Those people who pay for Mounjaro, what will you do in light of the recent announcement of the massive price hike?

Posted by LadyFinduillas@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 361 comments

I've budgeted really carefully to be able to afford it, but there's no way I will be able to pay the hugely increased price and I also don't think I'd want to on principle. Was just wondering what other people think, will you switch to Wegovy? I do agree with some of the comments I've seen online from Americans who said that if they are determined to bring prices in line for other countries, why couldn't theirs have been made cheaper rather than making ours more expensive.

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waitedforg0d0t@reddit

man, a lot more people are on these drugs than I realised

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DaVirus@reddit

Is it? Obesity is one of the biggest health concerns at the moment and now we have a solution. No one is surprised that antidepressants get more usage every year.

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haigboardman@reddit

We always had a solution

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DaVirus@reddit

Do you know how ridiculous it sounds to want people to just do it the hard way for no reason? What, a sense of moral superiority? C'mon. These drugs are miracles of pharmaceutical tech.

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haigboardman@reddit

I don't want people to do anything, just saying even if this jab disappears it is not impossible to lose weight. Hard definitely, but not impossible. Im also overweight btw.

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sprunkymdunk@reddit

About 80% if diets fail. It's actually extremely difficult to lose weight long term, and most people won't achieve lasting weight loss. I had similar opinions until my metabolism slowed lol

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Alwayslearnin41@reddit

I'm not taking mounjaro, but I am using weight loss medication and it's helping massively. None of these drugs will stop us regaining the weight though. At some point, you have to stop using the medication. Long term weight management is what is so difficult. And anyone who has repeatedly lost, gained, lost, gained, will know how miserable that cycle is. Whether there's easy weight loss or not, the management to maintain a healthy weight is where there needs to be medications. But there's no money in that!

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CrossCityLine@reddit

Out of interest. What are you taking?

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orange_lighthouse@reddit

The same is true of the jabs. If they don't change their lifestyle they'll gain it all back.

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haigboardman@reddit

I know. So is it not possible at all to lose weight without these jabs?

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munday97@reddit

The point is while possible many people make repeated attempts and fail.

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Ordinary-Wheel7102@reddit

What point are you actually trying to make? Doesn’t the fact the person said 80% of diets fail tell you that 20% of diets don’t? So what are you actually trying to prove?

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haigboardman@reddit

The point I was trying to make was even if this jab didn't exist there is still a way to lose weight, I never said it was easy and I'm not slagging this jab off. If people are offended by such a basic statement then that's on them and they should get a grip

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Ordinary-Wheel7102@reddit

Basic sense would tell you that diet and exercise existed before the jab too and yet obesity is still the number one health issue. Saying “there is still a way to lose weight, I never said it was easy” adds literally nothing to the conversation. Everyone knows there is a way to lose weight without the jab. It’s an extremely simple view and doesn’t account for the many difficulties people face in trying to lose weight. As the other user said 80% of diets fail. So yes there are other ways to lose weight but having such a simple view will only lead to the obesity crisis getting worse.

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haigboardman@reddit

It does add to the conversation, the price is going up and I’m suggesting using the cheaper alternative way if you can’t afford it :)

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iWasDISSOCIATING@reddit

Some people are overweight because of health conditions, some due to greed/laziness. Which one are you?

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Theratchetnclank@reddit

They never said any of that.

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DaVirus@reddit

They implied it by saying there was always a solution. Ofc there was. Eat less, exercise more. And where did that get us? Making things easier is what the entirety of human progress is based on.

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Cliffe419@reddit

To be fair, eating healthily and exercise is pretty easy.

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Stolen_Away@reddit

Eating healthily is becoming prohibitively expensive

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haigboardman@reddit

But a £330 a month medication isn’t expensive?

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Cliffe419@reddit

It really isn’t. I can guarantee my weekly food shop is less expensive than any freezer based processed food. Use your local farm shop.

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haigboardman@reddit

And that's great. I'm in favour of these jabs. But without it people are still capable of losing weight. It's like saying you cannot give up smoking without the help of vaping, patches etc. It is still possible.

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labbusrattus@reddit

Technically possible doesn’t always translate into actually possible, whatever the reason.

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matomo23@reddit

Silly Billy. It’s that easy hey?

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haigboardman@reddit

Definitely not, takes a lot of discipline and a lot of time. Forget diets, it’s about a permanent lifestyle change. In theory one should never get obese unless a medial issue causes you too.

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BrieflyVerbose@reddit

My girlfriend has PCOS and has insulin resistance. I've watched her eat the same amount of food as our 4/5 year old son for weeks and still put weight on. She simply cannot lose weight fast enough, it's not enough. This has been the only thing that has worked for her. This isn't some easy solution either, she's constantly nauseous, or unwell. It's not a situation where you just take a jab and life is good, she's genuinely struggling to stay well. But it's working so she's battling through it.

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ChoosingToBeLosing@reddit

If the solution doesn't work for 98% of cases (proportion of people who gain weight after losing it with diet and exercise, according to research and data), it's not a solution.

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Plus-Pop-8702@reddit

The solution was around for billions of years since the laws of thermodynamics have applied stop filling your face with more excess calories than you burn per day. Simple They will just find a way to eat past the drugs effect, just like they did with gastric band surgery.

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ByEthanFox@reddit

Every human is different. You go outside and you see people who are short, tall, blue eyed, brown eyed, mathematically gifted, with natural rhythm, visual learners, written learners, gay, straight, tone deaf, amazing singers... ... Why do you feel all humans, given the massive diversity we see every day, experience food response and satiety in an identical way?

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DaVirus@reddit

As easy as telling an alcoholic to have just one drink. Or a depressed person to cheer up. Even if it is their fault, there is no reason to not give them easy solutions.

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weneedstrongerglue@reddit

If the majority of depressed people could magically be cured by eating less and exercising more, they would do that. It's not the same thing.

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BeyondAggravating883@reddit

Need free time for that. Slinging women into work full time and supermarket proliferation has been disastrous.

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Pen_dragons_pizza@reddit

I’ll never understand why use the argument of no free time as an excuse for being over weight. Even being poor doesn’t mean you need to eat shit food, people have options and ways to tackle weight gain yet do nothing and blame it on other things because they are lazy and don’t want to put in the hard work to change. Now people will spend hundreds a month on a drug to make them thin yet couldn’t find that money to eat well and a gym membership beforehand.

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UndulatingUnderpants@reddit

I was on it for a year, lost over 40kg (about 7 stone), mounjaro doesn't just stop your appetite it kills the food addiction too. I'm off it now, I've picked up some healthy hobbies, still losing weight (albeit slower) and my relationship with food has changed. It's not just "lazy people with no willpower" that are obese, overeating is definitely a mental health/addiction issue.

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BeyondAggravating883@reddit

Prior to supermarkets pushing terrible foods on us, fat people were rare. Many didn’t go to the gym. What changed? Sending mummy to work so she took food shortcuts.

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Pen_dragons_pizza@reddit

This makes no sense, it isn’t the women’s job anymore to slave away in the kitchen. Modern family’s share the load, taking turns cooking, helping out etc. blaming obesity on the fact women are sent to work just comes across as a husband who is angry his wife has to work and is now blaming that on being fat. Cooking a healthy dinner can take as little as 20 minutes, the same amount of time it would take to cook an oven pizza or order a takeaway and wait for it to arrive, options are available if people educate themselves on the correct foods to eat.

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BeyondAggravating883@reddit

You live in La La land. What’s the explanation then. Everyone just suddenly got lazy? All at once across the western world. I blame supermarkets.

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BeyondAggravating883@reddit

And parents not having the time.

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iamworsethanyou@reddit

Women working is a bad thing? Not sure if I've misunderstood or you're daft as a brush

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FrederickNorth@reddit

Lmao

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DaVirus@reddit

Except part of depression is literally being unable to care to do anything about it a lot of the time... It's absolutely the same thing.

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TheYorkshireGripper@reddit

Yeah its like cocaine, everyone apparently does it, but nobody talks about it.

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BenButton123@reddit

You're on Reddit. It shouldn't be a surprise.

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testfjfj@reddit

Yeah, I thought it was some super-niche thing!

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GetYourRockCoat@reddit

Yeah recently found out two of the lads' wives are on it. I thought they'd just been going ham in the gym. But they are now reliant on it. As are millions. Almost like this was likely the plan in the beginning.

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pm_me_your_amphibian@reddit

Hopefully you already realise from the first sentence that you haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about

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GetYourRockCoat@reddit

Well I am just going off the conversations I had with the two boys. Came up between them on a night out. I just took from it what I heard mate.

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PaulaDeen21@reddit

This is real shock to me…

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InternationalRich150@reddit

Whats sad to me is people saying but ill just get fat and die without it. So they've not attempted to try and change eating habits,exercise,nothing but a dependence on an expensive drug designed to help diabetics. Its absolutely terrifying.

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ddmf@reddit

Ah mate you know nothing but internal biases. I'm 50, I've been watching what I've been eating for more than 30 years and this drug has been as miraculous for me as champix was for stopping smoking. If you're not someone who spends every waking moment thinking about food then that's awesome, cico obviously works for you, and if you get a little bit extra weighty you can easily watch what you eat for a few weeks and drop that couple of pounds - for the other side of that it's absolutely horrendous - you know how bad it is for you, you can spend a month or so religiously counting calories and watching what you eat and still not lose weight. All you think about is food, every waking moment. Have a bit of empathy.

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CoolieC@reddit

Literally. I’m so tired of thinking about food 😒

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shashastar@reddit

Can I just ask, is this "food noise" and is it a symptom of another condition? I see quite a few folks on these threads mention the constant thinking about food as a major factor that impedes weight loss and I'm just wondering. Does it develop over time or is it something that you have always struggled with? Not trying to be insensitive, just curious.

