[Shotgun] Blue Line Solutions BL-18 Norinco made 870 clone 12 gauge - $133.21 before S/H and tax
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These things used to be imported as the Hawk 982 and the Pardner Pump. This is a Remington 870 clone as made by Norinco (specifically Hawk Industries) and has multiple excellent features for the cost. All forged and machined components, no MIM. I would put them on par quality wise with older police magnums or wingmasters, and for the money better than the Reddit darling Maverick 88.
InternalConfident433@reddit
They were 109 in December last year I bought a used heritage rough rider that broke after 10 shots FML I ended up getting a MB3-R 4+1 870 clone believing it was the blue line solutions which I wanted but it had a red dot with duo sight it's weird the company said they don't have longer barrels I saw on there website a barrel for that had a modified choke crazy must have been something wrong coat me 200 plus 25 and ammo and I have had it for over a month and have shot it hell I think I have had it unused cause I decked it out and wanna possibly trade someone at a gun show hell I I wanna shoot it so bad I looked for low recoil subsonic shells I can shoot a 22lr in my yard up to three times and they never call I've shot a shotgun in the air cause I heard gun shots had kids in the house with my ex pregnant saying someone has a gun and a duffle bag in the yard I came out loaded with a nice duck gun my ex sold along with my soul life and tools fucking cunt disappeared joined the carnies haven't gotten a dime sense now moms got brain cancer I made money with crypto but I have not messed with it in forever but fuck gotta have atleast a grand to start anything worth a damn God bless all y'all when the shit hits the fan be ready
Thansungst22@reddit
Damn bro they're even cheaper than when I got them a year ago at $145 😂
These are basically identical to the 870.
Came soak in cosmoline. Actions are surprisingly smooth and also can be upgrade with the $50 extension to give it +1 shell
I honestly think they're better than the Newer 870 Remington after bankruptcy
Got around 500 rounds thru it already so I got my money worth.
James Reeves Should honestly do a burn down on this thing cuz I think it better than the mav 88
Unless I got a unicorn 😂
shadowfire3698@reddit
Where did you get the +1 extension
Thansungst22@reddit
Choate
Just search Rem 870 +1 3 1/2 extension
Gonna cost ya around $72 something so basically half the price of the gun for a +1 capacity
Still come out cheap AF though but obviously don't wanna sink too much money into parts for a throw away beater gun now 😂
katanamast279@reddit
Looking to do this as well. Is the +1 extension flush with the barrell? Curious if the +2 would stick out or not
Thansungst22@reddit
+1 flush
+2 would stick out since the current +1 basically flushed to the barrel already after installation for the BL-18 that I have
Logen_6Ninefingers@reddit
Other than drilling the 3/16" holes, were there any difficulties in installing the Choate +1? I ordered myself one.
Thansungst22@reddit
Didn't even need to drill it. Depending on which batch you got it may just a direct drop in
I'd put some red vibratite on it though
But minimal work require
May need to file the nubs to get follower to go smoothly but that all
Logen_6Ninefingers@reddit
Thanks!
Pzb39@reddit
Hey I've got one with a Mesa Tactical Stock, Lighted Forearm, +1 extension. If anyone wants to see, it's in my post history.
TresCeroOdio@reddit
Linking it here to save yall some scrolling
pattywhaxk@reddit
Got mine around Christmas last year for the same price. Just to note: I wanted to put the magpul furniture on it. Stock was no problem, but the foregrip was super tight. I got it about half way on before I realized and I had to knock it back off with a hammer and wood block. Got my calipers and compared it to my buddies 870 and the BL is about .05” thicker in overall diameter on the foregrip tube. I’m eventually going to sand down the inside of the foregrip, but I haven’t got around to it yet.
DrewOH816@reddit
Did I think I was going to be buying a pump shotgun today; nope. Did I, for $156 shipped of course I did!
No_Pepper4105@reddit
same thing i said yesterday.
dRedPirateRoberts9@reddit
Fuck it in for 1. I was looking for a 18.5 barrel for my 28" Mav 88. This will do.
BlondLebanon@reddit
How do you like it so far ?
dRedPirateRoberts9@reddit
Love it. No issues, shoots well, feels solid. Well worth the price.
Background-Pop-9702@reddit
Shotgun still preforming well ? Thinking of trying one out
Jankyfrank21@reddit
dahlonegaarmory.com is selling these for $119 plus shipping right now for anyone who wants to buy one still
iannewcastle@reddit
$108 now🙃
Jankyfrank21@reddit
That's crazy, I expected the price to only go up
iannewcastle@reddit
Same now will they break 100!??
