Like how anon says, poor gets meaningless shit while rich get huge actual benefits.
And since no fascist movement can rule for decades in the end country go back to liberalism, bigotry will be ashamed later even for harder yet the rich will continue all the things they got via solidarist corporatism.
There is a case to be made of communism as an idea would look like. In reality, it would obviously never work but as an idea, it has merit. You could write fan fiction with a functional communist society, for example.
Like sure buddy the state will just dissolve and everyone will live happily ever after.
If you have a post scarcity society that is self sufficient, a great deal of theft becomes pointless, as does murder. The 'state' definition by marx is one class enforcing its will over others. It doesn't mean a local group couldnt deal with the odd case of zero motive murder from psychopathic tendency
If you have a post scarcity society that is self sufficient, a great deal of theft becomes pointless, as does murder.
Must be why most gang and mafia members go straight once they've saved up enough money and don't spend it on expensive cars, jewelry, drugs, and women, what with all that rational, long-term thinking they're doing.
Yea and everything in between is also sides of the same coin. Literally just a coin. Like communism and fashion it's literally just Identity politics of coin. Which is the best out of those three, compared to racism and coin-phobia since coin was around since 6000 bc š¤
š£ļøš£ļø horse shoe theory also means there is big indistinguishable convergence in the middle of the horseshoe š£ļøš£ļø thats where you 𫵠are, mostly likely, especially if you American.
Mate, billionaire's own the industries and make them work only for raising net worth quarterly. Every company pays billions to needless ai functions for quarterly stocks rise, fire people end of the year to show lower operation costs.
Socialists wants those factories work for it's actual purpose, production for the population.Ā
Lol, so your reasoning to tax them is "just cuz"? Okay. I won't vote for your policy until I know exactly what where it is that you're trying to start. "Seething because they have more and I don't" is not a valid reason, in my eyes.
I don't even want it or need it. Give it to the poorest 10% or use it to fund medical research or build infrastructure or on education I don't give a fuck I just think it could be put to better use than billionaires just hoarding money
Not true, Google 'ostalgie'. In short it's a feeling that previous East Berliners have when they are nostalgic for the commie days. Communism works well for people with no drive or real ability - a massive safety net for people who struggle in systems where ability and achievement are rewarded.
These are the same guys just waiting their turn to end up like that american farm that went to russia because of woke. Died in the dirt for nothing because of propaganda and poor critical thinking. It's far easier to manipulate stupid.
Because people are stressed about changeĀ about the absurdity of their current governments and how they dont even hide how much they are ripping off their own citizens
That is why people get radicalized to either side of the political spectrum
Its wild to me how much USA conservatives were fighting the mask and vaccine mandates as denying them freedom, and then the government sends in the troops and starts issuing military curfews in cities and conservatives are like:
"Yay wahoo our freedom is safe now!"
Like, wtf my dudes this is literally what every conspiracy theorist was afraid that Obama was foing to do but its real now and its cool all of a sudden?
What's happening in DC is unfortunate, but also the most realistic solution for addressing the rampant crime since the municipal government has no interest in enforcing the law. Had DC's leaders kept their shit together, this would not have been necessary.
So why doesnt the National Guard deploy to Memphis TN, the city with some of the worst crime rates in the US, and has been the worst for a long time?
This isnt about crime, this is about control, and if Biden did this to DC then conservatives would have been frothing at the mouth, but i guess rules dont apply when "their guy" is in charge.
Maybe he should send the NG to Memphis too, but DC specifically is in the domain of federal control and thus clearly an appropriate place to use federal resources. The DC municipal government doesn't even intrinsically have sovereignty beyond what the federal government gives it; it is literally in the Constitution that DC is under the exclusive jurisdiction of the government, and the current city government is still subject to federal control under the law which allowed its creation.
"Biden asked me to wear a MASK, a damn MASK to protect against a worldwide pandemic! My freedoms are gone! AMERICA IS DOOMED! Democraps are taking over!"
Conservatives in 2025:
"Im so thankful that the military is establishing checkpoints in my city and checking my identification papers regularly tee hee, it makes me feel so warm and safe having government curfews. I love freedom!"
