Anon on Walter White | TheaterFire

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wumr125@reddit

Innuniverse the character thinks he's a genius but he certainly isn't portrayed as one. A lot of people struggle with media literacy can't tell the difference

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Rydagod1@reddit

He was literally offered free cancer treatment and potentially a cushy non-job by his old business partner but was too retarded to take the offer.

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blaze92x45@reddit

It was his ego that was the problem. Walter's fundamental character flaw is he is very narcissistic

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ykzdropdead@reddit

So incredibly narcissistic that he decided to take a bullet and die for someone

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the_m4nagement@reddit

It's called basic character development.

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Gamer_chaddster_69@reddit

Narcissists can't develop their character, calling him narcissistic is peak poppsychology clueless bullshit. You can have a big ego without being narcissistic.

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assuming that a narcissist isn't just a type of behavior and that it automatically means they have narcissistic personality disorder makes just as little sense, that would be like if I assumed that an antisocial person had ASPD

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Dark_Pestilence@reddit

After selling that someone into literally torture slavery

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blaze92x45@reddit

Yeah at the very end of the series.

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lazyygothh@reddit

If the dude was easier to work with, his life would've been cake. He'd be a rich mofo with a successful company. The ego was too big and made him make dumb choices.

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UnfriskyDingo@reddit

I mean by that point he had murdered a few people right? I don't see Walt going back to work like a regular job even if his cancer got treated

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Purplefilth22@reddit

TBH the issue is how Elliot handled it. Yes the smart move would take the offer but it certainly is not the "right" move. Had he been more direct and openly stated his intentions I think Walt would have took it. Which honestly makes me think Elliot really didn't want Walt back because he's supposed to be not dumb too.

To be clear, I'm not defending Walt in the slightest. Not funneling his ill gotten gains through his sons charity site was by far the dumbest, selfish, proof he resents his crippled son, act in the entire show. It wasn't even out of his pride or a sense of corrupting his sons good nature/intention... He just didn't want to give him the credit of "saving" the family.

But back to the point. Elliot basically handled it like a fake friend would and Walt did in fact pick up on it. The way he treats them in the end of the show is honestly deserved. They truly behaved like the rich POS that they are and honestly what Walt would have turned into or worse had he never been bought out.

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TeenisElbow@reddit

Noooo not my heckin media literacy!!

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CMG_exe@reddit

The moral of breaking bad is that you can be a horrible drug dealer and make an ungodly amount of money if you have the best product.

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ThatsMySpicyPepper@reddit

Unfathomably based

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ykzdropdead@reddit

ITT: Disregard nuance and 100 hours of character development

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JeanRalfio@reddit

The internet loves to do that to make themselves feel smart.

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SpecialistParticular@reddit

Never watched the show but how does cooking meth turn a mild mannered high school teacher into a green beret-level badass who can take on cartels?

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blaze92x45@reddit

It doesn't

Walter is someone who is very smart in his specific niche which is chemistry. Otherwise a lot of the reason he lives a few years in universe time as a meth producer is because he gets insanely lucky.

You actually look at a lot of his decisions you can see their very impulsive and ego driven and can be counter productive. To be fair he is called out on this by other characters in the show.

Walter has a few smart moments where he thinks outside the box but all these moments are the results of his own egoism getting him into trouble in the first place.

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yousirnaime@reddit

Great point, it seems like everyone in his world flipflops between "why can't you just be a professional about this" and (unfortunately for them) they then say "I am going to try to fuck you for some reason".

And Mr White doesn't seem to enjoy being fucked by anyone except Mrs White

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blaze92x45@reddit

To be fair the second part of that statement is usually because Walter is doing something to piss them off.

He had a good thing going with Fring but Walter fucked it up.

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Tinhetvin@reddit

Its been a while since ive watched the show, but why did Walter mess up the business with Gus? Wasnt Gus planning on killing Walter to replace him with Gale, so Walter basically had to react?

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blaze92x45@reddit

Before that Jesse found out some drug dealers had killed his GF's little bro so Jesse was going to kill them despite Fring warning Jesse not too. Jesse went off head first and was going to get himself killed. Walt jumps in and kills the drug dealers

Fring can't let Walt killing his people slide and that is what starts that downward spiral in the business relationship.

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Tinhetvin@reddit

Ah right, thats true. Still seems unfair to say that Walt's ego ruined that, since he was trying to save Jesse.

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blaze92x45@reddit

Yeah I guess that is fair

Granted he partially started the mess with Jesse by rejecting Gale and insisting on Jesse even though Jesse was a complete hot mess at that point

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Goramit_Mal@reddit

It was never really about protecting Jesse anyways, walt wanted to keep jesse around because he knew he could gaslight and manipulate him into doing whatever he wanted. Replacing methhead basketcase jesse with the competent and mentally stable gale meant walt loses his only pawn in the game.

Its why the show was so good, walter was always a cunt of a person deep down - but once he got his diagnosis he finally had an excuse to let loose.