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ddmf@reddit

It's hard to explain if you've never experienced it - I didn't realise I was so different having it until mounjaro removed it entirely. It's just a constant voice inside your head that talks about food - what we having later, when are we going to have it, what's new, bet it tastes lovely, then what can we have with it, for dessert.

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shashastar@reddit

Thank you so much for explaining! I get it now. Sounds similar to what I experienced before I realised I had a problem and quit drinking alcohol. But obviously, you can't just quit food. Brutal.

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ddmf@reddit

Ah that sounds terrible, I've never been like that with alcohol, I rarely drink, can empathise though and agree it must be hard.

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Ok-Information4938@reddit

If you're not using weight, it's because you're eating too many calories. Empirical evidence is really clear on weight loss. You're probably eating more than you think or not maintaining a deficit.

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InternationalRich150@reddit

I.used to weigh 18 stone. I weigh 12 now. So don't come at me about this shit when i worked hard to get my weight off. You know nothing about me. But i know I put the hard work in and didn't whine about it hurting.

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Priscaney@reddit

You're still just one person. You cannot speak for anyone else, just your own personal experience. Also, if it didn't hurt you, then you straight-up *didn't* struggle as much as other people. 1500 calories a day with exercise was unbearable agony for me at age 34. At age 20, 500 calories a day while over-exercising wasn't even as much agony. The experience of hunger can vary wildly even for *one* person throughout a single lifetime.

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gameofgroans_@reddit

Also for some people there’s no in between between eating “too much” or struggling with an ED. For me if I’m restrictive, I’m eating one meal a day and nothing else and wondering why I feel faint all the time.

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Sea-Principle-9527@reddit

My mum went from morbidly obese to a healthy BMI with these and she was fat as fuck for 30 years always on a "diet" but never not craving food. She was really addicted to food badly even though she was ashamed of it. It's hard to believe but fat people are just addicted to food like a dog with the genes that make them never feel full

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bllobblong@reddit

holy fuck dude, develop some empathy for other people

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Dry_Yogurt2458@reddit

I was somebody that was obese. I hit 40 and thought Fuck this. Started exercising and changed my diet completely. Find I could still eat a lot, I just swapped the bag stuff for food filling stuff and counted the calories. I lost all the weight and became very fit. It was hard, really hard. But once habits kicked in it was a lot easier.

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Nice_Back_9977@reddit

Most of them have tried literally everything, some have had even bariatric surgery which didn't work for them.

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sweatyminge@reddit

Tried everything apart from not eating, which is exactly what this drug enables you to do. It's sad but the reality is some people do not have the willpower and are not resourceful enough to do it alone.

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Nice_Back_9977@reddit

Not eating isn't an option.

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Ok-Information4938@reddit

What the poster means, is that thr drugs drastically cut your eating. So being able to eat half the portions and not snack. Do that without the drug - which is behavioural - and get the same effect.

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Nice_Back_9977@reddit

No, not the same effect at all, because you wouldn't feel full after that amount of food and your body and brain would scream at you and send you constant messages telling you to eat more to keep it nourished. These drugs aren't just an 'eat less' switch, they work on the endocrine system and let your body feel safely satiated and not at risk of starvation with smaller amounts.

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Tuarangi@reddit

I doubt most of them have tried "literally everything" as opposed to the odd yo-yo diets or a few weeks exercise and then giving in unless you have some evidence to the contrary? Even if they have, all the medical evidence shows that as soon as they stop on these drugs, unless they actively change, they just put on weight again indicating most don't change lifestyle and just eat less of the bad food. They use it as a band aid, and this offers further evidence that they didn't try much before going on the drugs. Are they meant to spend their life on these drugs or should they make the changes that would prevent the need for the drugs in the first place?

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Nice_Back_9977@reddit

It would be great if there was psychological help available too, but the waiting lists for that are years and years long. And yes, of course they have tried everything, its weird that you refuse to believe that despite so many people on here being open and honest about it. I even tried literally starving myself and bulimia, funnily enough it didn't help!

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Spank86@reddit

There are women in my fitness classes that take it. They have active jobs, work out a minimum of 3-4 times a week and try to eat healthily, which is harder with a house full of kids so you cant empty the place of snacks, but if you're a middle age woman then chances are you need easily sub 1200 calories to start to slowly shift weight. One bad day can break a week or more.

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infieldcookie@reddit

This is a huge part of it that many people don’t get, especially if they’re male and/or taller than average. I have a BMR of about 1,200. On a day I don’t exercise I burn about 1,500 calories a day in total. To lose 1lb a week you need a deficit of 500 calories a day, but it’s impossible to feel full on 1,000 a day (and it’s not recommended). If I then add in exercise I’m going to add to my hunger as well (swimming especially makes me feel hungry). At least the medication helps me increase exercise and reduce my food intake without feeling starving all the time.

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The-Smelliest-Cat@reddit

"Why don't fat people just lose weight"

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Agitated-Tourist9845@reddit

Well, being lazy got them in to their situation. Why would you expect them to do anything to change? Literally this https://preview.redd.it/0t65onfwi7jf1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e4d9586c11ca1e197a49bf72b5e649db1afdf48f

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gameofgroans_@reddit

There’s a lot of reasons that people cannot or struggle with losing weight. Maybe be a bit more considerate.

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OrdinaryQuestions@reddit

I have PCOS which can affect metabolism, energy, etc. And the amount of influencers who jump on thjs and tell women with PCOS that its IMPOSSIBLE to lose weight with diet and exercise is insane. Theyre all trying to sell a supplement or something. But so many with PCOS hear and accept this. It somewhat... absolves of accountability. You know? And now PCOS communities are packed full of everyone asking about GLP1 saying calorie deficit doesn't work, that we NEED monjaro, etc. Its crazy. Its creating this toxic cycle where people come to this pages/subs/etc for support, see negativity and "impossible". So give up their diets, think theres no hope, etc. And this is happening in so many other types of groups with different conditions. These drugs can be AMAZING for many. But theres also many who have become very dependent on it and refuse to accept any possible alternative. >So they've not attempted to try and change eating habits,exercise,nothing but a dependence on an expensive drug designed to help diabetics. And so.... this is why so many report hair loss, or gaining their weight back when they quit monjaro etc. They relied on it for the weight loss. Didn't learn good nutrition or healthy eating patterns. And went back to how they were once off. People are using it as a miracle cure and not a tool to *assist*

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zanazanzar@reddit

I ordered three pens yesterday from three different pharmacies. I may order one more. But then I’m finished.

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jdph11@reddit

How do you do this? Ir is it the starting dose? Mine eill only give me 15mg if ive been with them befire. Thanks

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zanazanzar@reddit

Sorry I don’t understand your question.

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Iamtir3dtoday@reddit

I had a pen arrive yesterday that expires 31/01 so I reckon you can probably have five pens stockpiled and be good.

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zanazanzar@reddit

Yeah I just ordered one more and when I get paid next week I think I’ll order another if they’re even in stock then. It is what it is. I’m just glad I started when I started and didn’t continue to put it off.

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Iamtir3dtoday@reddit

Nice! PharmacyOnline are doing two pens together still btw. Managed to order twice from them.

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HalcyonRyan@reddit

Before MJ I was suicidal and hated my life… now I work out every 2 days knowing I won’t go home and stuff my face with no control and guilt… the news sent me spiraling… I can’t afford it… so really don’t know what to do after feeling in control and comfortable in my body for the first time in my life… I’m deathly scared and worried I fall into bad habits again. I truly don’t know what to do.

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Hot-Health7006@reddit

For the people using it purely for quick weight loss, it may force them to take up more rigorous exercise and plan dietary requirements.

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Halliron@reddit

You assume they've never tried this?

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Western-Climate-2317@reddit

Yes because if they did then they wouldn’t need it

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HeavenDraven@reddit

No,it really isn't. I have a permanent calorie defecit, I don't actually consume enough to naimtain my weight....and yet I *can't* lose any. Combination of PCOS and inhaled steroids for asthma. Moreso the steroids, because if my script runs out, I magically start to drop a few pounds. In my view, if meds keep it on, meds can take it off!

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Western-Climate-2317@reddit

Yeah you’re definitely not tracking your calories correctly. The laws of thermodynamics don’t change buddy.

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HeavenDraven@reddit

I most definitely am.i have weighed things, counted things, included drinks, (you'll notice I said "consume" and not "eat") rounded up, and lived off meal replacement shakes. There have been points in time where I've literally had one meal a day and otherwise survived off Monster. (Not on purpose) Calories in are considerably fewer than the lowest estimate of calories out. I've tried (under medical advice) cutting 50 calories, cutting 100, upping exercise which nearly killed me, *increasing* the amount I ate, and the only things that make *any* difference are either removing the steroids, or taking meds. Even at completely sedentary, which I'm not, it should take approx 3000 calories a day to maintain my weight. I'm consuming less than half that.

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ettabriest@reddit

Same here with PCOS and asthma. I’m not obese but overweight so don’t qualify but it’s impossible to lose anything. I’ve never binged or overeaten. In fact if anything I’m pretty careful. Infuriating!

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Western-Climate-2317@reddit

Track your calories correctly and be honest about your activity levels with a weight loss calculator and you’ll see some changes. It’s hard to hear but it’s the truth.

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WeekendWithoutMakeUp@reddit

You are an absolute fud and you have no idea what you're talking about. It's hard to hear, but it's the truth.

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ettabriest@reddit

Lol. PCOS is a not very well understood metabolic condition. One of the side effects is insulin resistance/ raised testosterone and an inability to lose weight. I was pretty fit and active, spinning, gym, running, I literally couldn’t get under 10 stone yet when I was on the pill the weight fell off me because it sorted out the hormonal issues.

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Programmer-Severe@reddit

If you're not losing weight you're not in calorie deficit, that's a simple truth. First law of thermodynamics.