That's an interesting bit of news that I haven't seen before, mind providing an article so I can read more about the checkpoints and identification papers? As for the curfew, it's specifically a curfew for minors, which is the kind of thing that has tons of historical precedent.
How do you think curfews work? The government has to put up checkpoints and have agents partol the entire city constantly. Even if it is just for minors, how do you verify if someone is a minor or not? By checking ID cards.
So yes, currently the National Guard, ICE, and MPD are patroling everywhere in DC, setting up checkpoints, and checking everyones ID.Ā
And conservatives like you are claiming it is right, and good, and just, that we have essentially occipied our own cities with military force during peacetime.Ā
Everything conservatives were afraid of Biden doing, the current administation has done, and they get cheering applause from the freedom loving americans for some damn reason.
The difference is that the Covid regulations had essentially no legal basis, whereas DC is a federal district per the Constitution and has no inherent right to a municipal government. Conservatives don't have a problem with using government power, in and of itself; it's just a question of whether the action falls within the scope of the authority outlined by the Constitution. If Biden did what Trump is doing now, I would have been confused at him taking street crime seriously but otherwise pleased, because DC is purely under federal jurisdiction.
Also, a different user higher up in this thread posted articles which debunk the whole checkpoint thing as having anything to do with curfews, so you can release your death grip on your pearls.
There IS a curfew, and there ARE military and ICE patrolling the streets. Clearly you think this is all okay though so im not going to change your mind by continuing to talk about this.
Even though conservative states and cities exist with worse crime rates than LA and DC those dont get targeted, this is so very clearly a political move with these national guard activations targeting specific places. Its not about crime, it never was, otherwise the national guard should have been activated in Louisiana, Oklahoma, Mississippi, and Alabama first if crime was the real motivator.Ā
Are Louisiana, Oklahoma, etc. either under direct federal control or actively interfering in enforcement of federal law? No, so their situations fall outside the scope of federal enforcement. I'm sure Trump would love to crack down on crime in those cities too, but it's not explicitly the federal government's business right now. At the end of the day, you're so conditioned to sympathize with petty thugs that you think any form of real law enforcement is fascism. You're the person who I actually was describing in my previous post about being a crime apologist; just another standard issue shitlib who doesn't have the balls to even conceive of someone else taking a stand and laying down the law, let alone take on the responsibility yourself.
Hey buddy, I saw your retort (if you call it that) in my notifs, but since you resorted to using the p-word it got shadowbanned and I can't read the entire thing.
Doesn't matter, I can exactly extrapolate what you said because NPCs don't have principles, they have marching orders. If you really had a valid point, then show me, because I'd be happy to know which parts of my arguments can be improved. Until then you're just another drone in the hivemind.
How am I wrong? Where exactly in my analysis of American civics am I justifying action beyond the existing bounds of federal power? I suspect your main problem with him cleaning up DC is that you're pro-criminal, as indicated by your comment history in this sub. You don't really give a fuck about constitutionality (I suspect you'll have trouble parsing that word), you just don't like his objectives; it all boils down to "orange man bad".
do you understand that those cities are overrun with third worlders who breed like rats? I would love to be like japan where the police aren't needed but politicians on both sides have flooded my country with pointless needy minorities so now we're stuck with the ugly choice of fascism until we're a normal country with borders again, or becoming brazil
if you don't want fascism, stop flooding my country with fucking squatemalans
A yearly-flu tier virus which isn't a threat to anyone healthy
Rampant crime nationally due to the left defunding the police and refusing to prosecute criminals
Means
Cloth mask mandates despite scientific proof they're ineffective, forced vaccinations with a half dozen experimental vaccines which barely worked, months-long international 24/7 curfew,
Police actually enforcing the law
Consequences
Massive inflation, thousands of small businesses bankrupted, 10 trillion in wealth transferred from middle/working class to the investor class, an entire generation of children mentally and socially effected,
Unknown thus far, hopefully less crime
I don't live in DC so I'm not clear on exactly what they're doing.
I looked up your claims:
There is no curfew for adults, only 16 and under and only in certain regions of the city. It effects very few people and zero adults.
