Military Preparing Attacks on Mexican Cartels
Posted by ConcreteCrusher@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 556 comments
Posted by ConcreteCrusher@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 556 comments
joeg26reddit@reddit
I’m genuinely confused
Are we supposed to be sympathizing with the cartels or what?
CookiesMadeOfCorpses@reddit
No, but the Cartels have their influence and people everywhere and they don't have any rules. They are absolutely ruthless and frightening. Imagine if the Army kills off a few important leaders in the Cartel. They Cartel.kght respond by murdering a bunch of officer's families and mailing their skin to the officers.
Additionally, what exactly does a Cartel member look like? Sure some have the typical face tattoos, and outwardly identify. But so many more are just average looking people because they need to hide in plain sight.
Finally, they have sophisticated logistics networks for all the drugs they move. Imagine that now being used to move arms and munitions. Congrats, your enemy is both inside America already and had the network in place to move things as needed.
ALittleEtomidate@reddit
This is why the Air Force’s Chief of Staff stepped down this week. Fucking. A.
SolarPunkATX@reddit
I guarantee it’s not.
SpaceMonkey_321@reddit
A little more explanation and info if you please
thereadingbri@reddit
The top general in the Air Force, who was also a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (the people in each branch of the military who talk directly to the president and to the heads of the other branches) stepped down several years early (I think it was 3 but I may be wrong) without citing a reason. Each of the Joint Chiefs typically serve 8 years (again I may be wrong, please correct if I am) and its incredibly rare for one to step down early, especially if there are no health issues. It was largely read as a “I know what is coming and I don’t want to be involved,” since these people are at the top of the chain of command in the military and take orders ONLY from the President and the Secretary of Defense.
Agitated-Ad6744@reddit
Here comes America's very own quagmire that Krasnov is gonna expect to win in '3 days'...
Grouchy-Abrocoma5082@reddit
The cartels aren't not on the levels of Ukraine nor do they have nato support
Agitated-Ad6744@reddit
they likely have Chinese support
Russia would be happy to return the favor
Iran would be happy to inflict American losses
nato actually holds back in many ways the villain countries wouldn't.
The American military is in the process of being culled by Epstein's MAGA to remove most of their skilled leaders and any reasonable push back or insightful assessments,
so the troops that are there will be suffering stupid mistakes, bad tactics and deadly ambushes in the coming years.
the sad thing is Epstein's MAGA will blame the troops for the errors made by leadership and cover up the problems rather than use them to innovate.
see: Kremlin Meatwaves
Grouchy-Abrocoma5082@reddit
I honestly don't see the Chinese doing much with the cartels.
Agitated-Ad6744@reddit
I thought the US government had stated China was pumping bad fent unto the states through the cartels.
or that China was posting videos of where in the border fence to breech for illegal immigrants .
that's some frenemy sht right there
Grouchy-Abrocoma5082@reddit
Sounds like some dumb bs trump spouted with no evidence
Agitated-Ad6744@reddit
Potentially.
Trump is a moron
but a quick search kicked up
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw44mdkg0e9o
SergeantThreat@reddit
We just got out of a 20 year quagmire, it’s our bread and butter now
muskratavenger@reddit
Gotta keep the military industrial complex churning.
meatbelch@reddit
You gotta feed the monkey
corpus4us@reddit
Remarkably parallel to Russia invading Ukraine to kill Nazi criminals or whatever.
Babzibaum@reddit
And to the military being in DC. He's scared.
meatbelch@reddit
You gotta feed the monkey
jthon@reddit
Please don’t forget Vietnam, also a 20 year war. We lost a lot of good men in that one as well. We have been stepping in it my entire life. America is the war machine
Miss-Information_@reddit
We never left the graveyard of empires. We're just waiting for the rest of the body to realize we're dead.
nicenecredence@reddit
Damn.
External_Squash_1425@reddit
For real, it keeps the economy humming at this point. Too bad for the boys that will likely lose their lives.
Emmy_Em_Maree@reddit
That was the problem to these blood-thirsty racist freaks
Unfair_Bunch519@reddit
This, remember when that Trump appointee got her purse stolen? Now imagine that happened to every Trump pick but instead of theft it’s gunfire. The cartels have huge local support in America down to the churches and school districts, a conflict with them would be very bloody and very decisive
Pretty_Average7705@reddit
Huh, probably means we need to increase deportations then.
Kitso_258@reddit
Joint Chief of Staff usually serve for 4 years in that role, not 8. Gen Alvin is 2 years in.
thereadingbri@reddit
Thanks!
Spare-Willingness563@reddit
Fuck him for steeping down rather than disobey an unlawful order.
How does that shit help us?
Spunknikk@reddit
I rather have him alive and building support in the shadows then dead or locked up in a black site for disobedience against Dear leader.
Takemyfishplease@reddit
How about writing a book and getting a guest tv spot instead? Cause that’s way more likely.
Spunknikk@reddit
We live in a bureaucracy... The military is basically a logistics company and the best one in the world.
With logistics and bureaucracy you need competent people. And losing them is a huge blow.
if things are going to full on fascist society these people will either be the first to be arrested or killed a canary we should be aware of. Or else they'll be the first to organize opposition since they have the skills to combat against the system.
Let him write a boon or TV spot .. the revolution won't be free... It's built on food and ammo to the troops.
Shrewta@reddit
It ain't unlawful. It's immoral and abhorrent, but not illegal. Trump designated the cartels as foreign terrorist organizations and, therefore, has the legal ability to order a strike. The general also can't leak info to the press because that whole prison thing, but resigning helps raise some alarm bells.
zatalak@reddit
Doesn't matter what Trump declares, it could still be an illegal order:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_order_(international_law)
Everything the Nazis did was 'legal' at the time, that's more or less why we have international criminal law in the first place.
Zoomercoffee@reddit
International criminal law isn’t real unless you can enforce it
80sLegoDystopia@reddit
US and our “greatest ally” in the ME make enforcing it impossible.
Zoomercoffee@reddit
The US made international law after ww2 to punish people it didn’t like in a “legal” way. That institution would never be allowed to be turned on the US
Shrewta@reddit
Yeah, that's a pretty simplistic view of the Nuremberg trials. It wasn't just people the us "didn't like." Yes, great powers never have their people tried in the court. That is a tragedy, but every war criminal tried is one less animal in the world. The ICC has nothing to do with the US currently as the US isn't even a signatory to the treaty and also the "invade Belgium" law.
It's messy, but no, the ICC isn't a US puppet to imprison people it doesn't like.
PotentialIcy3175@reddit
Ha, he meant US law. International law isn’t really a thing unless you are a powerless nation.
Wade_Castiglione@reddit
Indeed my friend.... Just because something is legal doesn't make it "right" or even humane for that matter.
Jonnie_Rocket@reddit
Dude could have been a hero
LordCanis@reddit
JCOS have relatively limited control over Combatant Commands. If an order was sent down to Airforces South Command and he countermanded it, the lower level commander would still be able to act on it, and it gets worse because it's a joint environment that unit is subordinate to SOUTHCOMM which would be the order recipient not him.
It's his way of saying this shits not right don't do it.
nobodyisfreakinghome@reddit
SCOTUS says nothing Trump does is illegal.
DarthSlymer@reddit
I don't fault him here; I applaud him for standing up and if he isn't working for the military he can work directly with WE the people now. Clearly he is a man in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.
easymachtdas@reddit
What exactly are his options?
Takemyfishplease@reddit
Going to congress I guess?
texas130ab@reddit
He knows that it will not be an unlawful order.
Snazzlefraxas@reddit
Great. The bravest of America’s last moral bastion are heroically quitting their jobs. This next part is going to be totally awesome.
Automatic_Candle3830@reddit
Gen Allvin is being forced to retire. Whiskey Pete wants sycophants.
mistahelias@reddit
The cartel are know to retaliate against the families of those making orders. This person stepping down probably did it for this reason.
Remarkable-Fish-4229@reddit
I very much doubt the cartels would have the balls to assassinate a 5 star general. Even if they could pull that off, they would be completely fucked and the US would not stop until their head was on a pike. They learned that lesson when Kiki Hernandez was killed.
LengthinessOk5667@reddit
Air Force general and Chief of Staff David Allvin stepped down before the end of his term, two years into a four year term.
A very unusual behavior that unfortunately has been common over the past seven months General David is only the latest example among mass exodus of high ranking officials.
Pan Bondo our current attorney general is an example of how General Davids chair will be filled with some disgraceful individual, likely someone spineless and unfit for the position.
PM_ME_YOUR_QUEST_PLZ@reddit
having the competent people step down is the wrong fucking move when it comes to the nation uniting against a tyrant president. we are all cooked if the first choice is to run away.
a_duck_in_past_life@reddit
Won't they just be fired if they don't step down?
4peaks2spheres@reddit
historically military members and leaders have been very integral in fighting back against fascism. Basically, if enough military leaders were on the same page they could take over the government. Wouldn't be the revolution we need, but it might be better than this Oligarch run shit storm.
Altruistic-Text3481@reddit
Oligarch Robber Barons will take over. Then they will start flying out of HighRise Trump Tower buildings when it isn’t working according to plan. How they don’t see their own demise is really astonishing.
4peaks2spheres@reddit
Lol they've already taken over. Haven't you seen the massive transfer of wealth from the working class directly into Oligarch bank accounts? Trillions taken from working class public services, transferred directly into huuuuge tax breaks and private contracts for the Oligarchs.
Altruistic-Text3481@reddit
The stock market is completely a ponzi game…
4peaks2spheres@reddit
Lol it's not the stock market. It's the tax break for the Oligarchs in the trillions....
Emmy_Em_Maree@reddit
You're literally describing a military coup. The very thing Team uSA has done with devasting precision over the past 130 years
4peaks2spheres@reddit
Military coups are different from what I'm talking about. For example the military was a huge part of why the Russian revolution was successful, many of the military sided with the people, since they were the people.
Emmy_Em_Maree@reddit
I don't think you get it. The military taking over the government (as you said your comment), in an extra-constitutional manner is definitely a military coup. That's a n objective and very basic poli-sci concept.
4peaks2spheres@reddit
Yes, it does. A military coup can be on the side of the working class. This type of coup is more rare, and definitely not ideal. But that type of interim government is better than a fascist government, especially if a real democracy can be established afterwards.
The USA has been an Oligarchic Republic since its inception; please read the federalist papers to understand what the founding fathers thought of democracy. Hint: they didn't want or create a democracy.
Leather-Cash-389@reddit
So you’re against democracy?
4peaks2spheres@reddit
We don't have a democracy. We have had an Oligarchic Republic since the country's inception. Read the federalist papers to learn what the "founding fathers" thought of democracy.
tadysdayout@reddit
Military leaders famously love fascism. The military has never been our friend
4peaks2spheres@reddit
Yes, this can be true as well, but many revolutions were aided by military rebellions against the regime in power, throughout history.
Irverter@reddit
A military rebellion against whoever is in charge is ont the same as the military rebelling against fascism (or any dictatorship/tyranny).