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vientianna@reddit

And you don’t need anti depressants either huh? A good chuckle at a comedy club is all you need to raise your spirits

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Western-Climate-2317@reddit

Totally different thing. Eating less calorie dense food is very easy, make swaps to more satiating foods and you’ll notice a difference.

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vientianna@reddit

Sigh

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MaltDizney@reddit

Not everyone has the same appetite levels, a consistent caloric deficit means constant hunger for those who struggle with elevated appetites, hence why many fail long term. Weight loss jabs just bring appetite down to normal levels.

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Western-Climate-2317@reddit

Some people lack willpower and that’s okay.

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Cognitiveshadow1@reddit

Not be rude, but if they’d tried it and stuck to it, they wouldn’t need the jabs. Don’t even need the exercise. Just the calorie deficit.

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Halliron@reddit

No shit? Everyone knows this, it’s not some magical knowledge. The problem is for many people it’s very difficult to stick to it. What do you think the drugs do anyway? Did you think they just magically melt away the fat? Their main impact is to suppress the appetite and make it much easier to stick to it.

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Cognitiveshadow1@reddit

I know exactly what the drugs do. It’s not me making out their magic, people acting as if being cut off is the end of their weight loss are. It’s called will power. Exercise it.

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Hot-Health7006@reddit

I didn't assume anything. I answered the question the OP asked in an honest and polite manner What I do assume is that a small amount of daily exercise and healthy food would make you lose weight and be cheaper.

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DullHovercraft3748@reddit

I get the impression people think you can sit around eating takeaways and still lose weight. You still need to put the effort in to see results, I'm dieting and exercising but Mounjaro helps keep me on track and motivated.

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andyuk_90@reddit

God forbid!

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ResplendentBear@reddit

UK reddit puritanical side never far away.

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JeebusWept@reddit

With a minimal bit of research, you’ll be able to source semaglutide or retatrutide from China. You’re looking about £10-£20 a vial depending on dose, which should last about a month. You can buy ten vials at a time for the price of one pen.

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jdph11@reddit

Can you share a link please?

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PhantomFairy@reddit

If the MJ price goes up by less than £50, I'll keep taking it. If the MJ price goes up more than £50, and Wegovy's price doesn't change, I'll go to Wegovy. If Wegovy also has a price jump, I'll quit the meds thing completely and see what happens with Reta and the others The clinics will have to 'do something' or their profits will collapse, so I'm watching and waiting. I used MJ to manage an auto immune issue. It's the only thing that stopped my hair falling out. So I'm not looking forward to life without it.

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ashisacat@reddit

If it helps early signs are it's going up from £150ish to £330ish.

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Space-manatee@reddit

One place has confirmed £270 for 15mg. But that’s up from £145

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sgst@reddit

I was being ripped off by asda online doctors then. I've been paying £215 for 12.5mg already. And I haven't even lost any weight yet, it's just stopped me gaining it. Not sure if it's just not as effective on me or what, but I have emotional/stress eating problems I need to overcome as well. The MJ hasn't helped at all with that, but it has helped the rest of the time.

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lockdownlockout@reddit

Can I confirm you’ve been on mounjaro for 4+ months and lost not a single lb? What did your doctor say?

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Spinkhorn@reddit

I was on it for 8 months and lost 25kg but then the effects wore off even on the higher doses and I put 10kg back on as it was literally doing nothing for me anymore. I'm now not on it and just about managing to keep my weight steady instead of going up. I tried starting it again and still no effect sadly.

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Alwayslearnin41@reddit

I feel this. Maintaining a healthy weight after being over weight is exceptionally difficult. Those of us who have been over weight will never be able to eat the way people who have never been overweight. It's a very difficult thing to achieve and I wish you, and all of us, well. Unfortunately, there would be no money in creating a drug that stops you gaining weight.

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Spinkhorn@reddit

I find the motivation comes and goes. I can track everything for weeks at a time and be making good progress and keeping up with my gym and running schedule and then suddenly one week I can barely manage anything except barely doing my job and the housework etc. I find once I'm out of the routine it's almost impossible to get back in again somehow. Mounjaro helped because at least on the bad days/weeks I was still not that hungry so not eating much. But eventually it started wearing off and I was able to binge eat and drink again, where previously I had nearly no desire to. With this news I am going to try Wegovy now. Best of luck to you too.

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Alwayslearnin41@reddit

I'm using Orlistat and I love it. I am likely only going to get it for another 3 months though - then what? I've been able to eat around 150 calories more than I usually have to eat to lose weight. That's been wonderful as I've not been hungry at all. But if I have to drop those calories, and a few more, I'm going to struggle immediately. It's not as straightforward as "eat less, move more". Yes, the science, and logic and reason, dictates that's how to lose weight. The reality is quite different. I really hope wegovy gets you back on track so that you can achieve all your goals - weight and life in general.

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sgst@reddit

I lost 6kg initially because the MJ made me horribly sick for 2 months (initial 2.5mg in December last year, then 5mg dose January this year). Talked to the doctor and dropped back down to 2.5mg and took it more slowly to go up the doses - 2 months per dose. That really helped and I didn't get nauseous or horrific reflux any more. Haven't lost anything after that, no. The asda online doctors haven't reached out to me about how it's going or done any kind of review. They do send out automated encouragement emails but that's it. They know how much I'm (not) losing as I have to enter my weight every time I re-order.

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lockdownlockout@reddit

That sounds like a horrible experience. I really hope you find the solution and feel better.

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sgst@reddit

Thank you. TBH things have been difficult lately, hence the stress eating. I'm autistic, dyslexic, have brain damage from years of untreated severe sleep apnea, dyspraxic, have an autoimmune disease, CPTSD from childhood, treatment resistant depression and general anxiety disorder. Life has always felt on 'hard mode', leading to a lifetime of bad eating habits. I really hoped that MJ would help with all of it, but the stress eating actually got worse this year due to my workplace turning toxic and severe depression that's resulted. I probably would have gained a lot if it wasn't for the MJ, so at least there's that. I'm just really sad now thinking that I won't be able to afford it any more (couldn't in the first place, was borrowing from family), and what that might mean.

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Jr79@reddit

Please excuse my ignorance, but is this per month?

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ashisacat@reddit

Four weekly doses, yes.

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AngryGardenGnomes@reddit

Five if you simply by an extra syringe

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burtsarmpson@reddit

Is that true??

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Honest-Confection291@reddit

Yes

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burtsarmpson@reddit

Why don't they just supply it with four doses if they're selling it as four?

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AngryGardenGnomes@reddit

Did you mean five? I don't know...perhaos to maximise profits?

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burtsarmpson@reddit

No I mean why put five doses in the pen and sell it as four? They're giving away a dose whether people know it or not. That's the opposite of maximising profits

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AngryGardenGnomes@reddit

I dunno. The advice is to squeeze some out before injecting to get rid of any air bubbles. So maybe gives them some leeway?

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burtsarmpson@reddit

Oh yeah makes sense

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lukebryant9@reddit

My guess is that they are legally bound to provide 4 full doses, and it's cheaper to do that reliably by adding some extra than to ensure there's always precisely 4 doses.

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Honest-Confection291@reddit

They leave enough in there so that you can prime the pen, the pen doesn’t physically let you get a fifth dose out which is why people use a syringe

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GovernmentBroad9934@reddit

Actually my provider always sends 5 needles and for the 5th dose you just force twist cap around until it snaps and then you can wind it out and get a 5th dose.

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burtsarmpson@reddit

Oh I see thank you

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Mammoth_Pumpkin9503@reddit

I think there’s been a lot of scaremongering - a few pharmacies have put out an email saying the increase could be between 10-50% (which is a lot) which is not as severe as the 170% banded about.

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Groovy66@reddit

I make 170% on £150 to be more like £400 per month

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Bloody-smashing@reddit

I use mine for my autoimmune illness as well. Instead of just collapsing into bed at 9pm I can be functional. It's made such a difference to my fatigue.

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ubiquitous_uk@reddit

The 15mg cost price to pharmacies is going up to £330.00, so the new pricing will almost certainly be above this unless some kind of deal is done on purchase discounts.

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SeaFr0st@reddit

If wegovy were smart they would wait long enough for most people to switch and then raise the price to a similar level so that’s its not worth switching back.

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zerumuna@reddit

Where did you get it from to manage an autoimmune issue if you don’t mind me asking? I have seen studies saying it helps manage endometriosis which I’ve been diagnosed with, I’ve tried every treatment available NHS and privately and am at the end of my rope. Tried to look into paying myself for these drugs and can’t get them as you need a high BMI to qualify for them privately. Seemed to me they are only being prescribed privately for weight loss?

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Warbarstard@reddit

There aren't any immediate signs that Wegovy prices will go up. Novo Nordisk is based in Denmark and doesn't have to bow to Trumps stupid demands

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Visible-Link3281@reddit

It is against the recommendations but I am just going to take it once every 2 weeks. I'm a super responder and have been on 5mg for 8 months and not needed to go up, lost the majority of my weight in the first 2 months. I've been accidentally pushing it about 10 days recently as It would render me unable to eat some days it's so strong for me. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Risks be damned its done too much for me elsewhere in my life to give it up just yet but I can't afford the projected increase

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Queen-Kirsty@reddit

Not exactly answering your question but just wanted to address a common worry I’ve seen cropping up for those who are taking it and suddenly stop! I was taking it for around 8 months and lost 100lb during that time but started having some health issues which resulted in me “pausing” the Mounjaro to rule out if it was due to that (it wasn’t, still ongoing!). This was just over 6 months ago now and I expected to pile the weight back on, especially as I just stopped dead. I have put some weight back on but no where near as much as I expected - I’ve put on roughly 11lb in that time and that does include me getting in a new relationship and all the indulging in eating out etc that brings! Just wanted to share that because it was a huge worry of mine but has actually been a lot better than I thought. I did intend to restart the Mounjaro and, ironically, was going to start next month - still wasn’t quite at the weight I wanted to be at and obviously put on that bit extra too. However, with the pricing changes - I definitely will not be

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Mammoth_Pumpkin9503@reddit

Well done on your weight loss and good luck with your ongoing health issues.