I can only find reports on a single checkpoint being set up for a single night and allegedly it had nothing to do with the DC crackdown.
Whether the checkpoint was related to the crackdown or not, please be sane enough to recognize why calling a single checkpoint in a single city for a single night "fascism" is deceitful and not comparable to the pandemic.
You can only turn the DC crackdown into this awful authoritarian thing through distortion and hyperbole about what's happening.
During the pandemic people actually were curfewed in their homes for months to a year all throughout the US. That's not a distortion or hyperbole.
The difference in scale between these things means they aren't even comparable.
The fact is most people's lives aren't effected at all by the DC crackdown. They might complain more if their city was effected, we can't say for sure.
But what is certain is that victims of crime are tired of nothing being done because leftist DAs and leftist judges refuse to prosecute criminals effectively.
Conservatives are happy to hear someone is finally going to prosecute the crime the left has intentionally allowed to run rampant.
And don't quote me crime stats, never mind that we have proof DC was falsifying them, it doesn't matter how often crime is happening. What matters is that when it does happen it isn't prosecuted effectively.
we can discuss these issues and many more but all the pointless squatemalans, blacks, indians, asians and arabs flooding my country need to fuck off home first. no point in any other topics until this one crucial issue has been settled
sure. it's not just "cheap labor". it's that anyone with capital benefits when the value of labor goes down. the very rich benefit the most because their taxes don't noticeably increase. the people who benefit the least are the middle class because immigrants consume state and local resources like locusts jacking up the price of medical care by using emergency rooms as GP visits. They also increase the cost of law enforcement, and schooling since a lot of them take up resources meant for actual Americans with learning disabilities and squander them on ESL classes.
I get that the top 10k wealthiest people in the US benefit. And I get that all the needy brown people we're saddled with love the agreement. I don't understand why the rest of us need to go along with any of it.
Sure the rich started out as the only ones pushing for this but even bernie sanders, once stalwart of the American working family has surrendered. why? social justice. intersectionality. whatever other poison pill ideology turns normal working class white people against their own self interest.
The answer is simple: They're losers who desperately want to cling to any chance of "moving up" or being seen as a winner. For the right, it's the fact that they can't get laid that radicalizes them and for the left, it's the fact that they're all getting cucked.
Under fascism (I mean true fascism, not what left wingers today call fascism), the government structure would be a corporatist one. And I don't mean corporation, I mean corporatism. Like in Italy. The theory behind corporatism is that the state functions as a mediator between the classes, finding compromises between, for example, trade unions and factory owners. In practise this didn't work so well, and the elites were often favoured. But in theory they'd have less actual influence or power in a corporate structure, than in a democratic one. Because in a democratic structure they can simply use their money to buy elections, while making it appear as if they are free. While in a fascist, corporatist structure, when blatantly favoring the elites, like in fascist Italy, the people would immediately know they are being actively oppressed and disfavored, thus be disgruntled. A democratic structure enables them to excersice their power more covertly, than in a fascist corporate structure. Again, making it appear to be more free than it actually is. Which is why the claim, that billionaires are pro-fascism is false. They are pro-oligarchy/plutocracy. At least that's my theory.
HugePurpleNipples@reddit
Trump has a little something for everyone:
Rich people get control, tax breaks, the ability to show their dick to every child on the planet with 0 consequence and a legion of subservient poors.
Poor people get racism, religious zealotry a false sense of superiority, but no wall.
oni_no_onii-chan@reddit
Like how anon says, poor gets meaningless shit while rich get huge actual benefits.
And since no fascist movement can rule for decades in the end country go back to liberalism, bigotry will be ashamed later even for harder yet the rich will continue all the things they got via solidarist corporatism.
HugePurpleNipples@reddit
Here's hoping we survive to see the cycle through to the fun part.