In fact, most dictatorships are in place because the military either put it in place or keeps it in place.
4peaks2spheres@reddit
Yes, no argument there. I'm hoping for the better scenario though.
DuckGorilla@reddit
Military overthrew English rule and defended the Alamo
Usual_Let5223@reddit
Whilst also Murdering Civilians in Vietnam and Afganistan.
Emmy_Em_Maree@reddit
Defended the Alamo? You really think the people who can in and stole Texas from Mexico are heros? Fuck them. They all deserved to be slaughtered.
Altruistic-Text3481@reddit
Yes
corpus4us@reddit
There might be legal liability or significant financial repercussions (eg lost pension) to refusing order.
write-program@reddit
Make them do it.
4peaks2spheres@reddit
Right, I would be a roadblock as long as possible.
Lopsided-Ticket3813@reddit
Yeah pretty much. If he was against strikes trump would remove him and keep going down the line until he found a yes man.
Spunknikk@reddit
I'm sure we're well past the you're fired phase of things and very close to the you're a traitor and must be hanged phase...
ratmouthlives@reddit
That or lead a coup against the sitting president.
Vegetable_Guest_8584@reddit
When Trump inevitably orders the military to fight Americans protesting about their city being taken over, there will probably be people fighting about it in n the streets. It's easy to see Trump ordering things that are illegal, we are already started down that fascist road. We need these experienced senior us military officers to protect us, refuse illegal orders. That's going to be a tough choice because you know Trump will come down so hard on the first few. I am saddened about even needing to worry about it.
SweatyTax4669@reddit
The right answer for an officer, especially one at that level, is to resign rather than carry out orders he believes are immoral. It is, in fact, his moral obligation to do so.
FatCat457@reddit
We have mo mercenaries than active duty it pays more these people are just in the shadows
No-Abalone-4784@reddit
Scary, scary. Bad, bad.
RandomTO24@reddit
So what would you rather him do? From his position, perhaps he knows of the Nuremberg trials and thinks "Boy, I'd rather not be like those guys and say 'I was just following orders.' That wasn't a good excuse!"
Takemyfishplease@reddit
So take the cowards way out after sending how many young people to die?
YeetedApple@reddit
They would likely just pass the orders to the next person going around him. He has no power to actually stop anything, so refusing to be a part of it is all that he can do.
dyslexic-alien@reddit
So 2000 pounds bombs landing in Mexican cities?
PokeyDiesFirst@reddit
At least not at first.
It begins with signals reconnaissance, which has been ongoing since he got into office. This transitions to physical reconnaissance with drones and ground assets (deltas, generally) with strong HUMINT stuff being sourced.
Strike packages are drawn up and presented, and subsequently approved. JSOC will have their hands all over this, maybe some SOCOM stuff mixed in. Trump likes a show, so SEALS, maybe MARSOC or Rangers. Doors getting kicked in, specific heads of specific snakes being captured or killed.
After this happens a few times, the remaining heads of the cartels will begin to fortify themselves in heavily populated areas to avoid capture, and will arm and entrench themselves to make it as difficult as possible to get to them.
That is when I would start to worry.
Majestic-Bowler-6184@reddit
So...is this a way to bring a more immediate militant approach against anyone Trump finds to be a dissident? It's a known tactic to plant evidence.
No...no. If the Taco in chief were clever this would be my main worry. And it still is a concern! But I think he legit wishes to punch Mexico. Oi vey.
Disastrous-Case-3202@reddit
Trump is little more but a figurehead for the Heritage Foundation. I'm sure someone he has surrounded himself with, or someone in bed with the HF, Peter Thiel/Palantir, or any of the other fascist persons/organizations like Yarvin have thought of that detail, however. Don't rule it out just yet.
OtherwiseAMushroom@reddit
It’s a bit worse then that I’m thinking, I read somewhere the main goal of Putin, is China in the east, Russia takes Europe, the Americas have ALL the americas. Ten bucks the “Cartels” soon go all the way down to South America and by gosh are they in Canada too.
God damn I hate this.
lapidary123@reddit
Well if the truly multi-polar world goes into effect Russia most likely becomes a vassal state of china...
Aloysiusakamud@reddit
Jerusalem in the Mid East. Literally nowhere to run.
free_content_for_you@reddit
Almost the plot of Clear and Present Danger (1994)
Mando177@reddit
Is the Mexican military not a factor here? I’m certain they’ll have basic air defense at least
popthestacks@reddit
They are in that we will now be at war with Mexico, the government, not just the cartels. The cartels are so deeply ingrained in government, they’re one and the same. Mexico will reach out for allies and who do you think they’ll run to….BRICS will be right there waiting.
s0berR00fer@reddit
lol you’re truly a nutter.
popthestacks@reddit
What part of it makes me a “nutter”? Or are you just speaking out of fear? Such an “argument” doesn’t give confidence that you’re speaking from a place of knowledge or experience
Mando177@reddit
Russia can’t do shit, they’re not the USSR anymore. India is more on Americas side than anything, and China didn’t like getting involved even when Iran, a closer ally, was in trouble. The Mexicans will have to manage on their own
No_Opening_2425@reddit
India is so not on Americas side
thegreatrusty@reddit
They're military units are equipped with ww2 surplus.
DarkOmen597@reddit
And just today, didn't one of the groups come out saying they are working with the US?
apefromearth@reddit
The Sinaloa cartel was supposedly given protection by the US in exchange for information about the Zetas and the Jalisco guys. That was quite a while ago though.
Coz131@reddit
This is the worst part. They are siding with the sinola. Unless the sinolas agree to put down their arms, the US is basically siding with terrorists in their definition.
daveofdevin@reddit
Mujahadeen, alqueda, taliban, isis all started as US funded groups. If you want to know Americas next enemy, just see who we are funding today
02meepmeep@reddit
Right now we’re apparently funding the hell out of ICE.
Takemyfishplease@reddit
It’s our way with countries to the south.
DraconianNerd@reddit
And the cartels will hit soft targets on American soil.
JefferyTheQuaxly@reddit
i would also start expecting significant terrorist activity in america, unlike the fake conservative panic with muslim extremists infiltrating america, thats not a pipe dream for the mexican cartels, they do have a lot of men hidden and stationed around america. if america declares all out war with the cartels i wouldnt doubt were going to start seeing them declare war right back at us.
i know someone who spent years locked up in jail for a fairly violent and drunk crime, he specifically was close friends in jail with someone who use to be a mexican cartel operative working out of america tasked with disposing the cartel's state wide enemies, which he would do so at his alligator farm he had, would feed people alive to the gators so no one would ever find them. he proceeded to leave the cartel business, but continued killing prostitutes for sexual gratitude which is how he ended up getting caught. The cartels probly have hundreds of people just like him.
80sLegoDystopia@reddit
I fear the IDF set the standard for what comes next.
Acceptable_Bat379@reddit
Not to mention that there will very likely be retaliation within the US. Who knows how many agents the cartels really have within the states but they're surely well protected and willing to do violence at a level we're not used to seeing. Its very possible we'll see some kidnappings or targeted killings
Googgodno@reddit
No. The cartels will keep their heads down and let the POTUS declare victory. And this too soon will pass, like UK trade deal, Korean Trade deal, EU trade deal and "Freedom to LA".
OppositeArt8562@reddit
How will this affect illicit drug prices and culture in thr USA?
JoeGibbon@reddit
That might impress you, but historically Trump likes bombs. Elite forces whole MO is to get in and get out quickly and quietly, not make a show.
Tall_Estate_9753@reddit
Or they move all this stuff down there, do a bunch of saber rattling, nothing happens, Trump declares victor. See every other fucking Trump military operation for any citation
salomanasx@reddit
I agree with your prediction. The perception of results is all that matters.
a_duck_in_past_life@reddit
The time to start worrying was ten years ago. I unfortunately didn't see it until after he won the first election (I forgot to vote because I was stupid and didn't try hard enough for mail in ballots while in the military), but some did. Hillary did. She warned us all that her winning against Trump would be our last chance as a nation, and we ignored her because [insert reason that pales in comparison to what Cheeto has done].
abdallha-smith@reddit
Like bombing tribes labelled « houtis rebels » and congratulate group chat with goteam ! 🇺🇸
DuckGorilla@reddit
Congress postponed voting to release them until September, when the cartel invasion is supposed to start.
Antique-Butterfly-12@reddit
The only way we can make Mexico actually fight the cartels instead of letting them run the country is to make everyday Mexicans MORE AFRAID OF WHAT WE WILL DO than of what the cartels will do. The ONLY way.
so-sick@reddit
Lame question bro.
Relative-Ad-6791@reddit
I think there will be an attack on Venezuela Putin my have given the green light
Emmy_Em_Maree@reddit
Genuinely curious, in your mind, what does Putin have to do with this insane action, led presumably by Little Marco?
Michellenjon_2010@reddit
There are 3 US warships headed to the coast Venezuela NOW 🫣
OppositeArt8562@reddit
That Venezuelan oil needs to be liberated. Stars and bars baby. /s.
Acceptable-Bat-9577@reddit
It might have something to do with the Air Force forcibly canceling the retirement of eligible transgender service members. And if that's the reason why David Allvin stepped down then I retract my previous comments about him. There's not much integrity left in our military right now, though. I say this as a retired Marine Corps/Army veteran.
What's going on right now is disgraceful, shameful, and destroying the military's good legacy, and bringing back the bad. When this steaming shitfest is over with and our nation regains its sanity, I will not let our military forget that they betrayed our service members, us, as in our veterans, all Americans, our country, and their oaths to defend the Constitution.
DJbuddahAZ@reddit
Is it though
Far_Out_6and_2@reddit
Good point
SecretSquirrelSquads@reddit
I am trying to figure out the sources and the credibility of this news in another sub.
Someone with official information please correct me but here are my concerns if this is true, the cartels are not *just* in Mexico, they are everywhere, including living in the USA and if they want they can bring the war here to the USA.
So
1. This is not true
2. This is a leak to get us to forget about the E. files
3. This is true but with the cartels/Mexico "controlled attacks" agreement, which will still cost civilian casualties and others to flee to the USA.
4. This is true and it will become a war on both side of the border.
I really hope is No. 1, but none of this is good.
Beelzeburb@reddit
That’s because when Americans die we accept authoritarianism. Trump has been seen with Trump 2028 merch and he made comments to zelensky about not having elections during war.
So as I type, the ice raids make a little more sense. Invade Mexico but only after you racially profile anyone who is the same skin tone as the cartel.
I still think he will pass before 28 but he laid some serious groundwork for whoever comes next to rule like Putin.
thereadingbri@reddit
We are also sending military ships with missiles loaded down to the waters off of Venezuela to allegedly fight drug cartels. But considering that the White House has a 50 million dollar bounty on the President of Venezuela, Nicholás Maduro, AND Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the world, even larger than Saudi Arabia, I could see that easily escalating into a war in Venezuela akin to the Iraq war. I hope I’m wrong.
