Global opinion of the U.S. is collapsing, now worse than China in some polls
Posted by HighPlains79@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 131 comments
Trump just said at the Kennedy Center that “all over the world our country is respected again.”
Multiple international polls show a very different picture:
• Pew (2025) – Favorability is down sharply in many allies. Mexico went from 61% to 29%.
• Ipsos (2025) – Positive influence rating in 29 countries fell from 59% to 46%. Canada dropped to 19%.
• Democracy Perception Index – Net perception went from +22% to -5%, now worse than China’s rating.
This is not just about Trump. It is part of a longer trend of U.S. influence erosion. Reputational decline like this often comes before changes in alliances, trade relationships, and even the role of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. Respect, favorability, and trust are not the same thing, but all three are moving in the wrong direction.
usernamepaswd1@reddit
Xi, Putin and modi are making fun of the us. Trump does precisely what they want. Old allies are betrayed , new enemies are created and the economy is being disrupted. We are witnessing in real time the collapse of a country formerly known as the most powerful in the word. And the interesting part is that the Americans themselves have done this. A country of nearly 350 million, and the persons that they choose as president is trump…whahaha. There is no way to recover from that other than total collapse. Start learning Chinese guys!
jez_shreds_hard@reddit
Trump is a delusional moron. His followers and a striking number of people in the USA are brainwashed to believe the USA is the best country in the world and that no where else on earth there are better living conditions and more freedoms. Most of these people have never set foot in another country and they have no idea how much more freedoms and how much better the quality of live is in a lot of countries. China has tons of high-speed rail and modern infrastructure that people in the USA can only dream about. Anyone with a functioning brain that has been to China and the USA in the last decade or so could easily see that China is rapidly advancing/creating better standards of living for their citizens and the USA is getting worse and worse. It's easily observable. China may be authoritarian, but the USA is no better. At least in China the citizens actually get to see their tax dollars being put to good use. All our tax dollars in the USA go to is war and creating more of a police state to create more pain/suffering for the citizens of the USA. The USA is a god damn disgrace and it's honestly embarrassing being American. I can't even get most "liberal" or "progressive" people I know to go to a protest or agree to participate in a general strike. Yes, I know why. I know people are afraid and can't miss work because they have made us all wage slaves/tied our healthcare to our jobs. I just wish people would realize that this is it. There is no coming back from Trump. There will be no return to normal. It will be worse and worse authoritarian fascism until most of us are dead.
ReliefZealousideal97@reddit
Since when do we count "high speed rail" and unspecified "infrastructure'' as better conditions?
Now take a look at the airports in the US, and then come back.
littleking12@reddit
I can drive 80 mph in a car that I own from a house that I own to a company that I own. America is that good
futuriztic@reddit
You seem lost
rundia@reddit
So you’ve never been to Germany is what you’re saying here. 🤣
My_life_for_Nerzhul@reddit
Are you paid to act stupid on social paid or are you happy to do it for free?
freeman_joe@reddit
Yeah no other country have people driving cars and nobody own house or own company or both… so that is why USA is special? You should probably reconsider your priorities in life that would be my friendly advice.
Fox_Kurama@reddit
You are the epitome of the guy Not Just Bikes has repeatedly shown is the stereotype of Americans (and sorry, I am including Canada too in this since they are just as bad at car vs noncar stuff).
DryDrunkImperor@reddit
I cycle along a nice canal, watching the animals wake up and the seasons change, to build pretty things for slightly less than a decent wage.
Your version sounds awful.
AnonKingfisher@reddit
You're right, man, America is SO GOOD. America is so good, in fact, that you can only find these perks in almost every other country in the world.
freesoloc2c@reddit
Omg, you're clueless about China, they are collapsing in many ways. The only hope China has of keeping up at this point is to take Taiwan for the chips they can't make.
SlinkyOne@reddit
Since this wasn't mentioned.
Kids Online Safety Act.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_Online_Safety_Act
It's just another Reach into your lives. But of course. "No one Cares".
Nintendo_Pro_03@reddit
Well said.
Some_Drink_5375@reddit
this is exactly precisely what the russian asset wants.
he is separating the US from the allies it has had for 80 years.
as a favor to the fella who holds all his pee pee tapes.
quantum0058d@reddit
The USA is allied with the modern day Nazis of Israel so reputation is going to take serious hit. Nothing specific to Trump, genocide Joe was a butcher of epic proportions too, hard to know which one is worse.