But Walter himself doesnt even realize this until the very last episode. So because of that, his whole "im doin this for my famly" shtick is very believable and still divides the audience to this day.

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Lollerpwn@reddit

But Gale wasnt replacing Jesse he was the replacement for both.

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blaze92x45@reddit

Yeah that tracks. I think Walt cared about Jesse in his own very fucked up way especially near the end. But yeah most of the relationship Walt and Jesse had was self serving on walts part.

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Spartan6056@reddit

I thought the whole reason Walter got in Fring's bad graces was because after Fring said no more using kids and expected that to be the end of it, that gang killed their kid selling drugs, so Jesse went out to kill those two guys, and Walter ran the two guys over because Jesse was going to get himself killed.

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blaze92x45@reddit

Yeah you're right. Though you're missing the part that Fring said Walt and Jesse should have come to him as opposed to acting unilaterally

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thebigautismo@reddit

You had to blow it up!

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Brussel_Rand@reddit

That's essentially the elevator pitch of the show. How does Ned Flanders become Scarface? They spend five seasons building that concept up, your question is just explained by the nature of watching the show and engaging with its premise

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snrup1@reddit

He's a not a badass whatsoever. He's a narcissistic egomaniac who ruins everyone in his orbit. Hes not a strategist, he's one impulse to the next. A lot of his shit is luck or chance-related also.

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CMG_exe@reddit

Because the show has this central fallacy that only he can make pure crystal meth for whatever reason, which simply isn’t the case lol.

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EiriAmach@reddit

He's a sniveling victim complex manipulator throughout the whole show. Its sorta the whole point

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BanzaiKen@reddit

green beret-level badass who can take on cartels?

He doesn’t he’s an insane boomer that brings a wrecking ball to everyone associated to him. He threw tannerite at a bunch of cholos once because he was so insanely desperate he stopped caring and then rode that legend to the top. He more or less assisted everyone else in backstabbing, absorbed their crews the moment he backstabbed them and them backstabbed himself before being backstabbed by everyone else in a never ending cycle. That’s Breaking Backstabs.

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Achack@reddit

Idk why people act like that scene was so good. He's like the oldest frailest guy in the room and he was the closest to the explosion that blew out all the windows. If he even survived he certainly wouldn't be ready for the showdown that happened afterwards.

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BlindStark@reddit

he gets methylamine in his eyes at the start and uses his other senses to fight, he’s able to rapidly do physics equations to discern the trajectory of punches and he does chemistry experiments mid-fight to make smoke bombs, explosives, etc.

they call him the blue devil

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eventualwarlord@reddit

Watch the show

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WithMealsPunk@reddit

Most criminal stories are about good people who make bad choices. BB is about a bad person who has a good excuse. Deep down Walt was always a piece of shit who just acted nice and the cancer flipped the risk/reward ratio.

Halfway through the series there’s conversation between two other characters about “half measures.” When most people face difficult moral dilemmas they try to find a compromise between solving the problem and absolving their conscience. Walt does not have that problem and exploits those that do. That said, BB does suffer from the Hollywood genius problem where writers can write a character smarter than themselves. Standard chemistry knowledge and basic strategy are treated like 1000 iq checkmates.

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LukeJaywalker0@reddit

He's not getting in shootouts and fist-fights with them. He's planting bombs and sneaking poison into little kid's juiceboxes. And it's not sneaky high op shit either, he blows up an entire hospital room and just gets away with it.

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jubaby2@reddit

It doesn’t and it never does in the show.

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kingbam161@reddit

The dumbass said no to an incredible job offer from a former friend where he would have been making up 200k a year working at a professional lab, because he: "didn't want a handout"

It's not a handout. You do a job in exchange for money regard.

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Brussel_Rand@reddit

Why do people suck at analyzing Breaking Bad? Everywhere you look whether it's people hating Skylar for real even when she's supposed to get under your skin at times or people not understanding that Walt isn't always the hero, people just don't know what they're talking about.

Why does Walt have character flaws stemming from his strengths? I don't know, maybe it's because that's how you create conflict in the story to drive it forward and create interest? How do you watch that show, let alone any show, and not be able to deduce that?

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Bud90@reddit

I mean he didn't get away with it, he got caught in under 2 years lol.

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Cob_Dylan@reddit

I thought Breaking Bad was great until I saw Bette Call Saul. Slippin’ Jimmy was the big brain in that universe.

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Unity1232@reddit

i dropped it because the dude is given so many outs like a better job that will cover his medical costs or even offered help from colleagues to help with the medical costs. Walter is too much of a egotistical retard that i dropped the show.

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Autisticus@reddit

Opin na noor

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FartFlavoredLollipop@reddit

Walter White is like Ben Carson - a guy that's really smart about one specific thing, and mistakenly believes that means he must be smart at every thing.

Get away from that one thing though, and it turns out he might be fuckin retarded.

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