Wild_Walrus_7983@reddit
Fascism and communism are two sides of the same coin: statism through identity politics
MyDogsNameIsSam@reddit
Inb4 some autistic low IQ Marxist says "but communism is when no state"
Like sure buddy the state will just dissolve and everyone will live happily ever after.
metsakutsa@reddit
There is a case to be made of communism as an idea would look like. In reality, it would obviously never work but as an idea, it has merit. You could write fan fiction with a functional communist society, for example.
philmarcracken@reddit
If you have a post scarcity society that is self sufficient, a great deal of theft becomes pointless, as does murder. The 'state' definition by marx is one class enforcing its will over others. It doesn't mean a local group couldnt deal with the odd case of zero motive murder from psychopathic tendency
PhillyTaco@reddit
Must be why most gang and mafia members go straight once they've saved up enough money and don't spend it on expensive cars, jewelry, drugs, and women, what with all that rational, long-term thinking they're doing.
BudgetThat2096@reddit
Wild_Walrus_7983@reddit
Philcherny@reddit
Yea and everything in between is also sides of the same coin. Literally just a coin. Like communism and fashion it's literally just Identity politics of coin. Which is the best out of those three, compared to racism and coin-phobia since coin was around since 6000 bc š¤
FormerlyWrangler@reddit
Coin phobic? Oy vey
Philcherny@reddit
Communism in coin-phobia. Where am I wrong, liberal?
Wild_Walrus_7983@reddit
You just said a whole bunch of nothing right there, but im here for it. š¤
Philcherny@reddit
š£ļøš£ļø horse shoe theory also means there is big indistinguishable convergence in the middle of the horseshoe š£ļøš£ļø thats where you 𫵠are, mostly likely, especially if you American.
Wild_Walrus_7983@reddit
Coming from someone that's the Dunning Kruger effect manifest in human form, I honestly couldn't care less lol. Goodluck with that big guy
Philcherny@reddit
Okay buddy horseshoe coin enthusiast guy
back_reggin@reddit
Yeah, but the difference is that my version is the good one and the other side are bad guys.
Holyrain101@reddit
What if we taxed billionaires out of existence?
Holyrain101@reddit
Why do you guys simp for billionaires
Just_Evening@reddit
Here's a simple exercise
Take the wealth of the top 100 wealthiest USA people and combine it
Divide that by the population of USA
You end up with 7-8k per person. Does this fix all of society's problems? I don't think it even gets close
oni_no_onii-chan@reddit
Mate, billionaire's own the industries and make them work only for raising net worth quarterly. Every company pays billions to needless ai functions for quarterly stocks rise, fire people end of the year to show lower operation costs.
Socialists wants those factories work for it's actual purpose, production for the population.Ā
Holyrain101@reddit
Why does taxing billionaires have to fix all of society's problems? No one change is going to fix everything, but we have to start somewhere.
Just_Evening@reddit
Lol, so your reasoning to tax them is "just cuz"? Okay. I won't vote for your policy until I know exactly what where it is that you're trying to start. "Seething because they have more and I don't" is not a valid reason, in my eyes.
Holyrain101@reddit
I don't even want it or need it. Give it to the poorest 10% or use it to fund medical research or build infrastructure or on education I don't give a fuck I just think it could be put to better use than billionaires just hoarding money
ZheWeasel@reddit
something something axe and trees or something
Pitiful_Special_8745@reddit
I would pay communist textbook people to sit down with a person who actually loved thorugh it.
Weirdly 100% of them hated it and revolted. In every country ever tried.
Must be a coincidence. Let's try this again.
chirstain@reddit
Great, now do it with the countries that tried fascism.
OldManChino@reddit
> cummunism bad therefore authoritarianism good
galaxy brain take right here fellas
anonymouslawgrad@reddit
Doesn't mean we should become fascist states, parliamentary democracy is a nice balance.
JACOB_WOLFRAM@reddit
Post-yugoslavia countries want Tito back lmao
back_reggin@reddit
Not true, Google 'ostalgie'. In short it's a feeling that previous East Berliners have when they are nostalgic for the commie days. Communism works well for people with no drive or real ability - a massive safety net for people who struggle in systems where ability and achievement are rewarded.
ZheWeasel@reddit
Same way fashist ideas get popular again since the people who actually lived through it are dead and the followers only see the good sides of it.
Grass is always greener on the other side or something
AnalysisParalysis85@reddit
That's antisemitic.
