at after closing saying they were TABC. ( TABC doesn't wear black.) They left when I said I was calling the cops to confirm who they were.

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WaltzIntrepid5110@reddit

It's going to get more prevalent because the modern gestapo are ignoring people when they make demands to see their ID's. There's videos of them all over the internet acting like a bunch of fucking thugs as they hide behind the masks they're wearing while doing the sweeps.

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ReasonablePossum_@reddit

just wait for a couple of them to get shot, and the victim winning in court because of reasonable suspicions of crime, and they gonna start showing it. They were just lucky that none of the peolpe they went after was armed (or they do their due dilligence and dont go after legally armed people LOL)

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FuzzzyRam@reddit

and they gonna start showing it.

I'm pretty sure the current administration will slaughter you if you killed ICE agents trying to kidnap people illegally. You'd be in El Salvadore before you have a chance to talk to the media, at a minimum.

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Teardownstrongholds@reddit

Doesn't matter. The ICE agents will know if their job gets more dangerous. For some of might be a calling, but the ones for whom it's a job will be looking for other work. Also, if they are knocking on your door it isn't to bring the good news of Jesus Christ in the Americas.

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No-Connection7765@reddit

And there probably wouldn't be a news story either. That's what a lot of people seem to be forgetting lately. The system controls the narrative.

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ReasonablePossum_@reddit

Im pretty sure dozen videos of the shootout will go nationwide and will be boostwd by contrarian media sources.

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ReasonablePossum_@reddit

Would depend on the funds you have and connections. Still, even if they end up slaughtering you, after investigations they will find out.why all startded and demand officers to correctly ID thenselves.

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Isaiah_The_Bun@reddit

but thats what makes this so entertaining

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Isaiah_The_Bun@reddit

but thats what makes this so entertaining

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Intelligent-Rest-231@reddit

PRA-VAIL-ANT!

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whoibehmmm@reddit

Blame the fake "federal agents" swarming the country without any form of identification and kidnapping people from the streets. They set the precedent.

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Frequent-Draft-1064@reddit

This has been happening for years Dude

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HommeMusical@reddit

People are downvoting because your argument is this: "This terrible thing has been happening for years, and so it's no big deal that it's increasing."

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Frequent-Draft-1064@reddit

Oh no downvotes. Please not the downvotes. anything but those!!!!

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ScientistTimely3888@reddit

Bro. It's ok to be wrong sometimes.

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HommeMusical@reddit

Yes, it was a bad idea to attempt to be polite and not just come out and say it.

What I should have said is what I was thinking: "Your argument is bad and stupid, and you should feel bad for having wasted everyone's time by making it."

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LordDaedhelor@reddit

Dude, you whined about them in your own edit. Don't pretend now that you don't care.

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Frequent-Draft-1064@reddit

I said lol at them. Whining is a reach. I added the edit to put clarity to my statement that this has been happening and it didn’t just start with ice and what they’re doing.

I care so much about downvotes and karma, please don’t downvote this im very, very sorry for being correct.

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LordDaedhelor@reddit

You cared enough to continue to try and insist how little you care. If you truly didn't, then you wouldn't have even recognized them.

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Frequent-Draft-1064@reddit

You’re right man, I do care. I care so much. There isn’t a man in the world who cares more about this than me. Please, whatever you do don’t downvote.

Or, I could have seen people downvoting and put it in to clarify my statement and to laugh at the people who think ice is the reason people are impersonating cops setting precedent. Funnily enough, the article above is about criminals impersonating regular cops lol. “But ice”

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LordDaedhelor@reddit

Welcome back, guy who insists he doesn't care. Perhaps you care enough to continue to try and prove to me how little you care?

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Frequent-Draft-1064@reddit

Dude, I keep telling you how much I care. That’s why I’m begging you not to downvote. Please don’t downvote me. I’m actually considering deleting my comments even though I’m 100 percent correct because some people are mad at it. I’m not being sarcastic at all. Please, I’m so sad.