It's sad how the USA is destroying itself to support the genocidal state of Israel.
stilusmobilus@reddit
This is flat out stupid. This is a big reason the US got Trump, this lack of critical thought.
quantum0058d@reddit
I'm not from the USA, so maybe have a different perspective. Biden was a genocidal monster.
stilusmobilus@reddit
Neither am I, but the point stands. Regardless of your perspective, in no way was Biden worse for Palestine than Trump.
It’s still flat out stupid, regardless of where you’re from.
quantum0058d@reddit
More people in Gaza were murdered under Biden. Gaza was reduced to rubble under Biden.
stilusmobilus@reddit
Since when was Biden the leader of Israel? They died under Netanyahu but here’s another factoid you ignore…Hamas, or members of it, started this one. No, you can’t roll in past histories on that.
quantum0058d@reddit
The used financed the lethal military aide for Israel under Biden.
stilusmobilus@reddit
It’s been US foreign policy to supply Israel with military support since the 1950s.
That’s US foreign policy, but the current war was started by Hamas.
quantum0058d@reddit
The Israeli's had over 1,200 hostages before the Palestinians fought back on October 7th.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-detention-jails-palestinians-west-bank-793a3b2a1ce8439d08756da8c63e5435
If you belong what you wrote....
stilusmobilus@reddit
Which still doesn’t make Biden responsible, despite what you try to connect.
We are all well aware of the atrocities that have occurred. Stop giving people like Netanyahu and Trump passes.
quantum0058d@reddit
If you're aware, why did you say it started on October 7th?
I'm not giving either Trump*/ Netanyahu a pass. Trump is also disgusting, helping starve the Gazans.
Nothing more to say to you, you seem ignorant.
stilusmobilus@reddit
Unless you’re someone planted in here to keep pressing that line, which is entirely possible. Either wilfully stupid or complicit. The latter sounds a bit more likely.
It’s a shame, because Palestinians suffer on the back of this dogshit, from both the farmers and the farmed.
quantum0058d@reddit
If anyone is planted, it's you. Condemning genocide under Trump and condoning it under Biden. Genocide is not okay if a democrat or a Republican engages in it.
stilusmobilus@reddit
Again, I remind you Netanyahu is the one in charge of Israel and Hamas started the latest round of conflicts, not Biden.
Palestinians suffer on the backs of people like you and those that farm you. You carry that, whether you’re aware of it or not.
quantum0058d@reddit
The USA finances the genocide not Israel. Have many people from Gaza do you actually know? How many of those people were present after October 7th when the USA sponsored the genocide?
Blow it out your ass.
stilusmobilus@reddit
Coming from someone who is complicit in the genocide, I’ll take that for the value it deserves.
quantum0058d@reddit
No idea what you're talking about. My family and I have been on several protest me arches and support bds . You must have me confused with someone else.
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stilusmobilus@reddit
Yeah, you are, you hold Biden responsible. You’ve been used, and you’re calling me ignorant?
That’ll do me too.
Whooptidooh@reddit
I have never lost respect for a country faster than when I heard the news that Americans elected him again.
As long as Trump and his cronies are in charge there’s not a chance in hell I’d ever want to visit.
DogFennel2025@reddit
Please don’t come. It’s so dangerous for foreigners right now.
Whooptidooh@reddit
Oh, don’t worry; you wouldn’t be able to pay me to come to that shithole right now.
DogFennel2025@reddit
I am really sad to see my society collapse.
Matthath@reddit
And not after, the 77 million braindead people that elected him will still be there.
Fox_Kurama@reddit
You have to remember the non-voters. They were okay EITHER WAY. Which included him.
The Majority wanted him directly or indirectly.
Whooptidooh@reddit
I did, the second time just cemented the absolute idiocy at play here.
LongjumpingJob3452@reddit
The US also seems to be dragging Canada and Mexico along with it.
Existing_Employ_8158@reddit
I don’t know about that. Canada and Mexico seem to be pretty defiant of our government. They’ve both made pretty strong statements against the crap Trump says about them. I don’t think they’re pushovers.
LongjumpingJob3452@reddit
I read the graph wrong. It's Canada and Mexico's perception of the US, not the world's perception of Canada and Mexico.
You are absolutely correct. Neither country will go down without a fight. As a Canuck, I can honestly say we are carefully controlling our wallets.