AnalysisParalysis85@reddit
When the axe came into the forest the trees said, at least the handle is one of us.
Fallingice2@reddit
These are the same guys just waiting their turn to end up like that american farm that went to russia because of woke. Died in the dirt for nothing because of propaganda and poor critical thinking. It's far easier to manipulate stupid.
BlondeTroppy@reddit
Because people are stressed about changeĀ about the absurdity of their current governments and how they dont even hide how much they are ripping off their own citizens
That is why people get radicalized to either side of the political spectrum
CreasingUnicorn@reddit
Its wild to me how much USA conservatives were fighting the mask and vaccine mandates as denying them freedom, and then the government sends in the troops and starts issuing military curfews in cities and conservatives are like:
"Yay wahoo our freedom is safe now!"
Like, wtf my dudes this is literally what every conspiracy theorist was afraid that Obama was foing to do but its real now and its cool all of a sudden?
Anonymous_Gamer939@reddit
What's happening in DC is unfortunate, but also the most realistic solution for addressing the rampant crime since the municipal government has no interest in enforcing the law. Had DC's leaders kept their shit together, this would not have been necessary.
CreasingUnicorn@reddit
So why doesnt the National Guard deploy to Memphis TN, the city with some of the worst crime rates in the US, and has been the worst for a long time?
This isnt about crime, this is about control, and if Biden did this to DC then conservatives would have been frothing at the mouth, but i guess rules dont apply when "their guy" is in charge.
Anonymous_Gamer939@reddit
Maybe he should send the NG to Memphis too, but DC specifically is in the domain of federal control and thus clearly an appropriate place to use federal resources. The DC municipal government doesn't even intrinsically have sovereignty beyond what the federal government gives it; it is literally in the Constitution that DC is under the exclusive jurisdiction of the government, and the current city government is still subject to federal control under the law which allowed its creation.
CreasingUnicorn@reddit
Conservatives in 2024:
"Biden asked me to wear a MASK, a damn MASK to protect against a worldwide pandemic! My freedoms are gone! AMERICA IS DOOMED! Democraps are taking over!"
Conservatives in 2025:
"Im so thankful that the military is establishing checkpoints in my city and checking my identification papers regularly tee hee, it makes me feel so warm and safe having government curfews. I love freedom!"
Anonymous_Gamer939@reddit
That's an interesting bit of news that I haven't seen before, mind providing an article so I can read more about the checkpoints and identification papers? As for the curfew, it's specifically a curfew for minors, which is the kind of thing that has tons of historical precedent.
CreasingUnicorn@reddit
https://nypost.com/2025/08/14/us-news/protesters-take-over-dc-streets-police-checkpoint/
https://www.newsweek.com/federal-agents-checkpoint-washington-dc-donald-trump-crackdown-2113287
How do you think curfews work? The government has to put up checkpoints and have agents partol the entire city constantly. Even if it is just for minors, how do you verify if someone is a minor or not? By checking ID cards.
So yes, currently the National Guard, ICE, and MPD are patroling everywhere in DC, setting up checkpoints, and checking everyones ID.Ā
And conservatives like you are claiming it is right, and good, and just, that we have essentially occipied our own cities with military force during peacetime.Ā
Everything conservatives were afraid of Biden doing, the current administation has done, and they get cheering applause from the freedom loving americans for some damn reason.
Anonymous_Gamer939@reddit
The difference is that the Covid regulations had essentially no legal basis, whereas DC is a federal district per the Constitution and has no inherent right to a municipal government. Conservatives don't have a problem with using government power, in and of itself; it's just a question of whether the action falls within the scope of the authority outlined by the Constitution. If Biden did what Trump is doing now, I would have been confused at him taking street crime seriously but otherwise pleased, because DC is purely under federal jurisdiction.
Anonymous_Gamer939@reddit
Also, a different user higher up in this thread posted articles which debunk the whole checkpoint thing as having anything to do with curfews, so you can release your death grip on your pearls.
CreasingUnicorn@reddit
There IS a curfew, and there ARE military and ICE patrolling the streets. Clearly you think this is all okay though so im not going to change your mind by continuing to talk about this.