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Isgortio@reddit

Have you found your appetite/hunger is any worse than it was before you started? Or is it now at a more normal level now your mind knows just how little you actually need to eat?

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hyper-casual@reddit

Continue to get it from abroad for a fraction of the price.

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ettabriest@reddit

Lol. I wouldn’t if you mean china.

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hyper-casual@reddit

It's not from China, no. Had it tested and it's all legit, beats paying over the odds.

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feckingloser@reddit

I have just started after being on the T3 NHS weight loss management list for 6 months only to be told that there is a further 6-8month wait. It was already very expensive but I’m desperate! Where do you get yours from?

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hyper-casual@reddit

India. There's a bunch of places, but if you use India mart and vet the suppliers you can get legit stuff for a reasonable price. There's a bunch of pharmacies in India that mainly cater to Americans being ripped off by their prices, but I use them for stuff all the time.

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ItsDominare@reddit

appreciate why you may not want to post any links in the sub, can you send me a dm?

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feckingloser@reddit

Interesting, thank you! I’ll have a look around tonight

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iamwollom@reddit

To everyone saying they are already getting ripped off etc. I use monj .co.uk, it's a comparison site for mounjaro including updated discount codes. (No affiliation)

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tacticall0tion@reddit

What will they do? If they can't afford it properly become fat again

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HeavyHuckleberry@reddit

Excuse the ignorance, but where do you buy this? Don’t you need a prescription? Are you just buying it from the website? Would love to know more

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feckingloser@reddit

Lots of online pharmacies offer various prescriptions. You still have to go through screening for it, and a qualified pharmacist will decide whether you are allowed to use it or not. I had to input my weight and height, as well as send various photos (standing in the scale, pictures of whole body in a few positions). It took around 4 days for me, but I know it took longer for others.

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HeavyHuckleberry@reddit

I had no idea this was the process. So through a pharmacy not a doc. Huh.

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KickIcy9893@reddit

A doctor signs off the prescription but all online. With Asda Doc you have to send photos of your body and stood on the scales to prove you're heavy enough.

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feckingloser@reddit

You can get it through your GP in some places, but it has extremely high criteria to do so.

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HeavyHuckleberry@reddit

So it’s better to go straight through a pharmacy then you think?

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CrystalQueen3000@reddit

There are various online registered pharmacies that people buy from, you need to register and do a consultation with a pharmacist to be prescribed. Personally I get mine in person from my local chemist.

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HeavyHuckleberry@reddit

No idea you didn’t need a doc. Great info. Thanks.

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UndulatingUnderpants@reddit

Any online pharmacy. I bought from Asda when I used i.

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Space-manatee@reddit

I think a lot of people will be jumping to Reta, and without it being regulated will either be a god send, or a medical disaster

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LadyFinduillas@reddit (OP)

Have to be honest and say I've never even heard of it. I will look into what it is, but if it's not regulated it's not something I'm going to go for.

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Space-manatee@reddit

It's this new thing - its what MJ was 2 years ago. Eli Lilly are doing trials and looking to put it to market next year or year after. But people are getting vials from China with mixed success in potency. TBH i will probably avoid it and switch to Wegovy if the prices are better. But it's always tempting i suppose.

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CeeApostropheD@reddit

Mounjaro? Wegovy? Am I sheltered if I'm just seeing those nouns for the first time? Trying to piece it together from the comments

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Nice_Back_9977@reddit

Never heard of Google? You mustn't follow the news either.

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CeeApostropheD@reddit

Generally I'm too lazy to switch tabs and type. Better being educated with a simple scroll if it's possible.

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patrickb1920@reddit

They're dieting drugs

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Bleuuuuuugh@reddit

Holy shitballs, a lot of people take this stuff. Can’t wait for the ‘turns out this is REALLY bad for you’ wave of illness that’s to come. That being said, nice to see the NHS aren’t funding it generally.

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sayleanenlarge@reddit

Move to ozempic

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thethirdbar@reddit

I've been taking Mounjaro since december and have lost 32kg. I'm currently on 7.5mg and am 2kg from my inital goal (which puts me low-mid overwieght BMI) and 11kg away from my new goal (which puts me into a healthy BMI). At my current rate of loss, i anticipate another 10-12 weeks to get to that goal, or near enough. i took my first dost of my current pen last night, and was planning to buy 1 more 7.5mg and then start titrating back down, so my plans in that regard haven't changed, though the cost increase isn't ideal it's manageable if it's only for 2-3 more pens. i feel grateful/lucky that i've had good success while keeping my dosage low - for those on higher doses the cost is much more significant. i am a bit worried about maintenance. i am and was always hoping to be able to titrate down and come off completely and still maintain my weight... but what if that doesn't work? at current pricing, with supplier discounts, a long term low maintenance dose is not appealing but is manageable. at the increased prices... i don't know. oushk have just emailed me singing the virtues of wegovy. that may be an option.

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questions4all-2022@reddit

Is it not the case of just sticking to the diet plan you are currently eating? I thought the drug removed the food noise so you don't over eat, which means your diet now is the one that's helping you loose weight? Trying to learn about this as my mum is considering it .

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Milam1996@reddit

Yes but a tonne of people taking it haven’t done anything to learn new food or exercise habits so are entirely reliant on it. Soon as they stop taking it they’ll be straight back to their old ways.

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Darkmelon12_@reddit

Downvoters are the ones in denial

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Dear_Grape_666@reddit

That or they just know you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

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Milam1996@reddit

Genuinely. Idk what they expect? To be on it for the rest of their life? It’s supposed to be used as an emergency medication to rapidly lose weight so you can then lead a normal healthy life. If you’re on it, you need to learn healthy eating habits, exercise requirements etc. starving yourself on ozempic is not going to lead to long term results or good health.

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Delicious_Payment769@reddit

No, they're not emergency medication. All the evidence points to long-term use to treat some of the underlying biology behind the disease of obesity. We wouldn't expect people to come off statins or insulin once their symptoms improve, so why is it the case for this? Dosage can be adjusted so that weight is maintained rather than losing. That's why so many are facing a difficult situation as the price increases.

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ettabriest@reddit

And a tonne of people who don’t need it will carry on buying it from dodgy beauticians or wherever. I’m not sure why some people are so cheesed off that obese folk are using it to avoid long term health issues and yet these people are actively abusing the stuff and no one seems to care.

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marquis_de_ersatz@reddit

A lot of people on it are eating very low calories. Like a few hundred a day.

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testfjfj@reddit

Wow really! How do you exercise and get through the day if you consistently only eat a few hundred calories a day?

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Honest-Confection291@reddit

The people eating low calories aren’t exercising

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marquis_de_ersatz@reddit

Well, you burn the fat. And if you don't manage to eat enough you get headaches and feel tired, but you don't die.

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thethirdbar@reddit

Well, no, reduced food noise is a side effect essentially. The main impact is to reduce appetite (fuller more quickly) and slow digestion (fuller for longer) though stimulating natural hormones which unfortunately don't work the same way for everybody. If it were as simple as 'sticking to the diet' I, and many others, probably wouldn't have spent (in my case, c.20) years yoyo-ing. If / when I stop taking it, the food noise will probably come back, my appetite will probably increase, my satiety will propbably reduce. I've developed good habits definitely, and I hope i can keep up with them, but it's still a bit demoralising of a prospect to think I will be going back to having to permanently feel hungry in order to maintain a healthy weight. It would be nice to be able to maintain a healthy weight and not feel hungry and/or deprived all the time. Who wants to spend their entire life on a diet?

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MassimoTrunkamide@reddit

Literally the business model of drug dealers, the first one is always "free"

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CuriousHuman111@reddit

Free? It was costing £200 a month!

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FactorVerborum@reddit

The most expensive dose is £145 a month, people paying £200 a month used overpriced pharmacies.

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matmah@reddit

Where is it £145 a month?

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AngryGardenGnomes@reddit

Lots of places do it for that. I paid like £140 a couple of days ago for the strongest pen.

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matmah@reddit

Can you name some rather than being cryptic? I've searched everywhere and cannot ifnd it at that price.

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tune-happy@reddit

Everyone uses this for best prices but prices have started rising in just the last few days and pharmacies are starting to sell out fast https://monj.co.uk/discount-mounjaro-price-list/

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AngryGardenGnomes@reddit

Hah best me to it

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FactorVerborum@reddit

Unfortunately this only applied to medicine bought 2 days ago or before. Plenty of places even had it for cheaper for the last year at least but now massive price increases have just been announced so offers are being pulled and prices going up.

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Isgortio@reddit

I had to pay more because it was the only pharmacy that didn't lump coeliac disease in with Crohn's and ulcerative colitis. The others, including the one recommended by the GP, rejected my applications straight away due to coeliac disease. The one I'm with hasn't rejected me as it wasn't included with those other conditions, and I've got it on my medical form under "other conditions". I did some research beforehand and coeliac isn't contraindicated with it, especially if it is diet controlled. I'm finally able to lose the weight that piled on when I was constantly hungry due to malnutrition before being diagnosed, and I have what feels like a normal appetite. My pharmacy emailed earlier to say they're going to try and keep the prices down for existing customers, so maybe having to pay the higher amount already will come in handy?

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turboRock@reddit

Going up to £330 in a few weeks

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ettabriest@reddit

Yes boots is really expensive for no genuine reason like quality of service etc.