LetItAllGo33@reddit
Add to that the irony that Americans have been trained to see China the same way American southerners are trained to see California.
China has a lot of faults, but it plans for and invests for a future that is farther away than the next quarterly earnings report.
China is still rising, the US is being sold off for scrap. And we both have concentration camps.
MeateatersRLosers@reddit
Wow, we're really in the shitter then.
newbscaper3@reddit
Both can be true. They are ahead in many fields, but also have a lot of corruption and a failing economy that depended on construction.
Academia is considering learning Mandarin just because so much research now comes out of China. They’re ahead in tech, manufacturing, environment research.
But yes they’re still committing ethnic cleansing, there’s lots of people in poverty, and rights aren’t as free.
MeateatersRLosers@reddit
A lot of the research is just bad and faked.
I mean, I know the west and US is not utopia, but China takes these things to a whole nother level. And they don't called out for their bullshit internally because of shame culture and saving face and all that, so shit gets much more extreme than here.
China is perfectly good to manufacture stuff in, you will get things done much easier than in the US by orders of a magnitude. I just think most everything else is overblow.
Besides, no need to learn mandarin, at least to read, AI and translation is getting there for all intents and purposes.
newbscaper3@reddit
… who are you to say the research is bad and faked?
Professionals around the world verify this research. China has showed time and time again that they care about the research reputation. They understand that faking numbers does not make you a credible source.
I think you need to get some propaganda out of your head.
MeateatersRLosers@reddit
I see the Chinese bots are out in force downvoting anything negative about China.
And:
More than enough links out there:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PhD/comments/1f6f0n9/apparently_data_manipulation_is_really_common_in/
https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/1axvuvw/why_fake_research_is_rampant_in_china/
https://www.economist.com/china/2024/02/22/why-fake-research-is-rampant-in-china
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-01697-y
sagethewriter@reddit
You come into this thread with a literal propaganda slop video from “The China Show” YouTube channel which ONLY exaggerates unfounded hearsay and then you double down with anecdotal Reddit threads of all things, and have the audacity to claim that we’re drinking the kool-aid. Lmao.
MeateatersRLosers@reddit
It’s true, the Chinese fucking hate the China Show and downvote it and badmouth it every chance they get.
But I trust two former residents who spent over a decade in China and fluent in their language and work that random comments badmouthing it.
Kooky_Independence@reddit
Those same people also literally turn a blind eye to any criticism of the US or quite literally ignore the fascism that's completely taking over the country they live in. They whine all day about authoritarianism in China when it's right in their faces once again on their supposed land of the free. How am I supposed to take them seriously?
Fuck them. They're complete fucking morons who only care about authoritarianism when they don't benefit from them. In reality, they never cared about authoritarianism as long as they benefit from it being that they're now living in a white supremacist country and that's coming from someone who at one point lived in China. Complete fucking frauds, and their comment pool is a disgusting cesspool.
Anyway, that being said, there is truth that China is not a saint at all. I think the main point is an argument can actually be made that the US is more authoritarian and fascist than China which is completely unthinkable if you go back 10-15 years ago. That's fucked.
jibrilmudo@reddit
You're just doing whataboutism.
Why does one channel have to be the source of all criticisms in the world?
Kooky_Independence@reddit
I don't think it's whataboutism when they both live in the US, they both praise the US, and they approve of the current administration's strategy with China in general. If they lived in let's say, Canada, then I could maybe buy that argument if they didn't already praise the US. It's just being intellectually dishonest at this point
Also, let's not forget they spent a decade in China covering the people/culture. They only made a negative turn towards them when they were both "kicked" out of the country. This also goes back to my previous point of them being okay with authoritarianism as long as they benefited from it. China was always authoritarian, and it only ramped up when Xi assumed himself as supreme dictator for life, but they of course turned a blind eye until their hand was forced to leave forever.
MeateatersRLosers@reddit
u/Trojbd
Can you be the one using your brain for a minute? I literally followed those content providers for over a decade, even as they lived in China for about 10 years. They had plenty of positive things to say about China until Xi Jinping came to power and clamped down on everything.
And I’m debating someone who literally thinks:
While things collapse in China all the time that would be front page news if it happened in the US. Major bridges, new construction, tofu dreg construction, bad flooding problem due to bad sewer systems, sewer holes blowing up, etc.
This is on a ton of channels, not just this one. It can’t be hidden. If flashing lights and spinning things are amazing, get a light fidget toy.
