WWII M3 Grease Guns still in Iranian Service in 2018.
Posted by Brilliant_Ground1948@reddit | ForgottenWeapons | View on Reddit | 40 comments
Posted by Brilliant_Ground1948@reddit | ForgottenWeapons | View on Reddit | 40 comments
TommyBarcelona@reddit
Those have a lot of collector value now. If they were smart they'd export them at 5k a piece, and buy ARs or at least AKs or something
wynnduffyisking@reddit
Who’s gonna buy them? I don’t think you can import them to the US
TommyBarcelona@reddit
No idea about how imports can be made, just saying they are valuable collectables now
wynnduffyisking@reddit
Yeah but only if the collectors can buy them. And I think the most interested collectors would be in the US and that’s a big problem when it comes to importing and selling full auto weapons. The reason that machine guns cost tens of thousands of dollars in the US is not a scarcity of the guns themselves but rather that only guns registered before 1986 can be bought by people who don’t have a special license like a firearms dealer with a special license.
So there would not be anyone to sell it to in the US.
Maybe some other countries would have less restrictions but I doubt there’s enough of a market to justify the hassle.
TommyBarcelona@reddit
In Spain we cant import full autos either, even if they are converted to semi. So yeah, good point.
wynnduffyisking@reddit
I’m Danish and yeah any kind of full auto weapon is a no go here as well. As it is in most of Europe.
There may be a few countries that would allow imports but mainly the only ones who could actually buy them in large numbers would be other countries and they want AR’s too. So I kind of think without the US market as a possibility they are probably just stuck with their museum pieces.
txpete@reddit
Still my favorite sub gun. It's like using a garden hose, but 45acp
BallisticRicehat666@reddit
Tbh (ik it’s not popular for old guns but working with what you have realistically) rethread them for modern brakes/comps/suppressors, mount red dots and vert grips, get some modern more reliable less salty mags and a sling and I wouldn’t mind it as a PDW. (Maybe even a folding AR stock adapter) Definitely not the worst thing in the world and with like $300 it could be more than okay for use and beats buying newer SMG’s in the same caliber they’ll inevitably run naked for the next few decades
WesterosIsAGiantEgg@reddit
If the Iranian military knew it might offend some westerners, they might do it just out of spite.
IlluminatedPickle@reddit
"Did you hear the news about Iran?"
"No?"
"They issued a fatwah against Bubba."
MlackBesa@reddit
I’d 100% fuck with that. I miss vintage open-bolt SMGs. Modern PCCs just don’t hit the spot as much.
Rob_Cartman@reddit
PCC is just a more marketable term for PDW/SMG. PDW implies a military purpose and SMG includes machine-gun so both terms make them much harder to market to police or civilians. If the MP5 was released today it would be called a PCC derived from the G3 platform.
matthewami@reddit
Did they really just make that many of them, or are people still making them with old equipment? It seems like these pop up in modern light a lot.
1corvidae1@reddit
A lot were made. Until the 90s us army tanks still have them for crew protection.
I think during the battle for marawei in Philippines, photos of grease gun with optics popped up on the internet claiming that Philippines military still use them for some units.
BtheBro@reddit
Not in the battle of marawj nope. But in the oakwood mutiny back in the early 2000s. The Philippine marines had modified the M3 grease guns for special operations use by suppressing them and bolting bushnell red dot sights on their recievers. Same with the filipino navy N-SWAG which had done something similar with their STENs. By the time marawi came over most filipino SOF units had switched to 10.3" AR platforms but the M3 still retained use for IFV and APC crew.
identify_as_AH-64@reddit
IIRC the Filipino Navy divested them from their stocks and gave them to the Marines, who then slapped a pic rail, a red dot and an integral suppressor on them. A fitting upgrade for a formidable weapon.
Cloned_501@reddit
That is a very Marine thing to do. Glad to see it transcends nations
IlluminatedPickle@reddit
The Filipino SF do still have in their inventory a very heavily modified M3.
TacTurtle@reddit
They made a ton of them, and they often had very little wear compared to typical rifles or SMGs issued to regular infantry as the M3 Grease Guns were included as part of Lend Lease armored vehicle crew equipment.
I_2_Cast_Lead_45acp@reddit
They made a crap ton and a lot was given as miltary aid.
Sevsix1@reddit
NRA (which automatically makes me question the numbers) reports that
but that is the NRA and they have a bit of a fudd reputation so I am unsure about how correct they are on this topic but when you take into context that 650k were only GM's contribution then a number like a million seem plausible since the US was a production power house in the 1940's
I_2_Cast_Lead_45acp@reddit
Plus Ithaca made some for Korea. It was a elusive Gudie Lamp production with lots of subcontractors for the parts.
IlluminatedPickle@reddit
They kept building them after the war ended too iirc.
Dependent_Ad_5546@reddit
Do some research on the relationship between Iran and the US prior to the shah. You will see as a small part military aide(ww2 small arms through modern aircraft). Great opportunity to do some deeper learning
hina_doll39@reddit
Probably a bit of both tbh
davesr25@reddit
Putt, putt, putt, it kicks the dust on the hill, if it kicks it will kill.
Repdylian@reddit
Even got those big honkin flash hiders on em
MountainTitan@reddit
al-Loudena
sinisteraxillary@reddit
Requires cool sunglasses 😎
DroidKnight@reddit
They are all yelling because they are dying in the heat from all of their kit. And we thought we had it rough in Jordan, Dubai, and Iraq!
ReactionAble7945@reddit
I wonder how it feels being issued something that was made for WWII.
Knowing you may be going up against stuff that was made for WWIII.
The_First_Curse_@reddit
You use what you use. In the end soldier's weapons don't matter as much anymore. Artillery and tactics win wars.
Superb_Cellist_8869@reddit
I have this same thought whenever I see pictures of soldiers with Mosin nagants or Lewis machine guns in Ukraine, I honestly find it so interesting
But either way, I’d hate to be on the receiving end of either of those lol
cheaplabourforsale@reddit
are they -in- service or are they for some reason used for parades like many nations do with their traditional service rifle?
Soundtrackzz@reddit
Can we just take a minute to relish in how amazing these soldiers look with camouflage on their face. I can barely see them
Aimbot69@reddit
Wow, these are original gen 1 M3s, charging handle and all.
Zestyprotein@reddit
I owned one from 1987 to 1996. They are pretty beefy, and dead simple. Other than a bent dust cover, or shot out barrel, there's not much to go wrong with one. In those years mine shot probably close to 20,000 rounds (it was a favorite of mine, and all of my friends), and only had a handful of stoppages.
DukeOfGeek@reddit
All this time and no one did anything to make the bent coat hanger wire stock better? Also these shlubs have one and I don't :(
GU1LD3NST3RN@reddit
Football hooliganism really getting out of hand these days.
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