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JennyW93@reddit

I’m already working a part time job on top of my full time job to fund it at its current price. I’m extremely lucky in that I’ve been on it a year, have come on leaps and bounds in terms of lifestyle change, and am already beginning to titrate back down. I feel awful for folks only a few months in. Honestly, I don’t think I’ll worry too much until I see the new prices. The new list price doesn’t account for deals that individual pharmacies will broker - the prices will go up, but competition will still exist. If the lifestyle changes I’ve made aren’t enough to prevent weight regain, it’s not really the end of the world for me. I’m a healthy bmi now, I exercise a lot more now, I’ve counted calories and weighed my food for a year now. The habits are there, it just remains to be seen if that’s enough without the physiological support. The worst thing for me if I can’t access it anymore is that I went from 2 migraines a week to none, before I lost any weight. I’d had migraines before I was obese, so I’m quite concerned that coming off MJ may make the chronic migraines come back. It’s been truly life changing not having to suffer that anymore.

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Beepboop-bitch@reddit

Sorry to jump in - Have you been tested for Idiopathic Intercranial Hypertension? One of the big symptoms is chronic migraines, and my IIH specialist told me recently that they’ve seen early positive pressure level changes (and so less migraines) in patients using Mounjaro. I hope you don’t have it but it may be worth looking into

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JennyW93@reddit

To the downvoters: what would you have preferred I did differently? I spent about a decade attempting weight management both by myself and through various NHS programmes, including that 800 calorie a day programme. I wasn’t obese as a child. I became obese in my early 20s, through eating too much and not moving enough. I suspect that was partially due to having chronic migraine (leaving me bed-bound multiple days a week). I’m not inherently lazy or stupid - I was still able to get my PhD in a clinical science while suffering chronic migraine. I was also put on a 2nd gen antipsychotic for ptsd, which is known to cause metabolic syndrome, so that may also have contributed. Fundamentally, though, I ate too much and moved too little. While I do fully understand that I ate too much and moved too little, I also understand that the various programmes I attempted (under NHS guidance) were unsuccessful for me. So when my NHS gp recommended I get a private prescription for Mounjaro (because I met NHS criteria but my NHS health board is unable to afford it, so haven’t approved it), that’s what I did. Maybe it’s taking the easy way out. Maybe it’s cheating, if you believe weight management is inherently a moral question. But to me, if you’re eating soup with a fork your whole life and then someone offers you a spoon, you’d have to be pretty hard-minded to keep using the fork. As I’ve stated, I’ve implemented lifestyle changes and I’ve stuck to them rigorously for 56 weeks now. So what is the objection?

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Dear_Grape_666@reddit

If Mounjaro is legitimately helping you lose weight (and eliminating your migraines!) and it isn't giving you horrid side effects in exchange then... that's awesome, and I don't consider it cheating at all. By that logic, taking any bloody drug would be "cheating." Taking paracetamol for a headache would be "cheating", etc. It's daft logic.

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tinned_spaghetti@reddit

I can't believe people are mad, you're working two jobs and have completed a freaking PhD for goodness sakes, you're obviously far from lazy or looking for an 'easy' option. You can't win with some people. Congrats on sticking with your goals and being migraine free, don't let anyone's negativity pull you down.

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WeekendWithoutMakeUp@reddit

You don't have to explain yourself to anyone. Cunts who judge folk that use weight loss injections have never known what it's like to struggle with their weight, or are fat and have internalised the fatphobia demonstrated by too many people. I lost weight on Wegovy, came off the jabs nearly 18 months ago, and haven't put any weight back on. But I no longer need any significant will power to not over eat or to choose the right types of foods. I'm just wired differently now, and frankly it pisses me off even more, as I can appreciate how little the "eat less, exercise more" fannies have to try in order to not get fat, and just how little of an idea they have of what exerting "will power" feels like to an overweight person.

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DigiNaughty@reddit

>Maybe it’s taking the easy way out. Maybe it’s cheating It is not cheating because it is not a game with rules, and don't let any cunt tell you otherwise.

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Strict_Ad2788@reddit

Talk to your doctor about other migraine medication if you haven't already. I take propanalol (a beta blocker) and haven't had a migraine in 4 years.

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JennyW93@reddit

Yes, when you have migraines twice a week, they try all that. I’ve tried propranolol, triptans, Botox, tricyclic antidepressants, and rimegepant so far, to no avail.

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zerumuna@reddit

I know it’s annoying to have people constantly ask if you’ve tried things, but I’m on topiramate for mine and it’s taken me from a minimum of 20 headache days a month to a maximum of 5 :) hope you find something that works for you

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JennyW93@reddit

I’m actually a clinical brain scientist by training, and am quiiiiite apprehensive about topiramate. Glad it’s working for you, though! Hope it’s not causing you grief with side effects? The main thing with MJ for me is that a) it’s completely obliterated my migraines and b) I’ve not experienced any side effects. So from that perspective it’s been miraculous. Given that I got that benefit from the lowest dose, the private GP I use is happy to continue prescribing off-label for migraine, assuming I can continue to afford it. Thankfully the lowest doses seem to be the least impacted

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zerumuna@reddit

Makes me very forgetful which I’ve been told is permanent so I can see why you’d be apprehensive!! I’ll take it over all the migraines though :) Glad you’ve found something that works!

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JennyW93@reddit

Haha yeah, it’s sometimes referred to as “dopiramate” because it’s known to make people a bit dopey, which is where my fear stems from. The migraines made me dopier though!

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kcocyah@reddit

Had to come off topiramate as the side effects were awful! Not able to find words, stay on track in conversation which made work very hard! I’m now on candesartan which I’m hoping will help long term!

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zerumuna@reddit

I have to write absolutely everything down now and I can watch a film one night and the next day be adamant I’ve never watched it. My memory before was so good I have a law degree which is only acquired through being able to memorise loads! I’ve never heard of candesartan, I also have endo and a lot of the things I took before topiramate worsened the symptoms of that so I’m wary of changing!

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kcocyah@reddit

Candesartan is the 5th preventative I’ve tried and so far I’ve not felt any side effects as bad as before. Topiramate never again though and I had to dose up a few times so it took 6 weeks to taper off

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beanbagpsychologist@reddit

Topiramate was absolutely horrific for me. Nearly blew up my life, complete personality change. I'm not saying don't try it but I rarely have any medication side effects and took for granted I'd be fine. Be super vigilant and check in with people who know you well who can play back any changes they see.

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pm_me_your_amphibian@reddit

Right. I get mine from a… grey… source as I am a healthy weight but holy shit it’s changed my life in terms of chronic pain.

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Western-Victorys@reddit

I’ve stopped as it’s never really worked for me, shame.

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juGGaKNot4@reddit

I will move to grey market retatrutide faster than planned I have 3 15mg pens right now, paid 145 each. Same grey reta is 20 + testing ~50 overall so 3 times cheaper

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MarioGeeUK@reddit

Unless you have diabetes there are waaaay simpler and healthier options for you but you are not ready for that convo 🤣

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Zealousideal-Habit82@reddit

Bigger dose pen and click count current dosage. Take full advantage of the golden dose too and it's not too bad. Great tool to work it out- https://www.vrgrowth.co.uk/mounjaro-clicks I take a 7.5mg dose from a 12.5mg pen (36 clicks) so a pen would give me 8 doses inc golden doses. If it were £200 for a 7.5mg pen official that's four doses so £50 a week, by using a bigger pen and being clever would get 8 doses and even if that one were to cost £250 as it was stronger but the weekly cost would be £31. I still probably save that on reduced food cost so even though the price increase is shocking on paper in the cold light of day it might not be that bad. Fortunately I have enough for 15 more doses and I should be done in the next 8 weeks anyway as been on it since March and I'm getting closer to the end.

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nebber@reddit

How do you get the additional needle for the golden dose?

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munkimatt@reddit

Loads of legit medical supply sites. Just Google mounjaro pen needles and you'll get a bunch of options.

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UndulatingUnderpants@reddit

Amazon!

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Zealousideal-Habit82@reddit

Chemist. Pharmacy, online loads of places.

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WhaleMeatFantasy@reddit

Can you explain that simply?

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ettabriest@reddit

Bigger concentration pen so you need less if you take a smaller dose. I think essentially it lasts longer. So a 12.5 mg pen can be used to give 7.5 or 5mg dose with fewer clicks and lasts longer (I think !)

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WhaleMeatFantasy@reddit

I didn’t realise you could only deliver part of the dose.

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Zealousideal-Habit82@reddit

A full dose is 60 clicks so if you have a 10mg pen and on,y want a 5mg dose, 30 clicks. Loads of charts online or use this excellent tool https://www.vrgrowth.co.uk/mounjaro-clicks

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UndulatingUnderpants@reddit

Yup just count the clicks and if the pen stops clicking and dispensing does you can draw the dose out with a needle and I that way, I did it when I was on it.

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Spinkhorn@reddit

You can also buy insulin syringes and extract the medicine using those. I only use this to get the fifth dose though (the pen often breaks if you try to get it that way). I am not recommending you try the partial dose thing as it is against manufacturer instructions (the pens are only rated for 30 days once open)

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BreqsCousin@reddit

Instead of getting a pen with 4 doses of the medicine they need, they're getting a higher strength pen and taking half a dose each week. They have a stock of pens, because they're still ordering one every month but not using them up.

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Spinkhorn@reddit

Worth noting that the pens only officially last a month once opened according to the manufacturer so you can get your fifth dose no issue (as the start of week five is day 29) but going beyond that is not tested so you are effectively taking an unlicensed untested drug after that point. And people should be very careful about promoting this online too in my opinion. It does seem that a lot of people are doing it this way and having seemingly no issues but I wouldn't risk it myself personally.

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Zealousideal-Habit82@reddit

Easiest is just watch this. https://youtu.be/ABrMIdiP7Y0?si=vi_fzaVF9i6erlG8

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CaveJohnson82@reddit

I'm tied in at £99 a month till January, by then I'm hoping I'll have been in maintenance for about 3 months. So I'm hoping that I won't need it. I can afford £99 a month. But much more than that I cannot. I'm also hoping that by then there's a maintenance tablet or something. But, I'm trying to not think about it. There's not much I can realistically do.