Trojbd@reddit
Nah living there right now goober. There's plenty that I dislike about China but it's never the propaganda bullshit gullible idiots like you shove down your throat. There's no hope for you. You never lived there yet has strong opinions about a place that over 10% of the population on earth is living in and assume you know better than them lmao get real.
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MeateatersRLosers@reddit
I always notice all these pro-China people are very low on specifics, especially when countering points, and very high on emotions. It makes me very suspicious.
Trojbd@reddit
Speak for yourself. You have made zero points other than that you follow some Youtuber lmao. What specific do you want? You want my anecdotal experiences actually living there vs your second hand anecdotal experience watching Youtube videos? I already know how that will go.
This shows you're racist and would lump over a billion people together. You're not looking to change your opinion. If you've actually lived there you'd have mentioned it by now. But you have some serious motivation on keeping up with your hate for big bad China on the other side of the globe despite never stepping foot there. Some mental illness shit tbh. Keep being a little sheep for this engineered cold war.
Trojbd@reddit
Can you use your brain for a moment? That channel literally only has negative things to say about China. How can you possibly take it as a credible source when there's no profit or motive incentive for them to not try to gather as much views as possible from their viewerbase? Youtube channels almost always stick to a single topic. If you go out of your way to watch channels that match your preconceived worldview and dismiss all other opinions as propaganda then you're just another idiot in their own bubble that thinks they're enlightened.
newbscaper3@reddit
Using a Reddit thread as a source is comical I have to admit.
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newbscaper3@reddit
blaming the downvotes on bots from China in r/collapse is hilarious. Do you get upset when people disagree with you in real life?
You posted a reddit subreddit as a source… and one of the top comments literally says the opposite.
And then two paywalls sources that you probably didn’t read.
Nonetheless it doesn’t mean that good research from China should be disregarded.
The US is riddled in scientific data manipulation, does that mean we should disregard the research??
Reporter uncovers potential data manipulation by top researcher
Data integrity scandals in biomedical research: Here’s a timeline
Stanford head to resign after data manipulation probe
Harvard cancer institute moves to retract six studies, correct 31 others amid data manipulation claims
A flurry of research misconduct cases has universities scrambling to protect themselves)
None of those are paywalled of people want to read it.
These are just the recent ones too.
MeateatersRLosers@reddit
No, but you sound way too invested to be neutral. Even responding to others responding to me.
Sounds like a narrative, dude.
Shim-Slady@reddit
He doesn’t sound invested at all, he sounds factual. You seem extremely defensive and entirely enable to engage with what’s being laid in front of you. If you have data to counter his points, then show it
DadBodGeneral@reddit
After the first 45 downvotes you should've just wrapped this up.
MeateatersRLosers@reddit
You mean shit I don’t worry about? Who cares about fake karma points? Can you spend them anywhere?
DadBodGeneral@reddit
it reminds me of a crying wojak
DadBodGeneral@reddit
it makes you look like on of those crying wojaks
BeastPunk1@reddit
So the last part is just like the US?
samplekaudio@reddit
This level of nuance is very difficult for people to grasp, especially if they haven't ever lived in another country and really experienced another system, particularly a system as different as China's vis-a-vis the United States'.
I am American and have lived in China for nearly a decade. What I've noticed is that most Americans seem either to believe that China is stuck on the 1960s or flourishing in the 2060s.
Those who are skeptical of the U.S. government often assume that whatever it says must be false and whatever its adversaries say must be wholly true, and vice-versa. So you end up with some groups online like leftists who uncritically parrot People's Daily headlines vs those who obsessively consume content about China's issues and media funded by extremist organizations like Epoch Media Group.
To begin to grasp the truth, you have to understand that the Chinese state operates on a totally different paradigm. The communist party rules by performance-based legitimacy. If it can maintain an image among the majority that its actions ultimately result in public good and social stability, it is legitimate. The media, the courts, the police, entertainment, and all other industries are part of this "whole-society" approach. This paradigm can equally motivate broad censorship (control the public's perception of events) and the development of cutting-edge energy technology, automation at all levels of production, and more. Controlling the people and trying to get ahead of societal problems for the genuine benefit of those people do not contradict each other in this paradigm. The goal is social stability, which can be achieved by many means.
The state has enormous executive power. This allows the state to pour near limitless resources into infrastructure, energy, and research while also allowing for repression and corruption.