Even though conservative states and cities exist with worse crime rates than LA and DC those dont get targeted, this is so very clearly a political move with these national guard activations targeting specific places. Its not about crime, it never was, otherwise the national guard should have been activated in Louisiana, Oklahoma, Mississippi, and Alabama first if crime was the real motivator.Ā
Anonymous_Gamer939@reddit
Are Louisiana, Oklahoma, etc. either under direct federal control or actively interfering in enforcement of federal law? No, so their situations fall outside the scope of federal enforcement. I'm sure Trump would love to crack down on crime in those cities too, but it's not explicitly the federal government's business right now. At the end of the day, you're so conditioned to sympathize with petty thugs that you think any form of real law enforcement is fascism. You're the person who I actually was describing in my previous post about being a crime apologist; just another standard issue shitlib who doesn't have the balls to even conceive of someone else taking a stand and laying down the law, let alone take on the responsibility yourself.
BudgetThat2096@reddit
This is some artisanal grass fed free range bootlicking right here. Glory to Netanyahu fellow Russian patriot o7
Anonymous_Gamer939@reddit
Hey buddy, I saw your retort (if you call it that) in my notifs, but since you resorted to using the p-word it got shadowbanned and I can't read the entire thing.
Doesn't matter, I can exactly extrapolate what you said because NPCs don't have principles, they have marching orders. If you really had a valid point, then show me, because I'd be happy to know which parts of my arguments can be improved. Until then you're just another drone in the hivemind.
BudgetThat2096@reddit
Next time you should ask your wife's bull to write your Reddit posts for you, it would be more engaging
TreeGuy521@reddit
U deleted 3 of your comments in the last hour are u going thru a psychotic episode rn buddy
Anonymous_Gamer939@reddit
Blah blah blah, more idiot noises. Not my fault that you're an illiterate who has no vocabulary beyond the borrowed slogans you repeat so diligently.
obiwankanblomi@reddit
That's a lot of name calling and exactly zero counterpoints
BudgetThat2096@reddit
I'm not here to make a point on Reddit I'm just here to make fun of goofy pedos like you on my lunch break. Happy Friday!
Anonymous_Gamer939@reddit
How am I wrong? Where exactly in my analysis of American civics am I justifying action beyond the existing bounds of federal power? I suspect your main problem with him cleaning up DC is that you're pro-criminal, as indicated by your comment history in this sub. You don't really give a fuck about constitutionality (I suspect you'll have trouble parsing that word), you just don't like his objectives; it all boils down to "orange man bad".
BudgetThat2096@reddit
I typed out a whole response but I'd rather just call you a pedophile supporter.
Anyway, where's those Epstein files boy?
Accomplished-Tap8598@reddit
do you understand that those cities are overrun with third worlders who breed like rats? I would love to be like japan where the police aren't needed but politicians on both sides have flooded my country with pointless needy minorities so now we're stuck with the ugly choice of fascism until we're a normal country with borders again, or becoming brazil
if you don't want fascism, stop flooding my country with fucking squatemalans
laserdicks@reddit
Why didn't you question the propaganda you're receiving when you saw this? No one else even knows those people exist
Initial_Return1687@reddit
I don't live in DC so I'm not clear on exactly what they're doing.
I looked up your claims:
Whether the checkpoint was related to the crackdown or not, please be sane enough to recognize why calling a single checkpoint in a single city for a single night "fascism" is deceitful and not comparable to the pandemic.
You can only turn the DC crackdown into this awful authoritarian thing through distortion and hyperbole about what's happening.
During the pandemic people actually were curfewed in their homes for months to a year all throughout the US. That's not a distortion or hyperbole.
The difference in scale between these things means they aren't even comparable. The fact is most people's lives aren't effected at all by the DC crackdown. They might complain more if their city was effected, we can't say for sure.
But what is certain is that victims of crime are tired of nothing being done because leftist DAs and leftist judges refuse to prosecute criminals effectively.
Conservatives are happy to hear someone is finally going to prosecute the crime the left has intentionally allowed to run rampant.
And don't quote me crime stats, never mind that we have proof DC was falsifying them, it doesn't matter how often crime is happening. What matters is that when it does happen it isn't prosecuted effectively.