Test-Equal@reddit
Look up BRICS—an economic War has begun. Trade wars and tariffs are part of it. Mexico and Venezuela are thinking about joining—WAR with these countries—please look up BRICS—devaluation of the dollar and having the Yuan as the world currency is the goal. America is seeing a loss of its dominance with the dollar—like loosing the war already. Many think The US is seeking to expand too—a new colonialism to invade the north and south countries—invasion of Canada too —all of these countries have oil
Mydden@reddit
Right... but like... Trump is causing the devaluation of the dollar at the moment...
Beelzeburb@reddit
That’s a very important piece of the puzzle I forgot about. Thanks
Elganleap@reddit
BRICS doesn't have the goal of making Yuan a world reserve currency, because if it become so, China will no longer have control over it. Their currency is one of the most heavily controlled one in the world, supply and demand mechanics don't really apply do it. They want it devalued to keep their export cheap, as a world reserve currency, they can't do this.
So far BRICS nations are trading in their own respective currency and are trying to replace the SWIFT system with their own one..
They don't want to give another nation the same economical power as the US, they took for granted. US' practice of constantly denying nations from trading in Dollar thanks to overzealous sanctions and strong arming SWIFT to kick them out, preventing them from using international banking.. has made nations afraid.. They don't want to be Cuba.
No_Advice3660@reddit
And the only reason the dollar is going down is because of the buffoon
SunnySpot69@reddit
So....more rice and beans it is.
Pizzasupreme00@reddit
Don't worry, you are.
AliceCode@reddit
Beelzeburb@reddit
Thanks for sharing
YeetedApple@reddit
When you look at how many people and resources the cartels already have in the country, the level of violence they could bring in an insurgency would easily get most people to accept military being deployed to the streets for security, and would likely be their pretext to say it is not safe to hold elections and try to cancel them
Beelzeburb@reddit
1000%
I mean they had beheadings in Mexico last week. Can you imagine the public reaction if they happened in a major city here?
Whatever happens now is the time to meet your neighbors arm and train yourself and those close to you.
Michellenjon_2010@reddit
Laid some serious groundwork for whoever comes in next.....
That will be Vance. And we won't have a choice.
New-Win-2177@reddit
The recent news of deploying the National Guard to 19 states perhaps lends credibility to scenario 4. Trump is expecting turmoil to hit the States.
Festering-Fecal@reddit
Trump gave safe passage to cartels and their kids.
They are in America.
Besides this the government has historically worked with cartels party to try and back 1 to keep the others suppressed as well as make dark money.
What im saying is this won't work. Most people think they are just a gang and that's true for the lower end ones but towards the top they wear suits they go to meetings they have Swiss bank accounts.
It's operates like a company that sells a product a ruthless and cutthroat one.
They also have ties to China importing raw materials for certain drugs like the new and more dangerous meth( p2p)and fentanyl.
This isn't a problem you fix by bombing
Spunknikk@reddit
This isn't about cartels it's about starting a war and crisis. They need it to prevent elections and to take complete control because Mexican cartels are in America and the government needs to keep you safe.
Festering-Fecal@reddit
There's no way in any word war happens without other countries backing Mexico.
The 3 letter agencies also do business work with them and have been since the 80s.
There's a reason they get American guns and we get their drugs.
Spunknikk@reddit
That's the old system... We no longer live in that world. MAGA only cares about its own self preservation. That means no elections and trump openly admitted about a potential war to prevent elections like Ukraine has...
But other than that I would 💯 agree with you because you aren't wrong.
LegitimateVirus3@reddit
No problem has ever been fixed by bombing and yet here we are- with a long history of bombing and not learning from history.
Useful_Violinist_451@reddit
I’m sure the Japanese would agree with your statement.😀😀😀
despot_zemu@reddit
Those who learn history are doomed to watch everyone else repeat it.
gomizzou09@reddit
Well no problem since 1945 at least.
massivecastles@reddit
Perhaps we should secretly support a regime change that always works
SecretSquirrelSquads@reddit
Exactly.
I am skeptical of the news because I agree it won't work.
But our current political climate seems to be to be determined to make headlines and create conflict so who knows what will happen.
So again, not good.
reccenters@reddit
I guess the question is: What is the goal of the strikes?
If the goal is to knock out the cartels, LMAO. It's a fool's errand
If the goal is to create a crisis that creates a crisis that solidifies power for one political group, well... I don't have faith that voters are smart enough to see through it.
Severe-Illustrator87@reddit
It's Trump, it doesn't matter that it won't work. The point is just to create a fiasco.
Biotic101@reddit
This is on spot. But the society the oligarchs want to create is run like a cartel/Russian mafia.
Just look up Project 2025 and the Dark Enlightenment.
Actions speak louder than words.
Can't trust anything the current government is saying.
Ernesto_Bella@reddit
Bear in mind Klippenstein is a literal CIA cut-out. So what is most likely true is the CIA told him to run this article, probably to put pressure on Mexico to get Mexico to do more.
AnbuGuardian@reddit
Unfortunately this guy is legit, he is tight with intelligence and military officials. This is the same douche bag that posted about David Grusch’s post traumatic stress disorder after the intel was leaked to him by the intelligence community. That sucks we are bombing our neighbors instead of focusing on the epidemic domestically.
UncleCarolsBuds@reddit
Do you mean the Epstein files?
tippycanoeyoucan2@reddit
War with Mexico would instantly be a one-sided insurgency. Some cities would fall instantly.
Welllllllrip187@reddit
They could use this to “pause” elections due to “wartime” sadly it feels likely to be 4.
LaconicDoggo@reddit
Its true about the MEU being deployed. Thats the part that I’m not ok with. Sending a couple Burkes is normal activity for drug ops. You don’t send an entire marine battalion to sit on the boat and workout in the ship’s gym. If they are going there, the possibility of deployment on some kind of operation is far far more likely than not.
SecretSquirrelSquads@reddit
Wow, so ships to Venezuela and an attack on Mexican cartels? A war on 2 fronts? Are they trying to get territory? Is this a Russia/Ukraine situation? I could see this admin being ignorant enough to think that would work.
Yeah, nothing good is going to happen. Not sure how to prep for that.
LCDmaosystem@reddit
People have already forgotten about the Epstein files lol. Memory of a goldfish
SecretSquirrelSquads@reddit
I have not. This is off topic but my concerned that this is not a just files situation but an ongoing situation, there are still children victimized and whatever setup is still active thus the strong push to obfuscate and delay.
AntiBoATX@reddit
I’ve met them. They’re in our neighborhoods.
OppositeArt8562@reddit
Which MAGA or cartels?
despot_zemu@reddit
same difference
PickingPies@reddit
This is also a provocation to use the martial law.
mordwand@reddit
People are posting blatantly false and hysterical shit like this as part of a coordinated campaign across Reddit.
SecretSquirrelSquads@reddit
Please comment on the veracity (or lack of) of the news source. Otherwise, it seems that you may be the one posting rumors.
I am actually am interested in verifying these claims. Not rumors. If you have any credible to contribute, please do so.
mordwand@reddit
I’m just telling you my opinion based on what I’ve seen on this sub. Here’s a good overview:
https://youtu.be/95qFIQoklrw?si=p-mOgR1x8nOuhmW2
I would say it is simply too early to tell if and to what extent military action will be taken.
SecretSquirrelSquads@reddit
Thank you for the YouTube video. I will check it out.
DukeOfGeek@reddit
I clicked on a random part of it and it was about "His bold steps to confront bla bla bla.".
mordwand@reddit
Sure thing, crazy times we are living in.
mordwand@reddit
Not saying that 100% this can’t happen, but I’d take these sorts of posts with a huge grain of salt because there is a foreign agenda behind them.
SecretSquirrelSquads@reddit
So you are saying the source is not credible?
mordwand@reddit
I’m saying this sub/site isn’t credible, so I’m not sure whether this is true or not. Last week it was an “imminent invasion of Venezuela”. Check out open source intelligence, Preston Stewart had a good video on this. It’s unclear how far this directive will go.
hockeymaskbob@reddit
This sub has declared "this is a false flag to enact martial law" every other week since January
mordwand@reddit
Seriously lol.
twohammocks@reddit
is this a targeted attack on 'the Jalisco New Generation Cartel. As of May 2025, sources from the Queretaro mines told investigators that a new “mercury fever” has hit the region since 2025, triggered by record high prices (US$330 per kilogram of mercury) offered by mercury traffickers, as a consequence of skyrocketing gold prices. According to EIA’s investigation, Mexican mercury flows to often cartel-controlled gold mines in Bolivia, Colombia, and Peru, with some transhipment via the U.S. For instance, drug cartels in Colombia control an important part of domestic mercury trafficking routes. According to conservative estimates, the smuggled Mexican mercury has been used for the extraction of, at the very minimum, US$8 billion worth of illegal gold (at the current price of US$3,300 per ounce)'? https://eia.org/press-releases/toxic-tons-the-largest-flow-of-illegal-mercury-to-the-amazon-exposed/
Is this actually all about gold?
Katedawg801@reddit
MAGAts have been hearing it about it for at least a year from their talking heads like Steven bannon etc bc one I know has been telling mw that which I said it disgusting 🤢 lots of Americans live there. They want to topple the remaining democracies aka MX & CA to start
OnlineParacosm@reddit
Klippenstein is good
TheZingerSlinger@reddit
Both outside and inside the US being a key point. Air Force staff chief dipping out before having to deal with drone strikes in L.A.? I would have said that was crazy talk a year ago. Not so much now.
irsh_@reddit
This will play right into the MAGA narrative if cartels start shit in the US, and Americans are already armed.
mysticeetee@reddit
It's a leak but it's true.
Striper_Cape@reddit
Ken is legit, so I'm actually afraid to read it lol
NoTerm3078@reddit
I guess we will know in a month.
Eric_Durden@reddit
This would be a bloodbath.
Psychicgoat2@reddit
100%. If we send troops into Mexico, it's like sending troops into Vietnam. This will not end well.
Mouthshitter@reddit
And they are on a fucking LAND border... and the cartels are already in America
YeetedApple@reddit
Not only are they here, but have access to serious weaponry, deep pockets for funding, and covert logistics and communication networks already in place. The type of insurgency they could create here would likely be unprecedented.
Mydden@reddit
... fuck, maybe *that's* why he's deploying the national guard everywhere...
surfershane25@reddit
And I’d be shocked if a bunch of them weren’t in the military or are former military… such a dumb timeline
Deus_is_Mocking_Us@reddit
Seriously, as a ham radio nerd, I encourage everyone to read about the cartels shanghaiing telecom personnel to build out their own comms networks. It's insane.
Kangas_Khan@reddit
This…actually might be worth keeping in mind later on
Icy-Low8972@reddit
I'd be more concerned with the Americans that'll lose their minds when the spigot is turned off. That problem will have to be dealt with.
ThrowAwayGarbage82@reddit
And then they can declare a national emergency under the insurrection act, announce martial law, and people will cheer it on under the guise of "safety". This is in P25, they were hoping citizens would rise up in the face of fascism but that didn't work so now we're here.
duzersb@reddit
A great reason to cancel the midterm elections
GodHatesColdplay@reddit
Ding ding ding
Brief-Floor-7228@reddit
Not sure he can. I think each state would judge that and by the constitution there is no situation where you don't have a vote. So you would have a situation where blue states would run elections and reds wouldn't. I would expect a lot of lawsuits from Dems in red states for not holding the elections.