I think one of the U.S. system's greatest strengths is the court system. Ironically, it seems more and more that our least democratic institution is the one most capable of protecting our democracy. It's not a coincidence that the current administration is working systematically to neuter the courts.
In China, there is no such balance of power. The courts and the police are the state. People are playing a totally different game over here.
There are many things I admire about the Chinese system. There are also a lot of things I very much dislike. I think in the medium-term future, it shows more survivability than western liberal democracy, unless something drastic changes in the U.S. and the west more generally. However, it has its own set of internal contradictions that I think it will fail to overcome in the long term.
If anyone is interested in a distinctly Chinese but extremely critical view of current Chinese governance, I really recommend reading the essays of Xu Zhangrun. He's a Chinese jurist who had been under house arrest in Beijing for nearly a decade now after publishing a series of inflammatory essays. He articulates those internal contradictions much better than I can. Some of his essays have been translated online by The China Project.
Globalboy70@reddit
Currently learning Mandarin and plan on retiring in China. Not all is roses but there is something to be said for a longterm plan.
Classic-Today-4367@reddit
How do you plan on doing it? As someone asked below, how do you intend to get a visa?
YesIam18plus@reddit
Why as a what I assume is a Westerner would you retire in China rather than a European country lmao.
samplekaudio@reddit
I'm curious, are you ethnically Chinese or have a Chinese spouse, or otherwise how do you intend to retire here? Have you spent a significant amount of time in China before?
roadrussian@reddit
Wow, extremely nuanced and well written answer. Up you go.
YesIam18plus@reddit
Sure but it's silly to say that China is still rising, China isn't on the rise they're on the decline. Their economic growth ain't sustainable.
SecretPassage1@reddit
Just chiming in to say I've heard from different people who've been, lived there, or regularly visit family there, that it seems that China is indeed doing a massive leap forwards in everyday tech, and they all sad that when you come back to Europe, specifically France, it feels like entering a third world country in comparison.
I mean we've offered all our industries to them on a platter and dismantled our own ... seriously, who hasn't seen this coming?
Just happened Faster Than Expected.
Comfortable_Stop5536@reddit
- Tries to argue against China
- Cites propaganda
Not exactly helping your point dude
Equivalent_Dimension@reddit
This is a surprise to nobody except Americans.
Existing_Employ_8158@reddit
It’s not even a surprise to us honestly
freesoloc2c@reddit
Because we cut the funds.
erstwhileinfidel@reddit
China never threatened to destroy my country
jibrilmudo@reddit
mixmastablongjesus@reddit
u/Classic-today-4367 thoughts on this please?
Classic-Today-4367@reddit
I'm not in China anymore. After 27 years there, I've recently moved back to my home country (Australia).
Nonetheless, I'd say many of Trump's antics are viewed even more negatively than China's nowadays. People know what to expect from China now, but it seems many kinda forgot what Trump is like and are reeling away in horror from the US. It doesn't help that Trump is doing stuff that is usually done by countries with known authoritarian forms of government.
mixmastablongjesus@reddit
Is your wife also with you in Australia (she is Chinese right)?
That's interesting and makes a lot of sense. Tankies have already started showing up in this thread?
Collapse user Awaymix7947 is also from China right? Should I ask him on this?
Classic-Today-4367@reddit
I don't see many tankies in r/collapse, but the China subs are full of (predominantly American) tankies who have never been to China, don't know any of the language, but think China is a socialist utopia. This is very far from the truth. Reality is a lot of China's social policies are closer to the US than what happens in say Australia or Europe (eg. there is theoretically medicare available for all citizens, but care levels vary across the country and across social stratas, and everything needs to be paid up front).
mixmastablongjesus@reddit
Actually there are quite a lot of tanks here especially if you go to any threads relating to China. You would see many western authoritarian worshippers and probably bots automatically show up to defend the PRC while blaming everything on the West. A lot of them are also members of thedeprogram, latestagecapitalism, shitliberalssay subreddits which are very tankie dominated.
I see. That makes a lot of sense. China is not the utopia or a savior of the world so many western leftists think they are.
BeastPunk1@reddit
I don't even know why it was so high to begin with.
It's an authoritarian capitalist dystopia that pretends to be a beacon of democracy while bombing and funding the bombing of Global South countries.
It has actively led to the proliferation of a system that has killed, is killing and will kill hundreds of millions of people all for some irrelevant pieces of paper and numbers on graphs.