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MrSam52@reddit

It’s worked for me in the short time I’ve been on it, so I’ll probably pay to continue but will stop at 7.5mg and stay on that as long as possible. I could afford to stay with it all the way up to 15mg (at the supposed new prices) but that would mean at least another year of not buying my own place. Once I plateau at 7.5mg it’ll be a case of seeing what the prices they charge are for higher dowses with their discounts and either sticking on it or jumping over to wegovy instead. When I started I’d budgets £200 a pen (as I didn’t want to be switching every dose) so if it stays around there I’ll keep it up. Tbh the amount I spent on takeaways and snacks (including soft drinks and alcohol) was around £200 a month already (I know the pen is 4 weeks vs just over four weeks for most months) so as that’s dropped to near enough zero it’s been basically a net zero gain for me financially being on it.

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matomo23@reddit

How are you still buying sugary soft drinks in the UK though? There’s only Coca-Cola and Monster!

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scorpius69@reddit

Our pharmacy has agreed to sell my wife 2 extra pens of the 5mg at the current rate and keep them for her to pick up over the next couple of months as needed, so we are sorted until the end of October and if needed could probably drop to 2.5mg doses and be set fir 4 months

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LadyFinduillas@reddit (OP)

That's a good thing, nice that they are using a bit of common sense and attempting to be supportive. I hope by the time you/she has used up what you've paid for that there will be some kind of solution found and a way forward.

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2infinitiandblonde@reddit

Myself and a colleague who are both from semi-developed but far from third world countries where people have good quality of life and genuinely work hard were discussing this today. I think it’s a good thing. This is a prime example of a first world problem. People had an easy avenue to what they wanted without working hard for it, which is very first world behavior. Now it’s being taken away, and they know what it’s like to not be obese, maybe they’ll work hard for it. That’s what I hope anyway.

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UndulatingUnderpants@reddit

What a terrible take.

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budapest_budapest@reddit

I’ll probably just have to stop taking it. Luckily I’ve already lost over 8 stone using it so any additional loss was just a bonus really. I can afford the price increase but it’s not worth it for me now I’m at a weight I’m content at (but over my ideal BMI). It’s a bit short sighted really, as presumably many other customers are like me and planned to stay on a low dose long-term if not for life. I’ve been paying around £180 for it, so if they had only hiked it to the low £200s I’d probably have continued to pay. Instead, they’ll get £0 from me.

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Isgortio@reddit

>paying around £180 for it, so if they had only hiked it to the low £200s I’d probably have continued to pay. Instead, they’ll get £0 from me. This is almost every idiotic business decision, increase the costs so they get more profit but lose half of their customers in the process so it actually isn't that much of a profit increase, and sometimes end up being a loss.

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Cruickz@reddit

If they increase by 170%, and all the additional income will be profit as their costs aren't increasing, they could afford to lose more than half and still make more money than they were. Not smart enough to do the actual maths, but would love to see a breakdown.

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LadyFinduillas@reddit (OP)

That's a fantastic result, do you mind if I ask how long it has taken you to lose the weight?

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xYoshiKei@reddit

I’m so worried. Semaglutide (Wegovy) didn’t work for me. It caused my meds to not absorb properly and I became severely depressed and fatigued. The appetite suppression effect only worked for a few days in the first week. I was forced to stop taking it due to the effects on my mood anyway. I then tried Mounjaro and it’s done what so many people describe Wegovy doing for them. I had binge eating disorder but now the food noise is much reduced, appetite is no longer extremely large, and I don’t feel any effect on my mood or other meds at all. The only side effect I’ve had is sometimes fatigue the day after the injection. I’m managing to lose a significant amount of weight successfully so far. The problem is that I don’t have any money so my mum has been paying for it. I don’t know if she will pay for the increased price - if it’s really a lot more, I would feel bad asking for it anyway, even though Mounjaro has been helping me so much. I would’ve slowly killed myself before. I was already pre-diabetic and getting knee and foot problems due to weight. I think Eli Lilly are predatory and evil. This is also normal for our capitalist society. I guess my life will just end up getting a little bit worse, in one more way, yet again. Feeling very angry about this.

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LadyFinduillas@reddit (OP)

I do understand your frustration, it is very worrying and frustrating for a lot of people. I hope that you and your mum find a way between you one way or another to figure something out and that you continue to get the benefits and the positivity that it's bringing you. Good luck. :-)

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Old_Steak_1043@reddit

Look into Retatrutide, Mounjaro will be largely obsolete soon so they're squeezing all the juice from it while they can

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UndulatingUnderpants@reddit

Apparently it won't be out in the UK till at least 2027, is it available from other countries?

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craig-charles-mum@reddit

Anyone else feel there may be a looming crisis down the road when they discover these drugs are carcinogenic?

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Priscaney@reddit

No. Tbh I think the opposite will be found. That they help prevent many cancers.

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chief_bustice@reddit

GLP-1s have been used for years in diabetes. If this was likely, we'd already know.

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Several-Support2201@reddit

I was just thinking this. I think the more immediate outcome will be severe illness or death because people are accessing semi-legal methods to pitches the drugs from the internet/dealers. Which some people on this thread are advocating!

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lauzzy@reddit

I am wondering what effect this will have on the NHS? I am prescribed it for Diabetes and it’s working wonders, and I get zero side effects from it. I hope they won’t change me to something else because of the cost :(

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LadyFinduillas@reddit (OP)

As far as I can recall from the articles I've read, the company has been in negotiations with the NHS and the price for the NHS will remain the same.

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lauzzy@reddit

This is a huge relief! It’s completely changed my life since I’ve been taking it and my diabetes is so well controlled now

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LadyFinduillas@reddit (OP)

I have to say that I do understand why the NHS is prioritising people with diabetes when it comes to prescribing this drug. The original purpose of the drug was to treat diabetes and so that is of course for what it should be used. On the other hand, it is frustrating that the NHS is being put in the position of having to be reactive rather than proactive when it comes to things like this. I mean that people who are overweight are at risk of type two diabetes which could well mean that they are given the drug to help them, but if they've been given it before they got the condition, There's a good chance that they may not develop the condition and the NHS would then save money on their care in other areas. Again just to be clear, I'm not judging anyone for having a condition like diabetes, it must be a very daunting and frustrating condition with which to live, I just wish (somewhat idealistically I know) that the system was in a better position to be able to put into place preventative measures for those people whom it would benefit.

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No_Replacement_9629@reddit

It really outrageous, plenty of people who are benefiting tremendously will be forced to cease taking it. I'm an individual who has benefited tremendously from Wegovy, it's really been transformational to my health. I could expand upon this further, but it's fair to say that the truth is that working class people are more likely to be obese and more likely to be suffering adverse consequences from said obesity: it was probably just about feasible now, but there can't be working class people able to afford these high prices. Do we want to accentuate these disparities further, do we want a society in which only the poor are fat? Surely that'll not accentuate the impossible levels of classism within the UK. We have to wrangle with a new reality which is that obesity is reliably curable, and given expected advances it strikes me as unlikely that the Britain of 2045 will be facing anything like the figures we're seeing today, and we'll all be better off for it.

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BronnOP@reddit

Let this be a lesson to everyone in the UK to be honest. In recent years, with the NHS being underfunded for decades, I’ve heard people say “well at least if I pay for health care I’ll be looked after” No. No you won’t. They’ll increases prices for elective medications, and for life critical medications and they’ll increase the price YEARLY. You’ll be a consumer not a patient. Insurance won’t save you either, they’ll nickel and dime you any chance they get and deem certain things a hospital gave you as “non essential” and make you pay for it.

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matomo23@reddit

We know all this mate.

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BronnOP@reddit

Clearly not, given the sentiment.

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granchuchu@reddit

Just switch to peptides. Can get 10 months worth of vials for a price of one pen

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orange_assburger@reddit

MJ has been lifechanging for me. I wasn't even severely obese, I just was eating the wrong foods in thr wrong volume and had poor disordered habits (secret eating being one) I have a much better relationship with food in general and understanding what my body needs. Im lucky that this change is coming at a time i was going into to maintenance having almost met my goal, so I will titrated down and see how I get on. MJ is not diet medication its Food addiction medication and gave me thr tools to understand my body safely. I really think as widespread as its usage is now it should be normalised and un demonised. People giving it a bad rep are people continuing to take it when they have severe reactions "im throwing up everyday/cant keep food down/blinding headaches" if you are getting these symptoms it's not the drug for you, just like if paracetamol made you ill.

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WhoLets1968@reddit

If you spend so much on the jab but used that to pay for better quality healthy food and took exercise, would you not be healthier, mentally and physically, instead of relying on a magic jab to lose weight I'm not saying this as one who doesn't know the struggles...we live in a calorie rich world which is oh so easy to access...so the discipline to resist and eat better, less calorie rich ( none processed food) isn't easy but resorting to a jab can't be healthy long term If one is chronically obese and needs urgent weight loss then that's different, but it seems too easy for people to jump on the "I'll take a pill/jab"

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OffMyDave@reddit

Then no rich people would be fat...

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WhoLets1968@reddit

It's about choice..which in a world of calorie rich, readily available food, it's hard Not saying , as one who is carrying excess weight, it's easy...we are all faced with the challenge of eating not only healthy but in moderation But hey, let's not bother cos I can take a jab and it'll be ok Play that out to an nth degree, think about how it plays out not only to the individual but the societal impact. These meds have been around for a very short term, that the long term impact both to individuals and society is yet to be understood. Perhaps better to play the long (and much harder) game of eating less, healthier and more exercise But if that was easy, these meds wouldn't sell so....

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Priscaney@reddit

You are technically correct, but you are also massively over-simplifying a vastly complex health issue.

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confuzzledfather@reddit

I'll buy it via Discord run group buys direct from China.