While these lawsuits would end up at SCOTUS there isn't really any interpretation of the constitution they could take (even wild ones) that would state that the constitution allows for the cancelling of elections.
YeetedApple@reddit
Yep. He'll claim it is too dangerous to hold them in person, and conveniently is already going after mail in voting to get rid of that as an alternative.
spartennw@reddit
More the reason to kill them now and strip them of that power
ReefJR65@reddit
I’d feel very uncomfortable living in Texas right now
Fibroambet@reddit
No joke, he’s made border states way less safe. Pisses me off that anyone thought he’s anti-war.
front_yard_duck_dad@reddit
If the cartels start popping out guerilla style attacks in all the cities they reside in the USA would be Ukraine in days. It will be like playing whack a mole. No way can they keep up
OppositeArt8562@reddit
Who would be the primary target of their attacks? Would they just start attacking civilians or military or what?
front_yard_duck_dad@reddit
Civilian. It will demoralize the populace and give trump unrest and wars on many fronts. The US doesn't do well with guerilla war. No way they have any idea how many cartel members are in the US.
tadysdayout@reddit
We don’t do guerilla warfare well by choice. Ending/“winning” those wards was never priority
front_yard_duck_dad@reddit
Sure hasn't stopped the US from trying over and over again. Boondoggles in Iraq Afghanistan, Vietnam.
tadysdayout@reddit
Those are the wars I was talking about. They were boondoggles on purpose
front_yard_duck_dad@reddit
Sorry my friend. I was working in the sun when I responded I didn't it get it the first time. I understand you now. My bad
DuckGorilla@reddit
I guess we would see how successful ICE actually was at deporting undocumented criminals and gang members
front_yard_duck_dad@reddit
All the little abuelas selling tamales being gone sure makes me feel safer
DuckGorilla@reddit
Yea visiting Home Depot’s and profiling probably isn’t the best way to target violent criminals
front_yard_duck_dad@reddit
All I know is I do tree work outside of a big city and I am seeing a lot of light crews. Most of us couldn't take on any more work if we wanted to and now we've got big storms hitting the area
FatherOften@reddit
We don't do well with guerrilla warfare.In other countries, in our country, we would stomp it out so quickly. The bad part in the very sad tragic part is we might take out fifty percent of a population of innocents with it. But don't think for a second, the guerrilla warfare would last more than six months in America. We invented ultraviolence.
front_yard_duck_dad@reddit
If it lasted 6 months you would have full civil war. I've never met a Leo that didn't say " we are three missed meals away from chaos” are you going to deploy the military till like 30 something States heck no. It's the difference of jabs instead of going for the knockout.
Mouthshitter@reddit
Politicians they have never been afraid of going after power in Mexico
ilovetheskyyall@reddit
poor people. it’s always the poor people who get the short end of the war stick.
FatherOften@reddit
Sadly, that would not work in america.At all.
Sadly, any person with brown skin would be rallied up into camps quicker than shit. The racial tensions would go through the roof. It would be a sad day for our country.
Americans are capable of levels of unhinged hate and violence unlike any other population on this earth. This is why we are the only superpower. A lot of countries do evil, but when you look through history, we can take the fucking cake.
blueteamk087@reddit
There’s also like 1 million American citizens currently living in Mexico
Aloysiusakamud@reddit
That would matter, if the government cared about it's citizens.
Ecstaticlemon@reddit
They're counting on domestic violence as an excuse to expand their totalitarian state
PickingPies@reddit
Luckily it's very hard for people to get and conceal weapons in... ouch.
pressonacott@reddit
Exactly
Grouchy-Abrocoma5082@reddit
That's not true, it would not be close to as bad as nam. Many Mexicans hate and fear the cartels
lobotomizedmommy@reddit
just wait till the cartel uploads a video torturing american troops onto the internet, this will be a horrible war
PandaintheParks@reddit
They're in America. They also butcher without regard. If I were a troop I wouldn't want to get involved because they could hurt my fam to send a msg
Roboticpoultry@reddit
It will be worse than Vietnam. At least then we could at least pretend to have some form of legitimacy. He sends troops in we become another pariah state like Russia
Fancy_Exchange_9821@reddit
AC-130s and reaper drones go brrrrr on cartel compound
ddesideria89@reddit
how do you distinguish cartel compounds and Mexican villages?
Fancy_Exchange_9821@reddit
I’m sure the military has many ways of identifying this that I don’t know about
LynkedUp@reddit
I was in the military and can tell you, this would be akin to invading Afghanistan again, except this time Afghanistan has a land border with us.
"Ways of identifying this that I don't know about"
You admit here that you don't have a clue about what you're talking about. My job in the military was a bit related to this concept, and I won't say much, but I can certainly feel and express deep frustration at this comment.
It isn't 100% your fault, but it is incredibly ignorant.
We would lose in Mexico, you realize that yes? There would be so many civilian deaths, the people, of Mexico and of the world, would turn against us, the cartels are literal paramilitaries at this point, and the US is in disarray.
We. Would. Lose. Just like we lost in Afghanistan.
Murky_Conclusion_637@reddit
I like to think that half of us here would fight on Mexico's side. :)
Zarathustra_d@reddit
News flash, they don't care. At least the loyalists that remain after the purges don't.
Fancy_Exchange_9821@reddit
I’m not a trump supporter lol, but fuck the Mexican cartels
TTbeforePP@reddit
The same way Israel distinguishes between hamas compounds and hospitals
JustNeedAnswers78@reddit
Compounds are generally nicer than most villages down there. At least for the higher ups. Those people make obscene amounts of money.
Though it also depends on what group and in what region.
Cultural-Company282@reddit
"I don't know, man; I just fly the drone."
Zarathustra_d@reddit
If they run they are cartel, and should be shot
If they don't run, they are well disciplined cartel, and shout be shot
I think I've heard this one somewhere before... /S
BIGDongLover69420@reddit
You thinking they care is the best part.
Thunderclone_1@reddit
Simple: if it was shot at, it will be officially declared a cartel compound regardless of whether it actually was!
A tried and tested method from our buddy Israel.
GetInTheKitchen1@reddit
Literally a lobotomized russian take. You think you can just bomb people without them shooting back?
What makes you think the US will win against the cartels in a hot war when trump isolated america? The workers are gone. Hispanics will just stop working the fields and the US will come begging crying and shitting its pants while being starved to death.
Fancy_Exchange_9821@reddit
Now this….is one of the most interesting takes I’ve ever read on this site lol
Mouthshitter@reddit
What about the ones in American cities
Cultural-Company282@reddit
It's mostly cities in blue states like LA, and the Trump base has a hard on for waging war there already.
ParticularIndvdual@reddit
Those Americans were sicarios
NomadHomad@reddit
Most retarded take lol and from the same crowd that bitched about ending up in war in Europe LOL
UncleCarolsBuds@reddit
We trained the cartels in our military
wedividebyzero@reddit
We don't share a border with Vietnam. It will be so much worse. Also, it's only a matter of time before our pedo prez declares that all of Mexico is controlled by cartels.
Working_Falcon5384@reddit
agreed. people totally underestimate the firepower of the cartel. I fear the US could get rocked and potentially lose. they are a strong fighting force.
DuckGorilla@reddit
While the cartels currently disagree with one another, if the U.S. comes in they’ll unify
Alexis_Mcnugget@reddit
are you trolling
itsavibe-@reddit
You are blissfully unaware of the equipment/technology the U.S military has their hands on…
There is no competition. Just a lot of dead people.
Gwave72@reddit
Not to mention how many Mexicans live in the usa. There will be terror type attacks in country to respond.
No_Advice3660@reddit
And Mexico pretty much makes a lot of our food and manufacturing. So Vietnam without industry backing the war.
OppositeArt8562@reddit
Crashing the american economy is ine of the explicit plans and goals of project 2025.
Agitated-Ad6744@reddit
Part of me thinks Putin is pissed over our support for Ukraine
And wants Trump to thin us out a bit while returning the favor.
Mexico will probably get all the Russian and Iranian support it will ever need to make it hurt.
n0pe-nope@reddit
It’ll be worse. Expect shootings all over the USA.
Wet_Ass_Jumper@reddit
The drone stuff is gonna be ugly
HENMAN79@reddit
Fox News won't show anything wrong
creepythingseeker@reddit
Americans cant even mow their own yards without mexican help, now they expect to win a war against well armed, indigenous mountain dwelling people who know american customs and tactics. Americans are about to make the same mistakes as vietnam, Afghanistan and iraq all rolled into one conflict.
Eric_Durden@reddit
I didn't say whose blood...
Psychicgoat2@reddit
If you read the article, it says an invasion of Mexico. We are invading a sovereign country. This will not end well if it happens. This is insane.
privileged_cracka@reddit
The end of the article specifically says: >Not an invasion, not the “deployment” of U.S. special operators, not boots on the ground, but the kinds of strikes that the U.S. military has become expert at in the Middle East and South Asia.
vlntly_peaceful@reddit
So bombing weddings to kill one cartel leader? Sure, that's gonna work out great. /s
yesimin@reddit
The strike Obama authorized that killed 37?
vlntly_peaceful@reddit
That didn't just happen once my guy.
No-Connection7765@reddit
Might be how it starts but once the retaliations start....Our operations work so well in the ME because it's far removed from the homeland.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Ap intentionally creating terorrists. Great.
ArmedWithBars@reddit
Let's be real. What's the alternative at this point? Mexico has been fully corrupted by cartels. Cartels have become multi-billion dollar multi-national organizations that have started branching into legitimate business takeovers. They make a bulk of their income on flooding the US with crippling narcotics and smuggling illegals over the border. Mexico has zero intention of fixing the issue as any politician who tries to push back ends up in a pool of their own blood.
Should we let the cartels fester and grow in power for another 20+ yrs?
I don't think an invasion is the right choice, but highly targeted air asset strikes and sending in tier 1 units to cut the head off the snakes is 100% necessary at this point. We have Mexico 20 fucking years to fix the issue and all that's ended with is cartels being more established then ever before.
Anybody who says otherwise is literally delusional or is a drug addict/dealer that doesn't want their supply cut off.
MtnDrew_86@reddit
Didn't trump bring in a bunch of cartel heads and their families a couple of months ago? This has probably been planned for a while. They likely picked the cartels that are able to be bought or used as stooges and then take out all their competition, then send them back to work for the US/CIA.
Electronic_Sir7034@reddit
He wants his 10% interest.
Emotional_Database53@reddit
They’re all members of Sinaloa cartel family too right? I assumed this was part of some intelligence deal they struck with Feds to take down rivals, but it could just as likely be the $5 million dollar VIP gold cards that buy citizenship
NoConfusion9490@reddit
They aren't working for the CIA, they're incurring $1B worth of transaction fees with trump coin every year for protection money.
hectorbrydan@reddit
Maybe to muscle in the trade to use proceeds for black ops.