It has toppled more democratically elected governments than any other state on the planet.
It is the home of one of the most extreme genocides ever committed to the Native American people.
It was an onlooker if not supporter of the Nazi state until the Nazi state bombed one of their ships and harbors.
It willingly destroys the Middle East and brokers shitty one sided trade deals all so that their currency remains on top to fund their lie that capitalism is best and actively stop the shift to green energy.
It's leaders are almost all either pedophiles, liars or yes-men who are willing to do anything to maintain the status quo and strangle the last dollar from ordinary Americans.
Their culture is built on empty consumerism and actively despises social goods like public transit and basic human needs like healthcare. What's even worse is that it has successfully brainwashed a lot of people into believing that all of it's gains were fairly gotten and not a result of imperialism and gun-point trade.
America deserves it.
ekjohnson9@reddit
"Global opinion" doesn't exist
SecretPassage1@reddit
Oh for sure, no offense fellow collapsniks, but it's gone from a probable place to flee the looming european war, to where I's dread to be deported to if Putin ever rules over France. Like I'd rather chance it with the ruthless former KGB agent that still has his shit together, than with the deluded sowndowning idiotic cough TV reality presenter neon bright orange "president".
Deep_losses@reddit
It doesn’t matter anymore. Who really cares what other countries think of your country? It’s not like you’ll be able to go visit them. This is collapse of globalized civilization. Regionalism is the new normal. If you’re large enough to be your own region (USA, Russia, China, etc.) then you really don’t care what anyone anywhere thinks. This has been the case for a while now.
mixmastablongjesus@reddit
Thoughts on this please?
sweetcavekicks@reddit
the us is basically a TV show now, its basically the Truman show but for an orange stain. he's got the role of a lifetime, while the people who voted him in basically gave up, the elites keep hoarding, while people keep starving. time to look away from his camera
ChromaticStrike@reddit
Public opinion doesn't hold the truth, otherwise elections would always elect the best option.
MrCollection8159@reddit
If the U.S. is polling worse than China in some places, that should terrify Washington. It means years of political chaos, foreign policy blunders, and arrogance are erasing decades of soft power. Without global trust, America’s influence becomes all bark and no bite.
littleking12@reddit
Good! hope they all stop coming here and we can go isolationist!
Nintendo_Pro_03@reddit
If that happens, the United States dies.
refusemouth@reddit
The United States will not ever be able to wash out the stain of having elected a neo-fascist dictator twice and for not holding him accountable after his first attempt at a self-coup. It would take an actual revolution to turn back the tide at this point, and the feebleness of the opposition shows the world that Americans are apparently A-ok with having an autocrat who threatens the world. Even if they somehow manage to overcome Republican election engineering and purge the country's government of Christian-nationalist authoritarians, the stink of Trump will linger on for the remaining generations.
Matthath@reddit
Agreed, although their average intelligence always was fairly unimpressive but this is definitely something else.
littleking12@reddit
I relay hope you are right. America should be about America, not the rest of the world.
lovely_sombrero@reddit
Good news!
deepdivisions@reddit
Any hope of mitigating collapse depends on greatly diminishing the influence of the United States.
Ice_Swallow4u@reddit
If there’s another country that can run the world better than the US I’m all ears.
InfinityCent@reddit
Spoken like a true American with main character syndrome. Holy hell, you guys are embarrassing.
Ice_Swallow4u@reddit
What country you from big dawg? Or are you embarrassed?
Almaycil@reddit
Does "the world" really need to be run by a foreign imperialistic power ?
Ice_Swallow4u@reddit
Yeah, it does. Thanks to the European people we were averaging a world war every generation, you know those conflicts that brought humanity to the brink. Haven't had one since we have been in charge. But this is all just a bonus, the real prize is all the perks that come from being the King.
ArgonathDW@reddit
Race/ethnicity-based analyses are always stupid, no exceptions, but also there's a very strong argument to be made that WW2 started with Japan's invasions to secure their "Greater East-Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere." The US would've been satisfied to declare war on Japan and continue supporting the Allies in Europe without openly declaring war, but Hitler jumped the gun and declared war on the US after Pearl Harbor, which opened both fronts. The two theaters would've been isolated from one another if Japan hadn't tried to grab US territory (there's something to be said about the oil embargo I guess, but the Japanese Empire were just as big of assholes or whatever, so who cares)
There's one stream of analysis that supposes the Cold War actually was WW3, and ended when the USSR was illegally dissolved by Gorbachev. This would be in the same vein that some historians prefer to analyze the Seven Years War as the real first world-encompassing war. With the proxy wars in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Cambodia, Laos, Nicaragua, Columbia, Panama, the assassinations of almost 2 dozen elected South American leaders alone, the massacres in Indonesia and Chile and I don't know where else, you'd be sorely pressed to argue a world war wasn't going on, or that America wasn't the chief belligerent.