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Representative_Bell7@reddit

Fuck off troll.

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LordDaedhelor@reddit

You truly have a vested interest in demonstrating how little you care. Methinks thou doth protest too much.

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Frequent-Draft-1064@reddit

I keep telling you that I do man. It takes so long for me to type this, all the thinking to make a comment that doesn’t make people mad.

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LordDaedhelor@reddit

Welcome back, guy who wants people to think he doesn't care.

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Frequent-Draft-1064@reddit

At this point, we’re both invested into this convo as much as the other.

Welcome back to you as well, how’s your day going?

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LordDaedhelor@reddit

Welcome back, guy who wants people to think he doesn't care.

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Frequent-Draft-1064@reddit

Genuinely, how’s your day going? Got any plans? I’m planning on grilling out later tonight. Maybe go on a run before

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TheFlyingSpaghetti77@reddit

Except its only increasing!

It can be true that impersonations have always existed, and its going to be increasing due to ICE not identifying, which to anyone with a brain should be A. Absurd, B. Asking for property owner lead intervention

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Frequent-Draft-1064@reddit

Because it’s not increasing, it’s always been super high. Go ahead and do my test and educate yourself on the 1000 articles of this every single year.

My point is there isn’t a precedent being set as they said, it’s been happening

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TheFlyingSpaghetti77@reddit

Except it is increasing? We don’t even have a year into this admin and it’s not like they are releasing records.

No fucking shit there are thousands of fucking cases, it doesn’t mean that this does not set a dangerous precedent. This is literally bad for law enforcement and civilian. How can you even defend this dogshit, you love boots or what?

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Frequent-Draft-1064@reddit

Please find where I defended it? Report back to me when you find it.

There are actual studies of cop impersonation and there prevalence throughout the years but since you can’t read or like to make up stuff like me defending this, it won accomplish anything.

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TheFlyingSpaghetti77@reddit

You seem to make up this imaginary thing where you think everyone here doesn’t think this type of shit happens.

when we all have a brain and can put one-and-one together and realize that allowing feds/cops to wear mask and not identify literally just INCREASES these acts, whatever dude idk go argue with a fucking wall or something

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Frequent-Draft-1064@reddit

I didn’t make anything up. I said there was no precedent being set.

You could state there is a precedent being set of instead a regular cops being impersonated, it’s ice agents being impersonated now. It’s the same people, I don’t know why this is hard to follow and I’m not arguing anything as it’s impossible to argue when you are stating a FACT. Which I am.

Cry more about being wrong to a wall I guess :)

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beaucoup_dinky_dau@reddit

right but go back and show me articles where the regular police wore masks and didn't identify themselves, it may be common for criminals to do it forever but you are being disingenuous if this use of ICE isn't a strange way for law enforcement to act. Where I am from I have literally never seen the police cover their face and not identify themselves, maybe this happens in crime ridden states like Texas or Louisiana but not the norm in my life.

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Frequent-Draft-1064@reddit

Never said it was normal.

A lot of you guys have trouble reading or understanding my point.

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beaucoup_dinky_dau@reddit

I get what you’re saying, criminals have pretended to be police for a long time but I think the point is that this is not actions of normal police officers and it will likely impact how people behave going forward.

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Frequent-Draft-1064@reddit

But that’s not what I’m even saying… please I beg one of you guys to actually read what I’m trying to say.

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GeologistCreative842@reddit

"There are actual studies of cop impersonation and there prevalence throughout the years"

Can you give us a link to those please? Actual studies, not just newspaper articles. I'm interested.

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Frequent-Draft-1064@reddit

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257769957_Police_Impersonation_Pretenses_and_Predators

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HommeMusical@reddit

Because it’s not increasing, it’s always been super high.

Citation for your BS claim?

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BuffaloKiller937@reddit

Go ahead and do my test on google

Oh, you're serious? God i love reddit 😂 you still have time to delete this bro lol

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