Altruistic-Order-661@reddit
More info?
MtnDrew_86@reddit
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna206917
I dont know if links are allowed but here's one. There's more if you Google it.
Opening_Proposal_165@reddit
Wait for the democracks to go out and protest in dc for the cartel
Beautiful-Point4011@reddit
I don't know what the USA has at the southern border at this exact moment but i do know over the last few months they apparently deployed thousands of military troops, 2 naval destroyer ships, and a fleet of Stryker armoured vehicles.
Flat-Percentage-9469@reddit
My coworker is in the Texas national guard, he got called up for deployment to eagles pass and has been down there for a year with an extension going through December
YeetedApple@reddit
I've got a buddy that used to be a carpenter in the army, and most of his old unit are at the border right now doing some sort of construction. He didnt know what exactly they are building, so could be anything from completely unrelated like work on sections of the wall, or more serious like fobs/checkpoints
Emotional_Database53@reddit
I know they’re currently building a number of massive detention facilities currently under construction and supposedly opening in number of weeks, so they’re cranking. Maybe it’s this
scenr0@reddit
The doomsday plane took off last night at our local airforce base and was making circles. I didn't even know it was in town. Surprised it showed up on flight radar.
Th3_Admiral_@reddit
I live near Offutt AFB where one of them is stationed and it's constantly flying circles for practice. Same with several other surveillance planes, including the sniffer that can detect nuclear detonations. People get all alarmed until they realize these are daily occurrences and just part of the pilots getting their flight hours in.
scenr0@reddit
Generally yes but I've been eyeing out airforce base and while most of the take offs are touch and go's and other practice runs, theirs a few that I can visually see take off and they don't have flight plans made.
mauxly@reddit
I live near an airforce base, an I usually know when there is going to be a. International strike because they leave from here. Last night was unusually loud.
BeeBarnes1@reddit
Tonight my neighbors and I watched at least ten fighter jets out of Grissom Air Reserve Base doing maneuvers right over our houses. They were low and loud and doing heat flares. Training is not anything new around here, we see military aircraft training all the time but this was very different. We've never seen anything like this. It does feel like something is ramping up.
Substantial_Lunch_88@reddit
Well well well
mauxly@reddit
I haven't checked the news or anything. Was there a strike? This isn't top secret info by the way, everytime they do it, nexdoor lights up with, "Oh shit, who are we bombing now?"
Every administration, not just this one.
Substantial_Lunch_88@reddit
Ah I see
AmsoniaAl@reddit
The surveillance planes from Offutt started flying training exercises near the border back in January, visible on ADSB
Th3_Admiral_@reddit
Interesting! I hadn't noticed that. I just remember it came up during the whole New Jersey drone thing when a ton of new people discovered FlightRadar24 and started freaking out every time an RC-135 or whatever was in the air.
AmsoniaAl@reddit
A lot of the time they're just doing training loops over BFE. Sometimes they circle Omaha. Sometimes they're off to do legit business. Every time I see one overhead I check ADSB to see where they've been
Th3_Admiral_@reddit
I follow the social media pages for the two Minuteman missile museums in the Dakotas. Last year sometime they posted the flight tracker data showing one of the aircraft doing circles over the active missile fields up there, and they speculated they were calibrating some new communications equipment between the aircraft and the missiles. That one was really cool to see!
AmsoniaAl@reddit
An E4B just departed heading south towards Kansas City. Are we about to invade Missouri?
Th3_Admiral_@reddit
It looks like they might be fighting back, there's a B-52 heading roughly this direction over Kansas City right now.
houseshoesntallboys@reddit
Wh...what is the doomsday plane? Sorry; sorta new and haven't joined this group, but it's all very fascinating and pertinent info, plus it's extremely reassuring to see that the venn diagram of preppers and fascist supporters is not a circle.
scenr0@reddit
Its a plane that carries the power to start a nuclear strike in the event that the whitehouse, pentagon, it main control is taken out. It's perpetually in the air at all time and can be for days.
spartennw@reddit
That plane has been in the air since the cold war. Nothing new
scenr0@reddit
Of course nothing new. Ive just never seen it in our neck of the woods. Pretty interesting.
FrogNuggits@reddit
Trump is jealous of the Interoceanic Corridor?
Corrupted_G_nome@reddit
And ships and 4k troops headed for v Venezuela.
President of peace and negotiations..../s
Visual_Jellyfish5591@reddit
We left Afghanistan for this????
Corrupted_G_nome@reddit
Nah, this is a side projectthey hope to accelerate and end before China makes its Taiwan bid.
Visual_Collar_8893@reddit
Seems more like they want an excuse to attack Mexico.
Financial_Week3882@reddit
Well recently the Department of State released the map of high risk areas in Mexico for US citizens. One of those areas being near the border. Have been there a couple of times & I've been really worried how far they will go.
Also the more I think about it we might have EO where Mexican-Americans will be rounded up to either pleadge loyalty to the US or Mexico. Just like what we did with past wars at the interment camps.
Fragrant_Lobster_917@reddit
Idk if their plan is that, I sure hope they're wise enough not to go full FDR.
TTbeforePP@reddit
They're literally building concentration camps all over the country and the deouty chief of staff hates Hispanic people as much as Hitler hated jews
SecretSquirrelSquads@reddit
To be fair, that map has been published for a while, not just this admin.
GamermanRPGKing@reddit
That's what convinced me he wants to attack, back in March or April. I'd put money on the attacks being against manufacturing towns near the border, calling them cartel staging grounds or hotbeds, and just claiming anything coming out of those factories are now American made.
PennyForPig@reddit
This is going to be used as a means of rounding up hundreds of thousands of people to use as slave labor and turn South and Central America into collaborating slave states.
Charming_Spinach_362@reddit
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/sheinbaum-denies-dea-agreement-anti-cartel-operation/?utm_source=mktg_email_paid
Mexico denies
Charming_Spinach_362@reddit
Charming_Spinach_362@reddit
Mexico Denies
The_Real_Lucifer-666@reddit
Why do they have to announce it ahead of time? Just do it and brag after.
staycurious72@reddit
So that Fox News can brag about our great leaders strength and leadership, while we’re being reamed by inflation and unemployment
The_Real_Lucifer-666@reddit
Well cartel is grateful for the forewarning. They will now make moves to minimize the damage to their valuable assets and prepare a response that will kill some U.S assets.
Careful-Buyer-9695@reddit
good.
latexpunk@reddit
Oh damn this sound dumb
ComprehensiveKiwi666@reddit
Nice.
Lozuno@reddit
I live at the border and cartels are struggling to send merch to the US, it's hilarious to think they'll retaliate inside US soil. Cartels are falling apart to the point that they have to steal their own people, from children that clean cars or sell street food to store owners, industries, business people and politicians. It's what they call "cobrar piso" society parasites along with the Mexican government that refuses to do something about it. If the government launches an operation targeting their bunkers they had it coming.
kidshitstuff@reddit
How is klipperstein always on the cutting edge of journalism? Am I wrong in that assessment?
concerned-koala@reddit
Drug war 2.0 — I wonder what the blowback and lingering consequences of this will be
texas130ab@reddit
You can't destroy these cartels. We tried to destroy the Taliban and could not do it. The only thing we would do is murder a lot of innocent Mexicans that have done nothing to us. This is insanity.
IlluminatiRobes@reddit
While you’re right we probably only stand a chance of causing harm and not “finishing the job,” there is a drastic difference between the Taliban and cartels, the main one being religion. Cartels aren’t built on their beliefs. It’s just organized crime families.
Welllllllrip187@reddit
They don’t need to destroy them, if they can call it wartime, they can pause elections, call for martial law, takeover cities etc. It’s a fucking ploy.
IncomingAxofKindness@reddit
He claims we are already at war with the cartels, which is the rationale for circumventing Congress on tariffs, tearing up trade agreements, and just generally half the illegal shit he's done.
Maybe John Roberts told him he better come up with an actual war before SCOTUS takes up the appeals.
Welllllllrip187@reddit
You think those jokers will do anything? Nope. they’ve been paid off.
Winter_Proposal_6647@reddit
The true definition of insanity, too. We will create a lot of hate for us because people will see their kids and family being murdered. This just makes me sad and angry.
sydsgotabike@reddit
Yeah, but their skin is pretty brown so..
/s
Mahooligan81@reddit
The Taliban is an ideology, cartels, at their core, are money making operations - slightly different despite operating quite similarly. I don’t foresee a different outcome than you predict, though. I do wonder if COIN operations would have a stronger effect long term, though - since they wouldn’t be fighting a deep ideology.
CATS_57_People_0@reddit
Won't that bring war?
Dear_Pen_7647@reddit
So let me get this right. There have supposedly been 0 illegal border crossings in 4 months, YET we still have such a high influx of fentanyl from Mexico that we need to authorize military action? Make that make sense MAGA.
Missabe77@reddit
I would be suspicious if something MAGA did or said actually made logical sense.
tb110965@reddit
I would not place a whole lotta trust in any Mexican government agency to prepare the US for a inside Mexico Cartel attack.
Thunderclone_1@reddit
Well shit. Here's the war that Trump says can let him cancel elections.
DonBoy30@reddit
Sort of a perfect war being a neighbor with the “enemy” already actively living among us within the United States. Unlike all the fear mongering that Al Qaeda was operating freely in the US, the cartels are lol
Kihran@reddit
Problem is that isn't Mexico and Canada partnered? It'll quickly become a war on two fronts.
anon_chieftain@reddit
Worked for Zelenskyy
Shrewta@reddit
Zelenskyy didn't start the war. He has led his nation with courage, and his nation decided to keep him for the duration. Around 6 million Ukrainians left the country, so they can't vote. 2.2 million are fighting and dying for their country, so they don't have time to vote. The only democratic thing to do is to wait until an actual election can be held. This is once the Russian freak stops stealing Ukranian children from their beds.
Donald Trump would like to orchestrate a slaughter as an excuse to keep his grubby little hands on as much power as he can. He is a narcissistic sociopath.
anon_chieftain@reddit
So why hasn’t Ukraine held an election since 2019?
And why did Z dissolve opposition parties?
https://www.npr.org/2022/07/08/1110577439/zelenskyy-has-consolidated-ukraines-tv-outlets-and-dissolved-rival-political-par
Shrewta@reddit
The ukranian presidents term length if 5 years. Russia invaded in 2022 for this phase of the war.
God damn you are in bad faith. This is easy fucking math.
anon_chieftain@reddit
"easy math" says there should have been an election in March 2024
Shrewta@reddit
Do you know how to read?
anon_chieftain@reddit
Last election was march 2019
2019 + 5 = 2024
Shrewta@reddit
See, in my previous comment, I gave you the reasons why the election has been delayed. You either chose not to read it or are lacking in reading skills.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
It's against the Ukranian Constitution. Z has held 2 referrendums to have them anyway and was overwhelmingly voted to stsy in power.