Savings-Device-3434@reddit
Yeah my total came out to $150 and that's still without the FFL fee. Pretty damn good deal though still.
jtj5002@reddit
Chinese 870s are back?
Vivid-Fisherman9783@reddit
$120 rn 190 left
Thansungst22@reddit
I agree bro. I just nabbed another one just cuz they're even cheaper than when I got them a year ago. This is literally the best bang for your buck pump shotty. Just buy a couple and leave one in each room and cars at this point 😂
jtj5002@reddit
And it doesn't come pre-rusted like current production Remington lmao. They somehow will get surface rust every 6 months even if you soak it in CLP.
Thansungst22@reddit
They soaked these in a shit ton of cosmoline that for sure. Mine came dripping with it soaked thru the box
I wiped it down with rags then spray some brake cleaner and that shit still got some left over even after 500 rounds 😂
BoSknight@reddit
These are genuinely better than a maverick? What about parts availability and servicing? Genuine question, I've never shot a maverick or 500, much less these niche guns
Thansungst22@reddit
These aren't niche bro it basically a 870 clones that are better than the real 870
No mim parts everything is interchangeable with rem 870 parts
It literally just so cheap because china labors and it mass produce for the military and are essentially surplus
They're just calling it a different name to get around Norinco bans
Count_Warheit@reddit
So he did a burn down on a similar gun?
Thansungst22@reddit
The most similar he did was the mav88 and these are better than the Mav88 imo since they have zero mim parts all steel cast
PackofWildhobos@reddit
Better than Maverick 88s? Really?
Embarrassed-Lie2272@reddit (OP)
Yup. Having handled one it is identical to my Hawk 982 other than the bead sight vice ghost ring
Standard_Report_4768@reddit
Is the saftey the same? Looking to change it to left hand
jgacks@reddit
Wait norinco is importing again?
ArizonaGunCollector@reddit
Only through shell companies and things that easily adhere to importation rules like shotguns. They used to import their saiga 12 clone called the Lynx 12 through sds imports but I guess the laws must have changed on semi auto shotgun importation cause theyre not coming in anymore.
Count_Warheit@reddit
Damn I remember the lynx 12 but I don’t recall if it was decent or not.
ArizonaGunCollector@reddit
Ive never handled one but from what ive read they are highly regarded
This-Rutabaga6382@reddit
(Not to necro) but I have one , and it’s well made and reliable I shoot target and birdshot through it on the default gas setting and it runs great honestly well worth the money for the drip
Takemepoqhs@reddit
I got one and shot the piss out of it. Run it for about 750 rounds before buying another (before they dried up). I feel like they were a steal, but sample size of one (haven’t shot the other, I really wanna sbs one, but tabled both guns when I couldn’t find anyone to do the work)
Kaizenbitch@reddit
I’ve got around 1000 through mine and I’ve had no FTEs since the first 100 rounds. At this point I’d fully trust it, it so much fun to dump a 20rd drum of 12ga 00… I’ve literally cut down trees
PinBucket@reddit
Mine worked if I set the gas high enough, but if I set the gas to be comfortable, it was not reliable.
It was a fun toy, but conventional autoloaders are better.
It's also a rock and lock magazine that compresses the top shell if you load a full 10 rounder with the bolt forward.
7ddlysuns@reddit
Buddy has one. Never missed a beat. Shockingly decent for trap!
FinalArrival@reddit
I had one, it was shit. Worked poorly, even sent back and still didn't cycle with multiple mags and ammo.
jgacks@reddit
Thank you - I was about to start scouring the web for $350 (probably more like 1k now) m1a clones in 7.62x39
Sulla-proconsul@reddit
That was a thing?? Damn it.
jgacks@reddit
yea - forgotten weapons even did a video on it. here
ChevTecGroup@reddit
China imports are limited to sporting shotguns
7ddlysuns@reddit
The Lynx was a sweetheart gun.
TheFireOfPrometheus@reddit
I got mine, looks good, now I want to see what people have done with furniture and upgrades
ArizonaGunCollector@reddit
I got mine too, the finish looks good but is terribly delicate, I swear sometimes just my fingers dragging across it leaves permanent marks on it. Mechanically though it has been great so far so I cant complain for $170 all in, its also just cool to have something modern made in the norinco factory cause new chinese guns are a bit of a rarity.
Embarrassed-Lie2272@reddit (OP)
You can find old police trade in Surefire lights for cheap, that’s what I’m doing
TheFireOfPrometheus@reddit
How many lumens can they put out now?