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bababababoos@reddit

Ooh, teach me please! I've never used Discord. What do I need to do after I sign up?

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ettabriest@reddit

Erm there have been deaths from stuff from China. I’m not exaggerating.

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confuzzledfather@reddit

Yep, important to know what you are injecting.

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bababababoos@reddit

Oh. Maybe not then 🤦‍♀️

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NoEffortWentIntoThis@reddit

I'm frustrated that they're planning to increase the price of this. I've asked my diabetes clinician for a good year to increase this beyond the 5mg baseline dose as I am overweight, but they've been unable to because of the cost. I'm not in a position to buy this myself, so I do wonder whether my diabetes team will have to move me on to something else again...

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VolcanicBear@reddit

> Why couldn't theirs have been made cheaper Because that's not how being a greedy capitalist fuck works. Very few "healthcare" things in America are related to healthcare, they are related almost purely to profit. So why charge less for something when they've proven their populace will pay for it. That would mean less profit and unhappy shareholders.

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joao_uk@reddit

I partly agree, but if they can’t make money off existing drugs, who funds the research into new drugs? Do you want to pay more tax to cover this via public funding?

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NondescriptHaggard@reddit

You’ve been downvoted for no reason - you’re 100% correct. All new drugs have a certain number of years of being under patent before going generic, in order to recoup R&D costs and make a profit. Pretty sure Mounjaro goes generic in the UK in like 2031 or something, so it’s not a huge amount of time. As you say, if private medical companies don’t make profit on drugs, they won’t create them.

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DaVirus@reddit

Actually this is a production issue. They literally can't output enough to meet demand. It's simple economics. Unless you are OK with stealing value, this is absolutely correct.

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WoolyCrafter@reddit

Mounjaro has never suffered production issues. You're thinking of semaglutide branded as Ozempic.

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Tuarangi@reddit

It's in no small part due to the chump in the Whitehouse who has pressured the firms to raise prices elsewhere instead of say tackling the massive problem in the US of firms profiteering from people's health

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MGBGTLE@reddit

They'll switch to the cheaper alternatives and put additional strain on the supply lines for diabetics who it was originally designed for.

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shaun056@reddit

Wtf is it?

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testfjfj@reddit

Weight loss injection

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SusieC0161@reddit

Some people are using their weight to get the drug, but primarily taking it for something else, which it works for but isn’t licensed for. I have lipoedem, a painful condition causing inflammation to my legs. It helps reduce my inflammation and heaviness to my legs. It’s bloody brilliant. It’s like a miracle I’ve been looking for for 10 years. It’s preventing migraines, stabilising female hormone conditions such as PCOS, calming rheumatoid and oestearthritis, improving mental health, it helps stops habits people do as a “reward” - eat, drink alcohol, gamble - so many benefits. This is such a massive setback.

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katie-kaboom@reddit

I'll be switching to Wegovy, which works just as well for me. I've no need to pad a company's profits or pander to their misinformation for no good reason.

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SusieC0161@reddit

I’m hoping the pharmacies will absorb some of the cost. I’m on 10mg and have virtually no appetite so am reducing back to 7.5mg. I’m hoping I’ll find a way to stockpile before the end of the month.

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mordhoshogh@reddit

Spend it all on cakes

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JangleSauce@reddit

>why couldn't theirs have been made cheaper rather than making ours more expensive Have you been on this planet long? Just a flying visit, perhaps?

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blueberryjamjamjam@reddit

My plan was to lose slowly and then stay on MJ for... idk, to the end of my days? Now my plan is to lose my last 8 kg asap, then carefully titrate down and stop it for good. And I hope greedy idiots will lose loyal long-time customers and in 4-5-6 years this type of drugs will be made in every country independently like paracetamol.

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PaulaDeen21@reddit

Not here to judge… but the NHS price isn’t changing according to the article I just read? So those that have it professionally prescribed are just fine. Surely if you’re self prescribing, isn’t this a sign to lose weight in a healthier more natural way? Getting hooked on this feels very American, just getting sucked into paying for drugs that you likely don’t need.

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Nice_Back_9977@reddit

NHS weight management is messed up. They would happily slice up and remove a huge chunk of my stomach to 'help' me lose weight, but 'i don't meet the criteria for this medication which is both more effective and massively safer.

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PaulaDeen21@reddit

But as an alternative to both… dieting and exercise? I know it’s not easy, but it works, has always worked, and creates healthy habits that last a lifetime.

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ettabriest@reddit

So no one yo yo diets then ? Nearly everyone I know is on a diet. It clearly doesn’t work all the time.

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PaulaDeen21@reddit

Diet. Exercise. And the hardest bit, will power. But it works, there is no debate about it. It’s about not choosing an alternative.

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beanbagpsychologist@reddit

I'm happy for you that you have so clearly never experienced the struggle these people are describing.

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ettabriest@reddit

Let’s bet you’re jealous that lazy fatties are no longer fat. That takes away so many people’s sense of superiority. over other people. Not everyone is a human mountain of 30 stone sat on a huge bariatric bed gorging themselves.

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Nice_Back_9977@reddit

Mate, I started dieting when I was 12, all it got me was decades of an eating disorder. Diets are unhealthy and they only work long term in less than 5% of cases. When they don't lead to damaging disordered eating they generally lead to weight cycling which is terrible for the body, worse than just being fat. Nobody should be dieting, ever.

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catjellycat@reddit

It’s not being ‘hooked’ on it as such. It is not, as suggested in this thread, not understanding the calorie deficit thing. If it was all simply not understanding, there’d be no fat doctors or professors. What mounjaro does is take away that ‘what will I have for lunch?’ thought. That “I’m sad, chocolate makes me feel better” thought. The “I better clear my plate” thought. I’ve lost weight before and it was really really fucking hard. Losing weight on mounjaro is just hard. You still have to eat in a deficit. You still have to cardio exercise for heart health. You still have to weight train for muscular strength. What you don’t have to do is spend all day fighting the voice going “go on, you can have a cake today because you lost 2lb last week. One cake will be fine. You’re not an idiot, you can have one cake” because, ime, the jab silences that voice for you. There’s no urge for cake. If someone offers you a cake, you still have to turn it down. But you’re not silently raging all time that others can eat cake and you can’t.

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williamshatnersbeast@reddit

So, it’s willpower in a jab then? I have to deal with what I seriously consider to be an eating addiction that has been with me since my late teens. I have to turn stuff down that I’d prefer to eat on a daily basis. But that’s fine because I shouldn’t be eating cake every fucking day, we weren’t built to do that. And it’s tough but it’s doable. And having lost a lot of weight in the past, it’s about making the lifestyle change and mentally committing to it. The jab isn’t changing how you see and interact with food is basically what you’re saying. You still want to eat it but the craving is suppressed so you’re not dealing with the root cause. And then when price hikes happen and people can’t afford it they just go back to the same bad habits. People need to take responsibility for themselves and actually address what is going on, rather than seeking a ‘quick fix’ that means they’re actually taking medication - potentially for life. That’s not a good place to be. We should use medication when absolutely necessary but for most on these jabs it’s not, it’s a means to mask their failure to address an unhealthy lifestyle and their inability to deal with it.

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ettabriest@reddit

The first dose my partner had made him incredibly focussed. He said it was weird. He now does feel hungry and has to use willpower to resist food, especially by the end of the week. Lost loads at first but now it’s slow and steady. It really isn’t a walk in the park. What’s odd is that he says he struggles to chose food. He can’t eat unhealthy food although tbh for him it was more volume rather than junk food.

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PaulaDeen21@reddit

Thank you for actually replying and giving me your side of it. I guess then, but if you’re using a drug to suppress those feelings of lust for food you’re trying to avoid, are you not then ‘hooked’ in a sense to always remain on it to you keep these feelings at bay? And then at the mercy of future price hikes etc.

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marquis_de_ersatz@reddit

It's stupid that the NHS will only prescribe *after* you have reached the point of greatly damaging your long term health with diabetes, heart disease, high cholesterol etc.. As usual, it would be better for patients and the health service if we could do a little preventative medicine and stop people getting to that point.

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infieldcookie@reddit

The NHS only prescribes in certain scenarios right now. The NHS wants you to have multiple other health conditions to even be considered. Health conditions I’m trying to avoid by losing weight before it’s too late. I wasn’t always overweight. Lifestyle changes (not being able to go to the gym consistently and relying more on convenience foods during covid were the main thing). I’ve been trying for years to lose weight. The “issue” is that when I add more exercise into my day, I become significantly hungrier and then overeat again without realising. I’m also a short woman so my calorie requirements are lower than average. The food noise in my head literally wouldn’t stop until I started taking the drug. I literally have no desire to eat any sweet foods anymore, if I want a treat dinner I can eat two slices of pizza and feel full. I mostly want to eat fruit and veg now. I’m not going to be on the drug forever but I really can’t explain how much of a difference it’s made to my life. If losing weight was easy you’d barely have any fat people.

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TheGorillasChoice@reddit

Mounjaro is meant to help with 'food noise', which is the name given to the recurring thoughts about food and eating after spending so long with unhealthy eating habits/obese. They say 9/10 overweight and obese people experience food noise, so this is something that could actually make a difference in quick terms, and the price hike could, according to research, put the NHS further back than it needs to be.

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PaulaDeen21@reddit

To be fair if anyone that they could rely an American Pharmaceutical company not raise their prices then that’s totally on them.

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oddsock87@reddit

100%. It’s infuriating how many people don’t understand the calories bit.

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sparklybeast@reddit

It's not a lack of understanding but a difficulty in restricting eating to that amount. Fat people aren't thick (well, some are but then so are some thin people). We know we should be eating lettuce and chicken and that we shouldn't be eating cheese and bread and definitely shouldn't be snacking between meals. But having the willpower to only ever make the right choice is fucking difficult, partially due though due to food noise. The weight loss drugs take away that food noise meaning people aren't thinking about what and when they can next eat every single second of the day. So much less willpower is needed to restrict calories. If you only have to make the healthy choice three times a day at meal times, and you haven't been fighting the urge to eat for hour upon hour, 'calories in/calories out' becomes easier.