SunderedValley@reddit
A lot can change in 15 years.
kryb@reddit
Covid and antivax weren't 17 years ago bro.
CreasingUnicorn@reddit
They were doing last year too
Iwubinvesting@reddit
Nah people got radicalized because they fell for memes on X or fox news or their favorite streamer. That's it. It's boredom.
Accomplished-Tap8598@reddit
>b-but billionaires
>b-but fascism
>b-but class warfare
we can discuss these issues and many more but all the pointless squatemalans, blacks, indians, asians and arabs flooding my country need to fuck off home first. no point in any other topics until this one crucial issue has been settled
HDYHT11@reddit
Buddy, who do you think is more interested in importing immigrants (cheap labour)??
Accomplished-Tap8598@reddit
sure. it's not just "cheap labor". it's that anyone with capital benefits when the value of labor goes down. the very rich benefit the most because their taxes don't noticeably increase. the people who benefit the least are the middle class because immigrants consume state and local resources like locusts jacking up the price of medical care by using emergency rooms as GP visits. They also increase the cost of law enforcement, and schooling since a lot of them take up resources meant for actual Americans with learning disabilities and squander them on ESL classes.
I get that the top 10k wealthiest people in the US benefit. And I get that all the needy brown people we're saddled with love the agreement. I don't understand why the rest of us need to go along with any of it.
Sure the rich started out as the only ones pushing for this but even bernie sanders, once stalwart of the American working family has surrendered. why? social justice. intersectionality. whatever other poison pill ideology turns normal working class white people against their own self interest.
nullv@reddit
They've got nothing else going on so being the boots of oppression in service of technofeudal lords is actually kind of an upgrade.
IpeeInclosets@reddit
Ain't nobody else offering anything to young and old CIS gendered white males.
They're privileged, they should check it.Ā Remember?
Billionaires and wealthy would prefer race wars to class wars..
nullv@reddit
Straight white men are literally the most oppressed class.
Gamer_chaddster_69@reddit
Very few people are actually fascist, they just get called it so often even they may start to believe it and just own it
Ill-Scheme@reddit
The answer is simple: They're losers who desperately want to cling to any chance of "moving up" or being seen as a winner. For the right, it's the fact that they can't get laid that radicalizes them and for the left, it's the fact that they're all getting cucked.
lefeuet_UA@reddit
The main support of fascism comes from petty bourgeoisie trying to assert itself against aristocracy, capital and those they deem lesser
HardcoreRemover1337@reddit
Blackhawk23@reddit
Richthofen?
Anluine@reddit
I feel like at least in the US middle class white guys would also be the losers if they didn't vote for republican.
Dsingis@reddit
Under fascism (I mean true fascism, not what left wingers today call fascism), the government structure would be a corporatist one. And I don't mean corporation, I mean corporatism. Like in Italy. The theory behind corporatism is that the state functions as a mediator between the classes, finding compromises between, for example, trade unions and factory owners. In practise this didn't work so well, and the elites were often favoured. But in theory they'd have less actual influence or power in a corporate structure, than in a democratic one. Because in a democratic structure they can simply use their money to buy elections, while making it appear as if they are free. While in a fascist, corporatist structure, when blatantly favoring the elites, like in fascist Italy, the people would immediately know they are being actively oppressed and disfavored, thus be disgruntled. A democratic structure enables them to excersice their power more covertly, than in a fascist corporate structure. Again, making it appear to be more free than it actually is. Which is why the claim, that billionaires are pro-fascism is false. They are pro-oligarchy/plutocracy. At least that's my theory.
Theroux721@reddit
Meanwhile every billionaire⢠inexplicably votes Democrat and spams mask selfies and rainbow flags
doctorfeelgod@reddit
Pic related
PUBLICHAIRFAN@reddit
Bla...Bla...Politics...Bla... I wanna fuck that demon girl
sofa_adviser@reddit
Many such cases
SunderedValley@reddit
People just want change and the more forbidden it is the more they want it.
cocoelgato@reddit
Hint hint... its not the guys, its the sad fugly grlls and the they/it cucks whonsupport fascism