Embarrassed-Lie2272@reddit (OP)
With the upgraded heads I think 1000
44ALA@reddit
Anybody get tracking on these yet?
MildlyGuilty@reddit
Shit out of stock.
Sph3al@reddit
Will these rust like an 870 too?
Powerlifter1@reddit
Goddammit, out of stock
Lost-Bell-5663@reddit
The night before last, there were 88 on hand. Yesterday when I looked the number was in the high 20s, so I had to pull the trigger lol.
rubbercat@reddit
Aw fuck, missed out. :(
TheFireOfPrometheus@reddit
They must have done a partial restock because an hour and a half ago. They showed four in stock but now they’re back to zero.
sickels61@reddit
While these aren't going to have the same notoriety as Chinese AKS, day people are going to be on the internet talking about how great these are and wondering where to get one
Makasai@reddit
maybe one day there will be some funny import loophole for chinese AKs. A man can dream.
sickels61@reddit
And that sweet sweet x39.
queeblosan@reddit
Is there a version with a 28 inch barrel?
Tintedwindowz_001@reddit
I'm having problems with their page even loading..seems the sight is partially down.
OldManLobo@reddit
For anyone looking they just restocked , grabbed me one .
TheFireOfPrometheus@reddit
So how do we upgrade this ?
Furniture?
Red dot and/or sights ?
SBS it if the stamp goes to zero?
Embarrassed-Lie2272@reddit (OP)
All compatible with 870 stuff except barrels
TheFireOfPrometheus@reddit
Thank you,
I haven’t looked at it, best bang for the buck probably Magpul furniture and a Holosun red dot?
justjaybee16@reddit
Glad these went out of stock. I currently have about a dozen shotguns and was kind of throwing some side eye at this deal based solely on price.
Tintedwindowz_001@reddit
I was eyeing it hard lastnight..there were around 80 in stock. Wild how they moved so fast..
melaflander34@reddit
What's the difference between this and the Steven's 320?
justjaybee16@reddit
For future reference, the Stevens 320 is based on the Benelli Nova Rotating Bolt.
melaflander34@reddit
Oh okay. I didn't know! I'm dumb on shotguns.
justjaybee16@reddit
it's easy to get lost when you start talking about all of the different imported guns floating around.
Embarrassed-Lie2272@reddit (OP)
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Rokkmachine@reddit
Gone
ArizonaGunCollector@reddit
OOS
Smitty_0313@reddit
Did I need one? No. Did I buy one? Yes. GunDeals got me again.
Rjsmith5@reddit
Nice to see these back and cheaper than ever.
Drunk3ngineer@reddit
So if I got this could I slap any 870 barrel on it? If I could throw a rifled slug barrel on it it'd make a good backup deer gun
sickels61@reddit
No that's really the only thing that isn't parts compatible with 870S
Time_Investment5945@reddit
There’s no adapter for them ? I know my pardner pump and the hawk had one but it was always out of stock.
Embarrassed-Lie2272@reddit (OP)
It will take the same adapter, if you can find it
Mobile-Plankton7088@reddit
rEdDiT dArLiNg
Embarrassed-Lie2272@reddit (OP)
The maverick 88 is as Reddit as BCM upper aero lower dude
Mobile-Plankton7088@reddit
I'm sorry but i was born in the 1900s
novaben98@reddit
Does this take regular 870 chokes?
Embarrassed-Lie2272@reddit (OP)
If the barrel is the same as my Hawk, it is a fixed cylinder bore barrel.
Inner-Mix-1669@reddit
Do these have tapped holes for pic rail like the 870?
Embarrassed-Lie2272@reddit (OP)
No, unfortunately.
TheNinthDoc@reddit
Do they make this with a field barrel? I need a field shotgun and I'm quite fond of Chinese 870 clones.
Embarrassed-Lie2272@reddit (OP)
689585855566 is gonna be your SKU for the field version
DarthMonkey212313@reddit
I guess I'm in for 1
What is the level of compatibility with aftermarket 870 parts? Dog carrier springs, aftermarket followers, barrels, stocks, etc.
Embarrassed-Lie2272@reddit (OP)
Everything except barrels. You can get an adapter to use 870 barrels.
Needcz@reddit
Better hurry, they had 90 in stock when this posted, now there are 11
Snoo76929@reddit
Its my cheapest gun and my favorite to shoot. My only complaint is no rear sight, just the gold bead on the front (maybe this is normal for shotguns idk??)
