Wondering if this is a developing trend. As AI and its infrastructure grows unabated, more conflict with (rural) property owners across the country?
Posted by keen_observer34130@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 26 comments
JustNeedAnswers78@reddit
“You’ll own nothing and be happy”
throwAwayWd73@reddit
Prospective as a transmission systems operator:
Not surprised, Everyone wants an updated electrical grid but lots of NIMBY and also nobody wants to pay for it, even before so these data centers started coming on line.
People even try to block access from doing maintenance on existing lines with a proper utility easement that has been in place for over a hundred years in some cases.
However, It really bothers me that the grid needs work and expansion but the corporations who own the data centers that are the root cause of our capacity problems and increasing energy prices will be subsided by federal/state/local governments with the costs passed onto the regular ratepayers who get no real benefits, All so the shareholders can get some extra money.
ForthrightGhost@reddit
It sounds like you’re saying that they rather suffer or possibly die than to pay for improvements. Further proof of my own theory that these fucks are all self-destructive and want to take everyone out with them.
Playful_Possible_379@reddit
You do realize data centers store your derivative work of yours thumbs. Aka this reddit post. And you don't get an electric bill,water bill or rent bill... Lol
Get off your high horse.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
This post is completely unintelligible.
AntiSonOfBitchamajig@reddit
A private utility going through others land, for private business / data-center purposes (not public).
I can see why they're upset, sounds like the judge was bought.
Key_Pace_2496@reddit
I mean in this day and age you're able to "shop around" for judges who would be more inclined to rule in your favor on things at the federal level so a local judges opinion won't really matter anyway.
Girafferage@reddit
100%. The corruption in our country is ballooning at an alarming rate.
if it was my land I would make sure they have to relay the cables every single year.
DistillateMedia@reddit
It's beyond any conventional fixes at this point.
r/bigparty
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Nope, PSEG is the utility. They have a contract to maintain the infrastructure and that includes surveys for upgrades.
AmericanaCrux@reddit
I’ve done a lot of research on the CHPE electric corridor from Canada to NYC. It runs through some extremely rural areas in upstate NY, some of that area of which I am quite familiar. I’m convinced it has had significant negative environmental impacts already, specifically with water quality and availability/access - and in my opinion was the cause of a water crisis in a small town up that way. Every thread I pulled while doing my own research found some extremely problematic information.
Where I live now, also rural NE, also has a small nearby town facing a water crisis.
Rural property owners are absolutely going to become a problem because their lives and property are being threatened by growing energy demands for AI and data centers, dwindling fresh water resources, and loosening regulations at the worst possible time. Hopefully more start waking up to it before it is too late.
Wise-Force-1119@reddit
What's worse is that they're building huge centers in the desert where there already wasn't water to begin with. -_____-
AmericanaCrux@reddit
Less evaporative loss in drier climates. More efficient. Pretty much worse possible outcome because it becomes economically viable to transport water for data centers, further dissociating from local resource constraints.
Not good at all.
Wise-Force-1119@reddit
I'm no engineer but I would think that putting something hot in a hot place would require even more energy, as well? Anyway, I'm just pissed at Nevada for selling off our public lands to private corporations.
LilGrunties@reddit
They steal water from The People, then use it for evaporative cooling in data centers, because it is more "economical" than air conditioning a data center, which is crazy complex due to the localized heat servers produce.
And for what, so some dumbfuck can make an AI image of some random bullshit or some AI porn to jerk off to? Its fucking pathetic. We need legal limits on what AI can be used for ASAP to prevent these stupid companies from further stealing quality of life (and even life itself) from future generations.
DefiladeSlut13@reddit
Rural IA here, we’re all fucked dude
squidwardTalks@reddit
Rural Wisconsin, also can confirm. They're trying to put a backup center in the field behind my property.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Vote em out.
AmericanaCrux@reddit
I read your other comments and I’m 100% with you on all of them.
A lot of people I talk to seem to be coming around to what is actually going on and how urgent the threat is, but they never claim to vote any differently or express any desire to vote differently. It is truly outrageous.
When politics becomes religious fundamentalism it isn’t the individual acts of aggression that is worrisome but the platform wide disconnect from reality that is the issue.
FuzzzyRam@reddit
If people stopped saying stupid shit that doesn't make sense, I might pay some attention to this issue. The whole "every time you ask ChatGTP a question, 7 plastic bottles of water disappear from the Earth" thing made me roll my eyes and close the tab. Talk about energy usage, land rights, pollution, just please stop talking about water being 'removed' from the Pacific Northwest and causing draughts in the Arizona desert that people were idiots to build in anyway...
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Wat? AZ cities are fed primarily by the Colorado River. Why do you think the watersheds are states away?
FuzzzyRam@reddit
That's exactly what I'm saying - as soon as I read the widespread criticism that Washington datacenters are draining water and causing droughts in Arizona, I discounted this whole thing quite a bit. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/09/18/energy-ai-use-electricity-water-data-centers/
https://oecd.ai/en/wonk/how-much-water-does-ai-consume
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
The article never mentions either stste... It's about PSEG in Maryland, specificallynthe Chesepeak Bay Authority...
FuzzzyRam@reddit
I believe we're 2 ships passing in the night, I hope you make it to your destination.
QHCprints@reddit
What a weird way to admit you were wrong.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Briefly did a foot-in-the-door gig checking rural water meters and inspections/investigations into illegal wells. They would fill the meter box with shit covered broken glass and threaten to shoot you for so much as asking permission to check/test it.