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PaulaDeen21@reddit

I get the impression they just want a shortcut, and apparently that now costs 170% more than it used to. Feels like a message there…

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JennyW93@reddit

It’s not available in my NHS health board. I started it privately because my NHS gp asked me to, saying he’d take over prescribing as soon as it’s available through our health board because I more than met the criteria. The health board still hasn’t approved it. I’ve never heard of self-prescribing it. I get it through a private GP. What is self-prescribing?

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PaulaDeen21@reddit

By self prescribing I guess I mean people just buying it privately. Which appears to be who is affected by this price hike.

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JennyW93@reddit

The NHS trust has been in special measures for a decade, mostly because of financial misconduct. So yes, it’s a scary sign that my health board is massively inept at budgeting.

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Chris-TT@reddit

Wait for someone to screw the system..

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Cliffe419@reddit

Medicine in America isn’t about health. They’ll profit off everything. Look how quickly we got a ‘cure’ to Covid.

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IronSkywalker@reddit

Fortunately I'm not too far from my goal weight now, so I'll probably buy a 15mg pen and use it to do 5mg maintenance doses while I get on top of budget stuff

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FelisCantabrigiensis@reddit

I expect there will be some news about Wegovy pricing and availability and it may be news you do not like.

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DigiNaughty@reddit

They're a Danish company, not a USA one, so they don't have to capitulate to bullshit yankee fucking doodle demands.

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Groovy66@reddit

Sure but I fully expect them to raise the price to a bit cheaper than Mounjaro. It’s increased profit and more sales so a win for everyone except the consumer. Capitalism working at optimum

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essjay2009@reddit

They will if they want access to the massive US market with larger margins than anywhere else on earth.

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NotTreeFiddy@reddit

Unless they want access to that larger wealthier market of course...

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Iamtir3dtoday@reddit

I have stockpiled. No shame in it. Bought four pens that should be fine as they last about 5.5 months. After that I'll come off of it. I can't afford the absolutely massive prices but it's to be expected with private healthcare tbh.

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lysergic101@reddit

Is it not cheaper just to eat less junk food and more salad? The women of yesteryears would do speed to curb the cravings, far cheaper and they got a lot more housework done.

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UnexpectedRanting@reddit

Black Market Manjauro has been about £20 a go so imagine lots of people will be purchasing from vendors when the price soars. (Obviously they’ll likely account for the increase but profits profit!)

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btec_barry@reddit

Will push more people towards the grey market, 100mg is approx £100.

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delightful_caprese@reddit

Grey market

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Sure-Junket-6110@reddit

Banking on the NHS paying the fee to offset the rise

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ubiquitous_uk@reddit

The NHS cost price is staying the same, its only increasing to private providers.

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Sure-Junket-6110@reddit

Maybe for you

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Much_Fish_9794@reddit

I just reordered through my doctor today, same price. He said they’re looking to absorb as much as they can going forward, likely a small bump

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ChickenTikkaMasalla_@reddit

Maybe they should stop being lazy and just stuff less food in their fat mouths.

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ukbot-nicolabot@reddit

A top level comment (one that is not a reply) should be a good faith and genuine attempt to answer the question

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TSC-99@reddit

I’m nearing the end of my Mounjaro journey thankfully. I may consider Wegovy if I need more help.

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Discopathy@reddit

A lot of people aren't going to like this comment, but the answer is the Dark Web. The legal guys are milking this fad beyond belief. It turns out that the illegal dealers are forced to compete with each other with far more realistic profit margins (like 20-40% I'm guessing, instead of the 800% plus that the cunts advertising on Facebook are making). We pay about about £15-25/month depending on dosage. Do not reply or DM me asking how to do this.

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Dangerous_Section346@reddit

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RiseUpAndGetOut@reddit

Honestly i think it's a mistake to believe that the price hike has anything to do with US pricing. They've hiked the price because they think that they can boost revenue and profitability by selling at a higher price. The affordability to you alone means nothing in the decision. It's a purely commercial decision made looking at the population as a whole.

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Glittering-Water495@reddit

Like any drug cartel, sell low, corner the market, increase price, ???, profit.

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RiseUpAndGetOut@reddit

Yep, exactly.

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Glittering-Water495@reddit

It's funny that Breaking Bad was almost a documentary. And even funnier that speed/meth were the OG quick weight loss drug until a few years later they realised maybe a diet of speed for weight loss and diazepam for the comedown wasn't the greatest idea (god I would have loved to have been a housewife back then). Anyway, much like with vaping I see this backfiring in a few years time when the real long term health effects of multiple millions of people become apparent. And people were worried about the Covid jab

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RiseUpAndGetOut@reddit

>Anyway, much like with vaping I see this backfiring in a few years time when the real long term health effects of multiple millions of people become apparent. That's where the NHS have got it right: they're only prescribing for cases where any long term effects of the drug are the lesser of the evils. I'd question why it's allowed for private purchase though.

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Glittering-Water495@reddit

And again much like the dodgy botox dealers, people will be buying it from unscrupulous people who dgaf about their health. "Here, inject this in your ass, dunno what it is but it might make you thinner" "Okay!!"

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ettabriest@reddit

Or take double the dose cos you missed the last one. Seen that in real life as a HCP.

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Amanensia@reddit

I understand the pain for people who are benefitting hugely from Mounjaro but I'm not sure personally I would criticise Eli Lilly too much. It is enormously expensive to bring drugs to market and there is a limited amount of patent time to recoup those development costs and make a worthwhile profit - without which, why would anyone bother to commercially research new drugs in the first place.

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BreqsCousin@reddit

I will Wait And See. The announcement is about the wholesale price, I am not buying it wholesale. Providers will likely have the chance to negotiate. I'll wait and see what my provider says the cost to me will be, before making any decisions.

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MonitorJunior3332@reddit

Don’t most people take it through the NHS?

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budapest_budapest@reddit

No. Literally barely anyone gets it on the NHS. The criteria are incredibly strict even if your BMI is incredibly high.

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Dramatic-Bad-616@reddit

I'll do push ups and squats

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FactorVerborum@reddit

Mounjaro is for weight loss not for muscle building.

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Crafty-Strength1626@reddit

Just eat less and do more exercise

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Ill-Basil2863@reddit

Funny they aren't complaining about the cost of other things such as insulin.

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AnonymousTimewaster@reddit

I'll probably go on Wegovy if it's ends up being more than £200. I can't possibly justify spending more than that even for my health.

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spreadlovebekind@reddit

Sadly the USA do make alot of money from the medical industry and its unfortuante that they have been exploited so, but I feel like I will most probably have to make a switch to something else cause the GLP-1 has really helped me and I am only on my first pen, about to go up to 5mg on monday and start my second pen and have like another 6stone I want to lose.

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Priscaney@reddit

I just bought two more 7.5mg pens from my supplier (the max they'd allow me to buy) and realised it's enough to get me to my goal weight if I lose 2 lbs a week. I've been losing 1lb - 1.5mb per week since I started taking Mounjaro in March so I could perhaps hit that 2lb if I just work out some more. Really though I was hoping to stay on this med for life, so I'm going to see how much the 2.5mg pens will actually cost once the price hike sets in. I think the lower doses will not see as huge a price increase as the higher doses. I'm 38 and I've struggled with eating for my entire life - I grew up with food neglect, then had Anorexia Nervosa in my teens, and then was so poor that my weight plummeted to bmi 16 yet again, and then anti-depressants leaving me feeling like an abyss of endless hunger, and extreme weight gain.. I fucking *deserve* to feel normal and have a healthy relationship with food, and Mounjaro has done all of that and more. I've just been realising since the news dropped that I would pay a LOT of money for this because it's so worth it for my health.

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Suspicious_Guest2067@reddit

What’s this?! I’ve not heard about what you’re all talking about 😬🧐 living under a rock maybe!!

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ddmf@reddit

I've just ordered some 10mg a couple of weeks earlier so I'll have 9 more weeks and have to come off it because even though £208 is bad enough I can't afford £400+

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Historical_Project86@reddit

I think the clinics will maybe get down to £300 for 12.5mg, and we're just going to have to suck it up. My wife may try going down to 10mg which could save £50-£70.

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SportTawk@reddit

I'll just eat less

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Violet351@reddit

I know someone doing it and they have already had an email about swapping to a cheaper alternative

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robhaswell@reddit

If cost is an issue then realistically Wegovy will be a fine alternative, especially if you are already on the journey. After a couple of months your habits and appetite fundamentally change so you should be able to keep losing weight even though Weygovy is slightly less effective. For me I'll probably try and grab as much supply as I can, then I'll try spin a sob story to my GP to see if they can pick up my prescription, otherwise I'll probably either stay or switch depending on what the actual cost increase is. My provider is talking about 25% which would be manageable.

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NevilleLurcher@reddit

To be eligible for treatment on the NHS you need to have 4 of a list of 5 comorbidities. It's a very tight criteria.

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robhaswell@reddit

Damn.

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oddsock87@reddit

Spin a sob story.. for fuck sake.. it’s people like you that’s crippling the country.. have some self fucking discipline and lose weight by exercising and eating right instead of burdening the NHS with shit you don’t need.

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scrotalsac69@reddit

Unfortunately they take the beurre that if it isn't on the nhs and prescribed, then it is a choice not a medical necessity. So you will have to pay what they ask. NHS pricing is unaffected

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falkorluckdrago@reddit

Because América is pro business not pro their people. Is such a greedy move. They could have lower down prices all over the world and still make a decent profit. I will try NHS, otherwise change to wegovy, I barely can afford prices now, would not be able to buy even one pen, sadly.

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