Ice_Swallow4u@reddit
WW2 was a direct result of WW1 and WW1 was all about those European empires wanting to expand their territory and rampant nationalism. Everyone thought it would be over before Christmas.... it fucking wasn't. Drag the entire world into a bloody war, millions dead, then you fucking did it again.
Almaycil@reddit
Certainly, but I can't stop feeling that there might be a middle-eastern or south-american country or two who still might have a thing to say about that...
What ?
Ice_Swallow4u@reddit
the real prize is all the perks that come from being the King
Yeah man, it pays to have the single largest, most well trained and advanced military in the world. Our reach is vast. Not to mention how we have the ENTIRE world suckling at our tit. The world has invested in making sure the US does well because if we dont..... nobody does.. I understand how non-Americans may not like this arrangement but what are you going to do?
Live_Canary7387@reddit
Apparently just watch you shit the bed and throw it all away without any prompting. From nascent superpower to fading geriatric kleptocracy in less than a century. That's a pretty poor showing by the standards of most empires, and like all empires one day yours will be another historic lesson in greed and hubris.
Ice_Swallow4u@reddit
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way, the time has come, this comment chain is over, thought you something more to say…
maoterracottasoldier@reddit
They don’t have to do anything because Trump is destroying it for them
BlogintonBlakley@reddit
Both political parties in the USA are complicit in genocide.
The consequences for that seem likely to be connected to the polls.
TopoGraphique@reddit
Exactly. Let’s not absolve Democrats from their role in facilitating the rise of fascism.
AggravatingMark1367@reddit
Supplying weapons to genociders tends to cause a reputation decline
amnsisc@reddit
Opinion polls appraising country's reputations have almost no bearing on actual reality.
Korea, Japan and PRC all hate each other in polls, and yet they're each others largest trading partners.
The US, PRC, & Russia have long had widespread negative appraisals but that hasn't affected their world power status.
Despite isolation and near universal condemnation, Iran, DPRK, Syria, Yemen, and Israel continue to exist and chug along.
Meanwhile, a third of China's provinces spend over 100% of their revenue on debt service:
https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/1mfnjd2/a_third_of_provinces_now_spend_their_entire/
HighPlains79@reddit (OP)
I’m just saying that Trump must be using a different definition of “respect” than the one measured in global opinion polls, because those show sharp drops in U.S. favorability and trust, even from close neighbors like Mexico and Canada.
It’s true countries often work with those they dislike. Trade and alliances can survive on geography and necessity, but those relationships are more transactional, and are more costly when trust is low. Geography can keep trade alive, but respect and trust are what turn proximity and power into lasting influence, and that’s where the trend is moving in the wrong direction.
It’s odd when political leaders say the opposite of what the data shows. Feels a lot like gaslighting. Repeating something confidently in simple words, laced with insults and catchphrases, might make it memorable, but it doesn’t make it true.
Tao-of-Mars@reddit
Can we please get the sources on this? One thing that drives me nuts is when people post data with no way of verifying it or tracking it down to find similar data, even.
The fact that the right wing media often posts false data is part of the problem of them just believing it at face value. I’m a former data analyst and I’m concerned about how much data can be manipulated and packaged as a story that has no real merit.