Took me a minute to figure out my slugs were going way high at 50 yards cuz i didnt know how to aimvwith it
tony_simprano@reddit
yeah bead sight shotguns usually only have a front sight for "reflexive" shooting like for birds and sporting clays and such.
Snoo76929@reddit
I really want to try shooting clays. Will my local club look at me funny if I show uo with this?
tony_simprano@reddit
Shouldn’t be a problem, just remember that the shotgun’s action must be OPEN along with being empty whenever not on the firing line
(I learned this the hard way)
unholydesires@reddit
Some clubs and clay ranges have minimum barrel length restrictions. Bead is fine for clay.
More-Psychology1827@reddit
Reeves did a burn down on the China built Stevens 320 and it passed. I have both the 320 & the BL-18 and the BL is built better. No doubt it would easily pass his 1000 rd burn down test! These shotguns are built like a tank. This is a no brainer price.
srfb437@reddit
I've had a Pardner Pump for years and it has been rock solid. Cool they're still available.
bruce988jl@reddit
Have one at home with 300ish rounds through it. Works mint for a fun toy to bring to the range. Never had any issues with it yet.
Squirrelynuts@reddit
Chy-na
Logen_6Ninefingers@reddit
In for one! Also ordered myself a Choate +1, a Hogue 12" LOP stock, a Magpul MS1, and some sling swivels. Have some Esstac cards that will ride in a USGI 6mag bandolier.
Questions:
Is this drilled on top of the receiver for a rail?
What ways do you guys like to run lights on your shotguns? Will this take one of those Streamlight foreends?
sickels61@reddit
I have the streamlight (870) pump on mine. If you haven't used one before you may experience some discomfort running it. Personally I didn't experience any issues, as far as ergonomics, but i know some go either way on the streamlight pumps
bacchusgun@reddit
lmao i dont even like shotguns but got one out of principle. thx op. or is it no thx?
dmaster3@reddit
This or the Mav 88? Was about to get the field / security mav combo this week. Also, I picked a helluva week to buy an M2 field with all these deals dropping now 😂
nope_noway_@reddit
I just bought the security Mav combo.. still need to pick it up from the LGS but might get this as well and save on the transfer
Appropriate-Bar-3654@reddit
This thing is awesome for the money got mine in Nov-Dec last year when it was posted on this sub for $150. Only have around 200rds of mixed slug and 00 buck but so far it's been 100% reliable. I would get a 2nd one but I already too many shotguns.
Alternative_Cry_4917@reddit
have this one prob shot like 150 shells so far. It's good enough for a bathroom shotgun, i've had a few double feeds and jams but I'm assuming it was due to user error. In the event that it fails on you during a home invasion it can double as a blunt weapon due to how hefty it is.
yourmommaisaho@reddit
I love my 982 which is the exact same as this shotgun. I still prefer my Mossbergs but this is a solid deal if you need a boomstick. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one if needed
kidobscure@reddit
is this anything like the H&R pardner pump protector? if so, im in for another one
yourmommaisaho@reddit
The only real difference is that western style back hump on the receiver of the H&Rs that stands out from most 870s and clones. Other than that it's your Pardner Pump.
TheSauciestBoss@reddit
I just bought a Maverick 88 with both barrel lengths.. do I need this?
DeadbeatPillow1@reddit
No it would be redundant.
azdirt@reddit
Or... yes, for redundancy?
ManOf1000Usernames@reddit
You never know when you need a loaner shotgun for a friend
dRedPirateRoberts9@reddit
Redundant. I bought this cause I was gifted a Mav 88 but only has the 28" barrel.
Jason1435@reddit
Hawk (98)two uh?
Famanche@reddit
I have a Hawk 982 I bought a decade ago. It always worked fine even after being thrown around and treated like crap although the ghost ring aperture fell off of the rear sight one day while shooting in the mountains. I replaced the whole rear sight with a Mesa rail instead. This is pretty damn cheap for these guys, I think I paid 250 at a pawn shop for mine.
Showing 153 shipped to VA (no tax).
Southpolespear@reddit
This is the best news I've heard in a long time. I own a Hawk 982 with the ghost ring sights that I bought back in like early 2010's. I regret not buying multiple of them, they are incredible shotguns for the money.
1jzgte-e30@reddit
To be exact this is more like IAC Hawk 981 which only equipped with a bead sight. The Norinco/Interstate Arm Hawk 982 had a ghost ring sight.
SRPWCM@reddit
Dirt cheap shotgun week continues!
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