Also Russia invaded Ukraine.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
What? Theres nothing political about pointing out that Ukraine was invaded twice.
anon_chieftain@reddit
USA has been invaded by tens of millions of illegals so…
SomePolack@reddit
Russia invaded in 2014
Thunderclone_1@reddit
And the more recent invasion, too.
crusoe@reddit
Yes after mexico gang style killings in major cities.
They also have their people join the US military to get training. The insider threat is huge.
They also have moles in the Mexican govt.
Beelzeburb@reddit
Seems like the ice raids were more than just plain racism. It’s racism + we need a war with Mexico to cement power.
Preemptively arrest anyone with the same skin tone as cartel members and you can reduce the amount of American deaths but still give you enough death to justify feds in every city and a president who never has to be re elected
anon_chieftain@reddit
Is racist to deport illegals?
catspongedogpants@reddit
We keep giving rich people tax breaks instead of doing what needs to be done to support population growth e.g. throw money at new housing. So then the biggest source of pop growth, immigration, looks like it strains systems e.g. wage growth, inflation. So its not your grandpa's vanilla racism, its insidious manufactured racism that billionaires use to divert attention away from them.
anon_chieftain@reddit
illegal immigration
CandidateNew3518@reddit
Why don’t you try mounting a moral or ethical defense instead of appealing to authority? The executive has prosecutorial discretion, so the decision to deploy our limited resources to enforce certain laws is a policy one that should be well-reasoned. Look at the tik tok ban - the president clearly believes that he can choose not to enforce any law that he disfavors, so “we gotta enforce because the thing is illegal” doesn’t make any sense and is out of step with how this government actually operates.
anon_chieftain@reddit
In the case of illegal immigration we have countless videos of people like Obama and Hillary Clinton also saying illegals shouldn’t be allowed into the country
But for some reason, your side flipped about 9 years ago, seemingly overnight to supporting a policy of open borders
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
This is an intentional deflection. The extreme majority of people getting deported are legal immigrants under DAPA/DACA.
CandidateNew3518@reddit
So no, you’re not going to respond to my comment? You’re just going to come up with some straw man about how you think I support open borders and then attack that point? Sounds about right based on your comment history.
catspongedogpants@reddit
lmao "your side"
"rigor" and "nuance" isn't part of their lexicon i guess
anon_chieftain@reddit
It triggers you so much, you have to respond with some sanctimonious drivel like this?
catspongedogpants@reddit
i'll take that as a yes that you've broken laws yourself then lash out about other people breaking laws.
next time you go over the speed limit i want you to remember that you're not driving, you're driving illegally.
big man over here lol
anon_chieftain@reddit
False equivalence fallacy
catspongedogpants@reddit
what did i say that wasnt true?
anon_chieftain@reddit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence
A false equivalence or false equivalency is an informal fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed, faulty, or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.[1] Colloquially, a false equivalence is often called "comparing apples and oranges."
catspongedogpants@reddit
illegal driver alert
anon_chieftain@reddit
Whatever you have to do to keep the cognitive dissonance at bay
It’s your brains survival technique, I get it
catspongedogpants@reddit
ok speed racer. i reject your unsubstantiated claim that it's a false equivalence. it is not. done yet or do you want to try to strain a bit with some complete sentences again?
CandidateNew3518@reddit
You appear to be the triggered one, otherwise its very difficult to make sense of your incoherent straw man above. Or maybe that’s just the baseline level of stupidity that you operate under day to day?
anon_chieftain@reddit
Your cognitive dissonance won’t let you think logically
CandidateNew3518@reddit
I can’t possibly downvote this enough. You are incapable of having a discussion because you are so locked into your right wing fervor. Please log off and take a breath
anon_chieftain@reddit
All I originally suggested was that it isn’t racist to deport illegal immigrants
Why has it triggered you so much?
You are spinning… because of the cognitive dissonance. Because part of you knows I’m right, but it is opposed to all the other programming you have received in recent years
Good luck buddy
CandidateNew3518@reddit
“ You are spinning”
The petty and pathetic words of a manchild getting rhetorically dominated by strangers on the internet
catspongedogpants@reddit
are you going to use your words to clarify the message you want to convey or are you happy with being an idiot?
anon_chieftain@reddit
I was just correcting yours
catspongedogpants@reddit
sigh ok let me just take a guess at what you actually mean then. Illegal immigration doesnt contribute population growth?
anon_chieftain@reddit
It definitely does. But you should just call it by its name. Don’t try to legitimize it as legal immigration
catspongedogpants@reddit
Atta boy, complete sentences. Imagine being a millionaire and allowing yourself to get triggered by something as inconsequential to the point being made as adding an unnecessary adjective.
I'm sure you followed all laws your whole life, right?
JustNeedAnswers78@reddit
Well you’re right, something is being manufactured but it’s not racism. It’s actually part of a larger global trend in developed western countries and it has to do with a manufactured housing shortage.
Governments have been allowing big companies to buy up housing forcing people to be renters rather than owners. They have been prohibiting or restricting new construction homes while at the same time flooding their respective countries with insane amounts of refugees, asylum seekers, or illegal entries.
Add that to the larger homelessness that major cities are already combating and it all compounds into a serious problem. This is part of something much bigger.
Strange-Ad2470@reddit
we can’t have mail in voting during civil unrest! The democrats.
georgieboy74@reddit
If we hit the cartels, I fear their will be retribution in our cities. Arm yourselves and practice.
TradeTzar@reddit
About time. Full speed boys.
IGotThisYo@reddit
He’s taking a page out of Putin’s playbook. We’ll invade Mexico, and get bogged down. Then he’ll start drafting people to be sent to the front lines and into the meat grinder. Anyone he doesn’t like, the poor, minorities, and dems will all get drafted and sent to their deaths.
GuyJabroni@reddit
It also legitimizes Putin because “look! America does it too!”
absolutely_regarded@reddit
Interesting. We will see how this plays out.
Eye_foran_Eye@reddit
WTF!!
punktualPorcupine@reddit
“That will finally get people to stop talking about Epstein.” - Dump
StandardJackfruit378@reddit
Is this the war trump wants so badly so he can stay in office because you kniw war?
OLPopsAdelphia@reddit
So this is Trump’s war: Destroying South America?
Lost_Engineering_phd@reddit
I think more than nearly any other political issue this has the potential to cause the most significant problems in America. The Cartels will fight back, not just directly but also through indirect methods. We are getting ready to go into winter, much of our food during this time of year comes through Mexico. I suspect that the Cartels will actually do what the administration has threatened and shut down the border. The Cartels have the power to stop international commerce. This will be absolutely devastating to our struggling economy. The shortages when combined with all the other real and perceived issues will lead to civil unrest. I would also fully expect that the Cartels will disrupt manufacturing and distribution of products destined for the US within Mexico. Damage and destruction of manufacturing capacity will require significant resources and time to be restored. Fruits, vegetables and other perishable items will become very scarce. We will see empty shelves and food shortages almost immediately. I also fully expect that immigrant workers will stop working in the US. The Cartels will threaten their family members in Mexico and other Latin American countries. Our best case scenario is that we create a power vacuum amongst the Cartels. The remaining ones will fight amongst each other to gain that power. This would have the effect of significant increase of violence in Mexico. If only a few are attacked we may avoid the worst of this.
If you do not have 3 to 6 months of food yet, I would get it now, as in today not next week. Things will happen very fast once this powder keg is lit
No_Advice3660@reddit
Honestly, just legalize everything and it’ll be over in a year.
R2-DMode@reddit
That’s not working with marijuana here in Nevada.
No_Advice3660@reddit
It is working in every other state that has done it. MJ is this generation’s lotto ticket money for state funds.
R2-DMode@reddit
Yeah, pot money was supposed to go to education here in Nevada. It hasn’t.
No_Advice3660@reddit
Just like the lotto! Just moving faster past that mission
Lost_Engineering_phd@reddit
That is using logic, and sound economic principles. Those ideas are no longer welcome in the US. It's a simple question of supply and demand. If the demand dries up the supply will equally be reduced. Prohibition of alcohol while there was significant demand also resulted in extreme violence and crime during the 1930s. Additionally during that time there was quite a bit of adulterated product that was quite toxic and harmful. Alcohol is a highly regulated industry now and nobody could accuse Anheuser-Busch of being any worse of a corporate citizen than any other large corporation.
R2-DMode@reddit
It’ll be hard for cartels to do any of that if they’re blasted into oblivion.
ArmedWithBars@reddit
This bro. People are sleeping on the US military because we failed at rebuilding Afghanistan as a western puppet. Completely forgetting the fact in 2003 we projected power to a landlocked country halfway across the world and steamrolled their military in 3 weeks.
America can't rebuild a country to save itself but it can sure as fuck end a country at the drop of a hat.
Behind the scenes our covert ops and intelligence gathering is ridiculous. Stuxnet against Iranian nuclear facilities being a great example and that was the early 2000s. We have 20+ yrs of tech advancement and untold billions poured into black projects.
Civilian casualties would be a major issue, as it's been in every single conflict since the dawn of civilization, but the fighting the cartels would be like slaughtering fish in a barrel. They have zero air assets and air superiority is what wins wars. Cartel implements small drone attacks? Okay, intelligence gathering finds where it's being deployed from, then send air assets to delete every living organism within 500ft. Rinse and repeat.
This idea that the cartels are any threat to the US is comical.
Lost_Engineering_phd@reddit
I'm sure it will just be a 3 day special military operation and we will be in Kiev, I mean Mexico city... We do not have a very good history with this type of warfare, but maybe this time will be different from all the others.
I'm not particularly interested in getting any debate about the merits of starting a war in Mexico. Has a prepper or concerns should be how do we prepare for possible blowback. It is incredibly arrogant to believe that we will have no repercussions.
t0astter@reddit
The Mexican government will not take kindly to cartels disrupting their legal trade. Between the US government and the Mexican government, they will not let the cartels close their border to trade.
OppositeArt8562@reddit
Your mistake is assuming the Mexican government is not full of moles, cant be bought, families threatened etc. In some ways there are two Mexican governments: 1) legit 2) a branch of the cartels. I also doubt Mexican government would take kindly to the US deploying troops in their cities.
Lost_Engineering_phd@reddit
If the Cartels have proven anything, it is how ruthless they can be. Dispersed infrastructure is nearly impossible to protect. I am sure if faced with their annihilation the cartels will have no issue disrupting rail traffic, bridges, power and communication. I suspect they would start with soft targets. First they might send a very public message to Mexican truckers. Combined with this I suspect they would also send a message to the families still in Mexico of migrant workers in the United States. If US attacks continue they would escalate it to damaging manufacturing infrastructure in Mexico. American factories in Mexico would be prime targets. I do however believe that they would be reluctant to conduct any form of attack on American soil. But if they're pushed, I do believe they will attack the US strategically rather than looking for headlines. It is my belief they will target critical infrastructure. Our power grid is about to collapse under the load without any external attacks. There are between four and five critical transfer stations that if damaged could result in full cascade failure of the entire power grid. There are very few lighthouse power stations remaining that could be used to restart the grid.