HighPlains79@reddit (OP)
This is Reddit, not a homework assignment or a corporate pitch deck, but since you asked nicely here you go:
Pew Research (Mexico & Canada favorability) https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2023/06/27/overall-opinion-of-the-u-s https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2024/06/27/views-of-the-united-states https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2025/06/11/views-of-the-united-states
Ipsos (Global positive influence & Canada rating) https://www.ipsos.com/en/global-advisor-americas-influence-world-2023 https://www.ipsos.com/en/global-advisor-americas-influence-world-sept-2024 https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/americas-reputation-drops-across-the-world
Democracy Perception Index (Alliance of Democracies) https://www.allianceofdemocracies.org/initiatives/the-copenhagen-democracy-summit/democracy-perception-index-2023 https://www.allianceofdemocracies.org/initiatives/the-copenhagen-democracy-summit/democracy-perception-index-2024 https://www.reuters.com/world/global-perceptions-us-fall-below-china-survey-says-2025-05-12
ISEAS – State of Southeast Asia https://www.iseas.edu.sg/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/The-State-of-Southeast-Asia-2023-Survey-Report.pdf https://www.iseas.edu.sg/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/The-State-of-Southeast-Asia-2024-Survey-Report.pdf https://www.iseas.edu.sg/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/The-State-of-Southeast-Asia-2025-Survey-Report.pdf
Time Magazine coverage of ISEAS https://time.com/7274803/southeast-asia-2025-survey-us-china-trust-asean-iseas-trump
roblewk@reddit
Many counties hate one another, but all counties hate pedophiles. Seems to me that may factor into the US standings.
EvoFume@reddit
Why'd it take so long?
OGSyedIsEverywhere@reddit
Scott Bessent's comments on Fox Business today (the 13th) are pretty clear about why this sort of stuff might be happening. He said that they are intending to turn the various central banks of Europe and Japan into an American sovereign wealth fund, that is to say, seizing their holdings without notice or compensation.
He wouldn't say it if he didn't believe America has both the power and inclination to do it and get away with it.
extinction6@reddit
The Trump led January 6th insurrection against the US government played on TV's around the world. Then Trump was charged with sexual abuse and 34 counts of falsifying business records and he became a convicted felon.
Fox News was fined $787 million dollars for lying to American's but their audience couldn't figure out who Fox News was lying to and they continued to allow themselves to get conned by further lies that they don't fact check.
Then a majority of Americans that voted put the sexual predator, convicted criminal and insurrectionist back into office which shocked the world.
Once back in office Trump would start threatening and bad mouthing allies and other countries then start a tariff war.
Trump has proven that he is just not intelligent enough to understand who pays for his tariffs and instead of rolling out a coherent tariff plan he showed the world the art of the brain fart, which earned him the term "Taco" for his pathetic flip flops that just don't end. The uncertainty about his tariff levels are hurting businesses around the world because businesses can't make plans until they know what the tariff levels are going to be.
After slapping America's allies in the face with insults and tariffs that were described as "like an extortion attempt by a belligerent teenager" Trump announced that world leaders were calling "to kiss his ass" which bolstered the international insult and damage to America's reputation.
The world can see that the Republican Party members have no moral compass or guts at all. They just want money and power at the expense of Americans and they just passed the bill that takes money from the poor and gives it to the wealthy.
Trump has assembled the most incompetent administration in US history that is filled with the Fox News hosts that lied to Americans as part of the company that was fined $787 million for lying. The incompetent behaviours of the Trump administration are broadcast around the world along with a lot of evidence of his blatant corruption, like accepting the jet from Qatar and the crypto scam etc.
Trump is a malignant narcissist and pathological liar who is now deteriorating with dementia and is starting to confabulate stories like the one about Ted Kaczynski, immigrants eating the cats and dogs in Springfield and so on. He is going for a meeting with Putin in Alaska which he has called Russia on numerous occasions. Trump is deteriorating mentally, his ankles are swelling and the skin on his hand is discoloured from his sickness.
Thanks to Trump's attacks on allies, tourist areas in the US are complaining about losing incomes and businesses and other American companies like Jack Daniels are closing production lines and laying Americans off due to the disgusting and child-like behaviour of Trump's threats. And as tourist areas are complaining about the financial loses to Americans, there is Jesse Waters on Fox News telling his viewers that the US should just take some of Canada's western provinces, which will further the financial pain for his fellow Americans because he is suck a jackass.
People all over the world witnessed the January 6th insurrection and then saw American's vote the convicted criminal back into office and now he is one of the most dishonest and disgusting leaders ever, and a shit stain in world history.
Now to top all that off Trump is deploying the military against American citizens, against their will and without reason and the world can also see this.
America absolutely sucks now and people would be crazy to makes plans to travel to the US given the political and criminal instability of the administration that is in power.
EntropicSpecies@reddit
This should be in r/noshitsherlock
merikariu@reddit
The Bronzer-Blackface Buffoon will fire you for reporting those unfavorable numbers!
NorthMathematician32@reddit
Same, world, same.