“How do you do anything is how you do everything.”—T Harv Eker
Posted by ENVYisEVIL@reddit | Libertarian | View on Reddit | 15 comments
Posted by ENVYisEVIL@reddit | Libertarian | View on Reddit | 15 comments
scuba1960@reddit
https://www.supermarketnews.com/store-closings/city-owned-grocery-store-sun-fresh-market-in-kansas-city-shutters
I agree that it was time to close the store in Kansas City. The quote used by OP is garbage. It is an excuse to cherry pick confirmation biasing examples of failures to spread prejudice against a group. Food deserts are a real problem that need real solutions. In the case of Kansas City, an Aldi's and a Happy Foods opened within a mile of the store. It was time to close it. Perhaps we can suggest better solutions.
It appears that the store was in trouble during COVID and the supply chain shutdown; just like every other store in the U.S. The area was a food desert because of crime. Notice at the bottom of the page that there are other notable closings as well.
Hopefully being Libertarian does not mean that we abandon all empathy and kindness for our neighbors.
not_today_thank@reddit
Do you have the successful government run grocery store as a counterpoint?
Conscious_Ad3246@reddit
"Hopefully being Libertarian does not mean that we abandon all empathy and kindness for our neighbors." Be honest you know exactly why the store failed and whose fault it is next to the brilliant idea of letting the government/ non profit that is deeply connected to the government handle it. ... there is a big cultural problem that has to be fixed before anything else can be done. But that will never happen because people in power want to have it this way and many if not most of our "neighbors" in this situation dont want to get out either.
Hench999@reddit
Food deserts are caused by high crime. When all you get for theft under a certain amount of dollars is a slap on the wrist, and the court system is a revolving door for constant offenders. Don't be surprised when they keel stealing. When people keep stealing, don't be surprised when people do not want to open businesses in areas where the crime is its worst.
Every one of these food desert areas has a demand for food. Anytime there is a demand for something, if it is profitable, someone will supply that demand. You want to make it profitable? Punish criminals. Instead, this guy in NYC is talking about letting more of jail and now wants to waste money on government stores. It is like pouring gas on a raging fire in your home and then starting renovation repairs while the fire is still going.
somebody_odd@reddit
This store is not ima food desert. There are 2 grocery stores within a mile of this store.
natermer@reddit
What group is that? Kansas City city council?
I can find reviews of the Aldis near that area going back to 2010. Although for certain from at least 2014. They were recently shutdown for a month for renovations, but have since reopened.
And Happy Foods in the area appears to go back at least as far.
So those places existed prior to Kansas City trying to run their own store. And they seem to be doing OK despite COVID.
uh-uh.
somebody_odd@reddit
This was not in a food desert though. There are 2 other grocery stores within 1 mile of this store.
EarlBeforeSwine@reddit
Wait… so, who paid for the inventory of the store?
I’m guessing that it was paid for by taxes.
So, the government taxed its citizens, bought inventory for a store, and tried to sell the stuff it bought, with stolen money, back to the people it stole the money from, in the first place… then cries “theft!,” when the citizens take the things purchase with their money?
Is that about right?
Conscious_Ad3246@reddit
Technically yes but lets be honest the people who did the stealing are not rly known for paying much tax anyway and they did definitly not steal because of that "tax scam" going on as protest. I guess the same people stole that were reported for drug use, fights and public sex. ... Man i love the USA never adressing their problems and just keep on blaming socio economic differences instead of a cultural problem ... on the otherhand it seems the people in power want to keep it that way.
EarlBeforeSwine@reddit
Wait… so, who paid for the inventory of the store?
I’m guessing that it was paid for in taxes.
So, the government taxed its citizens, bought inventory for a store, and tried to sell the stuff it bought, with stolen money, back to the people it stole the money from, in the first place… then cries “theft!,” when the citizens take the things purchase with their money?
Is that about right?
wadewadewade777@reddit
But Mamdani can do it right in NYC.
libertarianinus@reddit
Coming to a New york city neighborhood next year. Then gone 2 years after that.
natermer@reddit
Found a nice article in the "Kansas City Star" talking about the shutdown.
This grocery store was a tenant of the Linwood Shopping Center in downtown Kansas City, MO. From what I gather this store was purchased from a struggling company Lipari Bros. (Lipari has since been purchased itself by a private equity firm) in 2014.
They then spent 17 million dollars revitalizing the store and opened in back up in 2018. In 2022 a non-profit Community Builders of Kansas City (CBKC) took over operation.
From the article:
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Based on other articles I found it looks like they have been in crisis mode for a couple years now. Only purchasing the bare minimum amount of food to qualify for WIC (federal subsidies food program intended to help ensure nutrition for pregnant woman and children under 5).
In another article a reporter mentioned a persistent "rancid odor" to the store blamed on lack of drain maintenance.
It is reported by KMBC 9 on youtube that the entire shopping area is owned by a city and that the total amount spent on the grocery store is actually 29 million!
natermer@reddit
https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/openings-closings/article311681208.html
ricochet48@reddit
Not surprised one bit...