Sean1916@reddit
This will be a lose lose situation for Americans. If we do nothing people will continue to die from the drugs they ship here. But People need to be aware that the cartels have a significant presence in the US. If the military starts to attack them in Mexico there is a real chance they will retaliate in America. Americans are not prepared for that
Sleepy_Emet6164@reddit
Those Epstein files really aren’t getting released eh
TwoTerabyte@reddit
Epstein was an enemy of the Sinoloa Cartel so moving against them is in line with his people's agenda. They want total control of child trafficking in the United States.
Upbeat_Respect_3621@reddit
The way I can’t tell if this is sarcasm…
Sad_Bolt@reddit
A judge just ruled against it yesterday so it’s even more unlikely now.
V2zUFvNbcTl5Ri@reddit
Those aren't the "files". That's a ploy so the gop can say they "tried to release the files" but its actually just the grand jury testimony which are literally never unsealed. The actual files we care about could be released today, they (the GOP) just don't do it because they're protecting the pedophile elite.
DuckGorilla@reddit
I think they recessed the vote till September. By that time we’ll be invading Mexico so people will care less about the files
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Those aren't the epstein files. That was jury records.
Nervous-Pay9254@reddit
If this raises drug prices I'm going to have to start caring about politics.
Ellemscott@reddit
This is where the false flag will happen.
WindSprenn@reddit
He just “joked” with Zelensky that he can suspend elections at times of war. Welcome to the Dictatorship.
haggi585@reddit
Cartels are heavily armed and entrenched. A foreign military invading Mexico will only embolden them.
smokymirrorcactus@reddit
This is a bad idea. A very bad idea. The cartels are geniuses of crime and extremely decentralized. This will be Vietnam all over again except they can literally take a speedboat to Texas and wreck shit this time
ReplacementThen409@reddit
Didn't drugs win the last drug war?
Coondiggety@reddit
We have become a Russia, idiots of the world.
--Mothman@reddit
Everyone from Mexico who wants to claim asylum in the US now has carte blanche to say they're escaping a terrorist regime in their home country.
This is why no previous administration declared the cartels a terrorist org. But what do I know?
No-Good-One-Shoe@reddit
Seems like ice doesn't care if you're claiming asylum.
stockmonkeyking@reddit
The whole claim asylum schtiik was bogus to begin with. I know someone that made it to US that way.
Here’s the playbook social justice warriors never understood and will never acknowledge:
Cartels smuggling people into the US had exact answers to exact questions for immigration officers to get into the country. $10K-$25K per person.
Bring to border that isn’t an official entry.
If get caught, bring to interrogation. Get food water and medical treatment.
Claim asylum. Do exactly what cartels have taught.
Get released and get an appointment 5-15 years later.
Don’t show up to court, settle in sanctuary city.
Have kids that become citizens automatically. Collect even more welfare.
Orgs like ACLU and cities themselves use tax payer funds to fight for them to stay, arguing something along the lines of “dreamer, refugee, been here forever, has kids”. I’m starting to believe these are also funded by cartels.
Eventually become a citizen through kids. Continue collecting welfare. Free medical treatments, SNAP, etc.
Americans are so stupid lmao
No-Good-One-Shoe@reddit
I have a friend whose a dreamer. He's hard working and contributes to the economy but can't get any benefits.
Also acting like natural born Americans getting welfare is a bad thing is all you need to say to make yourself look like a dick. America First also includes the children of immigrants.
And stats show that they pay more into taxes than they take out. Was that also part of the cartels conspiracy? To bring in more tax revenue?
Mouthshitter@reddit
Why? They will just say that all Mexicans are war fighters and decline they all maybe put all Mexican decent Americans in camps too
cross_x_bones21@reddit
If it’s true? Get ready for Cartel attacks in US history
Ok-Jump-2660@reddit
The cartels are not going to do that. They’re not ISIS. Why would they hurt their number 1 clients?
abandon_mint@reddit
You think they'll just roll over and take it?
Acceptable-Delay-559@reddit
trump and his minions are gangsters. They will broker a deal and "cartel retaliations" will be done by right wing domestic groups. This will lead to a police state in the US and most likely a dictator (trump).
Ok-Jump-2660@reddit
Unsurprisingly, yes. A lot of people misunderstand the cartels. They’re not insurgents or ideologues like ISIS, they’re businessmen with guns. Their goal isn’t to launch terror campaigns but to maximize profit and eliminate rivals. Attacking U.S. civilians or cities would kill their golden goose and invite overwhelming retaliation.
IrritableGoblin@reddit
And if the US is going full war with them, it becomes a war of survival, in which case indiscriminate attacks against the aggressors a logical step to take to demoralize the voting populace by showing that they can do a lot more damage as terrorists than as drug lords.
Fancy_Exchange_9821@reddit
I’ll have my nods ready
LaSignoraOmicidi@reddit
Dang I need some nods, how much you think a starter set would set me back? 3.5, 4k enough? Been setting some cash aside for them
Fancy_Exchange_9821@reddit
I’m actually selling mine for $4.3k to fund a more expensive set of binos. But yeah at least $3.5k to $4.5k for good gen 3 binos. If you want a mono you can get a pvs-14 with a modern green tube for $1.6k-$2.2k
LaSignoraOmicidi@reddit
Nice! This was my plan, get an entry level set and upgrade down the road. Are you going to move those through here, or is there a place you put them up for sale? Like some sort of consignment?
Fancy_Exchange_9821@reddit
It’s on my account posted to the r/gunaccessoriesforsale page
WormLivesMatter@reddit
What are you two talking about?
BreechF8@reddit
NODs are Night Optical/Observation Device. You may know them as NVGs, or Night Vision Goggles. White phosphor is referring to the element used in the "Tube" you look through and dictates the color scale everything is tinted. Green phosphor binoculars is what most media depicts but there are many more configurations.
irsh_@reddit
That's great, spook a bunch of gun-toting Americans.
ThrowAwayGarbage82@reddit
Then say any mexican-americans are enemy combatants. Watch maga do their bidding for them and go around killing brown people with the full blessing and protection of the government.
Their goals are stupidly, painfully obvious.
RVA_RVA@reddit
Declare war in the cartels. Suddenly every brown person is a potential enemy combatant. Off to the new camps you go...
Welllllllrip187@reddit
And you can declare martial law, pause elections, use wartime laws, list goes on and on.
Unfair_Bunch519@reddit
You are looking at it the wrong way, declare war on the cartels and every white person becomes a combatant who can be targeted. It won’t be safe to walk the streets or sleep in your own bed
throwaway9gk0k4k569@reddit
First they will go after American businesses in Mexico. Warehouses. Amazon warehouses. Walmarts. Automotive factories.
There are a lot of juicy targets already in Mexico. They don't have to go anywhere, but they could definitely strike outside of Mexico too, if they wanted to.
MrLanesLament@reddit
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I genuinely don’t know if the military realize what they’re getting into.
The cartels are a bigger force than most countries’ armies. They have no rules and no end to their cruelty.
The US military will need to go to some dark places if they want to have a chance of winning this.
Cristobal_ELBC@reddit
Cartels would not hesitate to go after family members of anyone involved.
ledezma1996@reddit
They are not being naive. They fully understand that these actions will result in retaliatory acts from the cartels themselves. One thing that might not be known is how many arms they actually have. Neighborhoods will be terrorized and all so that the no one asks about the Epstein list.
SouthernStatement832@reddit
The 80s are coming full circle.
BarnabasThruster@reddit
If these chuckle-fucks actually wanted to end the cartels, the way to do it instantaneously is to legalize and regulate the drug market.
Pando5280@reddit
This is potentially bigger than most people would think. The cartels run the gangs. All they have to do is take the leash off and you have de facto sleeper cells in every major city in the US. Plus disrupting the supply chain of illegal drugs would cause a massive drop in profits for the gangs which would result in way more street and property crime (robbery, theft and burglaries) to make up for lost profits plus all those addicts who would need even more money for higher priced dope thus fueling lower level crime. And you'd see gang on gang violence as they fight over dwindling supply and territory. Another possible downside is the cartels flooding the streets with bad dope thus overwhelming the hospital system. And that's not counting what happens when the cartels shoot back if we send in ground troops. All with a country on our southern border that trades a ton of goods and provides a ton of low cost labor and also has a ton of manufacturing just across the border.
Unobtanium_Alloy@reddit
Causing bloodshed and chaos in every major city (mostly blue) in the country is a feature, not a bug.
aglaophonos@reddit
It’s mostly red states that border Mexico
fruderduck@reddit
Why blue instead of red? They’d be working against themselves.
OppositeArt8562@reddit
It gives the Trump administration carte blanch to invade american cities and declare martial law as a trial run. Most cities are blue cities and a lot of drug cartels operate in cities because thats where large customer bases are.
Traditional-Purpose2@reddit
Because their plan won't work if we knew the truth like this.
DuckGorilla@reddit
Bye bye avocados lol
Pando5280@reddit
We're gonna see guacamole speakeasy's like 1920s Chicago.
OppositeArt8562@reddit
I have never thought about them purposely flooding the US with bad dope to overwhelm the hospitals but thats genius in a wicked evil way. And yes you thought there was inflation now, just wait until you cant buy any goods made in Mexico.
heeebusheeeebus@reddit
This fucking administration's nuremburg trials can't come soon enough
Next-Introduction-25@reddit
Preparing attacks on “cartels” just like they’re only throwing “dangerous criminals” in camps.
Far_Out_6and_2@reddit
Cartels have a lot of fire power as well
ArmedWithBars@reddit
They have zero air assets and a miniscule fraction of the intelligence gathering that the US has. Air superiority, intelligence, and logistics wins wars. The US has no logistical issues to worry about as they'd be deploying from US soil. A real conflict against the cartels would be a one sided slaughter.
The idea that the cartel with Toyota technicals and some armored vehicles would pose an issue to the US military is a fucking joke.
The only issue the US would have to contend with is minimizing civilian casualties.
burgercleaner@reddit
yeah they love Ohio Ordinance
Affectionate_Pin673@reddit
Yes mostly from USA
laca777@reddit
And nearly 80% is traceable to the US, specially Arizona and Texas.
02meepmeep@reddit
I wonder if this is related to the naval presence near Venezuela
Emmy_Em_Maree@reddit
This will all work out just fine. The USA has ~~never had~~ long-standing problems related to the places it invades.
WesternAd8208@reddit
So dump is starting another pointless war. What a shame. It is irrefutable at this point that he is deliberately sabotaging the USA and it’s people.
Ok-Conclusion5543@reddit
The more he pokes the Mexican mafia, the more his administration alleges associations to immigrants, the more money his cronies in the prison industrial complex make from government contracts to hold immigrants in detention camps. This is all about making money from the American taxpayer and stealing money and public benefits from the immigrant, lower and middle classes who pay the brunt of taxes
DuckGorilla@reddit
Shit planning to stay in Mexico for a while to learn Spanish in November
Logical___Conclusion@reddit
For the average American, this attack on a foreign country and one of our main trading partners will mean one major factor.
MUCH higher food prices.
As Trump's policies to punish US farmers through tariffs and mass raids by our ICE Gestapo, more and more food has had to be imported. Primarily from Mexico.
Attacking our neighbor for the distraction theatrics to distract from the President's mass rape ring of children that he secured underage girls for, and helped create, will again do nothing positive for Americans.
iFuckingLoveBoston@reddit
Mexico will shut the border down. More inflation for all!
Izmetg68@reddit
What does this have to do with the Epstein files?
LosRoboris@reddit
What a joke. This would be worse than Afghanistan.
theFireNewt3030@reddit
stupid fuks.
Freenokia@reddit
I wonder if this has something to do with all the drones in the NE last December. Perhaps, the cartels helped smuggle in something hotter than dope.
trebordet@reddit
I wonder if it'll be an invasion by sea, with them crossing the Gulf of MEXICO.
QanAhole@reddit
Translation: Trump found his excuse to invade our neighbor
ButterscotchIll1523@reddit
I’m glad my son is discharged on September 18th.
Mahooligan81@reddit
You should make sure he isn’t being discharged into the inactive reserves, where he could be called upon for a number of years after getting discharged - if he has done 4 active, it would be 4 inactive reserve, if he has done 6, 2 inactive….if he has served 8 years then he should be good.
ButterscotchIll1523@reddit
He’s being discharged for medical reasons. They destroyed his back.
Difficult_Prize_5430@reddit
Are we just going to bomb all the nice houses in the villages or send boots to fight them on the street??
Last_Inquisitor@reddit
No offense but the US has bombed half the world for futile reasons and little to no repercussions - and now that they would finally strike at real ruthless monsters we are cowering in fear?
Also what kind of argument is that the cartels have already infiltrated the US too deep? If really there’s such a dangerous fifth column it should have been tackled yesterday. Turns out maybe the deportations were needed then?
happyvibesonly69@reddit
Remember kids: The illegal drug trade is one of the biggest import/exports in the world, and the Us and the CIA has been on top of this conspiracy for yhe last 100 years.
Never forget Indochina, Afghanisthan, Laos, Columbia, Honduras, Cuba, Philipines, and so on.
Milliona of innicent people slaughtered like dogs by juntas funded and trained by the US and the UK especially. Thousand yesr old cultures and civilizations erased by carpet bombings and assasinations.
Never forget that the US is the biggest terrorist state in the world.
Never forget.
Ok-Vegetable-8170@reddit
Hope folks in the border states are ready for the cartel violence in revenge.
Legend_of_Moblin@reddit
Maybe the cartels solve the trump problem for everyone. They've got reach.
OppositeArt8562@reddit
Honestly that would play right into vances hands which is why it might be realistic.
BigNapplez@reddit
Please stop. I can only get so hard.
DonBoy30@reddit
lol I hope every American who lives anywhere that has had a fentanyl presence are ready for cartel violence.
snufkin_88@reddit
Def not a boarder issue. They’re in my hometown in the SF Bay Area (Norteño gang etc.)
SecretSquirrelSquads@reddit
This is not a border issue, the cartels are in the USA already.
GoriIIaGIue@reddit
Heck, they're even up in Canada.
ImpressivePainting64@reddit
r/sleuthbot
Ok-Vegetable-8170@reddit
Lmao why don’t you sleuthbot yourself.
AliceCode@reddit
Border states? Won't just be border states.
german-fat-toni@reddit
lol, seeing how well the US did in the past with Guerilla warfare, I already congratulate the Cartel for winning this upcoming war.
charmingcharles2896@reddit
Nah, unlike Afghanistan, we can stage here at home, so this war would be cheaper and infinitely easier to fight.
lullckkillers@reddit
Found the CoD guy!
Pezington12@reddit
Unlike Afghanistan we’d have no allies at all in this conflict and are right next door enabling any enemies we make to strike right back at the homeland.
german-fat-toni@reddit
Exactly, which will also affect moral drastically
Ok_SysAdmin@reddit
This shit is Vietnam. There is no way to win.
ddesideria89@reddit
who thinks this is pretext to occupy Mexico?
SecretSquirrelSquads@reddit
If this is true, I think is a pretext to create a long term no win conflict that will destabilize the USA and create enough chaos to continue the implementation of worse and worse autocratic policies in the USA.
socialmedia-username@reddit
That seems to be the goal for sure. Move fast, break things, rebuild with their vision. 150+ years down the tubes in a couple of years. Sad.
Mouthshitter@reddit
He needs a forever war as an excuse to stay in power
Familiar-Ad-5058@reddit
All the comments in here sound like they’re coming from 12 year olds. No, the cartels aren’t going to be able to take on the US.
The cartels spread propaganda. They are afraid of the US. They want to look strong, but try to stay away from meddling with the US because they don’t want to get smoked.
“But but they have tactical gear!” Does anyone remember that redditor’s analysis on that image of a cartel member in full tactical gear? It was like paintball equipment from Amazon and Ali baba.
DonBoy30@reddit
I guess Trump is taking the War On Drugs a little more literal.
Ear_Enthusiast@reddit
I know you MAGA nuts love it when the US bombs brown people. This isn't going to be like bombing a Taliban bunker in Afghanistan. This is going to bring the fight to our doorstep. The Cartels will retaliate and it'll be on American soil. Trump is setting the stage for another 9-11 like attack.
lochnesssloth@reddit
they will kill our leaders with fentanyl laced drugs in the first week. they’re all addicts. easy killinz
lochnesssloth@reddit
¿dónde está papá? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI-assisted_targeting_in_the_Gaza_Strip
canofspam2020@reddit
Shit isn’t going to happen.
While Sheinbaum wants to keep DJT happy, she won’t allow any foreign operations at the expense of Mexican sovereignty.
DJT is going to keep threatening it, and Sheinbaum is going to keep DJT happy by allowing already imprisoned cartel leaders in Mexico to be extradited, who will then be paraded by the DOJ and lauded as a victory for his administration.
Maybe we will see a coast guard or navy deployment against the gulf as a “show”, but that’s all it will be - showing fangs.
ScrauveyGulch@reddit
Just remember, your fellow Americans support all of this bullshit.
crlynstll@reddit
Could possible attacks on Mexico cartels explain all the National Guard troops going to DC? I assumed the troops were all about control and fear. What if Trump is worried about revenge cartel attacks in DC?
TheDwellingHeart@reddit
That's great. Trump is a pedophile criminal and ordering the deaths of others. Republicans are scum.
AdLatter3755@reddit
When us military personnel and their families start disappearing and being tortured by the cartels it’s gonna be interesting.
When the Mexican military tried to arrest el chapo’s son they basically went to war and innocent people were massacred. Bodies hung off highways.
I don’t think the Mexican people or government are gonna care if that strategy is applied to Americans. They might even help.
OutlandishnessOk7997@reddit
‘Cartels’ = innocent bystanders
37iteW00t@reddit
Imagine if they used all the ICE money to build housing for all of the homeless
Onslaughtered1@reddit
He is gonna start a fucking war to be able to suspend fucking elections.
Edstv1@reddit
They should have had ice deport and detain actual cartel members on our side of the border.. really woulda made that next part easier. Feels like we’ll get splintered groups/a propagation in the US if we target the base
sjb2971@reddit
If true, the CIA is going to be pissed...
Pando5280@reddit
Nah. The alphabet set will just get more funding to help deal with the outcome of the latest solution to the problem which in turn created a bigger problem. Its just job security and weapons contracts at this point.
GeorgeRRZimmerman@reddit
What, the DHS? Because they're the ones soaking up all the defense and research funding. We're trading international soft power and our own land defenses for a fucking gestapo.
No_Advice3660@reddit
They’ll probably just launch another crack epidemic to get cash that’s off the books
SectorFriends@reddit
Die in Mexico you dumb fucking trump voters.
ClassyUpTheAssy@reddit
LMFAO 🤣
theamiabledumps@reddit
Imagine waging war within a sovereign country fighting cartels you propped up.
Pitiful-MobileGamer@reddit
They want to do this not because they have to, but because they can. Big question is what is Mexico's response? I think they're going to slam the door on tourism, yes that hurts them; but less so than a cartel response on Americans in a tourism sector.
_UpForAnything_@reddit
“Mexican Cartel”
FunkyPlunkett@reddit
So Vietnam, but here at home. Great
apefromearth@reddit
They’ll probably destroy a few villages full of poor farmers, kill a bunch of innocent people and say they won the war on drugs
unsurewhatiteration@reddit
Oh, so Mexico is going to be our Poland. Neat.
Historical-Aide-2328@reddit
Wonder if this s why they’re trying to deport as many Hispanics as possible.
croissantcat79@reddit
The writing was on the wall for this as soon as Trump noted that Zalinski used war as a way to cancel elections. Get ready for war at least through what is scheduled to be the midterms
MomsAreola@reddit
Gulf of America sounds more correct every day. Just one extended military exercise away from not needing a border wall.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
If anything we'll need one closer to what Isrsel has vs W's limp dick fence. This will intentionally create more terrorists.
Glad-Restaurant4976@reddit
Looks like Taylor Sheridan got some inside Intel.
ExeuntLeft22@reddit
Is this the precursor to suspending elections? If Mexico says that Americas invasion is an act of war?
NoOne4113@reddit
What if it’s a war with left and cartels vs maga and some military. That would be a weird turn of events.
Muadglib@reddit
The US is gonna turn Mexico into Gaza.
nic_haflinger@reddit
Navy Seals are good at drug trafficking so they should know what to expect.
Upstairs-Parsley3151@reddit
Not so secret
JizzCumLover69@reddit
This_Loss_1922@reddit
Venezuelans: PLEASE, PLEASE daddy Trump bomb my country, PLEASE I BEG YOU!!!!
jar1967@reddit
I would expect the Cartels to retaliate by targeting republican politicians and donors with violence or blackmail.As well as placing do not sell to orders
LaSignoraOmicidi@reddit
I feel like I saw this in a show, was it lioness? They kidnapped a republican from Texas and eventually the CIA ended up making a deal to install a new leader for the cartel and all was good again. SMH.
Mouthshitter@reddit
It will be terrible
Grifasaurus@reddit
This is how ghost recon advanced warfighter 2 started.
Mouthshitter@reddit
The insurgency could be catastrophic... on all border states
94723@reddit
Military strikes may not be unilateral stop doomposting
Rivetss1972@reddit
We will lose.
Not just cuz the DEA is already in close alliance with them & will sell us out, but also because wall street & tech bro-illonairs need their coke.
Oh, and we have no ammo left, giving it all away.
No-Fail7484@reddit
What a fool. He is also looking at Venezuela.
Affectionate_Pin673@reddit
Hell about time we fucking kill people who have actually harmed USA
Psychicgoat2@reddit
The current Mexico president is intelligent. She will calm Trump down and if she doesn't....she will make sure he regrets ever putting boots on her soil.
vinnybawbaw@reddit
That can’t go well. A forever war with Mexico, really ?
TotalRecallsABitch@reddit
Don't forget Trump let El Chapos family into the US this year.